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This ain't smoking or grilling, so please don't flame me.
A while backi, I decided that our typical favorite for pulled pork: baked sweet potato served hollowed out with brown sugar and cinnamon in the pit, might be something to be improved upon. After a few experiments (none of God's creatures were harmed in these experiment), here's what Mrs. Nonny has declared to be the "locked in" recipe. Variations are permitted, but only if she's not told about them. grin 1 medium sweet potato for 1-2 people 3/4 cup non-packed Parmesan cheese, shaved 1 tbsp chili powder 1 tbsp brown sugar 1 tbsp dry bread crumbs Cruet with 2 tbsp catsup and 1 tsp or less Siracciasp? sauce Place the cheese and stuff in a tupperware container and shake like crazy to combine all ingredients- set aside refrigerated Nuke sweet potato about 8 minutes until barely fork tender. Peel and gently roll out between your hands to make solid Cut potato into 1/3" strips and arrange tightly on baking sheet, sprayed with Pam. Spray surface of sweet potato fingers with Pam as well. Sprinkly to cover with cheese blend. Place under broiling pan in oven broiler and go as long as you can before burning the cheese. The longer the crisper and the better. The sweet potato fingers can be deep fat fried, if you have a fryer going. They're even better if you shake them in a bag of potato flour or potato starch, but that's up to you. -- Nonny Have you ever wondered if the bills in your wallet were ever in a stripper's butt crack? Have a nice day .. |
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excellent, Lee
-- Have a wonderful day "Nonny" wrote in message ... This ain't smoking or grilling, so please don't flame me. A while backi, I decided that our typical favorite for pulled pork: baked sweet potato served hollowed out with brown sugar and cinnamon in the pit, might be something to be improved upon. After a few experiments (none of God's creatures were harmed in these experiment), here's what Mrs. Nonny has declared to be the "locked in" recipe. Variations are permitted, but only if she's not told about them. grin 1 medium sweet potato for 1-2 people 3/4 cup non-packed Parmesan cheese, shaved 1 tbsp chili powder 1 tbsp brown sugar 1 tbsp dry bread crumbs Cruet with 2 tbsp catsup and 1 tsp or less Siracciasp? sauce Place the cheese and stuff in a tupperware container and shake like crazy to combine all ingredients- set aside refrigerated Nuke sweet potato about 8 minutes until barely fork tender. Peel and gently roll out between your hands to make solid Cut potato into 1/3" strips and arrange tightly on baking sheet, sprayed with Pam. Spray surface of sweet potato fingers with Pam as well. Sprinkly to cover with cheese blend. Place under broiling pan in oven broiler and go as long as you can before burning the cheese. The longer the crisper and the better. The sweet potato fingers can be deep fat fried, if you have a fryer going. They're even better if you shake them in a bag of potato flour or potato starch, but that's up to you. -- Nonny Have you ever wondered if the bills in your wallet were ever in a stripper's butt crack? Have a nice day .. |
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![]() "Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message ... Nonny said: Nuke sweet potato about 8 minutes until barely fork tender. Peel and gently roll out between your hands to make solid Can you elaborate? I don't follow what you were doing there. I found it necessary to remove the skin from the sweet potatoes before running them through my "residential-grade" french fry cutter. They're too hard, without softening to go through without excessive and damaging force to the plastic cutter. If I had a good SS or cast french fry cutter, then I'd do them raw and include the skin, since I love the skin of a potato and feel it adds to both the flavor, texture and nutrition. By "nuke," of course I refer to the microwave oven, which I use to soften the sweet potatoes. After peeling off the skin, following a nuke, the sweet potato is pretty chewed up, so I round it back up before using the fry cutter. With the way this explanation is going, Marty, I might also see what it's like if I used a potato peeler and did the skin with it BEFORE softening the sweet potatoes. I just never tried it, so I have no opinion. . . yet. grin Cut potato into 1/3" strips and arrange tightly on baking sheet, sprayed with Pam. Spray surface of sweet potato fingers with Pam as well. Sprinkly to cover with cheese blend. Place under broiling pan in oven broiler and go as long as you can before burning the cheese. The longer the crisper and the better. The sweet potato fingers can be deep fat fried, if you have a fryer going. They're even better if you shake them in a bag of potato flour or potato starch, but that's up to you. The Parmesan mix doesn't make a mess in the deep fryer? I'd think some coating would be pretty important. Again, I'm guilty of a bad explanation. I've experimented with frying, but then laid them out on the baking sheet THEN added the sprinkle and did a quick trip through the broiler. I'll divert to my latest love in deep frying, tempura-panko coating. Whatever it is (usually shrimp, mushrooms, or onion rings around here, going to try it on chicken wings next) gets prepped as follows: Kikkoman dry tempura mix (I use a commercial pack but I'm pretty sure it's available in a grocer pack too) equal amount of ice cold "sparkling" water (I added the sparkling part, not called for by label) Panko style bread crumbs Season food as desired. Dredge pieces in some dry tempura mix just until very lightly coated. Mix equal amounts of water and tempura mix. It will foam up. Stir only until the foam subsides and dry mix incorporated, do not over mix. Dip each piece of food in the tempura, shake off excess, and quickly lay it in the panko, one side, then the other. Don't try to mush it around in there or you'll just ruin the panko with the batter. Start with small amounts of panko, and if you start getting a lot of big clumps, pull them out and add more crumbs. Set food on a rack as you finish, but don't hold, fry as soon as you finish, or you can drop one basketfull while you dredge up the next. Fry each batch at about 340F for 3-4 minutes. The resulting coating is a great combination of delicious crunch and the subtle puffiness of tempura. I'm thinking the sweet potato recipe above would be very interesting with this treatment. Chances are it will happen soon. Since it sounds like you have a handy fryer and use it frequently, give this a try and let me know what you think: Cut the sweet potato (raw) into fry-shaped strips using a knife or commercial fry cutter and then shake them in POTATO flour. Deep fry. This might give you less of an oily taste and the flour would brown up/crisp up well. Now for longer cooking foods, like chicken, I can't give time and temp. Typically jumbo wings have to go 8-9 minutes at a lower temp, say 330-335, and when I've deep fried with panko in the past, that's been too long to prevent it from getting too dark and somewhat burnt tasting, definitely over crunchy. Has anyone used panko for deep frying longer cooking items like chicken? Comments? MartyB in KC Have you tried it using 2 stages? Fry the wings a bit "naked," then remove, drain, dip and fry more. -- Nonny Have you ever wondered if the bills in your wallet were ever in a stripper's butt crack? Have a nice day .. |
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![]() On 30-Oct-2009, "Nonny" wrote: Xref: unlimited.usenetmonster.com alt.food.barbecue:147750 "Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message ... Nonny said: Nuke sweet potato about 8 minutes until barely fork tender. Peel and gently roll out between your hands to make solid Can you elaborate? I don't follow what you were doing there. I found it necessary to remove the skin from the sweet potatoes before running them through my "residential-grade" french fry cutter. They're too hard, without softening to go through without excessive and damaging force to the plastic cutter. If I had a good SS or cast french fry cutter, then I'd do them raw and include the skin, since I love the skin of a potato and feel it adds to both the flavor, texture and nutrition. By "nuke," of course I refer to the microwave oven, which I use to soften the sweet potatoes. After peeling off the skin, following a nuke, the sweet potato is pretty chewed up, so I round it back up before using the fry cutter. With the way this explanation is going, Marty, I might also see what it's like if I used a potato peeler and did the skin with it BEFORE softening the sweet potatoes. I just never tried it, so I have no opinion. . . yet. grin .. . . Try the potato peeler first Nonny, but then wrap your sweet tater with parchment paper (so it won't stick) and then with a kitchen towel before nuking. You get a lot more control over the nuking that way and more even heating through the potato. Don't use towels that you're proud of. Sometimes they get scorched. I did bakers that way (sans the paper) for years until I got this little toaster oven. Even now, I'll nuke a baker if I'm in a hurry. I like real oven roasted taters, but I'm not a potato snob. -- Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) |
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![]() "Brick" wrote in message ter.com... On 30-Oct-2009, "Nonny" wrote: Xref: unlimited.usenetmonster.com alt.food.barbecue:147750 "Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message ... Nonny said: Nuke sweet potato about 8 minutes until barely fork tender. Peel and gently roll out between your hands to make solid Can you elaborate? I don't follow what you were doing there. I found it necessary to remove the skin from the sweet potatoes before running them through my "residential-grade" french fry cutter. They're too hard, without softening to go through without excessive and damaging force to the plastic cutter. If I had a good SS or cast french fry cutter, then I'd do them raw and include the skin, since I love the skin of a potato and feel it adds to both the flavor, texture and nutrition. By "nuke," of course I refer to the microwave oven, which I use to soften the sweet potatoes. After peeling off the skin, following a nuke, the sweet potato is pretty chewed up, so I round it back up before using the fry cutter. With the way this explanation is going, Marty, I might also see what it's like if I used a potato peeler and did the skin with it BEFORE softening the sweet potatoes. I just never tried it, so I have no opinion. . . yet. grin . . . Try the potato peeler first Nonny, but then wrap your sweet tater with parchment paper (so it won't stick) and then with a kitchen towel before nuking. You get a lot more control over the nuking that way and more even heating through the potato. Don't use towels that you're proud of. Sometimes they get scorched. I did bakers that way (sans the paper) for years until I got this little toaster oven. Even now, I'll nuke a baker if I'm in a hurry. I like real oven roasted taters, but I'm not a potato snob. -- Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) Thanks for the good advice (as always), Brick. FWIW, I ordered the Weston FF cutter today, along with a 1/2, 3/8 and 1/4" cutters. It seems to be a well regarded one of cast iron that should hold up to the sweet potatoes, including skin, I hope. I'll keep the little POS plastic one for hard boiled eggs. grin -- Nonny Have you ever wondered if the bills in your wallet were ever in a stripper's butt crack? Have a nice day .. |
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![]() "Nonny" wrote in message Thanks for the good advice (as always), Brick. FWIW, I ordered the Weston FF cutter today, along with a 1/2, 3/8 and 1/4" cutters. It seems to be a well regarded one of cast iron that should hold up to the sweet potatoes, including skin, I hope. I'll keep the little POS plastic one for hard boiled eggs. grin That's a serious cutter. I've cut sweet potatoes by hand and cooked them raw as opposed to nuking, but I may try your method to make the cooking process a bit faster. We like them with red pepper, but I'm going to have to try your recipe. Sounds very good. |
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![]() On 31-Oct-2009, "Nonny" wrote: Xref: unlimited.usenetmonster.com alt.food.barbecue:147752 "Brick" wrote in message .. . . Thanks for the good advice (as always), Brick. FWIW, I ordered the Weston FF cutter today, along with a 1/2, 3/8 and 1/4" cutters. It seems to be a well regarded one of cast iron that should hold up to the sweet potatoes, including skin, I hope. I'll keep the little POS plastic one for hard boiled eggs. grin -- Nonny I've always wanted a decent french fry cutter, but never would part with the money. I have one of those POS plastic ones myself, but find myself usually cutting them by hand. I only do a couple of potatoes at a time, so it doesn't take long. -- Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) |
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![]() "Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message When you deep fry yams, do you double cook them like french fries, a partial cook till they are limp, pull and rest, then finish in hotter oil? Not necessary for premade frozen fries, of course, those have already been partially cooked, but I wondered if the technique works for sweet potato fries too. MartyB I've not dried the double method on them, but it should work. They don't get as crispy as regular potatoes. |
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![]() On 31-Oct-2009, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: "Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message When you deep fry yams, do you double cook them like french fries, a partial cook till they are limp, pull and rest, then finish in hotter oil? Not necessary for premade frozen fries, of course, those have already been partially cooked, but I wondered if the technique works for sweet potato fries too. MartyB Yes but! The double fry technique is used to get rid of the excess moisture in the potatoes that drags the oil temperature down. By prefrying you get rid of much of the water leaving a potato that is ready to be fried in hot oil. When re-introduced to the fryer the temperature doesn't drop radically, thus allowing your food to fry properly. Sweet potatoes don't contain nearly so much water to begin with, so the benefit is less apparent. I'll still double fry, but use shorter timing for sweet potatoes. You of course are encouraged to do as you please. (YMMV) -- Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) |
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![]() "Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message That's the difference because I seldom reheat foods on plates. Most of my plates are some kind of stoneware and they don't perform well in the microwave, getting way too hot and drawing off a lot of the energy intended for heating food. So if I'm using a nuke I'll reheat foods in individual containers, usually the same ones they were stored in, and then plate them up. This time of year I usually put the plates in the oven for a few minutes to warm up. Especially nice with delicate foods, like an egg. I probably take more time using the nuke than most people anyway, because I seldom use full power, and stop and start some foods to check them during the process, sometimes even with rests between bursts. I find the food heats more evenly that way with fewer of the hot spots that destroy flavor and texture. MartyB That's the way it should be done. Resting time in an important function when microwave cooking but most people just want high power and fast with no consideration of quality. |
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![]() On 1-Nov-2009, "Nunya Bidnits" wrote: Nonny said: "Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message ... Nonny said: "Brick" wrote in message .. . . That's the difference because I seldom reheat foods on plates. Most of my plates are some kind of stoneware and they don't perform well in the microwave, getting way too hot and drawing off a lot of the energy intended for heating food. So if I'm using a nuke I'll reheat foods in individual containers, usually the same ones they were stored in, and then plate them up. I probably take more time using the nuke than most people anyway, because I seldom use full power, and stop and start some foods to check them during the process, sometimes even with rests between bursts. I find the food heats more evenly that way with fewer of the hot spots that destroy flavor and texture. MartyB I have a love/hate relationship with my microwave. I cannot reheat in Gladware/Tupperware because they melt while I am not watching. I use glass, corelle and corning ware with and without covers depending on the situation. I also use low power and start/stop techniques. Oddly enough, the micowave makes great meatloaf if you use a glass bunt pan. -- Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) |
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now there's a recipe i would love to see, Lee
-- Have a great day "Brick" wrote in message ster.com... On 1-Nov-2009, "Nunya Bidnits" wrote: Nonny said: "Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message ... Nonny said: "Brick" wrote in message . . . That's the difference because I seldom reheat foods on plates. Most of my plates are some kind of stoneware and they don't perform well in the microwave, getting way too hot and drawing off a lot of the energy intended for heating food. So if I'm using a nuke I'll reheat foods in individual containers, usually the same ones they were stored in, and then plate them up. I probably take more time using the nuke than most people anyway, because I seldom use full power, and stop and start some foods to check them during the process, sometimes even with rests between bursts. I find the food heats more evenly that way with fewer of the hot spots that destroy flavor and texture. MartyB I have a love/hate relationship with my microwave. I cannot reheat in Gladware/Tupperware because they melt while I am not watching. I use glass, corelle and corning ware with and without covers depending on the situation. I also use low power and start/stop techniques. Oddly enough, the micowave makes great meatloaf if you use a glass bunt pan. -- Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) |
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i think the best deep fried sweet potato deep fried to date for me is the
tempura, sp sweet potatoes at our local chinese buffett, Lee -- Have a great day "Brick" wrote in message ster.com... On 31-Oct-2009, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote: "Nunya Bidnits" wrote in message When you deep fry yams, do you double cook them like french fries, a partial cook till they are limp, pull and rest, then finish in hotter oil? Not necessary for premade frozen fries, of course, those have already been partially cooked, but I wondered if the technique works for sweet potato fries too. MartyB Yes but! The double fry technique is used to get rid of the excess moisture in the potatoes that drags the oil temperature down. By prefrying you get rid of much of the water leaving a potato that is ready to be fried in hot oil. When re-introduced to the fryer the temperature doesn't drop radically, thus allowing your food to fry properly. Sweet potatoes don't contain nearly so much water to begin with, so the benefit is less apparent. I'll still double fry, but use shorter timing for sweet potatoes. You of course are encouraged to do as you please. (YMMV) -- Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) |
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![]() On 2-Nov-2009, "Stormmmee" wrote: now there's a recipe i would love to see, Lee -- Have a great day Gee, I've never considered a recipe for meatloaf. It just is. Gather together some; Ground beef Ground pork Onion (Can't cook anything without onion) Bell Pepper Egg(s) Bread crumbs Garlic (Can't cook anything without garlic either) Catsup S & P Mix two parts of ground beef with one part of ground pork. Add an egg for every 1.5 pounds of meat. Use a half cup each of chopped onion and pepper for each pound of meat. Mix in enough catsup to give some color to the mix. Finally mix in enough bread crumbs to firm up the mix. It's not critical, but you don't want to leave it too soupy. Season to taste. Herbs are beneficial if you have them. I like a few red pepper flakes in mine, but not enough to add heat. Bake uncovered on high until the loaf begins to pull away from the edges of the pan. If you use a regular oven, bake at 325F to 350F. You don't have to use a bundt pan to cook meatloaf, but it does help to distribute the heat more evenly for a decent texture all the way through. You can use a loaf pan if you like or even just mould the meat into a loaf and cook it that way. Anybody wants to help me out, feel free to jump in here. -- Brick (Youth is wasted on young people) |
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![]() "Brick" wrote in message ster.com... On 2-Nov-2009, "Stormmmee" wrote: now there's a recipe i would love to see, Lee -- Have a great day Gee, I've never considered a recipe for meatloaf. It just is. Gather together some; Ground beef Ground pork Onion (Can't cook anything without onion) Bell Pepper Egg(s) Bread crumbs Garlic (Can't cook anything without garlic either) Catsup S & P Mix two parts of ground beef with one part of ground pork. Add an egg for every 1.5 pounds of meat. Use a half cup each of chopped onion and pepper for each pound of meat. Mix in enough catsup to give some color to the mix. Finally mix in enough bread crumbs to firm up the mix. It's not critical, but you don't want to leave it too soupy. Season to taste. Herbs are beneficial if you have them. I like a few red pepper flakes in mine, but not enough to add heat. Bake uncovered on high until the loaf begins to pull away from the edges of the pan. If you use a regular oven, bake at 325F to 350F. You don't have to use a bundt pan to cook meatloaf, but it does help to distribute the heat more evenly for a decent texture all the way through. You can use a loaf pan if you like or even just mould the meat into a loaf and cook it that way. Anybody wants to help me out, feel free to jump in here. I'm not chiming in with anything from experience, but my Mom used to add in about 1/3 ground veal, saying that the veal would puff up and make the meatloaf lighter. I once heard that the guys who make hot dogs that are supposed to puff up and split the skin use veal for that reason as well. I'd be interested in anybody's thoughts on that. -- Nonny Have you ever wondered if the bills in your wallet were ever in a stripper's butt crack? Have a nice day .. |
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