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Tiger Lily wrote:
: On 9/4/2011 3:23 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
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: ...
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: "Julie wrote in message
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: i hope he recovers quickly, Lee
:
: Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't do it.
: I don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When we moved back
: here we did try to buy a house in their city but we just couldn't afford
: it. Actually the house next door to them was for sale. I did live in it
: once. But it has stairs and that is no good for me. So we didn't consider
: it.
:
: We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to keep
: going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but her parents
: are both in really bad shape and they have been doing a lot to help with
: them.
:
: Well there is still time to think about and discuss amongst yourselves
: worst case scenarios. I think if he ever drives again it might be a long
: time coming. But people adapt to that. My grandparents had to when it was
: no longer safe for my grandfather to drive (not that he was ever safe, but
: that's another story!) Once things have settled down I think it quite fair
: to say take your mum shopping for food every so often, pay bills whatever
: but not be expected to be on call as such. I actually think it was better
: you aren't living close by given they are a "bit" difficult. I think most
: aging people know there will come a time when life changes for them.
:
: My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food they
: do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go out to eat.
: And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food. I don't think
: there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried to get them to do
: this online but they just refuse to do it that way.
:
: Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino in
: another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between the two of
: them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have a maid who comes
: once a week and they refuse to be home when she is there. They also go to
: the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know how they afford it. We go to
: the movies once a month, mainly because they want to go. We can't really
: afford to go much more often than that. And we sure can't dine out as often
: as they do!
:
: I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
: insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His BG
: was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner tonight.
:
: The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for herself.
: She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my brother. Or my
: nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once in a while she will
: ask me to do something for her. But I have the mindset that I will show you
: once, or maybe even twice how to do something and then you'd better be able
: to do it yourself! Now sure I do make exceptions. Like I know she is going
: blind so if it's a matter of having to be able to read or see something, I
: know she isn't capable. But there are things that to me are simple things
: and she refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She
: has my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she freaked
: when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item for her
: before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I think her memory
: is really going. She got very upset with me for ordering it. So I am
: really torn on this. And other things involving the computer that to me are
: easy to fix. She normally relies on my brother to do computer things
: because he is a programmer.
:
: I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for maintenance
: or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she tried. It is just a
: given that my dad will do these things for her.
:
: We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.
:
:
: The is an elderly couple who take a taxi to/from the restaurant every
: day for their dinner. Dinner is 4:30 pm for them and they take home 1/2
: the senior's portion they just ate. The lady indicates that a soft
: boiled egg, toast and coffee is their morning meal; the left overs are
: their mid day meal; dinner ensures they have at least lunch at home the
: next day.

: i didn't define elderly
: he's 102 and she's 97

: kate

Do they have a senior feeding program either like senior lunches for a
small fee or meals on wheels whic bring a prepared meal to the house 5 das
a week? The other meals woul only entail light shopping that your mother
could learn to do or that one of you could send over or oder from the
computer.

Wendy

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and find a different realtor, lots of houses still have only one full bath,
trust me i have been doing a LOT of looking at houses/plans...

having said that i will always contend that two full baths keeps a
relationship together through the stressful times, Lee
"W. Baker" wrote in message
...
Julie Bove wrote:

: "W. Baker" wrote in message
: ...
: Ozgirl wrote:
:
:
: : "Julie Bove" wrote in message
: :
: : My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little
food
: : they do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they
go
: : out to eat. And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast
food.
: : I don't think there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have
tried
: : to get them to do this online but they just refuse to do it that
way.
: :
: : Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the
casino
: : in another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments
between
: : the two of them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also
have
: : a maid who comes once a week and they refuse to be home when she
is
: : there. They also go to the movies a lot too. I honestly don't
know
: : how they afford it. We go to the movies once a month, mainly
because
: : they want to go. We can't really afford to go much more often
than
: : that. And we sure can't dine out as often as they do!
: :
: : I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about
the
: : insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now.
His
: : BG was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner
: : tonight.
: :
: : The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
: : herself. She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or
my
: : brother. Or my nephew. And she pays him to do things for her.
Once
: : in a while she will ask me to do something for her. But I have
the
: : mindset that I will show you once, or maybe even twice how to do
: : something and then you'd better be able to do it yourself! Now
sure I
: : do make exceptions. Like I know she is going blind so if it's a
: : matter of having to be able to read or see something, I know she
isn't
: : capable. But there are things that to me are simple things and
she
: : refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She
has
: : my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she
freaked
: : when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this
item
: : for her before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I
: : think her memory is really going. She got very upset with me for
: : ordering it. So I am really torn on this. And other things
involving
: : the computer that to me are easy to fix. She normally relies on
my
: : brother to do computer things because he is a programmer.
: :
: : I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
: : maintenance or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has
she
: : tried. It is just a given that my dad will do these things for
her.
: :
: : We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.
:
: : Well, it could be difficult but surely they expected there would
come a
: : day?...
:
: Given this scenario , with your Mom, not likely to suddently start
doing
: all these things. Is there a senior living place in the area, the
kind
: where you live in an apartment and get meals and once a week cleaning
and
: linen change? This migh tbe what they will have to think of, even if
your
: father regains some mobility, etc. It is a big change and will,
probably
: necessitate their selling their house in this bad markt or, at least
: renting it. Don't jump and say"never" r "they won't" etc. these
kinds of
: things do become a reality after a shileunless one of you is prepared
to
: have them move in with them, which can be EXTREMELY difficult.

: There is one near us and they have refused to go. My mom said they can
: never move out of their house. She isn't being reasonable on many
fronts.
: OTOH it is highly unlikely that their house would sell. They have 1
11/2
: baths and the realtor said people do not want this. Now they want 2
full
: baths.

: Their house is paid off. So they only pay the taxes. There is no way
they
: could afford rent unless they could sell the house.

What I said ws they could rent the house (out to someone), thus havig
monthly income for whatever.

Wendy



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In article , "W. Baker"
wrote:

: Their house is paid off. So they only pay the taxes. There is no way they
: could afford rent unless they could sell the house.

What I said ws they could rent the house (out to someone), thus havig
monthly income for whatever.


and of course there are those pesky reverse mortgages
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"Ozgirl" wrote in message
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Ozgirl" wrote in message
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Ozgirl" wrote in message
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"Julie Bove" wrote in message
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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i hope he recovers quickly, Lee

Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't do
it. I don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When we
moved back here we did try to buy a house in their city but we just
couldn't afford it. Actually the house next door to them was for
sale. I did live in it once. But it has stairs and that is no good
for me. So we didn't consider it.

We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to
keep going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but her
parents are both in really bad shape and they have been doing a lot
to help with them.

Well there is still time to think about and discuss amongst yourselves
worst case scenarios. I think if he ever drives again it might be a
long time coming. But people adapt to that. My grandparents had to
when it was no longer safe for my grandfather to drive (not that he
was ever safe, but that's another story!) Once things have settled
down I think it quite fair to say take your mum shopping for food
every so often, pay bills whatever but not be expected to be on call
as such. I actually think it was better you aren't living close by
given they are a "bit" difficult. I think most aging people know there
will come a time when life changes for them.

My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food
they do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go
out to eat. And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food. I
don't think there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried to
get them to do this online but they just refuse to do it that way.

Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino in
another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between the
two of them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have a
maid who comes once a week and they refuse to be home when she is
there. They also go to the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know
how they afford it. We go to the movies once a month, mainly because
they want to go. We can't really afford to go much more often than
that. And we sure can't dine out as often as they do!

I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His
BG was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner
tonight.

The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
herself. She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my
brother. Or my nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once in
a while she will ask me to do something for her. But I have the
mindset that I will show you once, or maybe even twice how to do
something and then you'd better be able to do it yourself! Now sure I
do make exceptions. Like I know she is going blind so if it's a matter
of having to be able to read or see something, I know she isn't
capable. But there are things that to me are simple things and she
refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She has
my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she freaked
when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item for
her before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I think her
memory is really going. She got very upset with me for ordering it.
So I am really torn on this. And other things involving the computer
that to me are easy to fix. She normally relies on my brother to do
computer things because he is a programmer.

I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
maintenance or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she
tried. It is just a given that my dad will do these things for her.

We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.

Well, it could be difficult but surely they expected there would come a
day?...


I don't think she ever thought of it.


Well it will be a swim or sink situation especially if your dad isn't
capable of driving anymore.


Yes. I guess we'll see how it all plays out.


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"W. Baker" wrote in message
...
Julie Bove wrote:

: "W. Baker" wrote in message
: ...
: Ozgirl wrote:
:
:
: : "Julie Bove" wrote in message
: :
: : My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little
food
: : they do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they
go
: : out to eat. And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast
food.
: : I don't think there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have
tried
: : to get them to do this online but they just refuse to do it that
way.
: :
: : Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the
casino
: : in another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments
between
: : the two of them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also
have
: : a maid who comes once a week and they refuse to be home when she
is
: : there. They also go to the movies a lot too. I honestly don't
know
: : how they afford it. We go to the movies once a month, mainly
because
: : they want to go. We can't really afford to go much more often
than
: : that. And we sure can't dine out as often as they do!
: :
: : I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about
the
: : insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now.
His
: : BG was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner
: : tonight.
: :
: : The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
: : herself. She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or
my
: : brother. Or my nephew. And she pays him to do things for her.
Once
: : in a while she will ask me to do something for her. But I have
the
: : mindset that I will show you once, or maybe even twice how to do
: : something and then you'd better be able to do it yourself! Now
sure I
: : do make exceptions. Like I know she is going blind so if it's a
: : matter of having to be able to read or see something, I know she
isn't
: : capable. But there are things that to me are simple things and
she
: : refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online. She
has
: : my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she
freaked
: : when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this
item
: : for her before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I
: : think her memory is really going. She got very upset with me for
: : ordering it. So I am really torn on this. And other things
involving
: : the computer that to me are easy to fix. She normally relies on
my
: : brother to do computer things because he is a programmer.
: :
: : I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
: : maintenance or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has
she
: : tried. It is just a given that my dad will do these things for
her.
: :
: : We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.
:
: : Well, it could be difficult but surely they expected there would
come a
: : day?...
:
: Given this scenario , with your Mom, not likely to suddently start
doing
: all these things. Is there a senior living place in the area, the
kind
: where you live in an apartment and get meals and once a week cleaning
and
: linen change? This migh tbe what they will have to think of, even if
your
: father regains some mobility, etc. It is a big change and will,
probably
: necessitate their selling their house in this bad markt or, at least
: renting it. Don't jump and say"never" r "they won't" etc. these
kinds of
: things do become a reality after a shileunless one of you is prepared
to
: have them move in with them, which can be EXTREMELY difficult.

: There is one near us and they have refused to go. My mom said they can
: never move out of their house. She isn't being reasonable on many
fronts.
: OTOH it is highly unlikely that their house would sell. They have 1
11/2
: baths and the realtor said people do not want this. Now they want 2
full
: baths.

: Their house is paid off. So they only pay the taxes. There is no way
they
: could afford rent unless they could sell the house.

What I said ws they could rent the house (out to someone), thus havig
monthly income for whatever.


They would never rent a house again. They did that once. When we moved out
here, our house in Wichita hadn't sold. They lost soooo much money on those
renters.

There are two other houses on their street that have been rentals. One was
really, really trashed. The owner had made it into a place for college
students to stay. He didn't have any problems renting out the rooms because
they are close to the community college. But the woman who was in charge of
things was apparently a hoarder. She had even gone so far as to build some
kind of covered thing in the backyard to store stuff. We watched in horror
as all this crap came out on the lawn. There were even kid's ride on toys
and no kids had ever lived there. He had to spend a fortune to get the
house livable again.

The house next door to theirs has been being rented for years because nobody
wants to buy it. Nobody stays there for long. Often they are there for
just 2 or 3 months then they pack up and move. He is certainly not making
any money at all. The size of house they have rents for about $2,000 a
month and in this economy, people can't afford to pay it. And each time
someone moves out there are some kind of damages that have to be dealt with.
He did recently put a bathroom in the basement in the hopes to make it more
livable.

Their house is also very prone to flooding and for that reason alone I don't
think they would want to rent it. I think they would be liable if it did
flood. And they have a sump pump that needs to be dealt with every few
months. I don't know the particulars. But I am pretty sure it is something
a renter wouldn't deal with.




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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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and find a different realtor, lots of houses still have only one full
bath, trust me i have been doing a LOT of looking at houses/plans...


Not here they don't. Some have 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 and some have only one. But
few have 1 1/2. Even my friend's post war house has two full baths. My
brother bought his house in the 80's and it has 2 1/2. That has been pretty
standard here in all new housing for quite a while.

My parents did look into adding another 1/2 bath in their basement but
decided against it because it was going to cost $10,000. And that was a
long time ago.

Most people here who do not have 2 full baths do a remodel at some point and
put in at least another 1 3/4 bath.


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"W. Baker" wrote in message
...
Tiger Lily wrote:
: On 9/4/2011 3:23 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
: wrote in message
: ...
:
:
: "Julie wrote in message
: ...
:
: wrote in message
: ...
: i hope he recovers quickly, Lee
:
: Thanks! I hope he gets well enough to drive because my mom can't do
it.
: I don't really fancy having to drive them everywhere. When we moved
back
: here we did try to buy a house in their city but we just couldn't
afford
: it. Actually the house next door to them was for sale. I did live in
it
: once. But it has stairs and that is no good for me. So we didn't
consider
: it.
:
: We live far enough away from them now that it is a pain to have to
keep
: going out there. My brother and SIL do live near them but her
parents
: are both in really bad shape and they have been doing a lot to help
with
: them.
:
: Well there is still time to think about and discuss amongst
yourselves
: worst case scenarios. I think if he ever drives again it might be a
long
: time coming. But people adapt to that. My grandparents had to when it
was
: no longer safe for my grandfather to drive (not that he was ever
safe, but
: that's another story!) Once things have settled down I think it quite
fair
: to say take your mum shopping for food every so often, pay bills
whatever
: but not be expected to be on call as such. I actually think it was
better
: you aren't living close by given they are a "bit" difficult. I think
most
: aging people know there will come a time when life changes for them.
:
: My mom doesn't shop for food. And that's a problem. What little food
they
: do keep in the house is stuff that my dad buys. Mostly they go out to
eat.
: And if they don't do that he gets some sort of fast food. I don't
think
: there is any need to go out to pay bills. I have tried to get them to
do
: this online but they just refuse to do it that way.
:
: Mostly if they are not going out to eat they are going to the casino
in
: another city, to the Dr. (they have a lot of appointments between the
two of
: them) and to the massage therapist weekly. They also have a maid who
comes
: once a week and they refuse to be home when she is there. They also
go to
: the movies a lot too. I honestly don't know how they afford it. We
go to
: the movies once a month, mainly because they want to go. We can't
really
: afford to go much more often than that. And we sure can't dine out as
often
: as they do!
:
: I think all of their prescriptions come by mail. Not sure about the
: insulin. They have my dad on some other kind with meals for now. His
BG
: was high when they admitted him but it was good before dinner tonight.
:
: The biggest problem is that my mom doesn't do a lot of things for
herself.
: She just expects my dad to do these things for her. Or my brother.
Or my
: nephew. And she pays him to do things for her. Once in a while she
will
: ask me to do something for her. But I have the mindset that I will
show you
: once, or maybe even twice how to do something and then you'd better be
able
: to do it yourself! Now sure I do make exceptions. Like I know she is
going
: blind so if it's a matter of having to be able to read or see
something, I
: know she isn't capable. But there are things that to me are simple
things
: and she refuses to learn how to do them. Like ordering stuff online.
She
: has my dad do it for her. She did have me do it once but then she
freaked
: when she found out how much the item cost! I had ordered this item
for her
: before and I thought she knew that it was expensive but I think her
memory
: is really going. She got very upset with me for ordering it. So I am
: really torn on this. And other things involving the computer that to
me are
: easy to fix. She normally relies on my brother to do computer things
: because he is a programmer.
:
: I don't think she has ever put gas in the car, taken the car for
maintenance
: or repairs. She has never assembled things nor has she tried. It is
just a
: given that my dad will do these things for her.
:
: We'll see. Looks like we are not in for a good time though.
:
:
: The is an elderly couple who take a taxi to/from the restaurant every
: day for their dinner. Dinner is 4:30 pm for them and they take home 1/2
: the senior's portion they just ate. The lady indicates that a soft
: boiled egg, toast and coffee is their morning meal; the left overs are
: their mid day meal; dinner ensures they have at least lunch at home the
: next day.

: i didn't define elderly
: he's 102 and she's 97

: kate

Do they have a senior feeding program either like senior lunches for a
small fee or meals on wheels whic bring a prepared meal to the house 5 das
a week? The other meals woul only entail light shopping that your mother
could learn to do or that one of you could send over or oder from the
computer.


Not that I know of but I am pretty sure neither of them would eat that sort
of thing. They are both really picky eaters and they don't like to eat at
home. There is a Greek place and an Italian place that deliver. They do
get food from them once in a while. But they are not cheap and not really
what they should be eating. Too many carbs.


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amazing, i have looked at house plans all over the us, contractors, modular
homes and so on... even some subdivision plans, all have additional
bathrooms in different configurations as options, from the standard one
bathroom then add a half bath on up, even saw a few that had one full bath
central to the bedrooms and three different half baths, one in master
bedroom, one off livingroom and one between two other bedrooms, now that one
was kinda weird, Lee
"Julie Bove" wrote in message
...

"Storrmmee" wrote in message
...
and find a different realtor, lots of houses still have only one full
bath, trust me i have been doing a LOT of looking at houses/plans...


Not here they don't. Some have 2 1/2 or 3 1/2 and some have only one.
But few have 1 1/2. Even my friend's post war house has two full baths.
My brother bought his house in the 80's and it has 2 1/2. That has been
pretty standard here in all new housing for quite a while.

My parents did look into adding another 1/2 bath in their basement but
decided against it because it was going to cost $10,000. And that was a
long time ago.

Most people here who do not have 2 full baths do a remodel at some point
and put in at least another 1 3/4 bath.



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amazing, i have looked at house plans all over the us, contractors,
modular homes and so on... even some subdivision plans, all have
additional bathrooms in different configurations as options, from the
standard one bathroom then add a half bath on up, even saw a few that had
one full bath central to the bedrooms and three different half baths, one
in master bedroom, one off livingroom and one between two other bedrooms,
now that one was kinda weird, Lee


The new houses they are building here (and they are going up right and left)
are all very similar in design. The realtor called them cookie cutter
houses because they all look alike, except in some cases for the color. All
very close together. Little to no yard. And very tall. Several flights of
stairs. We didn't look at those because I can't do stairs. But from the
listings I have seen most have 3 full baths. Some have 2. Most are selling
for around $500,000.00. I don't know how people can afford that.

They've also done away with basements which used to be a very common thing.
I was told that they only put them in now if the house is being built on a
hill. Otherwise it is too expensive to put in.

My husband refused to look at any places that didn't have two full baths.
He doesn't like all of the girly products that Angela and I use. He only
wants to see soap, a razor, a toothbrush and toothpaste in the bathroom. So
he really needs his own.


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whoever told you that basements were too expensive has no idea what they are
talking about, the basmement is some of the cheapest living space
available, most try to get you to do the basement and second story because
its so much cheaper than all on one level, ... 500k for somewhere to live is
insane...

It is my firm conviction that a two bathroom household is the main cause for
keeping divorce rates below about the 99 percent rate... mine gets the seat
down, i never assume anything if i use his... mine is cleaned weekly, he
does his when he feels like, or one of us does it if we hare having
guests... he can sit in there all day and read a mitchner novel, since i can
go when i want...

Lee
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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amazing, i have looked at house plans all over the us, contractors,
modular homes and so on... even some subdivision plans, all have
additional bathrooms in different configurations as options, from the
standard one bathroom then add a half bath on up, even saw a few that
had one full bath central to the bedrooms and three different half baths,
one in master bedroom, one off livingroom and one between two other
bedrooms, now that one was kinda weird, Lee


The new houses they are building here (and they are going up right and
left) are all very similar in design. The realtor called them cookie
cutter houses because they all look alike, except in some cases for the
color. All very close together. Little to no yard. And very tall.
Several flights of stairs. We didn't look at those because I can't do
stairs. But from the listings I have seen most have 3 full baths. Some
have 2. Most are selling for around $500,000.00. I don't know how
people can afford that.

They've also done away with basements which used to be a very common
thing. I was told that they only put them in now if the house is being
built on a hill. Otherwise it is too expensive to put in.

My husband refused to look at any places that didn't have two full baths.
He doesn't like all of the girly products that Angela and I use. He only
wants to see soap, a razor, a toothbrush and toothpaste in the bathroom.
So he really needs his own.





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whoever told you that basements were too expensive has no idea what they
are talking about, the basmement is some of the cheapest living space
available, most try to get you to do the basement and second story because
its so much cheaper than all on one level, ... 500k for somewhere to live
is insane...

It is my firm conviction that a two bathroom household is the main cause
for keeping divorce rates below about the 99 percent rate... mine gets the
seat down, i never assume anything if i use his... mine is cleaned weekly,
he does his when he feels like, or one of us does it if we hare having
guests... he can sit in there all day and read a mitchner novel, since i
can go when i want...


I think that depends on the type of soil you have. Here if you dig out a
basement you have to do a lot of rock removal. And often very big rocks.
You also have to put in a lot of drainage things and perhaps a sump pump
because of the flooding issues.


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thats almost everywhere for the rock/pumps, unless you have the misfortune
to be digging in clay, like i said, i have been investigating all manner of
housing and there are just some things tht are common in almost evry
market... our house would have been about a third less had we opted for a
basement, and put the bedrooms upstairs, but i am havoing non of either, Lee
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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whoever told you that basements were too expensive has no idea what they
are talking about, the basmement is some of the cheapest living space
available, most try to get you to do the basement and second story
because its so much cheaper than all on one level, ... 500k for somewhere
to live is insane...

It is my firm conviction that a two bathroom household is the main cause
for keeping divorce rates below about the 99 percent rate... mine gets
the seat down, i never assume anything if i use his... mine is cleaned
weekly, he does his when he feels like, or one of us does it if we hare
having guests... he can sit in there all day and read a mitchner novel,
since i can go when i want...


I think that depends on the type of soil you have. Here if you dig out a
basement you have to do a lot of rock removal. And often very big rocks.
You also have to put in a lot of drainage things and perhaps a sump pump
because of the flooding issues.



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thats almost everywhere for the rock/pumps, unless you have the misfortune
to be digging in clay, like i said, i have been investigating all manner
of housing and there are just some things tht are common in almost evry
market... our house would have been about a third less had we opted for a
basement, and put the bedrooms upstairs, but i am havoing non of either,
Lee


Hmmm... I don't know then. We were told that is why they generally don't
build them that way any more in this area.


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seems like they had something they wanted to sell you, or it was a builder
that had supplies to use, that occurs a lot here with subdivision
builders,... also the only thing that really determines what sells/makes
costs go up are things like earthquakes or flood issues... one thing that
most of the builders kept trying to sell us was the "tornado/storm" safe
room/location... only xxx estra/ and to date i have never been in a home
that has one... most people do have a basement here. so that is what they
use. Lee
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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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thats almost everywhere for the rock/pumps, unless you have the
misfortune to be digging in clay, like i said, i have been investigating
all manner of housing and there are just some things tht are common in
almost evry market... our house would have been about a third less had we
opted for a basement, and put the bedrooms upstairs, but i am havoing non
of either, Lee


Hmmm... I don't know then. We were told that is why they generally don't
build them that way any more in this area.



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"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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seems like they had something they wanted to sell you, or it was a builder
that had supplies to use, that occurs a lot here with subdivision
builders,... also the only thing that really determines what sells/makes
costs go up are things like earthquakes or flood issues... one thing that
most of the builders kept trying to sell us was the "tornado/storm" safe
room/location... only xxx estra/ and to date i have never been in a home
that has one... most people do have a basement here. so that is what they
use. Lee


I don't know. I did just look it up online and it said at many sites that
basements aren't cost effective.




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