Hi All,
I ask this question every year about this time because
I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
TIA,
Dick

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:18:01 -0500, "Dick R." > wrote:

>Hi All,
>I ask this question every year about this time because
>I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
>Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
>a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
>Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>
>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>TIA,
>Dick

So, you want to go more than $5 and less than $15?

Really, you'll be hard pressed to find a US Pinot Noir that offers
more up front varietal character than the Rex Goliath. But, some that
I've enjoyed in the past were Cambria Julia's Vineyard, Chalone, Le
Crema, Andrew Rich, Jezebel, Kelly, McKinley, O'Reilly and
occasionally a Schug comes in at the $15 point.

I've found some small producers in Oregon through through Avalon
(http://www.avalonwine.com/)--they feature Northwest wines and their
home page offers not only names and prices but a lot of news on what
the regional producers are offering.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
www.thunderchief.org

Ed Rasimus wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:18:01 -0500, "Dick R." > wrote:
>
>>Hi All,
>>I ask this question every year about this time because
>>I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
>>Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
>>a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
>>Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>>
>>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>>TIA,
>>Dick
>
> So, you want to go more than $5 and less than $15?
>
> Really, you'll be hard pressed to find a US Pinot Noir that offers
> more up front varietal character than the Rex Goliath. But, some that
> I've enjoyed in the past were Cambria Julia's Vineyard, Chalone, Le
> Crema, Andrew Rich, Jezebel, Kelly, McKinley, O'Reilly and
> occasionally a Schug comes in at the $15 point.
>
> I've found some small producers in Oregon through through Avalon
> (http://www.avalonwine.com/)--they feature Northwest wines and their
> home page offers not only names and prices but a lot of news on what
> the regional producers are offering.
>
>
> Ed Rasimus
> Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
> "When Thunder Rolled"
> www.thunderchief.org
Hi Ed,
Thanks for the suggestions. Two of the major wine/liquor outlets
in the Minneapolis/St. Paul, Minnesota area are having Fall wine sales.
I have both catalogs and I'll check for the wines you suggested.
If they don't carry any of your suggested wines ... I'll just have
to settle for a case of RG47lbPN. :-)

Thanks and Cheers,
Dick

I'm pretty much with Ed- the rex Goliath is about as good as it gets in
under-$10 US pinot that tastes like pinot. Unfortunately my local ran out.
Tried a Camelot that was a poor substitute.

With a little looking, in addition to those Ed listed, you might be able to
find the St Innocent Willamette bottling (non-vineyard specific, he doesn't
make every year) or the Saintsbury Garnet for under $15.
Dale

Dale Williams
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Ed Rasimus wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:18:01 -0500, "Dick R." > wrote:
<snip>
> So, you want to go more than $5 and less than $15?
>
> Really, you'll be hard pressed to find a US Pinot Noir that offers
> more up front varietal character than the Rex Goliath. But, some that
> I've enjoyed in the past were Cambria Julia's Vineyard, Chalone, Le
> Crema, Andrew Rich, Jezebel, Kelly, McKinley, O'Reilly and
> occasionally a Schug comes in at the $15 point.
>
> I've found some small producers in Oregon through through Avalon
> (http://www.avalonwine.com/)--they feature Northwest wines and their
> home page offers not only names and prices but a lot of news on what
> the regional producers are offering.

Dale Williams wrote:
> I'm pretty much with Ed- the rex Goliath is about as good as it gets in
> under-$10 US pinot that tastes like pinot. Unfortunately my local ran out.
> Tried a Camelot that was a poor substitute.

> With a little looking, in addition to those Ed listed, you might be able to
> find the St Innocent Willamette bottling (non-vineyard specific, he doesn't
> make every year) or the Saintsbury Garnet for under $15.
> Dale

Hi Ed and Dale,
Bingo! Found the Le Crema and Saintsbury Garnet on sale for $13.99. I'll
purchase some of each, add a bottle of Argyle 1998 PN, and some RG47lbPN.
Should make for an interesting tasting.

Thanks for your help,
Dick

Dick R. wrote:

> Hi All,
> I ask this question every year about this time because
> I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
> Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
> a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
> Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>
> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> TIA,
> Dick

What's Rex Hill's second label?

....quick Google search...

Kings Ridge. I think it comes in at around $15.

Dick R. wrote:

> Hi All,
> I ask this question every year about this time because
> I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
> Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
> a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
> Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>
> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> TIA,
> Dick

What's Rex Hill's second label?

....quick Google search...

Kings Ridge. I think it comes in at around $15.

Another sub $10.00 offering is Haley's Mill Pinot Noir. I think is runs
about $2.00 a bottle more than Rex, but it is well worth it. And Black Oak,
http://www.blackoakwines.com/, at around $7.99. Not bad, but I like Haley's
and Rex better.

For a sub $15.00, I liked Mark West Pinot Noir at about 11.99 a bottle.

"Larry Coon" > wrote in message
...
> Dick R. wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I ask this question every year about this time because
> > I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
> > Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
> > a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
> > Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
> >
> > Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> > TIA,
> > Dick
>
> What's Rex Hill's second label?
>
> ...quick Google search...
>
> Kings Ridge. I think it comes in at around $15.

Hi Larry,
Couldn't find Rex Hill or Kings Ridge in either of my sale
catalogs, but I'll make a note and look for it.

Thanks,
Dick

Larry Coon wrote:
> Dick R. wrote:
>
>
>>Hi All,
>>I ask this question every year about this time because
>>I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
>>Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
>>a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
>>Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>>
>>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>>TIA,
>>Dick
>
>
> What's Rex Hill's second label?
>
> ...quick Google search...
>
> Kings Ridge. I think it comes in at around $15.

Hi "asdf"
I found the Mark West PN in one of the sale catalogs and I'll give it
a try.

Thanks,
Dick

asdf wrote:
<snip>
> For a sub $15.00, I liked Mark West Pinot Noir at about 11.99 a bottle.

No Dick, NO!!!

Not the RG47lbPN. After being honest and claiming the 5 bottles I
brought back(still have 3or 4) in duty free(mental note for me: don't
be a dumbass like that next time- hide it in my wife's bag!!!!) I
still break out in night sweats. ;-}

All the best,

Larry
Southern Ontario

Larry wrote:
> No Dick, NO!!!
>
> Not the RG47lbPN. After being honest and claiming the 5 bottles I
> brought back(still have 3or 4) in duty free(mental note for me: don't
> be a dumbass like that next time- hide it in my wife's bag!!!!) I
> still break out in night sweats. ;-}
>
Hey Larry,
Always nice to hear from you.
"Night sweats", me too, age thing maybe. But I won't give up my
RG47lbPN until "they pry my cold, dead fingers" off the bottle! :-)
BTW: How did you like it? Notes are always good, otherwise a "yup"
or "nope" would work.

Cheers,
Dick

"Dick R." > wrote in message >...
> Hi All,
> I ask this question every year about this time because
> I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
> Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
> a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
> Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>
> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> TIA,
> Dick

Pinot Noir with turkey? Why not a delicious Grignolino? or a Taurasi?
or a Montefalco? or a Chianti Rufina? or a Dolcetto?

In article >, says...
>
>Hi All,
>I ask this question every year about this time because
>I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
>Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
>a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
>Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>
>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>TIA,
>Dick

Not sure of the exact price points, but Acacia Carneros is a very good,
inexpensive CA PN fruit-bomb. I've done several OR and WA PN's with different
turkey recipies, and all were good, but the Central Coast CA PN's seem to do
very nicely with the whole dinner. I'm also a big fan of Zins with
Thanksgiving meals - even did a Zin marinated turkey once and it was
spectacular. The $US15 gives you quite a few Zins to choose from.

Saw in later part of thread, that you'd found some good PN's on sale locally.
As a counter-point, you might want to pick up a bottle of the Saintsbury PN to
taste along side their Garnet. It's about $28-30/btl, but the guests might
like the comparison with the other PN's.

I also like Gw's and Rieslings for the whites when the menu is traditional.

Hunt

Uranium Committee wrote:
> "Dick R." > wrote in message >...
>
>>Hi All,
>>I ask this question every year about this time because
>>I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
>>Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
>>a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
>>Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>>
>>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>>TIA,
>>Dick
>
>
> Pinot Noir with turkey? Why not a delicious Grignolino? or a Taurasi?
> or a Montefalco? or a Chianti Rufina? or a Dolcetto?

Or maybe a nice fresh Beaujolais Nouveau from France.

;-)

Dana Myers > wrote in message om>...
> Uranium Committee wrote:
> > "Dick R." > wrote in message >...
> >
> >>Hi All,
> >>I ask this question every year about this time because
> >>I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
> >>Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
> >>a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
> >>Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
> >>
> >>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> >>TIA,
> >>Dick
> >
> >
> > Pinot Noir with turkey? Why not a delicious Grignolino? or a Taurasi?
> > or a Montefalco? or a Chianti Rufina? or a Dolcetto?
>
> Or maybe a nice fresh Beaujolais Nouveau from France.

Yes even that, but Pinot Noir? Never!

>
> ;-)

Uranium Committee wrote:
> Dana Myers > wrote in message om>...
>
>>Uranium Committee wrote:
>>
>>>"Dick R." > wrote in message >...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi All,
>>>>I ask this question every year about this time because
>>>>I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
>>>>Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
>>>>a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
>>>>Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>>>>
>>>>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>TIA,
>>>>Dick
>>>
>>>
>>>Pinot Noir with turkey? Why not a delicious Grignolino? or a Taurasi?
>>>or a Montefalco? or a Chianti Rufina? or a Dolcetto?
>>
>>Or maybe a nice fresh Beaujolais Nouveau from France.
>
>
> Yes even that, but Pinot Noir? Never!

Well, Beringer makes a Nouveau-style wine from, among
other things, Pinot Noir fruit...

A fruit-forward New World Pinot Noir is actually
a pretty good Thanksgiving wine, and I tend to think
"trying too hard" and getting something high-end
or a Burgundy probably wouldn't work as well as
a sassy young PN.

Dana

As I posted here a couple months back, I was rather impressed by the $11
Mark West 'Edna Valley' 2002. I ended up buying a case after trying a
bottle. Definately not a watered down unexciting pinot.

Dana Myers > wrote in message om>...
> Uranium Committee wrote:
> > Dana Myers > wrote in message om>...
> >
> >>Uranium Committee wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Dick R." > wrote in message >...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi All,
> >>>>I ask this question every year about this time because
> >>>>I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
> >>>>Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
> >>>>a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
> >>>>Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
> >>>>
> >>>>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> >>>>TIA,
> >>>>Dick
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Pinot Noir with turkey? Why not a delicious Grignolino? or a Taurasi?
> >>>or a Montefalco? or a Chianti Rufina? or a Dolcetto?
> >>
> >>Or maybe a nice fresh Beaujolais Nouveau from France.
> >
> >
> > Yes even that, but Pinot Noir? Never!
>
> Well, Beringer makes a Nouveau-style wine from, among
> other things, Pinot Noir fruit...
>
> A fruit-forward New World Pinot Noir is actually
> a pretty good Thanksgiving wine, and I tend to think
> "trying too hard" and getting something high-end
> or a Burgundy probably wouldn't work as well as
> a sassy young PN.
>
> Dana



Something lighter, e.g., Dolcetto, is far preferable.

"Dick R." > wrote in message >...
> Hi All,
> I ask this question every year about this time because
> I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
> Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
> a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
> Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>
> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
> TIA,
> Dick

I had a bottle of Hahn recently which I thought was quite good for the
price: $11.99!
best,
e.
__________
www.winemonger.com

>Always nice to hear from you.
>"Night sweats", me too, age thing maybe. But I won't give up my
>RG47lbPN until "they pry my cold, dead fingers" off the bottle! :-)
>BTW: How did you like it? Notes are always good, otherwise a "yup"
>or "nope" would work.

YUP! I'm not too good on descriptors yet. Need to hang around this
group much longer. For what i paid NOPE but for what you paid YUP!

I don't often get a Pinot to try (just a bit more than what i like to
spend), The big Rooster is good.(wow..what notes hey!? ;-}

I'll be looking out for more of those value wines some of the group
come across from time to time.

All the best,

Larry
Southern Ontario

>Always nice to hear from you.
>"Night sweats", me too, age thing maybe. But I won't give up my
>RG47lbPN until "they pry my cold, dead fingers" off the bottle! :-)
>BTW: How did you like it? Notes are always good, otherwise a "yup"
>or "nope" would work.

YUP! I'm not too good on descriptors yet. Need to hang around this
group much longer. For what i paid NOPE but for what you paid YUP!

I don't often get a Pinot to try (just a bit more than what i like to
spend), The big Rooster is good.(wow..what notes hey!? ;-}

I'll be looking out for more of those value wines some of the group
come across from time to time.

All the best,

Larry
Southern Ontario

Greetings Larry;

Found any decent Ontario PN yet? I keep looking but not having any luck and
certainly not at under $15US. Now, how much is that in C$ eh??? ;>))
--
Regards
Chuck
So much wine; So little time!

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"Larry" > wrote in message
...
>
> >Always nice to hear from you.
> >"Night sweats", me too, age thing maybe. But I won't give up my
> >RG47lbPN until "they pry my cold, dead fingers" off the bottle! :-)
> >BTW: How did you like it? Notes are always good, otherwise a "yup"
> >or "nope" would work.
>
> YUP! I'm not too good on descriptors yet. Need to hang around this
> group much longer. For what i paid NOPE but for what you paid YUP!
>
> I don't often get a Pinot to try (just a bit more than what i like to
> spend), The big Rooster is good.(wow..what notes hey!? ;-}
>
> I'll be looking out for more of those value wines some of the group
> come across from time to time.
>
> All the best,
>
> Larry
> Southern Ontario

Greetings Larry;

Found any decent Ontario PN yet? I keep looking but not having any luck and
certainly not at under $15US. Now, how much is that in C$ eh??? ;>))
--
Regards
Chuck
So much wine; So little time!

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"Larry" > wrote in message
...
>
> >Always nice to hear from you.
> >"Night sweats", me too, age thing maybe. But I won't give up my
> >RG47lbPN until "they pry my cold, dead fingers" off the bottle! :-)
> >BTW: How did you like it? Notes are always good, otherwise a "yup"
> >or "nope" would work.
>
> YUP! I'm not too good on descriptors yet. Need to hang around this
> group much longer. For what i paid NOPE but for what you paid YUP!
>
> I don't often get a Pinot to try (just a bit more than what i like to
> spend), The big Rooster is good.(wow..what notes hey!? ;-}
>
> I'll be looking out for more of those value wines some of the group
> come across from time to time.
>
> All the best,
>
> Larry
> Southern Ontario

In article >,
says...
>
>"Dick R." > wrote in message >
....
>> Hi All,
>> I ask this question every year about this time because
>> I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
>> Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
>> a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
>> Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>>
>> Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>> TIA,
>> Dick
>
>I had a bottle of Hahn recently which I thought was quite good for the
>price: $11.99!
>best,
>e.
>__________
>www.winemonger.com

Isn't Hahn the parent co of Rex Goliath?

Hunt

In article >, says...
>
>Hi All,
>I ask this question every year about this time because
>I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
>Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
>a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
>Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>
>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>TIA,
>Dick
>

Dick,

Just above your price point, you might want to look into Acacia Central Coast
PN. It is a CA fruit-bomb, but a polished one. Costco usually has it for US$
18/btl. There is also a SV Beckstoffer PN, as well, but it goes for about US$
50. I can't say that it's worth the difference, but I did put in 6 btls. I
usually lay the Acacia down for about 1 yr, though it is very nice upon
release.

Hunt

(Hunt) wrote in message >...

> Isn't Hahn the parent co of Rex Goliath?
>
> Hunt

Here's a good article describing the whole relationship:
http://www.coastweekly.com/articles/8457

e.
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"Dana Myers" > wrote in message
m...
> Uranium Committee wrote:
>> Dana Myers > wrote in message
>> om>...
>>
>>>Uranium Committee wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Dick R." > wrote in message
>...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi All,
>>>>>I ask this question every year about this time because
>>>>>I like to serve Pinot Noir with the traditional (USA)
>>>>>Thanksgiving turkey meal. If it was just me, I'd just pop
>>>>>a cork on a Rex Goliath 47lb. Rooster and call it good.
>>>>>Hovever, I would like to serve something better to my guests.
>>>>>
>>>>>Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>TIA,
>>>>>Dick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Pinot Noir with turkey? Why not a delicious Grignolino? or a Taurasi?
>>>>or a Montefalco? or a Chianti Rufina? or a Dolcetto?
>>>
>>>Or maybe a nice fresh Beaujolais Nouveau from France.
>>
>>
>> Yes even that, but Pinot Noir? Never!
>
> Well, Beringer makes a Nouveau-style wine from, among
> other things, Pinot Noir fruit...
>
> A fruit-forward New World Pinot Noir is actually
> a pretty good Thanksgiving wine, and I tend to think
> "trying too hard" and getting something high-end
> or a Burgundy probably wouldn't work as well as
> a sassy young PN.
>
> Dana

I agree; we had a Geyser Peak 2003 sauv. blanc, a _?_ Guigal Condrieu
(forgot the year), and Cristom's 2001 Marjorie Vineyard pinot noir. My
favorite for a long time, and 7 out of 8 guests agreed, that the Cristom
paired best with the traditional roasted turkey, gravy, mashed potatoes
w/sour cream/green onion, green bean casserole, and yams. The Geyser held up
well, and the viognier tasted flat after a bite of the turkey and gravy.

As for cheap pinots, Pepperwood is a good, as is Sebastiani.