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From Wells Fargo Daily Advantage:
"Just about a week ago, two food industry trade groups announced voluntary, standardized practices intended to clear up confusion about 10 separate label phrases such as Sell By, Use By, Expires On, Best Before, Better if Used By, or Best By. Manufacturers are now encouraged to use only two: "Best if Used By" and "Use By." "Best If Used By" describes product quality: The product taste or performance may suffer after the indicated date but is safe to consume or use. "Use By" applies to highly perishable products and/or food safety concerns. These products should be consumed by the date listed on the package or disposed of after that date. The promulgation of new labelling practices acknowledges that the rules were left to manufacturers in the past, which may be at the root of label proliferation. The new rules also appear to acknowledge that past practices caused consumer confusion. A survey found 91% of consumers mistakenly tossed food if the "Best if used by" label had passed, when that only signals the manufacturer's guess at its peak quality. The standards are voluntary, so there's no guarantee of adoption. In addition, the roll-out offers great leeway for implementation that extends to July 2018 for those manufacturers that adopt the standards." This is a great initiative. |
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On 2/24/2017 8:49 PM, Alex wrote:
From Wells Fargo Daily Advantage: The new rules also appear to acknowledge that past practices caused consumer confusion. A survey found 91% of consumers mistakenly tossed food if the "Best if used by" label had passed, when that only signals the manufacturer's guess at its peak quality. The standards are voluntary, so there's no guarantee of adoption. In addition, the roll-out offers great leeway for implementation that extends to July 2018 for those manufacturers that adopt the standards." This is a great initiative. This is great. I get up every day at midnight and check to expiration dates so I can toss the expired stuff. |
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Sqwertz wrote:
On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 22:04:47 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/24/2017 8:49 PM, Alex wrote: From Wells Fargo Daily Advantage: The new rules also appear to acknowledge that past practices caused consumer confusion. A survey found 91% of consumers mistakenly tossed food if the "Best if used by" label had passed, when that only signals the manufacturer's guess at its peak quality. The standards are voluntary, so there's no guarantee of adoption. In addition, the roll-out offers great leeway for implementation that extends to July 2018 for those manufacturers that adopt the standards." This is a great initiative. This is great. I get up every day at midnight and check to expiration dates so I can toss the expired stuff. Soda I. But I do it an hour later because of the time zone thing. -sw I just found some butter in an other fridge that had a late 2015 date on it, it was perfectly alright in the centre after I took 1/8" off all round ( I then used the outside bit in a cake) |
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On 2017-02-25, Alex wrote:
From Wells Fargo Daily Advantage: "Just about a week ago, two food industry trade groups announced voluntary, standardized practices intended to clear up confusion about 10 separate label phrases such as Sell By, Use By, Expires On, Best Before, Better if Used By, or Best By. Manufacturers are now encouraged to use only two: "Best if Used By" and "Use By." Any bogus issue to avoid actually labelling food with the real ingredients, including GMO foods. Apparently, it's OK to change the labels 2-3 times a yr, like telling ppl pointless nonsense like how this food is "new" and "improved" or when to toss this container and buy another one. BUT, when having to show what's actually included, well, that's gonna drive food prices through the roof and we will all starve to death! Krikies!! This is a great initiative. If yer a complete moron. ![]() nb |
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On 2/24/2017 10:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 2/24/2017 8:49 PM, Alex wrote: From Wells Fargo Daily Advantage: The new rules also appear to acknowledge that past practices caused consumer confusion. A survey found 91% of consumers mistakenly tossed food if the "Best if used by" label had passed, when that only signals the manufacturer's guess at its peak quality. The standards are voluntary, so there's no guarantee of adoption. In addition, the roll-out offers great leeway for implementation that extends to July 2018 for those manufacturers that adopt the standards." This is a great initiative. This is great. I get up every day at midnight and check to expiration dates so I can toss the expired stuff. Damn! I have some cream that expired two days ago. I missed the deadline! People get so het up about these dates. Most of us know they're really just a best guess. If you need a date stamp to tell you when food has gone bad you really shouldn't be shopping for, or preparing, food. There was a former poster here who used to throw away [what sounded like] a lot of food based on those random dates. She's the type of consumer this rule change is geared towards, to prevent the unnecessary throwing out of perfectly good food. Jill |
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On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:50:00 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
From Wells Fargo Daily Advantage: "Just about a week ago, two food industry trade groups announced voluntary, standardized practices intended to clear up confusion about 10 separate label phrases such as Sell By, Use By, Expires On, Best Before, Better if Used By, or Best By. Manufacturers are now encouraged to use only two: "Best if Used By" and "Use By." "Best If Used By" describes product quality: The product taste or performance may suffer after the indicated date but is safe to consume or use. "Use By" applies to highly perishable products and/or food safety concerns. These products should be consumed by the date listed on the package or disposed of after that date. The promulgation of new labelling practices acknowledges that the rules were left to manufacturers in the past, which may be at the root of label proliferation. The new rules also appear to acknowledge that past practices caused consumer confusion. A survey found 91% of consumers mistakenly tossed food if the "Best if used by" label had passed, when that only signals the manufacturer's guess at its peak quality. The standards are voluntary, so there's no guarantee of adoption. In addition, the roll-out offers great leeway for implementation that extends to July 2018 for those manufacturers that adopt the standards." This is a great initiative. I don't need no stinkin' "best by" dating. I got my own thresholds. And anyway, having the ability to eat foods that aren't fresh is a useful survival strategy. I once had some steak that was way past fresh in the back of my refrigerator. It was all brown and dried up. It was a nice looking steak when fried and was the tenderest, tastiest, most memorable steak I ever had. It did taste a little funky but I dream about that piece of meat. They should put a "best by" label on people. Some of them are way past their freshness date in their approach to life and other people. ![]() |
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"dsi1" wrote in message
... On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:50:00 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote: From Wells Fargo Daily Advantage: "Just about a week ago, two food industry trade groups announced voluntary, standardized practices intended to clear up confusion about 10 separate label phrases such as Sell By, Use By, Expires On, Best Before, Better if Used By, or Best By. Manufacturers are now encouraged to use only two: "Best if Used By" and "Use By." "Best If Used By" describes product quality: The product taste or performance may suffer after the indicated date but is safe to consume or use. "Use By" applies to highly perishable products and/or food safety concerns. These products should be consumed by the date listed on the package or disposed of after that date. The promulgation of new labelling practices acknowledges that the rules were left to manufacturers in the past, which may be at the root of label proliferation. The new rules also appear to acknowledge that past practices caused consumer confusion. A survey found 91% of consumers mistakenly tossed food if the "Best if used by" label had passed, when that only signals the manufacturer's guess at its peak quality. The standards are voluntary, so there's no guarantee of adoption. In addition, the roll-out offers great leeway for implementation that extends to July 2018 for those manufacturers that adopt the standards." This is a great initiative. I don't need no stinkin' "best by" dating. I got my own thresholds. And anyway, having the ability to eat foods that aren't fresh is a useful survival strategy. I once had some steak that was way past fresh in the back of my refrigerator. It was all brown and dried up. It was a nice looking steak when fried and was the tenderest, tastiest, most memorable steak I ever had. It did taste a little funky but I dream about that piece of meat. They should put a "best by" label on people. Some of them are way past their freshness date in their approach to life and other people. ![]() ==== LOL I use my nose and experience to determine if something is still good to eat ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk |
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On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 9:55:59 AM UTC-7, Jill McQuown wrote:
On 2/24/2017 10:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On 2/24/2017 8:49 PM, Alex wrote: From Wells Fargo Daily Advantage: The new rules also appear to acknowledge that past practices caused consumer confusion. A survey found 91% of consumers mistakenly tossed food if the "Best if used by" label had passed, when that only signals the manufacturer's guess at its peak quality. The standards are voluntary, so there's no guarantee of adoption. In addition, the roll-out offers great leeway for implementation that extends to July 2018 for those manufacturers that adopt the standards." This is a great initiative. This is great. I get up every day at midnight and check to expiration dates so I can toss the expired stuff. Damn! I have some cream that expired two days ago. I missed the deadline! People get so het up about these dates. Most of us know they're really just a best guess. If you need a date stamp to tell you when food has gone bad you really shouldn't be shopping for, or preparing, food. There was a former poster here who used to throw away [what sounded like] a lot of food based on those random dates. She's the type of consumer this rule change is geared towards, to prevent the unnecessary throwing out of perfectly good food. Jill I'm sure that "former poster" would find some way to get around the new rules so that she/he could toss food because she/he loved to shop for more food. I know people who just love shopping at the malls...personally I hate malls with a passion. My wife had a helluva time getting me to go to them but the kids were always gung ho. ===== |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 12:06:11 -0800 (PST), dsi1
wrote: On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:50:00 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote: From Wells Fargo Daily Advantage: "Just about a week ago, two food industry trade groups announced voluntary, standardized practices intended to clear up confusion about 10 separate label phrases such as Sell By, Use By, Expires On, Best Before, Better if Used By, or Best By. Manufacturers are now encouraged to use only two: "Best if Used By" and "Use By." "Best If Used By" describes product quality: The product taste or performance may suffer after the indicated date but is safe to consume or use. "Use By" applies to highly perishable products and/or food safety concerns. These products should be consumed by the date listed on the package or disposed of after that date. The promulgation of new labelling practices acknowledges that the rules were left to manufacturers in the past, which may be at the root of label proliferation. The new rules also appear to acknowledge that past practices caused consumer confusion. A survey found 91% of consumers mistakenly tossed food if the "Best if used by" label had passed, when that only signals the manufacturer's guess at its peak quality. The standards are voluntary, so there's no guarantee of adoption. In addition, the roll-out offers great leeway for implementation that extends to July 2018 for those manufacturers that adopt the standards." This is a great initiative. I don't need no stinkin' "best by" dating. I got my own thresholds. And anyway, having the ability to eat foods that aren't fresh is a useful survival strategy. During a famine or a locust plague, you'd only be too happy with that over the date food in the back of your pantry, right? |
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i can usually tell by Smell if something is ok to injest
[if questionable, just toss it] i've used Canned goods many years after expiration dates marc |
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21blackswan wrote:
i can usually tell by Smell if something is ok to injest. There are many perfectly disease free foods that naturally smell awful to the uninitiated, like cheeses, smoked fish, and certain tropical fruits. Food contamination is like carbon monoxide, there is no odor. |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:18:43 -0500, Brooklyn1
wrote: 21blackswan wrote: i can usually tell by Smell if something is ok to injest. There are many perfectly disease free foods that naturally smell awful to the uninitiated, like cheeses, smoked fish, and certain tropical fruits. Food contamination is like carbon monoxide, there is no odor. What if an egg is contaminated with rot? |
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:19:51 +1100, Bruce
wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:18:43 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote: 21blackswan wrote: i can usually tell by Smell if something is ok to injest. There are many perfectly disease free foods that naturally smell awful to the uninitiated, like cheeses, smoked fish, and certain tropical fruits. Food contamination is like carbon monoxide, there is no odor. What if an egg is contaminated with rot? It'll smell terribly, like you, but won't cause disease |
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On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:25:19 -0500, Brooklyn1
wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 08:19:51 +1100, Bruce wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 16:18:43 -0500, Brooklyn1 wrote: 21blackswan wrote: i can usually tell by Smell if something is ok to injest. There are many perfectly disease free foods that naturally smell awful to the uninitiated, like cheeses, smoked fish, and certain tropical fruits. Food contamination is like carbon monoxide, there is no odor. What if an egg is contaminated with rot? It'll smell terribly, like you, but won't cause disease How do you know? |
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On Saturday, February 25, 2017 at 10:13:20 AM UTC-10, Ophelia wrote:
"dsi1" wrote in message ... On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 3:50:00 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote: From Wells Fargo Daily Advantage: "Just about a week ago, two food industry trade groups announced voluntary, standardized practices intended to clear up confusion about 10 separate label phrases such as Sell By, Use By, Expires On, Best Before, Better if Used By, or Best By. Manufacturers are now encouraged to use only two: "Best if Used By" and "Use By." "Best If Used By" describes product quality: The product taste or performance may suffer after the indicated date but is safe to consume or use. "Use By" applies to highly perishable products and/or food safety concerns. These products should be consumed by the date listed on the package or disposed of after that date. The promulgation of new labelling practices acknowledges that the rules were left to manufacturers in the past, which may be at the root of label proliferation. The new rules also appear to acknowledge that past practices caused consumer confusion. A survey found 91% of consumers mistakenly tossed food if the "Best if used by" label had passed, when that only signals the manufacturer's guess at its peak quality. The standards are voluntary, so there's no guarantee of adoption. In addition, the roll-out offers great leeway for implementation that extends to July 2018 for those manufacturers that adopt the standards." This is a great initiative. I don't need no stinkin' "best by" dating. I got my own thresholds. And anyway, having the ability to eat foods that aren't fresh is a useful survival strategy. I once had some steak that was way past fresh in the back of my refrigerator. It was all brown and dried up. It was a nice looking steak when fried and was the tenderest, tastiest, most memorable steak I ever had. It did taste a little funky but I dream about that piece of meat. They should put a "best by" label on people. Some of them are way past their freshness date in their approach to life and other people. ![]() ==== LOL I use my nose and experience to determine if something is still good to eat ![]() -- http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk Mostly it's a marketing scheme. A brilliant one at that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAXtjH3EmLs |
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