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A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
kitchen meat grinders.

Any new owners ?
Grinding anything besides meat ?
Primarily sausages ?

I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
that I found at a rummage sale.

First observation; "Where will I store the damn thing?"

My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....



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On 9/11/2010 10:44 PM, RJ wrote:

A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
kitchen meat grinders.

Any new owners ?
Grinding anything besides meat ?
Primarily sausages ?

I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
that I found at a rummage sale.

First observation; "Where will I store the damn thing?"

My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....



I ground fish in mine to make gefilte fish for the new year holidy.

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On Sep 11, 11:44*pm, "RJ" wrote:
A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
* kitchen meat grinders.

Any new owners ? *
Grinding anything besides meat ?
Primarily sausages ?

I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
that I found at a rummage sale.

First observation; *"Where will I store the damn thing?"

My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....


Always wondered if the grinder attachment for the Kitchenaid was as
good - less space needed for storage.

Can some do grains also, maybe?

Kris
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On 9/12/2010 12:33 PM, Kris wrote:
On Sep 11, 11:44 pm, wrote:
A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
kitchen meat grinders.

Any new owners ?
Grinding anything besides meat ?
Primarily sausages ?

I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
that I found at a rummage sale.

First observation; "Where will I store the damn thing?"

My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....


Always wondered if the grinder attachment for the Kitchenaid was as
good - less space needed for storage.

Can some do grains also, maybe?

Kris


That's what I am using. I find it quite adequate for our needs. I don't
think it would hold up to grinding 50 pounds of meat at one time, but
for us (2 people) it works fine.

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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:33:14 -0700 (PDT), Kris
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Always wondered if the grinder attachment for the Kitchenaid was as
good - less space needed for storage.


I have one, and it does fine for things like hamburger and meat loaf.

The problem for me was that I wanted a much coarser grind for chili,
and the Kitchen Aid attachment doesn't take standard sized plates and
blades.

So I bought a Maverick grinder that takes standard #8 plates from
Pleasant Hill Grain
(http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/mav...ers_food.aspx).

I've also found a blade with only two blade arms; along with a plate
with half-inch holes, it cranks out a nice coarse grind, 12 pounds at
a time, for my home poker game.

I highly recommend the Maverick. IMO, it's the best you can get under
$150.

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On Sep 12, 4:46*pm, Sqwertz wrote:
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:33:14 -0700 (PDT), Kris wrote:
On Sep 11, 11:44*pm, "RJ" wrote:
A few months ago there was a flurry of interest re;
* kitchen meat grinders.


Any new owners ? *
Grinding anything besides meat ?
Primarily sausages ?


I just splurged four bucks on a RIVAL meat grinder
that I found at a rummage sale.


First observation; *"Where will I store the damn thing?"


My first experiment will be "once ground chuck" for chili.....


Always wondered if the grinder attachment for the Kitchenaid was as
good - less space needed for storage.


Yes. *It is just fine for grinding 2-10 lbs of meat at a time. *It's
the only thing I use my Kitchenaid for.

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chuckle Nothing else? My kids would leave me if I didn't use mine
for more, like cookie dough, pumpkin bread, etc.

Good to know it's a good attachment though, as I've always flirted
with getting one. But then I'd have to have the sausage stuffing one
too.

Kris
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"Brookilyn1" wrote in message
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http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/627


"This 3-hole plate is used to make large chunks of meat such as stew meat or
chum"

Um.. in UK Chum is dog food)

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On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 08:49:40 -0700, Brookilyn1 wrote:

.... Larger grinder plates are
readily available with kidney shaped openings that are specifically
configured for extra coarse grind.
http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/627


Well, readily if you've got a commercial #22 grinder (3-1/4 inch
throat). 8

The problem in drilling out a KA plate is that it's so small that the
holes would overlap. This isn't a proble for grinding the meat, but it
makes the actual drilling more difficult.

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On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 00:02:21 -0400, "Lionel Hutz, Esq."
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"Sqwertz" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 16:56:07 -0400, wrote:

The problem for me was that I wanted a much coarser grind for chili,
and the Kitchen Aid attachment doesn't take standard sized plates and
blades.


I find myself using the large holed plate for everything. One grind
only. I do wish there was one for a coarser grind. It really does
limit it's use and I';m surprised they don't offer one.


-sw


Could you get one fabricated at a machine shop?


A single custom made grinder plate would cost more to fabricate from
scratch than a dozen KA stand mixers. It would be far less costly to
have the shop elongate the holes on an existing stainless steel plate
but would still cost a couple-three hours shop time...would be cheaper
to buy a real grinder. There is absolutely no reason that grinder
plate holes need to be round... were someone handy with a jeweler's
coping saw and jeweler's files it's a rather simple DIY project... the
grade of stainless steel used for grinder plates is easily machinable,
not so for hardened carbon steel plates. Larger grinder plates are
readily available with kidney shaped openings that are specifically
configured for extra coarse grind.
http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/627





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On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 10:57:50 -0700, Brooklyn1 wrote:

The problem in drilling out a KA plate is that it's so small that the
holes would overlap. This isn't a proble for grinding the meat, but it
makes the actual drilling more difficult.


Obviously you're not mechanically inclined, Larrrrwy.


Obviously, Shellllwy.

But I do have a drill press in my garage, and forty years of wrenching
(and driving) my own open-wheel race cars. Whereas you remain a dumb
and offensive pile of shit. {plonk}

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.... no machine
shop is going to tie up a $1,000,000.00+ CNC machine to produce a part
that ain't hardly worth $2.


Oh Sheldumb please join the rest of us in the 21st century. A CNC mill for
that type of job can be had for well under 10K you pulled that million
dollar price tag out of your ass like most of your info. Besides, an
abrasive water cutting machine would be more appropriate for such a job than
a CNC mill anyway and could cut a plate in about three minutes. Machine time
typically runs around $200 an hour for either machine.



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"George Shirley" wrote in message
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On 9/13/2010 9:05 AM, Ophelia wrote:


"Brookilyn1" wrote in message
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http://www.alliedkenco.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/627


"This 3-hole plate is used to make large chunks of meat such as stew
meat or chum"

Um.. in UK Chum is dog food)

On the US Gulf coast chum is fish bait, grind up fish, throw the mess in
the water to "chum" up some good fish.


Thanks, George, someone did post that. Actually I wrote it wrong.. Chum is
a BRAND of dog food here. Sorry all.

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"Rumford *******" wrote:
"Brooklyn1" wrote:

... no machine
shop is going to tie up a $1,000,000.00+ CNC machine to produce a part
that ain't hardly worth $2.


Oh Sheldumb please join the rest of us in the 21st century. A CNC mill for
that type of job can be had for well under 10K you pulled that million
dollar price tag out of your ass like most of your info. Besides, an
abrasive water cutting machine would be more appropriate for such a job than
a CNC mill anyway and could cut a plate in about three minutes. Machine time
typically runs around $200 an hour for either machine.


Shit for brains Rummy proves my point... no machine shop is going to
agree to fabricate ONE grinding plate on any machine in ONE hour...
can buy a brand new REAL grinder for $200 and have change left over
for meat. Unless one can locate a larger holed KA plate (ask at
Allied Kenco) the most intelligent method is to modify an existing
plate... there is absolutely no reason to fabricate an entire plate
from scratch when stock KA plates are readily available... the Rummy
******* obviously has the intelligence of an amoeba.

It's really quite simple to enlarge the holes on a grinding plate
(especially one of stainless steel/hardened carbon steel not so easy),
and by many methods easily achieved at home with very basic homeowner
tools... all one needs is a cheapo variable speed hand drill and a set
of HS twist drills... stack three stock plates and screw down to a
hunk of lumber and drill through all three plates moving the holding
screws as needed. If one wants a better ID finish send a fluted
reamer through. The top plate will act as a drill guide bushing, the
bottom plate will be a support and minimize exit burrs. In the end
all three plates will be usable... any holes that break through can
easily be hand filed to an elongated/kidney shape. Of course if one
has a friend who owns or works in a machine shop then the subject is
moot, should cost nothing, but enlarging holes is a very easy job most
anyone can do at home.
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"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
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Shit for brains Rummy proves my point... no machine shop is going to
agree to fabricate ONE grinding plate on any machine in ONE hour...


Small shops will do just about anything you want and like I said a small
item like a grinding plate will only take several minutes on a water
abrasion cutter. Or a plasma cutter. Or even a CNC mill. Cutting steel plate
is much simpler nowadays than in your time.



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