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On 6/13/2021 1:26 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.


I turn of my stove's pilot light permanently! I went all ELECTRIC! And I have my gas company come and pull their gas meter from my house!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

That's because you're an idiot who only knows how to cook four or five
things.

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 16:32:09 -0400, jmcquown
wrote:

On 6/13/2021 1:26 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.


I turn of my stove's pilot light permanently! I went all ELECTRIC! And I have my gas company come and pull their gas meter from my house!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

That's because you're an idiot who only knows how to cook four or five
things.

Jill

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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On 6/13/2021 12:52 AM, GM wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.



Years ago I used to do a lot of home canning. I didn't have A/C, and I'd often choose the hottest days to can. It would be SO hot that it would be a "transcedental" experience - and accompanied by LOTS of ice - cold beer...

Couldn't do that now, I'd surely croak...


I have grandma's old huge enamel pot with the wire rack in the bottom.
I might pick up some Ball jars and try my hand at canning this year. I
planted a dozen tomato plants, so why not?
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On 6/13/2021 8:19 AM, Gary wrote:
On 6/13/2021 12:29 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest
idea.


Look at the bright side. It's done and now you have plenty of delish
cookies.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen,


That's silly.




Yes, several to freeze. Some were given away as a birthday gift.

I have a huge stock pile of matches to light the stove top. My former
stove was match-lite only for years, this pilot light thing is new to me
as of last autumn. The oven is still match light (50's Chambers stove),
only the top has pilot lights, so I didn't see a point in adding more
heat to the kitchen this summer. I'll likely turn them back on when
since it helps with heating when the cold weather comes.
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 21:37:23 -0400, Michael Trew
wrote:

On 6/13/2021 12:52 AM, GM wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.



Years ago I used to do a lot of home canning. I didn't have A/C, and I'd often choose the hottest days to can. It would be SO hot that it would be a "transcedental" experience - and accompanied by LOTS of ice - cold beer...

Couldn't do that now, I'd surely croak...


I have grandma's old huge enamel pot with the wire rack in the bottom.
I might pick up some Ball jars and try my hand at canning this year. I
planted a dozen tomato plants, so why not?

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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On 6/13/2021 1:26 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.


I turn of my stove's pilot light permanently! I went all ELECTRIC! And I have my gas company come and pull their gas meter from my house!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...


Natural gas is dirt cheap around here, I'll keep my stove. I don't care
about the oven, other than the cost, but I hate cooking on an electric
stove top.
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On 6/13/2021 1:35 PM, GM wrote:
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 12:27:02 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.

I turn of my stove's pilot light permanently! I went all ELECTRIC! And I have my gas company come and pull their gas meter from my house!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...



The VAST majority of your electric is derived from COAL, John...


No one seems to understand that. Same deal with these electric cars.
Yes, they are not polluting locally, but on top of fossil fuel plants,
literally about half of all electricity is lost during transmission...
that's terribly inefficient, and adds up to twice of the claimed
pollution of whatever fossil fuel the plant burns.
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 21:40:47 -0400, Michael Trew
wrote:

On 6/13/2021 1:26 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.


I turn of my stove's pilot light permanently! I went all ELECTRIC! And I have my gas company come and pull their gas meter from my house!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...


Natural gas is dirt cheap around here, I'll keep my stove. I don't care
about the oven, other than the cost, but I hate cooking on an electric
stove top.

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 21:39:50 -0400, Michael Trew
wrote:

On 6/13/2021 8:19 AM, Gary wrote:
On 6/13/2021 12:29 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest
idea.


Look at the bright side. It's done and now you have plenty of delish
cookies.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen,


That's silly.




Yes, several to freeze. Some were given away as a birthday gift.

I have a huge stock pile of matches to light the stove top. My former
stove was match-lite only for years, this pilot light thing is new to me
as of last autumn. The oven is still match light (50's Chambers stove),
only the top has pilot lights, so I didn't see a point in adding more
heat to the kitchen this summer. I'll likely turn them back on when
since it helps with heating when the cold weather comes.

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
Bruce
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 21:37:23 -0400, Michael Trew
wrote:

On 6/13/2021 12:52 AM, GM wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.



Years ago I used to do a lot of home canning. I didn't have A/C, and I'd often choose the hottest days to can. It would be SO hot that it would be a "transcedental" experience - and accompanied by LOTS of ice - cold beer...

Couldn't do that now, I'd surely croak...


I have grandma's old huge enamel pot with the wire rack in the bottom.
I might pick up some Ball jars and try my hand at canning this year. I
planted a dozen tomato plants, so why not?

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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Michael Trew wrote:

On 6/13/2021 1:35 PM, GM wrote:
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 12:27:02 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.
I turn of my stove's pilot light permanently! I went all ELECTRIC! And I have my gas company come and pull their gas meter from my house!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...



The VAST majority of your electric is derived from COAL, John...

No one seems to understand that. Same deal with these electric cars.
Yes, they are not polluting locally, but on top of fossil fuel plants,
literally about half of all electricity is lost during transmission...
that's terribly inefficient, and adds up to twice of the claimed
pollution of whatever fossil fuel the plant burns.



EV's can be *far* worse as consumption and disposal of fuel and raw materials goes...from the original mining of the battery/vehicle materials to fuel consumed to the eventual disposal of those batteries/vehicle materials ...

An example of hare - brained environmental "thinking" is California's mandate to rapidly switch to EV's. Much has been debated about this, here is one piece:

https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-e...-cut-emissions

California should let carbon market, not mandate, cut emissions

BY GEOFF COOPER, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR €” 10/05/20

"California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) sent shock waves through energy and climate policy circles recently when he ordered that all new passenger cars and trucks sold in the state must be €œzero-emission€ by 2035.

Of course, in California regulatory lingo, the term €œzero-emission vehicle€ (or €œZEV€) is shorthand for an electric or fuel cell vehicle. Thus, starting 15 years from now, Gov. Newsoms order would essentially ban the sale of cars and trucks that use liquid fuels in internal combustion engines and mandate the sale of battery electric, plug-in hybrid and fuel cell vehicles.

Theres no question that the executive order is as bold as it is fashionable. But is it realistic? And is it truly necessary?

Indeed, the goal behind the ZEV mandate €” combating climate change €”is laudable and absolutely should be pursued with urgency. As producers of renewable liquid fuels, confronting climate change and reducing carbon emissions is our goal too.

In California, the transportation sector accounts for more than 50 percent of the states greenhouse gas emissions. And nationwide, transportation is the single largest source of greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions. We can €” and must €” do more to reduce carbon pollution, and we need to act quickly.

But lets get a few things straight.

First, there is no such thing as a zero-emission vehicle. Calling an electric vehicle a ZEV is like calling a donkey a unicorn €” it sounds nice, but it simply isnt real. Just because there arent any greenhouse gas emissions coming out the tailpipe of an electric vehicle doesnt mean the vehicle and its fuel are emissions-free. The electricity that powers the vehicle had to come from somewhere. And, if it comes from fossil fuels, the true carbon impacts of a €œZEV€ can be as bad or worse than the impacts of a vehicle running on straight gasoline.

Its true that California gets a significant share (about 30 percent) of its electricity from clean, renewable sources like biomass, wind, solar and hydro. Its also true that an electric vehicle running on these sources of electricity offers a far smaller carbon footprint than a vehicle running on gasoline. But roughly one-third of the electricity produced in California is generated by natural gas-fired plants. Another one-third of the states electricity comes in from other states and, yes, some of those places still use coal in their power plants. Nationwide, fossil fuels like coal and natural gas still generate 63 percent of our electricity, with 20 percent coming from nuclear and 18 percent from renewables..."

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On 6/13/2021 9:43 PM, Michael Trew wrote:

The VAST majority of your electric is derived from COAL, John...


No one seems to understand that.Β* Same deal with these electric cars.
Yes, they are not polluting locally, but on top of fossil fuel plants,
literally about half of all electricity is lost during transmission...
that's terribly inefficient, and adds up to twice of the claimed
pollution of whatever fossil fuel the plant burns.


You need to brush up on the facts. Electricity loss is about 5% in
transmission.
https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=105&t=3
The U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) estimates that
electricity transmission and distribution (T&D) losses equaled about 5%
of the electricity transmitted and distributed in the United States in
2015 through 2019.

http://insideenergy.org/2015/11/06/l...and-your-plug/
Energy lost in transmission and distribution: About 6% €“ 2% in
transmission and 4% in distribution €“ or 69 trillion Btus in the U.S. in
2013

In the future, other forms of generation will take over. In our area
solar is viable and I get some of my juice from solar.

EVs have a long way to go to be ideal, but there are many new
technologies in the works to reduce or eliminate lithium, make faster
charging times, longer distance.

People thought the automobile was just a fad for the wealthy too. It
will take years but it will be viable.
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On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:11:36 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 12:52:31 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.

Years ago I used to do a lot of home canning. I didn't have A/C, and I'd often choose the hottest days to can. It would be SO hot that it would be a "transcedental" experience - and accompanied by LOTS of ice - cold beer....

Couldn't do that now, I'd surely croak...

Oh so now, you choose to go to the stores like a normal person.



When were going through challenges, the devil likes to keep putting in our heads, €œI cant do this. Its too hard. I cant take it.€ I just want to tell you that you are stronger than you think you are!

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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 21:43:11 -0400, Michael Trew
wrote:

On 6/13/2021 1:35 PM, GM wrote:
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 12:27:02 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.
I turn of my stove's pilot light permanently! I went all ELECTRIC! And I have my gas company come and pull their gas meter from my house!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...



The VAST majority of your electric is derived from COAL, John...


No one seems to understand that. Same deal with these electric cars.
Yes, they are not polluting locally, but on top of fossil fuel plants,
literally about half of all electricity is lost during transmission...
that's terribly inefficient, and adds up to twice of the claimed
pollution of whatever fossil fuel the plant burns.

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 20:05:27 -0700 (PDT), GM
wrote:

On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:11:36 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 12:52:31 AM UTC-4, GM wrote:
On Saturday, June 12, 2021 at 11:29:00 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
I'm not sure what recently compelled me to make a double recipe of toll
house cookies, but it somehow came out to be about 9 dozen cookies. In
a house without A/C on a near 90 degree day, that wasn't my smartest idea.

I decided to turn off the the pilot lights on my stove to save on heat
in the kitchen, and supper was just a cold chipped chopped ham and
provolone sandwich. The humidity has my fridge desperately needing
defrosted as well. I suppose it's all better than snow, however.
Years ago I used to do a lot of home canning. I didn't have A/C, and I'd often choose the hottest days to can. It would be SO hot that it would be a "transcedental" experience - and accompanied by LOTS of ice - cold beer...

Couldn't do that now, I'd surely croak...

Oh so now, you choose to go to the stores like a normal person.



When we’re going through challenges, the devil likes to keep putting in our heads, “I can’t do this. It’s too hard. I can’t take it.” I just want to tell you that you are stronger than you think you are!

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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