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My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but it's
super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many variations. She
said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.

Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if that
helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't a clue
what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf. But she
can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

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On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 7:23:31 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
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> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but it's
> super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many variations. She
> said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.
>
> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if that
> helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't a clue
> what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf. But she
> can't even describe the shape of the loaf.
>

With just a little bit of searching I found several recipes, all VERY, VERY
similar with nary an orange peel or zest in the bread. You, using your pea brain, can find recipes but will it be the same as 74 year woman ate as child?? No one has a clue as we were not sitting at the table munching with her.

But I'm positive whatever recipe you will be given will be rejected hands
down even though you are utterly clueless.

You're welcome.

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>On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 7:23:31 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
>> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but it's
>> super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many variations. She
>> said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.
>>
>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if that
>> helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't a clue
>> what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf. But she
>> can't even describe the shape of the loaf.
>>

>With just a little bit of searching I found several recipes, all VERY, VERY
>similar with nary an orange peel or zest in the bread. You, using your pea brain, can find recipes but will it be the same as 74 year woman ate as child?? No one has a clue as we were not sitting at the table munching with her.
>
>But I'm positive whatever recipe you will be given will be rejected hands
>down even though you are utterly clueless.


Considering all this: why did you search?
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On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but
> it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many
> variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or
> orange peel in it.
>
> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if
> that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't
> a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf.
> But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.


There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any that
require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just dreamed up?

Jill
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> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:48:07 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >But I'm positive whatever recipe you will be given will be rejected hands
> >down even though you are utterly clueless.

>
> Considering all this: why did you search?
>

To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes available. Yes, to
both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked or did she just post a question
for attention.



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>On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
>> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but
>> it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many
>> variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or
>> orange peel in it.
>>
>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if
>> that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't
>> a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf.
>> But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

>
>There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any that
>require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just dreamed up?
>
>Jill


It is limpa bread, which is a Swedish rye.

I have a old recipe buried somewhere, but this is similar and will
give an idea of what's in it.

https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/...h-limpa-bread/

Ingredients
1/2 cup packed light brown sugar
1/4 cup dark molasses
1/4 cup butter, cubed
2 tablespoons grated orange zest
1-1/2 teaspoons salt
1 teaspoon aniseed, lightly crushed
1 cup boiling water
1 cup cold water
2 packages (1/4 ounce each) active dry yeast
1/2 cup warm water (110° to 115°)
4-1/2 cups all-purpose flour
3 to 4 cups rye flour
2 tablespoons cornmeal
2 tablespoons butter, melted

Directions
1. In a large bowl, combine brown sugar, molasses, butter, orange
zest, salt, aniseed and boiling water; stir until brown sugar is
dissolved and butter is melted. Stir in cold water; let stand until
mixture cools to 110° to 115°.

2. Meanwhile, in a large bowl, dissolve yeast in warm water. Stir in
molasses mixture; mix well. Add

3. all-purpose flour and 1 cup rye flour. Beat on medium speed 3
minutes. Stir in enough remaining rye flour to form a stiff dough.

4. Turn onto a floured surface; knead until smooth and elastic, about
6-8 minutes. Place in a greased bowl, turning once to grease the top.
Cover and let rise in a warm place until doubled, about 1 hour.

5. Punch dough down. Turn onto a lightly floured surface; divide in
half. Shape into two oval loaves. Grease two baking sheets and
sprinkle lightly with cornmeal. Place loaves on prepared pans. Cover
and let rise until doubled, about 30 minutes.

6. Preheat oven to 350° . With a sharp knife, make four shallow
slashes across top of each loaf. Bake 30-35 minutes or until golden
brown. Remove to wire racks; brush with butter.
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>On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
>> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but
>> it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many
>> variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or
>> orange peel in it.
>>
>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if
>> that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't
>> a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf.
>> But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

>
>There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any that
>require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just dreamed up?
>
>Jill


Swedish rye bread is similar to jewish rye bread only it's baked in
long square tins... rather than baked as free form loaves. Swedish
breads when sliced are small squarish slices that work well with
smorgesbord food.
Typically Jewish catered affairs serve Swedish style breads, rye and
pumpernickle, in small thin square slices... more like to fress hors
duvers, a lot of cured fish like chopped herring.
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 22:07:45 -0500, Boron Elgar
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>On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 21:03:49 -0500, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
>>> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but
>>> it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many
>>> variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or
>>> orange peel in it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if
>>> that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't
>>> a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf.
>>> But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

>>
>>There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any that
>>require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just dreamed up?
>>
>>Jill

>
>It is limpa bread, which is a Swedish rye.


Well, there ya go!
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:29:16 -0800 (PST), "
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>On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 8:00:31 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:48:07 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >But I'm positive whatever recipe you will be given will be rejected hands
>> >down even though you are utterly clueless.

>>
>> Considering all this: why did you search?
>>

>To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes available. Yes, to
>both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked or did she just post a question
>for attention.


One thing is for sure, Jo-Jo: you only replied for attention.
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On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 10:56:02 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:29:16 -0800 (PST), "
> > wrote:
>
> >> Considering all this: why did you search?
> >>

> >To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes available. Yes, to
> >both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked or did she just post a question
> >for attention.

>
> One thing is for sure, Jo-Jo: you only replied for attention.
>

Yes, attention to the whiner that can't or won't search then will shoot down
every suggestion or offer of help.



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> On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 7:23:31 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
>> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but
>> it's
>> super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many variations.
>> She
>> said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.
>>
>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if
>> that
>> helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't a
>> clue
>> what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf. But she
>> can't even describe the shape of the loaf.
>>

> With just a little bit of searching I found several recipes, all VERY,
> VERY
> similar with nary an orange peel or zest in the bread. You, using your
> pea brain, can find recipes but will it be the same as 74 year woman ate
> as child?? No one has a clue as we were not sitting at the table munching
> with her.
>
> But I'm positive whatever recipe you will be given will be rejected hands
> down even though you are utterly clueless.
>
> You're welcome.


She said the bread was widely available in grocery stores. Now perhaps it
was a local thing but there are people here older than me and I was hoping
someone might remember what it was.

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> On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 8:00:31 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:48:07 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >But I'm positive whatever recipe you will be given will be rejected
>> >hands
>> >down even though you are utterly clueless.

>>
>> Considering all this: why did you search?
>>

> To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes available. Yes,
> to
> both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked or did she just post a question
> for attention.


Reading for comprehension is not your thing; is it? I said I knew there were
recipes. Many recipes but since I never saw the bread she referred to I was
hoping someone here might remember purchasing such a bread and could give me
more specifics.

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> On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
>> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but
>> it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many
>> variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or
>> orange peel in it.
>>
>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if
>> that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't
>> a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf.
>> But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

>
> There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any that
> require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just dreamed up?


I guess you didn't look too far.

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/69...h-limpu-bread/

Here's another:

https://www.thespruceeats.com/swedis...-bread-2952664

There are many others.

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> wrote:
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>>On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
>>> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but
>>> it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many
>>> variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or
>>> orange peel in it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if
>>> that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't
>>> a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf.
>>> But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

>>
>>There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any that
>>require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just dreamed up?
>>
>>Jill

>
> Swedish rye bread is similar to jewish rye bread only it's baked in
> long square tins... rather than baked as free form loaves. Swedish
> breads when sliced are small squarish slices that work well with
> smorgesbord food.
> Typically Jewish catered affairs serve Swedish style breads, rye and
> pumpernickle, in small thin square slices... more like to fress hors
> duvers, a lot of cured fish like chopped herring.


Thanks! I'll tell her this.

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>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:29:16 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 8:00:31 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:48:07 -0800 (PST),
>>>> " > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >But I'm positive whatever recipe you will be given will be rejected
>>>> >hands down even though you are utterly clueless.
>>>>
>>>> Considering all this: why did you search?
>>>>
>>>To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes available.
>>>Yes, to both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked or did she just
>>>post a question for attention.

>>
>> One thing is for sure, Jo-Jo: you only replied for attention.

>
>Another thing is for sure, Bruce: you gave her attention.


That's me.


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Julie Bove wrote:

> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in
> any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it
> online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are
> so many variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any
> orange or orange peel in it.
>
> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74,
> if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so
> hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but
> a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.


Julie, no one can tell for sure what recipe you may want.

If she is 74, it was apt to not be shaped to a loaf pan so more of a
freeform. Caraway would be more apt to be the seasoning but there
might be Aniseseed.

1 1/3C water plus 1TB
3 TB butter
2 2/3 C bread flour (All purpose not recommended)
1 1/3 C rye flour
3 TB gluten flour additive
3 TB brown sugar
2 ts to 1 TB Caraway seeds
1 ts salt
1 1/2 ts active dry yeast

If Caraway feels wrong, replace with Aniseseed as both are traditional.
Many use 1 TB each. German ones use stone ground mustard.

Using a bread machine, use dough mode then let rise in the oven with
the light on for 1-1.5 hours then bake at 375 for about 20 minutes
(then check).


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Julie Bove wrote:

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> > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 at 8:00:31 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 17:48:07 -0800 (PST),
> > > "
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > But I'm positive whatever recipe you will be given will be
> > > > rejected >hands down even though you are utterly clueless.
> > >
> > > Considering all this: why did you search?
> > >

> > To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes available.
> > Yes, to both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked or did she just
> > post a question for attention.

>
> Reading for comprehension is not your thing; is it? I said I knew
> there were recipes. Many recipes but since I never saw the bread she
> referred to I was hoping someone here might remember purchasing such
> a bread and could give me more specifics.


No one can guess Julie, we don't know what taste she is looking for
that she at 74, had in her past.

I sent you a decent one that I have made many a time. I have one close
to it going right now.
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> On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in
> > any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it
> > online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there
> > are so many variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have
> > any orange or orange peel in it.
> >
> > Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74,
> > if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread
> > so hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp
> > bread but a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of the
> > loaf.

>
> There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any
> that require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just
> dreamed up?
>
> Jill


Actually, I saw a few with grated orange peels. I do not know if they
are authentic. I also saw several that used a 2 day rye starter.

One thing I wonder is if a UK person might have made something like it
with Treckle/ golden syrup? That could be an interesting difference!
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On 2018-11-25 10:31 AM, Pamela wrote:
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>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:29:16 -0800 (PST), "
>> > wrote:

>
>>> To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes available.
>>> Yes, to both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked or did she just
>>> post a question for attention.

>>
>> One thing is for sure, Jo-Jo: you only replied for attention.

>
> Another thing is for sure, Bruce: you gave her attention.
>



Bruce is as desperate for attention as Julie is.

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>On 2018-11-25 10:31 AM, Pamela wrote:
>> On 04:55 25 Nov 2018, Bruce > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:29:16 -0800 (PST), "
>>> > wrote:

>>
>>>> To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes available.
>>>> Yes, to both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked or did she just
>>>> post a question for attention.
>>>
>>> One thing is for sure, Jo-Jo: you only replied for attention.

>>
>> Another thing is for sure, Bruce: you gave her attention.
>>

>
>
>Bruce is as desperate for attention as Julie is.


You don't know that. You have me killfiled.


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>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in
>> any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it
>> online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are
>> so many variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any
>> orange or orange peel in it.
>>
>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74,
>> if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so
>> hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but
>> a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

>
> Julie, no one can tell for sure what recipe you may want.




Personally, I think she's talking about those smaller loaves that are sold
mainly during the holidays where I am, different kinds from pumpernickel to
swedish rye. Usually in the deli.

Cheri

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> On 2018-11-25 10:31 AM, Pamela wrote:
> >On 04:55 25 Nov 2018, Bruce > wrote in
> > :
> >
> > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:29:16 -0800 (PST),
> > > "
> > wrote:

> >
> > > > To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes
> > > > available. Yes, to both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked
> > > > or did she just post a question for attention.
> > >
> > > One thing is for sure, Jo-Jo: you only replied for attention.

> >
> > Another thing is for sure, Bruce: you gave her attention.
> >

>
>
> Bruce is as desperate for attention as Julie is.


Yup, faking people too it seems (not a new thing). He's even editing
posts now so it looks like on quote folks said things they didn't.

Basically he's destroyed any chance to be taken seriously here. Julie
however gets real replies.
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>On 2018-11-25 10:31 AM, Pamela wrote:
>> On 04:55 25 Nov 2018, Bruce > wrote in
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>>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:29:16 -0800 (PST), "
>>> > wrote:

>>
>>>> To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes available.
>>>> Yes, to both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked or did she just
>>>> post a question for attention.
>>>
>>> One thing is for sure, Jo-Jo: you only replied for attention.

>>
>> Another thing is for sure, Bruce: you gave her attention.
>>

>
>
>Bruce is as desperate for attention as Julie is.


You don't know that. You have me killfiled.

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On 11/24/2018 10:07 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
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> wrote:
>
>> On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
>>> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but
>>> it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many
>>> variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or
>>> orange peel in it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if
>>> that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't
>>> a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf.
>>> But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

>>
>> There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any that
>> require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just dreamed up?
>>
>> Jill

>
> It is limpa bread, which is a Swedish rye.
>
> I have a old recipe buried somewhere, but this is similar and will
> give an idea of what's in it.
>
> https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/...h-limpa-bread/
>
> Ingredients
> 1/2 cup packed light brown sugar
> 1/4 cup dark molasses
> 1/4 cup butter, cubed
> 2 tablespoons grated orange zest
> 1-1/2 teaspoons salt
> 1 teaspoon aniseed, lightly crushed
> 1 cup boiling water
> 1 cup cold water
> 2 packages (1/4 ounce each) active dry yeast
> 1/2 cup warm water (110° to 115°)
> 4-1/2 cups all-purpose flour
> 3 to 4 cups rye flour
> 2 tablespoons cornmeal
> 2 tablespoons butter, melted
>
> Directions
> 1. In a large bowl, combine brown sugar, molasses, butter, orange
> zest, salt, aniseed and boiling water; stir until brown sugar is
> dissolved and butter is melted. Stir in cold water; let stand until
> mixture cools to 110° to 115°.
>
> 2. Meanwhile, in a large bowl, dissolve yeast in warm water. Stir in
> molasses mixture; mix well. Add
>
> 3. all-purpose flour and 1 cup rye flour. Beat on medium speed 3
> minutes. Stir in enough remaining rye flour to form a stiff dough.
>
> 4. Turn onto a floured surface; knead until smooth and elastic, about
> 6-8 minutes. Place in a greased bowl, turning once to grease the top.
> Cover and let rise in a warm place until doubled, about 1 hour.
>
> 5. Punch dough down. Turn onto a lightly floured surface; divide in
> half. Shape into two oval loaves. Grease two baking sheets and
> sprinkle lightly with cornmeal. Place loaves on prepared pans. Cover
> and let rise until doubled, about 30 minutes.
>
> 6. Preheat oven to 350° . With a sharp knife, make four shallow
> slashes across top of each loaf. Bake 30-35 minutes or until golden
> brown. Remove to wire racks; brush with butter.
>

Thanks for the info, Boron! That should help her if she bothers to read
it.

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>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2018-11-25 10:31 AM, Pamela wrote:
>> >On 04:55 25 Nov 2018, Bruce > wrote in
>> > :
>> >
>> > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 18:29:16 -0800 (PST),
>> > > "
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > > To see if there truly was such a bread and were recipes
>> > > > available. Yes, to both inquiries to see if Ju-Ju even looked
>> > > > or did she just post a question for attention.
>> > >
>> > > One thing is for sure, Jo-Jo: you only replied for attention.
>> >
>> > Another thing is for sure, Bruce: you gave her attention.
>> >

>>
>>
>> Bruce is as desperate for attention as Julie is.

>
>Yup, faking people too it seems (not a new thing). He's even editing
>posts now so it looks like on quote folks said things they didn't.
>
>Basically he's destroyed any chance to be taken seriously here. Julie
>however gets real replies.


You keep accusing me of things I didn't do. Out of cluelessness, I
know, but it's still annoying.


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On 11/25/2018 7:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in
>>> any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it
>>> online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are
>>> so many variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any
>>> orange or orange peel in it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74,
>>> if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so
>>> hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but
>>> a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

>>
>> There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any
>> that require orange or orange peels.* Is that something you just
>> dreamed up?

>
> I guess you didn't look too far.
>
> https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/69...h-limpu-bread/
>
> Here's another:
>
> https://www.thespruceeats.com/swedis...-bread-2952664
>
> There are many others.


If you can find the recipe why did you bother asking? Gardener out of
town for the holidays?

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>On 11/25/2018 7:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in
>>>> any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it
>>>> online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are
>>>> so many variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any
>>>> orange or orange peel in it.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74,
>>>> if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so
>>>> hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but
>>>> a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.
>>>
>>> There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any
>>> that require orange or orange peels.* Is that something you just
>>> dreamed up?

>>
>> I guess you didn't look too far.
>>
>> https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/69...h-limpu-bread/
>>
>> Here's another:
>>
>> https://www.thespruceeats.com/swedis...-bread-2952664
>>
>> There are many others.

>
>If you can find the recipe why did you bother asking? Gardener out of
>town for the holidays?


Ask a food question in rec.food.cooking and they grill you like a
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Cheri wrote:

> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > > My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread
> > > in any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen
> > > it online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but
> > > there are so many variations. She said what she used to buy
> > > didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's
> > > 74, if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make
> > > bread so hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a
> > > crisp bread but a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of
> > > the loaf.

> >
> > Julie, no one can tell for sure what recipe you may want.

>
>
>
> Personally, I think she's talking about those smaller loaves that are
> sold mainly during the holidays where I am, different kinds from
> pumpernickel to swedish rye. Usually in the deli.
>
> Cheri


Hard to say.

Either way, my rye came out nicely.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/all/ga...rtDateUploaded

Lets hope I did that right. 3 photos in all
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> On 11/25/2018 7:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
>>>> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but
>>>> it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many
>>>> variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or
>>>> orange peel in it.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if
>>>> that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so
>>>> hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a
>>>> loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.
>>>
>>> There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any that
>>> require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just dreamed up?

>>
>> I guess you didn't look too far.
>>
>> https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/69...h-limpu-bread/
>>
>> Here's another:
>>
>> https://www.thespruceeats.com/swedis...-bread-2952664
>>
>> There are many others.

>
> If you can find the recipe why did you bother asking? Gardener out of
> town for the holidays?


You can't read for comprehension either. The recipe with orange is not what
I wanted. At least she said there was no orange in it. I want to know if
anyone remembers a readily available Swedish rye bread? If so, perhaps they
could describe it as she couldn't.

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> Cheri wrote:
>
>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > > My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread
>> > > in any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen
>> > > it online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but
>> > > there are so many variations. She said what she used to buy
>> > > didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.
>> > >
>> > > Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's
>> > > 74, if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make
>> > > bread so hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a
>> > > crisp bread but a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of
>> > > the loaf.
>> >
>> > Julie, no one can tell for sure what recipe you may want.

>>
>>
>>
>> Personally, I think she's talking about those smaller loaves that are
>> sold mainly during the holidays where I am, different kinds from
>> pumpernickel to swedish rye. Usually in the deli.
>>
>> Cheri

>
> Hard to say.
>
> Either way, my rye came out nicely.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/all/ga...rtDateUploaded
>
> Lets hope I did that right. 3 photos in all



I just get a black screen.

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"cshenk" > wrote in message
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> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in
>> any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it
>> online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are
>> so many variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any
>> orange or orange peel in it.
>>
>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74,
>> if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so
>> hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but
>> a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

>
> Julie, no one can tell for sure what recipe you may want.
>
> If she is 74, it was apt to not be shaped to a loaf pan so more of a
> freeform. Caraway would be more apt to be the seasoning but there
> might be Aniseseed.
>
> 1 1/3C water plus 1TB
> 3 TB butter
> 2 2/3 C bread flour (All purpose not recommended)
> 1 1/3 C rye flour
> 3 TB gluten flour additive
> 3 TB brown sugar
> 2 ts to 1 TB Caraway seeds
> 1 ts salt
> 1 1/2 ts active dry yeast
>
> If Caraway feels wrong, replace with Aniseseed as both are traditional.
> Many use 1 TB each. German ones use stone ground mustard.
>
> Using a bread machine, use dough mode then let rise in the oven with
> the light on for 1-1.5 hours then bake at 375 for about 20 minutes
> (then check).


Thanks!

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news
> "cshenk" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in
>>> any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it
>>> online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are
>>> so many variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any
>>> orange or orange peel in it.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74,
>>> if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so
>>> hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but
>>> a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

>>
>> Julie, no one can tell for sure what recipe you may want.

>
>
>
> Personally, I think she's talking about those smaller loaves that are sold
> mainly during the holidays where I am, different kinds from pumpernickel
> to swedish rye. Usually in the deli.


You mean the tiny slices? She said they used the bread for toast so I don't
think it's that. If that, I know what they are. I think Central Market sells
it.

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> On 11/24/2018 10:07 PM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 21:03:49 -0500, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
>>>> grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but
>>>> it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many
>>>> variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or
>>>> orange peel in it.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if
>>>> that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so
>>>> hasn't
>>>> a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf.
>>>> But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.
>>>
>>> There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any that
>>> require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just dreamed up?
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> It is limpa bread, which is a Swedish rye.
>>
>> I have a old recipe buried somewhere, but this is similar and will
>> give an idea of what's in it.
>>
>> https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/...h-limpa-bread/
>>
>> Ingredients
>> 1/2 cup packed light brown sugar
>> 1/4 cup dark molasses
>> 1/4 cup butter, cubed
>> 2 tablespoons grated orange zest
>> 1-1/2 teaspoons salt
>> 1 teaspoon aniseed, lightly crushed
>> 1 cup boiling water
>> 1 cup cold water
>> 2 packages (1/4 ounce each) active dry yeast
>> 1/2 cup warm water (110° to 115°)
>> 4-1/2 cups all-purpose flour
>> 3 to 4 cups rye flour
>> 2 tablespoons cornmeal
>> 2 tablespoons butter, melted
>>
>> Directions
>> 1. In a large bowl, combine brown sugar, molasses, butter, orange
>> zest, salt, aniseed and boiling water; stir until brown sugar is
>> dissolved and butter is melted. Stir in cold water; let stand until
>> mixture cools to 110° to 115°.
>>
>> 2. Meanwhile, in a large bowl, dissolve yeast in warm water. Stir in
>> molasses mixture; mix well. Add
>>
>> 3. all-purpose flour and 1 cup rye flour. Beat on medium speed 3
>> minutes. Stir in enough remaining rye flour to form a stiff dough.
>>
>> 4. Turn onto a floured surface; knead until smooth and elastic, about
>> 6-8 minutes. Place in a greased bowl, turning once to grease the top.
>> Cover and let rise in a warm place until doubled, about 1 hour.
>>
>> 5. Punch dough down. Turn onto a lightly floured surface; divide in
>> half. Shape into two oval loaves. Grease two baking sheets and
>> sprinkle lightly with cornmeal. Place loaves on prepared pans. Cover
>> and let rise until doubled, about 30 minutes.
>>
>> 6. Preheat oven to 350° . With a sharp knife, make four shallow
>> slashes across top of each loaf. Bake 30-35 minutes or until golden
>> brown. Remove to wire racks; brush with butter.
>>

> Thanks for the info, Boron! That should help her if she bothers to read
> it.
>
> Jill


How would that help? That's the kind I said I didn't want!

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On 11/25/2018 4:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 11/25/2018 7:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in
>>>>> any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it
>>>>> online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there
>>>>> are so many variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have
>>>>> any orange or orange peel in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74,
>>>>> if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread
>>>>> so hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp
>>>>> bread but a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.
>>>>
>>>> There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any
>>>> that require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just
>>>> dreamed up?
>>>
>>> I guess you didn't look too far.
>>>
>>> https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/69...h-limpu-bread/
>>>
>>> Here's another:
>>>
>>> https://www.thespruceeats.com/swedis...-bread-2952664
>>>
>>> There are many others.

>>
>> If you can find the recipe why did you bother asking?* Gardener out of
>> town for the holidays?

>
> You can't read for comprehension either. The recipe with orange is not
> what I wanted. At least she said there was no orange in it. I want to
> know if anyone remembers a readily available Swedish rye bread? If so,
> perhaps they could describe it as she couldn't.


Sorry, you mentioned orange peels (no idea why) so that's what I thought
you were looking for. Mea culpa.

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My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but it's
super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many variations. She
said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.

Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if that
helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't a clue
what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf. But she
can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

Julie- I remember the Swedish rye in every supermarket,
very common, I hAvent seen it in ages. It was with the Russian rye and all the variations that are still there today. They are usually on the bottom shelf now and made by Orowheat. I used to buy it often. It was a light rye with caraway seeds, not much rye flavor to it, slightly crisp crust. HTH.

Note to cshenk. If a person is 74, they were cooking in the 60s. I'm pretty sure at that point there were loaf pans on the market, Lolololol

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>"cshenk" > wrote in message
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>> Cheri wrote:
>>
>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread
>>> > > in any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen
>>> > > it online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but
>>> > > there are so many variations. She said what she used to buy
>>> > > didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.
>>> > >
>>> > > Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's
>>> > > 74, if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make
>>> > > bread so hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a
>>> > > crisp bread but a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of
>>> > > the loaf.
>>> >
>>> > Julie, no one can tell for sure what recipe you may want.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Personally, I think she's talking about those smaller loaves that are
>>> sold mainly during the holidays where I am, different kinds from
>>> pumpernickel to swedish rye. Usually in the deli.
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> Hard to say.
>>
>> Either way, my rye came out nicely.
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/all/ga...rtDateUploaded
>>
>> Lets hope I did that right. 3 photos in all

>
>
>I just get a black screen.
>
>Cheri


me too, then I'm told to sign up
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 14:40:41 -0700, U.S. Janet B. >
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>On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 13:12:16 -0800, "Cheri" >
>wrote:
>
>>"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
>>> Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread
>>>> > > in any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen
>>>> > > it online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but
>>>> > > there are so many variations. She said what she used to buy
>>>> > > didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's
>>>> > > 74, if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make
>>>> > > bread so hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a
>>>> > > crisp bread but a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of
>>>> > > the loaf.
>>>> >
>>>> > Julie, no one can tell for sure what recipe you may want.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I think she's talking about those smaller loaves that are
>>>> sold mainly during the holidays where I am, different kinds from
>>>> pumpernickel to swedish rye. Usually in the deli.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Hard to say.
>>>
>>> Either way, my rye came out nicely.
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/all/ga...rtDateUploaded
>>>
>>> Lets hope I did that right. 3 photos in all

>>
>>
>>I just get a black screen.
>>
>>Cheri

>
>me too, then I'm told to sign up


I have to sign in too.
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> On 11/25/2018 4:11 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 11/25/2018 7:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On 11/24/2018 8:23 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in
>>>>>> any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it
>>>>>> online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are
>>>>>> so many variations. She said what she used to buy didn't have any
>>>>>> orange or orange peel in it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74,
>>>>>> if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so
>>>>>> hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but
>>>>>> a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of the loaf.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are many recipes for Swedish rye bread but I've not found any
>>>>> that require orange or orange peels. Is that something you just
>>>>> dreamed up?
>>>>
>>>> I guess you didn't look too far.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/69...h-limpu-bread/
>>>>
>>>> Here's another:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.thespruceeats.com/swedis...-bread-2952664
>>>>
>>>> There are many others.
>>>
>>> If you can find the recipe why did you bother asking? Gardener out of
>>> town for the holidays?

>>
>> You can't read for comprehension either. The recipe with orange is not
>> what I wanted. At least she said there was no orange in it. I want to
>> know if anyone remembers a readily available Swedish rye bread? If so,
>> perhaps they could describe it as she couldn't.

>
> Sorry, you mentioned orange peels (no idea why) so that's what I thought
> you were looking for. Mea culpa.


I said she told me that the bread she bought didn't have orange. And there
was such a variety of recipes out there, I had no clue what she used to buy.

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> wrote:
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>>On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 13:12:16 -0800, "Cheri" >
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>>
>>>"cshenk" > wrote in message
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>>>> Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "cshenk" > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread
>>>>> > > in any grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen
>>>>> > > it online but it's super expensive. And I've seem recipes but
>>>>> > > there are so many variations. She said what she used to buy
>>>>> > > didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's
>>>>> > > 74, if that helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make
>>>>> > > bread so hasn't a clue what might have been in it. It wasn't a
>>>>> > > crisp bread but a loaf. But she can't even describe the shape of
>>>>> > > the loaf.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Julie, no one can tell for sure what recipe you may want.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I think she's talking about those smaller loaves that are
>>>>> sold mainly during the holidays where I am, different kinds from
>>>>> pumpernickel to swedish rye. Usually in the deli.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> Hard to say.
>>>>
>>>> Either way, my rye came out nicely.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/photos/all/ga...rtDateUploaded
>>>>
>>>> Lets hope I did that right. 3 photos in all
>>>
>>>
>>>I just get a black screen.
>>>
>>>Cheri

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My friend mentioned that she could readily buy Swedish Rye bread in any
grocery store as a kid through a young adult. I have seen it online but it's
super expensive. And I've seem recipes but there are so many variations. She
said what she used to buy didn't have any orange or orange peel in it.

Does anyone know what kind of bread this might have been? She's 74, if that
helps. I know I could make it. But she doesn't make bread so hasn't a clue
what might have been in it. It wasn't a crisp bread but a loaf. But she
can't even describe the shape of the loaf.

Julie- I remember the Swedish rye in every supermarket,
very common, I hAvent seen it in ages. It was with the Russian rye and all
the variations that are still there today. They are usually on the bottom
shelf now and made by Orowheat. I used to buy it often. It was a light rye
with caraway seeds, not much rye flavor to it, slightly crisp crust. HTH.

Note to cshenk. If a person is 74, they were cooking in the 60s. I'm pretty
sure at that point there were loaf pans on the market, Lolololol

Nellie.

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Thanks! I asked on a local group just in case it was a local product.
Someone there said that Oroweat made it. Appears they no longer do. I did
check their website. I will tell her that you remember it so she can stop
thinking she's crazy. Hehehe.

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