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Evelyn wrote:
[ . . . . ]
Carbs, low carb, high carb, limited carb, these same issues come up
again and again on these groups. I listen to my dietician. She's a
professional, and I feel better and do well with her advice.


I listen to my glucometer. I check its accuracy by comparing my reading
with my doctors, every three months. That's when I get my A1c checked,
too.


ABSOLUTELY!

I come to these groups for friendship and support, not medical advice,
and if I get some medical advice, I appreciate the effort, but follow
my doctor and dietician and use my meter.... foremost!


I've also learned a lot in these NGs, too. Like about Dr. Burzynski.

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Evelyn wrote:
"Julie Bove" wrote:
"Evelyn" wrote in message
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:43:02 -0700, Tiger Lily wrote:
On 1/4/2012 7:55 PM, Evelyn wrote:
For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken,
cooked in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my
house.

On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact
of it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
plastic containing carcinogens.

In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in
a hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.


grin, i do believe we have a conceptual problem here, most likely not
fixable

Evelyn, i use the broth in the 'boxes' for lack of better word, only
because those contain less salt............ is there plastic to worry
about there too? (i make most chicken broth, this is for those 'oops'
situations)

i think i'm going to have some highly process Hawkin's Cheesies right
now, i have 15 min more that i'm allowed to eat

or maybe ...........



The liners in boxes and in cans is turning out to be a bigger problem
than anyone is overtly admitting. EVERYTHING comes in plastic of
some kind these days.

Even bottled water....


But not all plastic is a problem.


A LOT of it is. More, I would guess, than we realize.


Franklin's lost expedition ate a lot of canned food. ;-(

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On 06 Jan 2012 07:21:43 GMT, Nick Cramer
wrote:

Evelyn wrote:
"Julie Bove" wrote:
"Evelyn" wrote in message
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:43:02 -0700, Tiger Lily wrote:
On 1/4/2012 7:55 PM, Evelyn wrote:
For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken,
cooked in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my
house.

On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact
of it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
plastic containing carcinogens.

In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in
a hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A FRESH
chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.


grin, i do believe we have a conceptual problem here, most likely not
fixable

Evelyn, i use the broth in the 'boxes' for lack of better word, only
because those contain less salt............ is there plastic to worry
about there too? (i make most chicken broth, this is for those 'oops'
situations)

i think i'm going to have some highly process Hawkin's Cheesies right
now, i have 15 min more that i'm allowed to eat

or maybe ...........



The liners in boxes and in cans is turning out to be a bigger problem
than anyone is overtly admitting. EVERYTHING comes in plastic of
some kind these days.

Even bottled water....

But not all plastic is a problem.


A LOT of it is. More, I would guess, than we realize.


Franklin's lost expedition ate a lot of canned food. ;-(



They proved that most of them died of lead poisoning, since they used
to use lead to seal the sides of the can. Nowadays they seal the
inside with plastic and that is carcinogenic. The more you know the
more you realize that FRESH IS BEST!!!!!

Evelyn
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On 1/5/2012 5:11 PM, Evelyn wrote:
I just came from the vet. My gorgeous male German Shepherd, only 5
yrs old, is nearly crippled due to bad hips and elbows. It was
recommended that I go and see an animal orthopedic specialist an hour
away from here.

The dog is a wonderful pet, superb temperament, obedient, well
behaved, trustworthy with people, cats and kids of all ages, not to
mention that he is absolutely one of the most gorgeous black and red
shepherds I have ever seen or lived with. He's truly magnificent.

This promises to be a real problem.

They sent us home with anti inflammatories and pain killers. Not a
good scenario.......

Evelyn


oh, Evelyn, this is a heart breaker

i do hope your GSD has quality of life and relief from pain

***hugs***
kate
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:19:30 -0700, Tiger Lily wrote:

On 1/5/2012 5:11 PM, Evelyn wrote:
I just came from the vet. My gorgeous male German Shepherd, only 5
yrs old, is nearly crippled due to bad hips and elbows. It was
recommended that I go and see an animal orthopedic specialist an hour
away from here.

The dog is a wonderful pet, superb temperament, obedient, well
behaved, trustworthy with people, cats and kids of all ages, not to
mention that he is absolutely one of the most gorgeous black and red
shepherds I have ever seen or lived with. He's truly magnificent.

This promises to be a real problem.

They sent us home with anti inflammatories and pain killers. Not a
good scenario.......

Evelyn


oh, Evelyn, this is a heart breaker

i do hope your GSD has quality of life and relief from pain

***hugs***
kate



Thanks so much. He's doing a lot better on the anti inflammatories
and pain pills, but I don't kid myself that this is any thing but a
respite. His hips are a mess. :-(

Evelyn


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On 1/6/2012 12:54 PM, Evelyn wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:19:30 -0700, Tiger wrote:

On 1/5/2012 5:11 PM, Evelyn wrote:
I just came from the vet. My gorgeous male German Shepherd, only 5
yrs old, is nearly crippled due to bad hips and elbows. It was
recommended that I go and see an animal orthopedic specialist an hour
away from here.

The dog is a wonderful pet, superb temperament, obedient, well
behaved, trustworthy with people, cats and kids of all ages, not to
mention that he is absolutely one of the most gorgeous black and red
shepherds I have ever seen or lived with. He's truly magnificent.

This promises to be a real problem.

They sent us home with anti inflammatories and pain killers. Not a
good scenario.......

Evelyn


oh, Evelyn, this is a heart breaker

i do hope your GSD has quality of life and relief from pain

***hugs***
kate



Thanks so much. He's doing a lot better on the anti inflammatories
and pain pills, but I don't kid myself that this is any thing but a
respite. His hips are a mess. :-(

Evelyn


Evelyn, i know folks who have paid $3K/hip to fix this for their dogs.
The dogs ended up on more pain killers and perhaps a couple of years
of..... living?
It's sad and it's hard to deal with. Dogs give us unconditional LOVE!

***hugs***
kate
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"Evelyn" wrote in message
...
On 06 Jan 2012 07:21:43 GMT, Nick Cramer
wrote:

Evelyn wrote:
"Julie Bove" wrote:
"Evelyn" wrote in message
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:43:02 -0700, Tiger Lily
wrote:
On 1/4/2012 7:55 PM, Evelyn wrote:
For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken,
cooked in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my
house.

On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact
of it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
plastic containing carcinogens.

In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in
a hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A
FRESH
chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.


grin, i do believe we have a conceptual problem here, most likely not
fixable

Evelyn, i use the broth in the 'boxes' for lack of better word, only
because those contain less salt............ is there plastic to worry
about there too? (i make most chicken broth, this is for those 'oops'
situations)

i think i'm going to have some highly process Hawkin's Cheesies right
now, i have 15 min more that i'm allowed to eat

or maybe ...........



The liners in boxes and in cans is turning out to be a bigger problem
than anyone is overtly admitting. EVERYTHING comes in plastic of
some kind these days.

Even bottled water....

But not all plastic is a problem.

A LOT of it is. More, I would guess, than we realize.


Franklin's lost expedition ate a lot of canned food. ;-(



They proved that most of them died of lead poisoning, since they used
to use lead to seal the sides of the can. Nowadays they seal the
inside with plastic and that is carcinogenic. The more you know the
more you realize that FRESH IS BEST!!!!!


Can you provide proof of this? Because when I looked it up it says most
plastic is not!


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In article ,
Evelyn wrote:

The BPA is also in certain water bottles. They pulled a lot of baby
bottles that had it in them.


I got a stainless steel water bottle.

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On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 13:29:39 -0700, Tiger Lily wrote:

On 1/6/2012 12:54 PM, Evelyn wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:19:30 -0700, Tiger wrote:

On 1/5/2012 5:11 PM, Evelyn wrote:
I just came from the vet. My gorgeous male German Shepherd, only 5
yrs old, is nearly crippled due to bad hips and elbows. It was
recommended that I go and see an animal orthopedic specialist an hour
away from here.

The dog is a wonderful pet, superb temperament, obedient, well
behaved, trustworthy with people, cats and kids of all ages, not to
mention that he is absolutely one of the most gorgeous black and red
shepherds I have ever seen or lived with. He's truly magnificent.

This promises to be a real problem.

They sent us home with anti inflammatories and pain killers. Not a
good scenario.......

Evelyn

oh, Evelyn, this is a heart breaker

i do hope your GSD has quality of life and relief from pain

***hugs***
kate



Thanks so much. He's doing a lot better on the anti inflammatories
and pain pills, but I don't kid myself that this is any thing but a
respite. His hips are a mess. :-(

Evelyn


Evelyn, i know folks who have paid $3K/hip to fix this for their dogs.
The dogs ended up on more pain killers and perhaps a couple of years
of..... living?
It's sad and it's hard to deal with. Dogs give us unconditional LOVE!

***hugs***
kate



We won't put him through medical hell, and we really can't afford to
on our side either. I had a dog with displaysia before and he lived
to be ten yrs old before he got bad enough to be put down. It broke
my heart and I still cry if I think of him. I don't want to think
about where this will go because it is too painful to contemplate. I
am going to take this one day at a time. For the moment, we are
seeing improvement. That is good.

Evelyn
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 13:28:57 -0800, "Julie Bove"
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"Evelyn" wrote in message
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On 06 Jan 2012 07:21:43 GMT, Nick Cramer
wrote:

Evelyn wrote:
"Julie Bove" wrote:
"Evelyn" wrote in message
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:43:02 -0700, Tiger Lily
wrote:
On 1/4/2012 7:55 PM, Evelyn wrote:
For your information, a rotisserie chicken is a FRESH chicken,
cooked in the store, THAT DAY as opposed to being cooked in my
house.

On the other hand, canned broth may have been made a year ago. We
have no way of knowing how old it is, not to mention the very fact
of it being canned isn't really good for you. Cans are lined with
plastic containing carcinogens.

In spite of that, I occasionally will use canned broth when I am in
a hurry too. Fresh is always better than prepared foods. A
FRESH
chicken (no matter where it is cooked) is not the same thing as
something in a can or a box meant to last for months on end.

grin, i do believe we have a conceptual problem here, most likely not
fixable

Evelyn, i use the broth in the 'boxes' for lack of better word, only
because those contain less salt............ is there plastic to worry
about there too? (i make most chicken broth, this is for those 'oops'
situations)

i think i'm going to have some highly process Hawkin's Cheesies right
now, i have 15 min more that i'm allowed to eat

or maybe ...........



The liners in boxes and in cans is turning out to be a bigger problem
than anyone is overtly admitting. EVERYTHING comes in plastic of
some kind these days.

Even bottled water....

But not all plastic is a problem.

A LOT of it is. More, I would guess, than we realize.

Franklin's lost expedition ate a lot of canned food. ;-(



They proved that most of them died of lead poisoning, since they used
to use lead to seal the sides of the can. Nowadays they seal the
inside with plastic and that is carcinogenic. The more you know the
more you realize that FRESH IS BEST!!!!!


Can you provide proof of this? Because when I looked it up it says most
plastic is not!


Did you read the article Susan posted? Do some research. There are
plenty of articles out there on the subject.

Evelyn


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On 1/6/2012 5:39 PM, Evelyn wrote:
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am going to take this one day at a time. For the moment, we are
seeing improvement. That is good.

Evelyn


hope i didn't get heavy on you Evelyn

***hugs*** to you and your beautiful GSD

take heart at the improvement

kate
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:06:43 -0700, Tiger Lily wrote:

On 1/6/2012 5:39 PM, Evelyn wrote:
I
am going to take this one day at a time. For the moment, we are
seeing improvement. That is good.

Evelyn


hope i didn't get heavy on you Evelyn

***hugs*** to you and your beautiful GSD

take heart at the improvement

kate


Thanks. It is good to see him feeling better. He's been pretty
miserable, limping around while we waited for the appointment.

Evelyn
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Thanks. It is good to see him feeling better. He's been pretty
miserable, limping around while we waited for the appointment.

Evelyn


I remember Baron, and I hope you see more improvement soon.

Cheri


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Evelyn wrote:
Nick Cramer wrote:
Evelyn wrote:
"Julie Bove" wrote:
[ . . . . ]
But not all plastic is a problem.

A LOT of it is. More, I would guess, than we realize.


Franklin's lost expedition ate a lot of canned food. ;-(


They proved that most of them died of lead poisoning, since they used
to use lead to seal the sides of the can. Nowadays they seal the
inside with plastic and that is carcinogenic. The more you know the
more you realize that FRESH IS BEST!!!!!


A lot of foods aren't available fresh here in Kalifornia. I can't get fresh
lamb from NZ or Oz. I can't get fresh sadau from Thailand. I have to get
them frozen. @#$%^&*

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On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:46:29 -0800, "Cheri"
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"Evelyn" wrote in message
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Thanks. It is good to see him feeling better. He's been pretty
miserable, limping around while we waited for the appointment.

Evelyn


I remember Baron, and I hope you see more improvement soon.

Cheri



My first dog was named Baron and he had displasia also. He lived to
be almost ten, which is pretty good considering he had NO hip sockets.
According to experts I consulted back then, dogs with very bad
displasia often do better than those with slight displasia in the
actual process of living.

My second Baron died of bone cancer which occurred after he had a
tumor on his tail. He never showed any signs of hip issues.

This guy is named Max, and he is probably one of the most gorgeous
German Shepherds I have ever seen. A beautiful black and red, big
boned, huge head, and the sweetest temperament you can imagine. He is
well behaved, trained, and he likes dogs, cats, people, children,
babies..... I trust him around them all.

He is only about 6 yrs old, so I am hoping to be able to find a
combination of medicine and a gentle exercise regimen that will keep
him mobile for a little longer. If he was an older dog, I would not
be so inclined to put him through it, but I think he is worth it.

He's amazing as a pet and guard dog, not to mention how good he is
with the grandchildren and our cats.

Evelyn


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