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Old 26-07-2005, 10:50 PM
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"Beach Runner" wrote in message
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It sounds like e have some Vegans. Are you interested in vegan
discussion? That would be interesting.

The soy research interests me. The rat studies more than got
my curiosity, but no dangers have been shown in human
populations,
primate populations, or cultures that eat soy their entire
lives.
Never the less, the research is compelling.

What are some vegan sources of B12. I've had mine regularly
monitored
(as all vegans do). My blood has great chemistry. When I was
a fat vegan, I had high lipid and bad profiles. Exercise must
be part of the equation. I can only wonder how much worse it
would have been if I ate artery clogging meat.


I will respond to anyone with reasonable, non mean spirited
arguments.

========================
No you won't. You prefer spew and lys. You've yet to bak up
your water usage delusions with the math I provided or you. Why
is that? Can't figure out how to use those supposed advanced
degrees?





delete rest of spew...



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Old 26-07-2005, 10:52 PM
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to clarify, i will not respond to usual suspects, he ruins this
group

================
Translation, I can't despute the truth told by U.S, so I'll slink
away and pretend that it doesn't exist.

btw, where's your water usage calculations?






Beach Runner wrote:

It sounds like e have some Vegans. Are you interested in vegan
discussion? That would be interesting.

The soy research interests me. The rat studies more than got
my curiosity, but no dangers have been shown in human
populations,
primate populations, or cultures that eat soy their entire
lives.
Never the less, the research is compelling.

What are some vegan sources of B12. I've had mine regularly
monitored
(as all vegans do). My blood has great chemistry. When I
was a fat vegan, I had high lipid and bad profiles. Exercise
must be part of the equation. I can only wonder how much
worse it would have been if I ate artery clogging meat.


I will respond to anyone with reasonable, non mean spirited
arguments.

As far as environmental issues. there is no question that Bush
has done all he can to let coal produce dirty air, rollback
improved mpg regulations, and build is he worst environmental
president in American history.

He also is a failure as a war leader. Where is Bin Laden?
After 250 people died in Iraq he said we won. Over a thousand
American's have died since. We are deeply in debt, (from a
president that took over a surplus).

I'm against the terrorists as much as anyone, but Bush has
been totally ineffective.

He let the navy use sonar that hurts and beaches whales and
marine mammals He is building roads into pristine forests.

They spent more investigating Monica Lewisnksy than Enron Lay
and the












Challenger put together.

We need change.

and we have two calamities facing the world, global warming
and anti-biotic resistant bacteria. Our president ignores
these critical issues.

Did Bush win the election?
UIC Prof's Statistical Analysis Casts Doubt on '04 Election
Result

Chicago, IL 60607 July 4, 2005

By Gigi Wasz
Gazette news magazine, Chicago

A University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC) professor recently
issued a report calling into question the results of the 2004
presidential election.

In the 30-plus page report, Ron Baiman, PhD, of UIC's
Institute
of Government and Public Affairs, along with eleven other
colleagues from other prestigious universities, applied
quantitative data to explain the discrepancy between exit poll
projections and votes actually recorded in the November
election and to understand the analysis given by Edison Media
Research & Mitofsky International (E/M), the pollster of
record
for the national election.

E/M's poll projections predicted a win for Democrat John Kerry
by 3%, however, when votes were tallied, Republican President
George W. Bush was given the win by 2.5%-the largest
discrepancy in the poll's history. In its post-election
analysis and report, E/M discredited its own poll projections,
claiming the official vote was not corrupted and that "Kerry
voters were more amenable to completing the poll questionnaire
than Bush voters."

"Using their (E/M's) data tables, we demonstrated that their
hypothesis of outspoken Kerry supporters is implausible,"
explained Baiman. "If the polls were faulty because Bush
voters
were shy in the presence of Kerry voters and less likely to
cooperate with pollsters, the polls should be the most
accurate
in the precincts where Bush voters were in the overwhelming
majority and where exit poll participation was also at its
maximum. What we find is just the opposite. In fact, the mean
exit poll discrepancy was dramatically higher in Bush
strongholds than in Kerry strongholds."

Baiman and his research team then set out to explain the
discrepancy between the national exit poll and the official
vote. They initially targeted random chance or exit poll
errors. Said Baiman, "There have been several methods to
estimate the probability that the national exit polls would be
as different as they were from the national popular vote by
random chance. These estimates range from one in 1,240 to one
in 16.5 million. No matter how one calculates it, the
discrepancy cannot be attributed to chance."

National research shows "exit polling is a well developed
science, informed by half a century of experience and
continually improving methodology," Baiman explained. For
example, E/M samples voters not only for the nationwide exit
poll but for each state's exit poll. Furthermore, the research
team found that the same exit polls accurately projected U.S.
Senate races; both the Presidential and Senate poll results
are
derived from the exact same responders.

"If Bush supporters were refusing to fill out the survey as
hypothesized, the accuracy of the exit polls should have been
just as poor in the Senate races as it was in the Presidential
race," the research team charged in its report. According to
Baiman, by ruling out random chance and exit poll errors, the
only other logical explanation would be that the official vote
was corrupted. In its executive summary, the group's report
states, "the many anecdotal reports of voting irregularities
create a context in which the possibility that the overall
vote
count was substantially corrupted must be taken seriously."
The
report concludes by calling for a thorough investigation and a
"careful, exhaustive recount in key states."

"Our goal is to raise awareness of the exit poll problems and
to highlight the need for broad election reform," commented
Baiman. "The fact that Edison/Mitofsky has not released its
raw
data, which would facilitate independent corroboration of its
analysis, is problematic. The biggest problem is not what
Edison/Mitofsky has concluded, but the fact that it is sitting
on its substantive analysis and data and not allowing any
other
independent party to look at it. That this is allowed to
continue is a national and media disgrace."

According to a website dedicated to investigating the 2004
Presidential election, www.bushoccupation.com, "To believe
that
Bush won the election, you must also believe: that the exit
polls were wrong; that Zogby's [a traditionally accurate
pollster] 5 p.m. election day calls for Kerry winning Ohio and
Florida were wrong...; that incumbent rule #1-undecideds break
for the challenger-was wrong; that the 50% rule-an incumbent
doesn't do better than his final polling-was wrong; that the
approval rating rule-an incumbent with less than 50% approval
will most likely lose the election-was wrong; that it was just
a coincidence that the exit polls were correct where there was
a paper trail and incorrect (+5% for Bush) where there was no
paper trail; that the surge in new young voters had no
positive
effect for Kerry; that Kerry did worse than (Al) Gore against
an opponent who lost the support of scores of Republican
newspapers who were for Bush in 2000...."

To learn more about the election analysis by Baiman and his
team of professionals, contact Baiman at .

wrote:


rick wrote:

wrote in message
ups.com...


nemo wrote:

[email protected] wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:35:40 GMT, Beach Runner
wrote:


Usual suspects has done nothing but be nasty.
He has accused a member of my family of being a
homosexual.
He is CLEARLY not interested in VEGAN lifestyle or
beliefs.
He has
stated he doesn't care about the suffering of animals.
He calls Osteopaths quacks that teach at major
universities.
His constant insults accomplish nothing but make this a
useless news
group. It has a purpose, promoting and discussion of a
vegan life, but
his agenda is sick.
He complains about removing unnecessary text, then when I
post
Dr. Greger's newsletter complains about the length.

He is clearly a very sick, mean person and is now
killfiled.

I welcome discussions on vegan subjects.


∑ Vegans contribute to the deaths of animals by their use
of
wood and paper products, electricity, roads and all types
of
buildings, their own diet, etc... just as everyone else
does.


What part of "To a much lesser extent" don't you
understand?


What they try to avoid are products which provide life
(and death) for farm animals, but even then they would
have
to avoid the following in order to be successful:


Same old tosh!

In other words you're saying if you can't stop contributing
to
the death of
animals 100%, you shouldn't try for, say, 50%, 80% or
whatever
by not eating
the poor buggers. This is illogical, it's rubbisha dn it's
just
a wind-up.

So their's gelatin in paper, white sugar is refined using
bone
charcoal, and
by law just about everything has to be tested using the
infamous and largely
ineffective LD50 test, the end is listless.

It's not us Vegan's fault. We do our best and rubbish like
yours isn't going
to deflect us from this and iota.



exactly!!

Useless and etter can go to hell.
===============
Ahhh, feel the typical vegan compassion. You guys crack me
up!!!




All right then, go to heaven but just shut yer piehole if you
have
nothing positive to say.....and the same goes for your
girlfriend
~jonnie~.



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Old 28-07-2005, 02:40 PM
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nemo wrote:
Usual suspects has done nothing but be nasty.
He has accused a member of my family of being a homosexual.
He is CLEARLY not interested in VEGAN lifestyle or beliefs. He has
stated he doesn't care about the suffering of animals.
He calls Osteopaths quacks that teach at major universities.
His constant insults accomplish nothing but make this a useless news
group. It has a purpose, promoting and discussion of a vegan life, but
his agenda is sick.
He complains about removing unnecessary text, then when I post
Dr. Greger's newsletter complains about the length.

He is clearly a very sick, mean person and is now killfiled.

I welcome discussions on vegan subjects.


Well said.


No, it was not. It was rambling, inaccurate, and incoherent.
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Old 28-07-2005, 02:43 PM
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Beach Runner wrote:
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Thank you. I think he's chased away most vegans.


You give me far too much credit.
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Old 28-07-2005, 02:45 PM
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eavesdropper wrote:
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Remember I pointed out a son was recruited to wrestle because of he was
the best athlete in his school for his weight. It got him a scholarship
to college. Instead homophobic Usual Suspects spread lies about him.


I read that, and from what I could gather, instead of insinuating that your
son was a homosexual,


I didn't insinuate anything. I rightly noted that wrestling is homoerotic.


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Old 28-07-2005, 03:07 PM
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Beach Runner wrote:
It sounds like e have some Vegans. Are you interested in vegan
discussion? That would be interesting.


You're an imbecile.

The soy research interests me. The rat studies more than got my
curiosity, but no dangers have been shown in human populations,


Bullshit.

primate populations,


What other primates eat soy, numbnuts?

or cultures that eat soy their entire lives.
Never the less, the research is compelling.


Then why are you forcing it and all its estrogens down that little
girl's throat? And why are you willfully consuming estrogens?

What are some vegan sources of B12. I've had mine regularly monitored
(as all vegans do).


NOT ALL VEGANS MONITOR THEIR B12.

My blood has great chemistry. When I was a fat
vegan, I had high lipid and bad profiles. Exercise must be part of the
equation.


It was.

I can only wonder how much worse it would have been if I ate
artery clogging meat.


Meat doesn't clog arteries. Saturated fats do and so do aspects of
lifestyle. That's why you had a poor lipid profile before, numbnuts.

I will respond to anyone with reasonable, non mean spirited arguments.


No, you will not.

As far as environmental issues. there is no question that Bush has done
all he can to let coal produce dirty air,


Liar. BTW, do all your local coal-powered energy plants comply with the
tightest regulations? If not, why are you relying on coal power to
air-condition your home, run your computer, etc., you hypocrite?

rollback improved mpg regulations,


He's done nothing of the sort. In fact, he's worked to create incentives
to increase the number of gas-electric hybrids and hydrogen-powered
vehicles on the road.

and build is he worst environmental president in American
history.


Hardly. Just because he's not adopted socialist policies advocated by
groups like Greenpeace, Sierra Club, and Sea Shepherds doesn't mean he's
not environmentally concerned. He just thinks there are more effective
ways of handling such issues that won't lead to job losses.

He also is a failure as a war leader.


No, he's done quite well.

Where is Bin Laden?

Cowering in some cave, hiding from Bush and Blair.

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Old 28-07-2005, 04:03 PM
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eavesdropper wrote:
Remember I pointed out a son was recruited to wrestle because of he was
the best athlete in his school for his weight. It got him a scholarship
to college. Instead homophobic Usual Suspects spread lies about him.

I read that, and from what I could gather, instead of insinuating that your
son was a homosexual,


I didn't insinuate anything. I rightly noted that wrestling is homoerotic.


For


those who watch or participate in it. I don't.
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Old 28-07-2005, 06:37 PM
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"eavesdropper" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:03:12 GMT, usual suspect wrote:

eavesdropper wrote:
Remember I pointed out a son was recruited to wrestle because of he was
the best athlete in his school for his weight. It got him a scholarship
to college. Instead homophobic Usual Suspects spread lies about him.

I read that, and from what I could gather, instead of insinuating that your
son was a homosexual,

I didn't insinuate anything. I rightly noted that wrestling is homoerotic.

For


those who watch or participate in it. I don't.


Though you might not watch it now, googling shows that when you first
saw the sport you found it erotic in a homosexual way.

~Wrestling is homo-erotic. Those who enjoy watching oiled young men
rolling on the floor with each other are closet homosexuals.~
usual suspect Jul 21 2005

~I think that has much more to do with latent homosexual tendencies --
well-adjusted people don't get excited about watching oily, semi-nude
men rolling around with each other on the floor.~
usual suspect Nov 21 2003

Only a homosexual, latent or otherwise would find the sport homoerotic
like you do, so it appears you've inadvertently outed yourself and shown
that you have a loathing for what you are as well. Be a good little queer
and leave more than just the one word of this post in your reply.


So that's it - usual suspect is a self-loathing queer.


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Old 28-07-2005, 07:45 PM
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"eavesdropper" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:37:11 +0100, "John" wrote:


"eavesdropper" wrote in message ...
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:03:12 GMT, usual suspect wrote:

eavesdropper wrote:
Remember I pointed out a son was recruited to wrestle because of he was
the best athlete in his school for his weight. It got him a scholarship
to college. Instead homophobic Usual Suspects spread lies about him.

I read that, and from what I could gather, instead of insinuating that your
son was a homosexual,

I didn't insinuate anything. I rightly noted that wrestling is homoerotic.

For

those who watch or participate in it. I don't.

Though you might not watch it now, googling shows that when you first
saw the sport you found it erotic in a homosexual way.

~Wrestling is homo-erotic. Those who enjoy watching oiled young men
rolling on the floor with each other are closet homosexuals.~
usual suspect Jul 21 2005

~I think that has much more to do with latent homosexual tendencies --
well-adjusted people don't get excited about watching oily, semi-nude
men rolling around with each other on the floor.~
usual suspect Nov 21 2003

Only a homosexual, latent or otherwise would find the sport homoerotic
like you do, so it appears you've inadvertently outed yourself and shown
that you have a loathing for what you are as well. Be a good little queer
and leave more than just the one word of this post in your reply.


So that's it - usual suspect is a self-loathing queer.

S/he is of the opinion that well-adjusted (non-queer) people don't get sexually
aroused when watching wrestlers, but at the same time admitted s/he does
feel sexually aroused when watching it and therefore doesn't watch it for that
very reason. How's that for frustration?


About as bad as it can possibly get, I'd say.


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Old 28-07-2005, 08:02 PM
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"John" wrote in message
...

"eavesdropper" wrote in message

...
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:37:11 +0100, "John" wrote:


"eavesdropper" wrote in message

...
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:03:12 GMT, usual suspect

wrote:

eavesdropper wrote:
Remember I pointed out a son was recruited to wrestle because of

he was
the best athlete in his school for his weight. It got him a

scholarship
to college. Instead homophobic Usual Suspects spread lies about

him.

I read that, and from what I could gather, instead of insinuating

that your
son was a homosexual,

I didn't insinuate anything. I rightly noted that wrestling is

homoerotic.

For

those who watch or participate in it. I don't.

Though you might not watch it now, googling shows that when you first
saw the sport you found it erotic in a homosexual way.

~Wrestling is homo-erotic. Those who enjoy watching oiled young men
rolling on the floor with each other are closet homosexuals.~
usual suspect Jul 21 2005

~I think that has much more to do with latent homosexual tendencies --
well-adjusted people don't get excited about watching oily,

semi-nude
men rolling around with each other on the floor.~
usual suspect Nov 21 2003

Only a homosexual, latent or otherwise would find the sport homoerotic
like you do, so it appears you've inadvertently outed yourself and

shown
that you have a loathing for what you are as well. Be a good little

queer
and leave more than just the one word of this post in your reply.

So that's it - usual suspect is a self-loathing queer.

S/he is of the opinion that well-adjusted (non-queer) people don't get

sexually
aroused when watching wrestlers, but at the same time admitted s/he does
feel sexually aroused when watching it and therefore doesn't watch it

for that
very reason. How's that for frustration?


About as bad as it can possibly get, I'd say.


Maybe he would be good for
answering one of those personal
ads "straight looking/acting seeks
same for first time sex".
I wonder if he trolls the ***
newsgroups like he does here.
He talks anti vegan here, yet is
an almost vegan himself. Maybe
it's the same with him in the ***
groups under a different name.


--
SN
http://www.scentednectar.com/veg/




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"eavesdropper" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:02:33 -0400, "Scented Nectar"

wrote:

"John" wrote in message
...

"eavesdropper" wrote in message

.. .
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:37:11 +0100, "John" wrote:


"eavesdropper" wrote in message

.. .
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 15:03:12 GMT, usual suspect


wrote:

eavesdropper wrote:
Remember I pointed out a son was recruited to wrestle because

of
he was
the best athlete in his school for his weight. It got him a

scholarship
to college. Instead homophobic Usual Suspects spread lies

about
him.

I read that, and from what I could gather, instead of

insinuating
that your
son was a homosexual,

I didn't insinuate anything. I rightly noted that wrestling is

homoerotic.

For

those who watch or participate in it. I don't.

Though you might not watch it now, googling shows that when you

first
saw the sport you found it erotic in a homosexual way.

~Wrestling is homo-erotic. Those who enjoy watching oiled young men
rolling on the floor with each other are closet homosexuals.~
usual suspect Jul 21 2005

~I think that has much more to do with latent homosexual

tendencies --
well-adjusted people don't get excited about watching oily,

semi-nude
men rolling around with each other on the floor.~
usual suspect Nov 21 2003

Only a homosexual, latent or otherwise would find the sport

homoerotic
like you do, so it appears you've inadvertently outed yourself and

shown
that you have a loathing for what you are as well. Be a good little

queer
and leave more than just the one word of this post in your reply.

So that's it - usual suspect is a self-loathing queer.

S/he is of the opinion that well-adjusted (non-queer) people don't

get
sexually
aroused when watching wrestlers, but at the same time admitted s/he

does
feel sexually aroused when watching it and therefore doesn't watch it

for that
very reason. How's that for frustration?

About as bad as it can possibly get, I'd say.


Maybe he would be good for
answering one of those personal
ads "straight looking/acting seeks
same for first time sex".


He? I wasn't sure, and googling ~him~ didn't give me any real clues

either.
I'll refer to it as a he from now on. As for those personal ads - 'Closet,
self-loathing homo looking for same to swap insults and sneers. No
vegans need apply.'


I think it's a he. 'He' hasn't
corrected anyone who calls
him a male pronoun.

I wonder if he trolls the ***
newsgroups like he does here.
He talks anti vegan here, yet is
an almost vegan himself.


You'll have to expand on that. I'm not sure what you mean. To borrow
a term from you, is he "mostly" vegan? ;-)


From what I gather he has
been vegan for quite a while.
He came to this newsgroup,
found that he didn't agree with
the leftist opinions of some of
the posters, and took up with
the anti-vegan posters. He 1st
claimed he was vegan but for
health purposes. He made
a big deal a while back about
breaking this by having some
sushi or sashimi or whatever.
He adamantly does not want
to be called a vegan now, but
will admit to having been a strict
vegetarian if pushed a bit.
Some people define vegan as
a diet and some as a lifestyle.
He defines it only as a lifestye
and ethical choice, and hates it.

Maybe
it's the same with him in the ***
groups under a different name.


It's a certainty. From what I can gather he attacks those whom he
secretly yearns to be but daren't. He's the closet type, and they're
often the most vicious when in the company of those 'out' in the
open about their sexuality.


When he found out I'm female
and that one of my female friends
did some (mild) nude sketches
of a nude woman on my website,
he has been calling me a "sushi
eater" ever since! Recently he
referred to having a girlfriend of
4 years. I'm doubtful and think
he's just trying to sound like a
successful straight male. I know
men who are definitely 100%
straight who enjoy wrestling. It
doesn't get them thinking about
sex like it does for Usual Suspect.


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usual suspect wrote:

nemo wrote:

Usual suspects has done nothing but be nasty.
He has accused a member of my family of being a homosexual.
He is CLEARLY not interested in VEGAN lifestyle or beliefs. He has
stated he doesn't care about the suffering of animals.
He calls Osteopaths quacks that teach at major universities.
His constant insults accomplish nothing but make this a useless news
group. It has a purpose, promoting and discussion of a vegan life, but
his agenda is sick.
He complains about removing unnecessary text, then when I post
Dr. Greger's newsletter complains about the length.

He is clearly a very sick, mean person and is now killfiled.

I welcome discussions on vegan subjects.



Well said.



No, it was not. It was rambling, inaccurate, and incoherent.


Where is it rambling, inaccurate or incoherent?
He complained about DR Greger's newsletter, a respected, documented
writer. He has called my step son a homo sexual because he participated
in a sport that got him into college. It also demonstrated the health
potentials of a vegan life style. He calls an osteopath a quack who has
taught at two major universities, yet backs none of his allegations.
Just because he's an osteopath, licensed to practice medicine in several
states and well published and well reviewed by major osteopathic
organization. Even after a 3rd year medical student corrected him, who
he ignored.
And he is mean spirited and nasty. This replies to all his comments.
I apologize for any typos. I have made mistakes in my life but I doubt
few VEGANS (that's what this newsgroup is for) dissagree. If they do,
let me know.
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Old 29-07-2005, 03:24 PM
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eavesdropper wrote:
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Remember I pointed out a son was recruited to wrestle because of he was
the best athlete in his school for his weight. It got him a scholarship
to college. Instead homophobic Usual Suspects spread lies about him.

I read that, and from what I could gather, instead of insinuating that your
son was a homosexual,

I didn't insinuate anything. I rightly noted that wrestling is homoerotic.

For


those who watch or participate in it. I don't.


You


I don't.
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Old 29-07-2005, 03:36 PM
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eavesdropper wrote:
Remember I pointed out a son was recruited to wrestle because of he was
the best athlete in his school for his weight. It got him a scholarship
to college. Instead homophobic Usual Suspects spread lies about him.

I read that, and from what I could gather, instead of insinuating that your
son was a homosexual,

I didn't insinuate anything. I rightly noted that wrestling is homoerotic.

For


those who watch or participate in it. I don't.


Though you might not watch it now,


I never shall, either. You may consider yourself quite an expert in
bungholery, but the subject doesn't interest me at all.
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Old 29-07-2005, 04:13 PM
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Beach Runner wrote:
Usual suspects has done nothing but be nasty.
He has accused a member of my family of being a homosexual.
He is CLEARLY not interested in VEGAN lifestyle or beliefs. He has
stated he doesn't care about the suffering of animals.
He calls Osteopaths quacks that teach at major universities.
His constant insults accomplish nothing but make this a useless news
group. It has a purpose, promoting and discussion of a vegan life, but
his agenda is sick.
He complains about removing unnecessary text, then when I post
Dr. Greger's newsletter complains about the length.

He is clearly a very sick, mean person and is now killfiled.

I welcome discussions on vegan subjects.

Well said.


No, it was not. It was rambling, inaccurate, and incoherent.


Where is it rambling, inaccurate or incoherent?


All your posts are rambling, inaccurate, AND incoherent.


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