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This is the hospital where my dad is. Too soon to tell really how he is
doing but he seems not to know a lot of things and forgetful of others.
Foods for instance. He seems to think he hates everything, until he gets it
and eats it. He was eating raw veggies with a fork, dipping them into Ranch
dressing. He did hand my mom his cucumbers which he has always done. He
does hate those and she likes them. But then he dipped his roll in the
dressing. And then he debated whether or not to dip his cookie in it!
Thankfully he decided against that.

He is on the diabetic diet. It was somewhat limited. I didn't look at the
breakfast options. Just the lunch/dinner which is what we ordered for him
tonight. Everything had the carb count listed. It was either 0, 15 or 30
grams of carb. Sandwiches could be ordered in half or whole. There were
several salads and quite a large choice of low carb veg. Those were listed
as 0 carbs. For the 15 count veg there were peas and something else. I
can't remember what the other thing was. I don't recall seeing any potatoes
listed. But white rice was. The meats were rather limited. Turkey breast,
salmon, braised beef and maybe one other thing. He had the braised beef
tonight and I was quite annoyed that it came with peas and carrots. It was
more like a stew. Not enough to count much in terms of carbs but given that
Angela does have that pea allergy I felt they should be listed.

He also had mac and cheese. This looked like the real thing but the sauce
was a bit runny. The portion was very small. There was a choice of white
or wheat roll. There were some dessert choices listed. Some had no carbs
such as the lemon lime sugar free Jell-O. I think there were a couple of
other things in that category but I can't remember what they were. There
was sugar free pudding, regular pudding, ice cream, sherbet, angel food cake
and cookies. Tonight my mom chose a sugar cookie. It was huge and not a
sugar cookie but a Snickerdoodle. I have to wonder if that was really the
right thing they gave him. She said last night he had a peanut butter
cookie which was tiny and tasted terrible.

There were quite a few beverages listed. Coffee, tea, and the decaf.
versions of both. Several different bottled waters, diet sodas, milk, and
some sort of diabetic meal replacement shake. I don't think any juices were
listed at all.

My mom said he was told at the hospital that he could have up to 85 grams of
carb per meal but his Dr. has him on 45 grams which is more like what he
ate. She did order more than that but he only ate one bite of the roll and
a few bites of the cookie.

It is up to the patient to order their own meals. They could, if they
wanted, order one of each meat and one of each low carb veg.

But the problem? My dad is at the point where he really isn't capable of
doing anything for himself. He just isn't thinking to do it. So somebody
has to be there to order the meals for him. Which my mom has been doing.

They do have a hotel attached to the hospital. She may wind up having to
stay there. She has been taking a cab and my brother or SIL have been
driving her home. My husband is going to take her there in the morning.

At this point we do not know how long he will be in there. He has started
some physical therapy but needs a lot more. If he qualifies, he can do it
there for two weeks. If he doesn't, he will have to go elsewhere for four
weeks. I think we are all hoping he will be moved somewhere closer to home,
even though we don't necessarily want him to be stuck in some place for
longer. Unless of course it is what he needs.

They had what appeared to be a really good cafeteria although some of it was
closed today. During the week there is a taco bar and also a deli. Those
were closed. The salad station was also closed but wasn't supposed to be.
There was a steam table with very limited choices. And the burger place was
open. Very limited menu of beef burger, turkey burger, salmon burger, all
with a variety of options, including no bun. French fries and onion rings.
I made the mistake of ordering the "big" order of fries and assumed I
wouldn't get too many based on the $2.00 price. OMG! They could have fed
all 6 of us plus the next table! I won't be doing that again!

They also had some self serve things including pizza, salads, sandwiches,
hard boiled eggs, cheeses and sushi.



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i hope he recovers quickly, Lee
"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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This is the hospital where my dad is. Too soon to tell really how he is
doing but he seems not to know a lot of things and forgetful of others.
Foods for instance. He seems to think he hates everything, until he gets
it and eats it. He was eating raw veggies with a fork, dipping them into
Ranch dressing. He did hand my mom his cucumbers which he has always
done. He does hate those and she likes them. But then he dipped his roll
in the dressing. And then he debated whether or not to dip his cookie in
it! Thankfully he decided against that.

He is on the diabetic diet. It was somewhat limited. I didn't look at
the breakfast options. Just the lunch/dinner which is what we ordered for
him tonight. Everything had the carb count listed. It was either 0, 15
or 30 grams of carb. Sandwiches could be ordered in half or whole. There
were several salads and quite a large choice of low carb veg. Those were
listed as 0 carbs. For the 15 count veg there were peas and something
else. I can't remember what the other thing was. I don't recall seeing
any potatoes listed. But white rice was. The meats were rather limited.
Turkey breast, salmon, braised beef and maybe one other thing. He had the
braised beef tonight and I was quite annoyed that it came with peas and
carrots. It was more like a stew. Not enough to count much in terms of
carbs but given that Angela does have that pea allergy I felt they should
be listed.

He also had mac and cheese. This looked like the real thing but the sauce
was a bit runny. The portion was very small. There was a choice of white
or wheat roll. There were some dessert choices listed. Some had no carbs
such as the lemon lime sugar free Jell-O. I think there were a couple of
other things in that category but I can't remember what they were. There
was sugar free pudding, regular pudding, ice cream, sherbet, angel food
cake and cookies. Tonight my mom chose a sugar cookie. It was huge and
not a sugar cookie but a Snickerdoodle. I have to wonder if that was
really the right thing they gave him. She said last night he had a peanut
butter cookie which was tiny and tasted terrible.

There were quite a few beverages listed. Coffee, tea, and the decaf.
versions of both. Several different bottled waters, diet sodas, milk, and
some sort of diabetic meal replacement shake. I don't think any juices
were listed at all.

My mom said he was told at the hospital that he could have up to 85 grams
of carb per meal but his Dr. has him on 45 grams which is more like what
he ate. She did order more than that but he only ate one bite of the roll
and a few bites of the cookie.

It is up to the patient to order their own meals. They could, if they
wanted, order one of each meat and one of each low carb veg.

But the problem? My dad is at the point where he really isn't capable of
doing anything for himself. He just isn't thinking to do it. So somebody
has to be there to order the meals for him. Which my mom has been doing.

They do have a hotel attached to the hospital. She may wind up having to
stay there. She has been taking a cab and my brother or SIL have been
driving her home. My husband is going to take her there in the morning.

At this point we do not know how long he will be in there. He has started
some physical therapy but needs a lot more. If he qualifies, he can do it
there for two weeks. If he doesn't, he will have to go elsewhere for four
weeks. I think we are all hoping he will be moved somewhere closer to
home, even though we don't necessarily want him to be stuck in some place
for longer. Unless of course it is what he needs.

They had what appeared to be a really good cafeteria although some of it
was closed today. During the week there is a taco bar and also a deli.
Those were closed. The salad station was also closed but wasn't supposed
to be. There was a steam table with very limited choices. And the burger
place was open. Very limited menu of beef burger, turkey burger, salmon
burger, all with a variety of options, including no bun. French fries and
onion rings. I made the mistake of ordering the "big" order of fries and
assumed I wouldn't get too many based on the $2.00 price. OMG! They
could have fed all 6 of us plus the next table! I won't be doing that
again!

They also had some self serve things including pizza, salads, sandwiches,
hard boiled eggs, cheeses and sushi.



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i hope he recovers quickly, Lee


Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't do it. I
don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When we moved back here
we did try to buy a house in their city but we just couldn't afford it.
Actually the house next door to them was for sale. I did live in it once.
But it has stairs and that is no good for me. So we didn't consider it.

We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to keep
going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but her parents are
both in really bad shape and they have been doing a lot to help with them.


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Sometimes that forgetfulness can be temporary, hopefully it is for him.
But the bleed could have knocked out a few brain cells that were keeping
him on the side of functioning pretty well. As you said, it will be
whatever is best for him now. You just don't know what is around the
corner do you.

"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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This is the hospital where my dad is. Too soon to tell really how he
is doing but he seems not to know a lot of things and forgetful of
others. Foods for instance. He seems to think he hates everything,
until he gets it and eats it. He was eating raw veggies with a fork,
dipping them into Ranch dressing. He did hand my mom his cucumbers
which he has always done. He does hate those and she likes them. But
then he dipped his roll in the dressing. And then he debated whether
or not to dip his cookie in it! Thankfully he decided against that.

He is on the diabetic diet. It was somewhat limited. I didn't look
at the breakfast options. Just the lunch/dinner which is what we
ordered for him tonight. Everything had the carb count listed. It
was either 0, 15 or 30 grams of carb. Sandwiches could be ordered in
half or whole. There were several salads and quite a large choice of
low carb veg. Those were listed as 0 carbs. For the 15 count veg
there were peas and something else. I can't remember what the other
thing was. I don't recall seeing any potatoes listed. But white rice
was. The meats were rather limited. Turkey breast, salmon, braised
beef and maybe one other thing. He had the braised beef tonight and I
was quite annoyed that it came with peas and carrots. It was more
like a stew. Not enough to count much in terms of carbs but given
that Angela does have that pea allergy I felt they should be listed.

He also had mac and cheese. This looked like the real thing but the
sauce was a bit runny. The portion was very small. There was a
choice of white or wheat roll. There were some dessert choices
listed. Some had no carbs such as the lemon lime sugar free Jell-O.
I think there were a couple of other things in that category but I
can't remember what they were. There was sugar free pudding, regular
pudding, ice cream, sherbet, angel food cake and cookies. Tonight my
mom chose a sugar cookie. It was huge and not a sugar cookie but a
Snickerdoodle. I have to wonder if that was really the right thing
they gave him. She said last night he had a peanut butter cookie
which was tiny and tasted terrible.

There were quite a few beverages listed. Coffee, tea, and the decaf.
versions of both. Several different bottled waters, diet sodas, milk,
and some sort of diabetic meal replacement shake. I don't think any
juices were listed at all.

My mom said he was told at the hospital that he could have up to 85
grams of carb per meal but his Dr. has him on 45 grams which is more
like what he ate. She did order more than that but he only ate one
bite of the roll and a few bites of the cookie.

It is up to the patient to order their own meals. They could, if they
wanted, order one of each meat and one of each low carb veg.

But the problem? My dad is at the point where he really isn't capable
of doing anything for himself. He just isn't thinking to do it. So
somebody has to be there to order the meals for him. Which my mom has
been doing.

They do have a hotel attached to the hospital. She may wind up having
to stay there. She has been taking a cab and my brother or SIL have
been driving her home. My husband is going to take her there in the
morning.

At this point we do not know how long he will be in there. He has
started some physical therapy but needs a lot more. If he qualifies,
he can do it there for two weeks. If he doesn't, he will have to go
elsewhere for four weeks. I think we are all hoping he will be moved
somewhere closer to home, even though we don't necessarily want him to
be stuck in some place for longer. Unless of course it is what he
needs.

They had what appeared to be a really good cafeteria although some of
it was closed today. During the week there is a taco bar and also a
deli. Those were closed. The salad station was also closed but
wasn't supposed to be. There was a steam table with very limited
choices. And the burger place was open. Very limited menu of beef
burger, turkey burger, salmon burger, all with a variety of options,
including no bun. French fries and onion rings. I made the mistake of
ordering the "big" order of fries and assumed I wouldn't get too many
based on the $2.00 price. OMG! They could have fed all 6 of us plus
the next table! I won't be doing that again!

They also had some self serve things including pizza, salads,
sandwiches, hard boiled eggs, cheeses and sushi.


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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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i hope he recovers quickly, Lee


Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't do
it. I don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When we
moved back here we did try to buy a house in their city but we just
couldn't afford it. Actually the house next door to them was for sale.
I did live in it once. But it has stairs and that is no good for me.
So we didn't consider it.

We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to
keep going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but her
parents are both in really bad shape and they have been doing a lot to
help with them.


Well there is still time to think about and discuss amongst yourselves
worst case scenarios. I think if he ever drives again it might be a long
time coming. But people adapt to that. My grandparents had to when it
was no longer safe for my grandfather to drive (not that he was ever
safe, but that's another story!) Once things have settled down I think
it quite fair to say take your mum shopping for food every so often, pay
bills whatever but not be expected to be on call as such. I actually
think it was better you aren't living close by given they are a "bit"
difficult. I think most aging people know there will come a time when
life changes for them.



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"Ozgirl" wrote in message
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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i hope he recovers quickly, Lee


Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't do it.
I don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When we moved back
here we did try to buy a house in their city but we just couldn't afford
it. Actually the house next door to them was for sale. I did live in it
once. But it has stairs and that is no good for me. So we didn't consider
it.

We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to keep
going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but her parents
are both in really bad shape and they have been doing a lot to help with
them.


Well there is still time to think about and discuss amongst yourselves
worst case scenarios. I think if he ever drives again it might be a long
time coming. But people adapt to that. My grandparents had to when it was
no longer safe for my grandfather to drive (not that he was ever safe, but
that's another story!) Once things have settled down I think it quite fair
to say take your mum shopping for food every so often, pay bills whatever
but not be expected to be on call as such. I actually think it was better
you aren't living close by given they are a "bit" difficult. I think most
aging people know there will come a time when life changes for them.


My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food they
do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go out to eat.
And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food. I don't think
there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried to get them to do
this online but they just refuse to do it that way.

Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino in
another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between the two of
them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have a maid who comes
once a week and they refuse to be home when she is there. They also go to
the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know how they afford it. We go to
the movies once a month, mainly because they want to go. We can't really
afford to go much more often than that. And we sure can't dine out as often
as they do!

I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His BG
was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner tonight.

The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for herself.
She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my brother. Or my
nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once in a while she will
ask me to do something for her. But I have the mindset that I will show you
once, or maybe even twice how to do something and then you'd better be able
to do it yourself! Now sure I do make exceptions. Like I know she is going
blind so if it's a matter of having to be able to read or see something, I
know she isn't capable. But there are things that to me are simple things
and she refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She
has my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she freaked
when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item for her
before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I think her memory
is really going. She got very upset with me for ordering it. So I am
really torn on this. And other things involving the computer that to me are
easy to fix. She normally relies on my brother to do computer things
because he is a programmer.

I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for maintenance
or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she tried. It is just a
given that my dad will do these things for her.

We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.


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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Ozgirl" wrote in message
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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i hope he recovers quickly, Lee

Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't do
it. I don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When we
moved back here we did try to buy a house in their city but we just
couldn't afford it. Actually the house next door to them was for
sale. I did live in it once. But it has stairs and that is no good
for me. So we didn't consider it.

We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to
keep going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but her
parents are both in really bad shape and they have been doing a lot
to help with them.


Well there is still time to think about and discuss amongst
yourselves worst case scenarios. I think if he ever drives again it
might be a long time coming. But people adapt to that. My
grandparents had to when it was no longer safe for my grandfather to
drive (not that he was ever safe, but that's another story!) Once
things have settled down I think it quite fair to say take your mum
shopping for food every so often, pay bills whatever but not be
expected to be on call as such. I actually think it was better you
aren't living close by given they are a "bit" difficult. I think most
aging people know there will come a time when life changes for them.


My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food
they do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go
out to eat. And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food.
I don't think there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried
to get them to do this online but they just refuse to do it that way.

Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino
in another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between
the two of them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have
a maid who comes once a week and they refuse to be home when she is
there. They also go to the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know
how they afford it. We go to the movies once a month, mainly because
they want to go. We can't really afford to go much more often than
that. And we sure can't dine out as often as they do!

I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His
BG was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner
tonight.

The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
herself. She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my
brother. Or my nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once
in a while she will ask me to do something for her. But I have the
mindset that I will show you once, or maybe even twice how to do
something and then you'd better be able to do it yourself! Now sure I
do make exceptions. Like I know she is going blind so if it's a
matter of having to be able to read or see something, I know she isn't
capable. But there are things that to me are simple things and she
refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She has
my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she freaked
when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item
for her before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I
think her memory is really going. She got very upset with me for
ordering it. So I am really torn on this. And other things involving
the computer that to me are easy to fix. She normally relies on my
brother to do computer things because he is a programmer.

I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
maintenance or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she
tried. It is just a given that my dad will do these things for her.

We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.


Well, it could be difficult but surely they expected there would come a
day?...

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Ozgirl wrote:


: "Julie Bove" wrote in message
:
: My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food
: they do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go
: out to eat. And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food.
: I don't think there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried
: to get them to do this online but they just refuse to do it that way.
:
: Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino
: in another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between
: the two of them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have
: a maid who comes once a week and they refuse to be home when she is
: there. They also go to the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know
: how they afford it. We go to the movies once a month, mainly because
: they want to go. We can't really afford to go much more often than
: that. And we sure can't dine out as often as they do!
:
: I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
: insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His
: BG was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner
: tonight.
:
: The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
: herself. She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my
: brother. Or my nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once
: in a while she will ask me to do something for her. But I have the
: mindset that I will show you once, or maybe even twice how to do
: something and then you'd better be able to do it yourself! Now sure I
: do make exceptions. Like I know she is going blind so if it's a
: matter of having to be able to read or see something, I know she isn't
: capable. But there are things that to me are simple things and she
: refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She has
: my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she freaked
: when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item
: for her before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I
: think her memory is really going. She got very upset with me for
: ordering it. So I am really torn on this. And other things involving
: the computer that to me are easy to fix. She normally relies on my
: brother to do computer things because he is a programmer.
:
: I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
: maintenance or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she
: tried. It is just a given that my dad will do these things for her.
:
: We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.

: Well, it could be difficult but surely they expected there would come a
: day?...

Given this scenario , with your Mom, not likely to suddently start doing
all these things. Is there a senior living place in the area, the kind
where you live in an apartment and get meals and once a week cleaning and
linen change? This migh tbe what they will have to think of, even if your
father regains some mobility, etc. It is a big change and will, probably
necessitate their selling their house in this bad markt or, at least
renting it. Don't jump and say"never" r "they won't" etc. these kinds of
things do become a reality after a shileunless one of you is prepared to
have them move in with them, which can be EXTREMELY difficult.

Wendy


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i hope he recovers quickly, Lee

Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't do it.
I don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When we moved back
here we did try to buy a house in their city but we just couldn't afford
it. Actually the house next door to them was for sale. I did live in it
once. But it has stairs and that is no good for me. So we didn't consider
it.

We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to keep
going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but her parents
are both in really bad shape and they have been doing a lot to help with
them.


Well there is still time to think about and discuss amongst yourselves
worst case scenarios. I think if he ever drives again it might be a long
time coming. But people adapt to that. My grandparents had to when it was
no longer safe for my grandfather to drive (not that he was ever safe, but
that's another story!) Once things have settled down I think it quite fair
to say take your mum shopping for food every so often, pay bills whatever
but not be expected to be on call as such. I actually think it was better
you aren't living close by given they are a "bit" difficult. I think most
aging people know there will come a time when life changes for them.


My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food they
do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go out to eat.
And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food. I don't think
there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried to get them to do
this online but they just refuse to do it that way.

Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino in
another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between the two of
them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have a maid who comes
once a week and they refuse to be home when she is there. They also go to
the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know how they afford it. We go to
the movies once a month, mainly because they want to go. We can't really
afford to go much more often than that. And we sure can't dine out as often
as they do!

I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His BG
was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner tonight.

The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for herself.
She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my brother. Or my
nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once in a while she will
ask me to do something for her. But I have the mindset that I will show you
once, or maybe even twice how to do something and then you'd better be able
to do it yourself! Now sure I do make exceptions. Like I know she is going
blind so if it's a matter of having to be able to read or see something, I
know she isn't capable. But there are things that to me are simple things
and she refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She
has my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she freaked
when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item for her
before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I think her memory
is really going. She got very upset with me for ordering it. So I am
really torn on this. And other things involving the computer that to me are
easy to fix. She normally relies on my brother to do computer things
because he is a programmer.

I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for maintenance
or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she tried. It is just a
given that my dad will do these things for her.

We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.


The is an elderly couple who take a taxi to/from the restaurant every
day for their dinner. Dinner is 4:30 pm for them and they take home 1/2
the senior's portion they just ate. The lady indicates that a soft
boiled egg, toast and coffee is their morning meal; the left overs are
their mid day meal; dinner ensures they have at least lunch at home the
next day.

i didn't define elderly
he's 102 and she's 97

kate
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i hope he recovers quickly, Lee

Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't do
it. I don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When we
moved back here we did try to buy a house in their city but we just
couldn't afford it. Actually the house next door to them was for sale.
I did live in it once. But it has stairs and that is no good for me. So
we didn't consider it.

We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to keep
going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but her parents
are both in really bad shape and they have been doing a lot to help
with them.

Well there is still time to think about and discuss amongst yourselves
worst case scenarios. I think if he ever drives again it might be a long
time coming. But people adapt to that. My grandparents had to when it
was no longer safe for my grandfather to drive (not that he was ever
safe, but that's another story!) Once things have settled down I think
it quite fair to say take your mum shopping for food every so often, pay
bills whatever but not be expected to be on call as such. I actually
think it was better you aren't living close by given they are a "bit"
difficult. I think most aging people know there will come a time when
life changes for them.


My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food
they do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go out
to eat. And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food. I don't
think there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried to get them
to do this online but they just refuse to do it that way.

Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino in
another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between the two
of them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have a maid who
comes once a week and they refuse to be home when she is there. They
also go to the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know how they afford
it. We go to the movies once a month, mainly because they want to go.
We can't really afford to go much more often than that. And we sure
can't dine out as often as they do!

I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His BG
was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner tonight.

The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
herself. She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my
brother. Or my nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once in
a while she will ask me to do something for her. But I have the mindset
that I will show you once, or maybe even twice how to do something and
then you'd better be able to do it yourself! Now sure I do make
exceptions. Like I know she is going blind so if it's a matter of having
to be able to read or see something, I know she isn't capable. But there
are things that to me are simple things and she refuses to learn how to
do them. Like ordering stuff online. She has my dad do it for her. She
did have me do it once but then she freaked when she found out how much
the item cost! I had ordered this item for her before and I thought she
knew that it was expensive but I think her memory is really going. She
got very upset with me for ordering it. So I am really torn on this.
And other things involving the computer that to me are easy to fix. She
normally relies on my brother to do computer things because he is a
programmer.

I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
maintenance or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she
tried. It is just a given that my dad will do these things for her.

We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.


Well, it could be difficult but surely they expected there would come a
day?...


I don't think she ever thought of it.




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"W. Baker" wrote in message
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Ozgirl wrote:


: "Julie Bove" wrote in message
:
: My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food
: they do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go
: out to eat. And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food.
: I don't think there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried
: to get them to do this online but they just refuse to do it that way.
:
: Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino
: in another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between
: the two of them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have
: a maid who comes once a week and they refuse to be home when she is
: there. They also go to the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know
: how they afford it. We go to the movies once a month, mainly because
: they want to go. We can't really afford to go much more often than
: that. And we sure can't dine out as often as they do!
:
: I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
: insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His
: BG was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner
: tonight.
:
: The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
: herself. She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my
: brother. Or my nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once
: in a while she will ask me to do something for her. But I have the
: mindset that I will show you once, or maybe even twice how to do
: something and then you'd better be able to do it yourself! Now sure I
: do make exceptions. Like I know she is going blind so if it's a
: matter of having to be able to read or see something, I know she isn't
: capable. But there are things that to me are simple things and she
: refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She has
: my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she freaked
: when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item
: for her before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I
: think her memory is really going. She got very upset with me for
: ordering it. So I am really torn on this. And other things involving
: the computer that to me are easy to fix. She normally relies on my
: brother to do computer things because he is a programmer.
:
: I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
: maintenance or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she
: tried. It is just a given that my dad will do these things for her.
:
: We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.

: Well, it could be difficult but surely they expected there would come a
: day?...

Given this scenario , with your Mom, not likely to suddently start doing
all these things. Is there a senior living place in the area, the kind
where you live in an apartment and get meals and once a week cleaning and
linen change? This migh tbe what they will have to think of, even if your
father regains some mobility, etc. It is a big change and will, probably
necessitate their selling their house in this bad markt or, at least
renting it. Don't jump and say"never" r "they won't" etc. these kinds of
things do become a reality after a shileunless one of you is prepared to
have them move in with them, which can be EXTREMELY difficult.


There is one near us and they have refused to go. My mom said they can
never move out of their house. She isn't being reasonable on many fronts.
OTOH it is highly unlikely that their house would sell. They have 1 11/2
baths and the realtor said people do not want this. Now they want 2 full
baths.

Their house is paid off. So they only pay the taxes. There is no way they
could afford rent unless they could sell the house.


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On 9/4/2011 3:23 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
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i hope he recovers quickly, Lee

Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't do
it.
I don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When we moved
back
here we did try to buy a house in their city but we just couldn't
afford
it. Actually the house next door to them was for sale. I did live in it
once. But it has stairs and that is no good for me. So we didn't
consider
it.

We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to keep
going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but her parents
are both in really bad shape and they have been doing a lot to help
with
them.

Well there is still time to think about and discuss amongst yourselves
worst case scenarios. I think if he ever drives again it might be a long
time coming. But people adapt to that. My grandparents had to when it
was
no longer safe for my grandfather to drive (not that he was ever safe,
but
that's another story!) Once things have settled down I think it quite
fair
to say take your mum shopping for food every so often, pay bills
whatever
but not be expected to be on call as such. I actually think it was
better
you aren't living close by given they are a "bit" difficult. I think
most
aging people know there will come a time when life changes for them.


My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food
they
do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go out to
eat.
And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food. I don't think
there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried to get them to do
this online but they just refuse to do it that way.

Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino in
another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between the two
of
them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have a maid who
comes
once a week and they refuse to be home when she is there. They also go
to
the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know how they afford it. We go
to
the movies once a month, mainly because they want to go. We can't really
afford to go much more often than that. And we sure can't dine out as
often
as they do!

I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His BG
was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner tonight.

The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
herself.
She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my brother. Or
my
nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once in a while she will
ask me to do something for her. But I have the mindset that I will show
you
once, or maybe even twice how to do something and then you'd better be
able
to do it yourself! Now sure I do make exceptions. Like I know she is
going
blind so if it's a matter of having to be able to read or see something,
I
know she isn't capable. But there are things that to me are simple
things
and she refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online.
She
has my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she
freaked
when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item for
her
before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I think her
memory
is really going. She got very upset with me for ordering it. So I am
really torn on this. And other things involving the computer that to me
are
easy to fix. She normally relies on my brother to do computer things
because he is a programmer.

I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
maintenance
or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she tried. It is
just a
given that my dad will do these things for her.

We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.


The is an elderly couple who take a taxi to/from the restaurant every day
for their dinner. Dinner is 4:30 pm for them and they take home 1/2 the
senior's portion they just ate. The lady indicates that a soft boiled
egg, toast and coffee is their morning meal; the left overs are their mid
day meal; dinner ensures they have at least lunch at home the next day.

i didn't define elderly
he's 102 and she's 97


It's very expensive to get taxis here. They only have them in Seattle and
Everett and not the cities where we live. It is costing my mom $50 to get
to the hospital.

She just called and they are moving him tomorrow to another floor for
physical therapy. So that means he will likely get out in 2 weeks! And
because tomorrow is a holiday we can visit.


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it may be since the house is paid off that some help could be purchased, Lee
"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"W. Baker" wrote in message
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Ozgirl wrote:


: "Julie Bove" wrote in message
:
: My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little
food
: they do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go
: out to eat. And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food.
: I don't think there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried
: to get them to do this online but they just refuse to do it that way.
:
: Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino
: in another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between
: the two of them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have
: a maid who comes once a week and they refuse to be home when she is
: there. They also go to the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know
: how they afford it. We go to the movies once a month, mainly because
: they want to go. We can't really afford to go much more often than
: that. And we sure can't dine out as often as they do!
:
: I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
: insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now.
His
: BG was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner
: tonight.
:
: The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
: herself. She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my
: brother. Or my nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once
: in a while she will ask me to do something for her. But I have the
: mindset that I will show you once, or maybe even twice how to do
: something and then you'd better be able to do it yourself! Now sure
I
: do make exceptions. Like I know she is going blind so if it's a
: matter of having to be able to read or see something, I know she
isn't
: capable. But there are things that to me are simple things and she
: refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She
has
: my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she
freaked
: when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item
: for her before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I
: think her memory is really going. She got very upset with me for
: ordering it. So I am really torn on this. And other things
involving
: the computer that to me are easy to fix. She normally relies on my
: brother to do computer things because he is a programmer.
:
: I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
: maintenance or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she
: tried. It is just a given that my dad will do these things for her.
:
: We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.

: Well, it could be difficult but surely they expected there would come a
: day?...

Given this scenario , with your Mom, not likely to suddently start doing
all these things. Is there a senior living place in the area, the kind
where you live in an apartment and get meals and once a week cleaning and
linen change? This migh tbe what they will have to think of, even if
your
father regains some mobility, etc. It is a big change and will, probably
necessitate their selling their house in this bad markt or, at least
renting it. Don't jump and say"never" r "they won't" etc. these kinds
of
things do become a reality after a shileunless one of you is prepared to
have them move in with them, which can be EXTREMELY difficult.


There is one near us and they have refused to go. My mom said they can
never move out of their house. She isn't being reasonable on many fronts.
OTOH it is highly unlikely that their house would sell. They have 1 11/2
baths and the realtor said people do not want this. Now they want 2 full
baths.

Their house is paid off. So they only pay the taxes. There is no way
they could afford rent unless they could sell the house.



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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Ozgirl" wrote in message
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Ozgirl" wrote in message
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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i hope he recovers quickly, Lee

Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't
do it. I don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When
we moved back here we did try to buy a house in their city but we
just couldn't afford it. Actually the house next door to them was
for sale. I did live in it once. But it has stairs and that is no
good for me. So we didn't consider it.

We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to
keep going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but
her parents are both in really bad shape and they have been doing
a lot to help with them.

Well there is still time to think about and discuss amongst
yourselves worst case scenarios. I think if he ever drives again it
might be a long time coming. But people adapt to that. My
grandparents had to when it was no longer safe for my grandfather
to drive (not that he was ever safe, but that's another story!)
Once things have settled down I think it quite fair to say take
your mum shopping for food every so often, pay bills whatever but
not be expected to be on call as such. I actually think it was
better you aren't living close by given they are a "bit" difficult.
I think most aging people know there will come a time when life
changes for them.

My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little
food they do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly
they go out to eat. And if they don't do that he gets some sort of
fast food. I don't think there is any need to go out to pay bills.
I have tried to get them to do this online but they just refuse to
do it that way.

Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino
in another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between
the two of them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also
have a maid who comes once a week and they refuse to be home when
she is there. They also go to the movies a lot too. I honestly
don't know how they afford it. We go to the movies once a month,
mainly because they want to go. We can't really afford to go much
more often than that. And we sure can't dine out as often as they
do!

I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now.
His BG was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner
tonight.

The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
herself. She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my
brother. Or my nephew. And she pays him to do things for her.
Once in a while she will ask me to do something for her. But I have
the mindset that I will show you once, or maybe even twice how to do
something and then you'd better be able to do it yourself! Now sure
I do make exceptions. Like I know she is going blind so if it's a
matter of having to be able to read or see something, I know she
isn't capable. But there are things that to me are simple things
and she refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff
online. She has my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once
but then she freaked when she found out how much the item cost! I
had ordered this item for her before and I thought she knew that it
was expensive but I think her memory is really going. She got very
upset with me for ordering it. So I am really torn on this. And
other things involving the computer that to me are easy to fix. She
normally relies on my brother to do computer things because he is a
programmer.

I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
maintenance or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she
tried. It is just a given that my dad will do these things for her.

We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.


Well, it could be difficult but surely they expected there would come
a day?...


I don't think she ever thought of it.


Well it will be a swim or sink situation especially if your dad isn't
capable of driving anymore.



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: "W. Baker" wrote in message
: ...
: Ozgirl wrote:
:
:
: : "Julie Bove" wrote in message
: :
: : My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food
: : they do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go
: : out to eat. And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food.
: : I don't think there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried
: : to get them to do this online but they just refuse to do it that way.
: :
: : Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino
: : in another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between
: : the two of them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have
: : a maid who comes once a week and they refuse to be home when she is
: : there. They also go to the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know
: : how they afford it. We go to the movies once a month, mainly because
: : they want to go. We can't really afford to go much more often than
: : that. And we sure can't dine out as often as they do!
: :
: : I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
: : insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His
: : BG was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner
: : tonight.
: :
: : The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
: : herself. She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my
: : brother. Or my nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once
: : in a while she will ask me to do something for her. But I have the
: : mindset that I will show you once, or maybe even twice how to do
: : something and then you'd better be able to do it yourself! Now sure I
: : do make exceptions. Like I know she is going blind so if it's a
: : matter of having to be able to read or see something, I know she isn't
: : capable. But there are things that to me are simple things and she
: : refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She has
: : my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she freaked
: : when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item
: : for her before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I
: : think her memory is really going. She got very upset with me for
: : ordering it. So I am really torn on this. And other things involving
: : the computer that to me are easy to fix. She normally relies on my
: : brother to do computer things because he is a programmer.
: :
: : I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
: : maintenance or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she
: : tried. It is just a given that my dad will do these things for her.
: :
: : We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.
:
: : Well, it could be difficult but surely they expected there would come a
: : day?...
:
: Given this scenario , with your Mom, not likely to suddently start doing
: all these things. Is there a senior living place in the area, the kind
: where you live in an apartment and get meals and once a week cleaning and
: linen change? This migh tbe what they will have to think of, even if your
: father regains some mobility, etc. It is a big change and will, probably
: necessitate their selling their house in this bad markt or, at least
: renting it. Don't jump and say"never" r "they won't" etc. these kinds of
: things do become a reality after a shileunless one of you is prepared to
: have them move in with them, which can be EXTREMELY difficult.

: There is one near us and they have refused to go. My mom said they can
: never move out of their house. She isn't being reasonable on many fronts.
: OTOH it is highly unlikely that their house would sell. They have 1 11/2
: baths and the realtor said people do not want this. Now they want 2 full
: baths.

: Their house is paid off. So they only pay the taxes. There is no way they
: could afford rent unless they could sell the house.

What I said ws they could rent the house (out to someone), thus havig
monthly income for whatever.

Wendy


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