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On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 14:18:32 -0500, Hank Rogers >
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>Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 12:39:32 -0500, "cshenk"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:55:04 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/12/2021 7:22 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this just an Austin, Texas phenomenon, or do a lot of
>>>>>>>> people in other states take their obviously non-service dogs
>>>>>>>> into grocery stores too?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some dogs sit in carts or the baby seats, some get blankets
>>>>>>>> to make them comfy, some are being clutched to chests, some
>>>>>>>> peek out of purses, and even others are on 8-14 foot leashes
>>>>>>>> - sometimes 2 or 3 wide at a time in the aisles so nobody can
>>>>>>>> get past them. And any number of them can be barking,
>>>>>>>> yapping, or growling at other customers or dogs at any given
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this just as common in others cities and states? Do you or
>>>>>>>> somebody you know take your non-service dog into a grocery
>>>>>>>> store? Why?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never seen it here. Our folks are a bit more saavy on such and
>>>>>>> do not allow them in. Randomly though you do hear of emotional
>>>>>>> support animals causing problems at the beach. Gary may know if
>>>>>>> it's common.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did see a "service dog" in my beach Harris Teeter grocery store
>>>>>> about 6 months ago. I talked with the woman for a few minutes
>>>>>> too. Nice lady, nice little furry (fur over eyes) white dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note: it wasn't some official service dog. That's what she was
>>>>>> calling it. lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had no problem with the dog in the store but others might have.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have my reservations about all this support/service animal crap
>>>>>> though. It's just continuing liberal nonsense that we should
>>>>>> accept any weirdo as "normal."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMO, if you can't even go to a store without your pet by your
>>>>>> side, stay home and order everything to be delivered. Even
>>>>>> better...let your pet order the food while you sit nearby in a
>>>>>> chair softly crying over daily stress.
>>>>> LOL, ok that's 2 at Harris Teeters (your's by the beach) but your's
>>>>> is a lady and mine is a guy also named Gary with a bonified Service
>>>>> guide dog. I'm with it on the actual service animal.
>>>>>
>>>>> The 'support animals' are pretty much bogus due to a lot of abuse
>>>>> of the system.
>>>>
>>>> I don't mind dogs, they should go wherever they want. Cats OTOH, I
>>>> don't care for them much. OTOH, Taiyo helped me catch a large
>>>> centipede this morning. He spotted it and I put it in a bucket. I
>>>> threw that critter onto the parking lot, in the midst of some
>>>> chicken. One chicken grabbed it and went all over the lot keeping it
>>>> away from the other chickens. God, I love chickens and dogs.
>>>
>>> LOL! That would have been fun to watch!

>>
>>
>> Since childhood I've seen many seeing eye dogs, people with a white
>> cane and a harnessed dog, typically a large dog. Normal people know
>> to give them wide birth. Growing up in NY City there were lots of
>> seeing eye dogs, in streets, stores, public transportation,
>> everywhere. Even here in the boonies there are lots of seeing eye
>> dogs and other service dogs.
>> I see service dogs every time I go into town. They are low key and
>> never bothersome, they are well trained and know their job.
>> Everyone be very thankful that you don't need a service dog. I've
>> learned that there's really no difference between a service dog and a
>> farm dog that sees to the herd. I've seen a small sheltie round up 50
>> black angus and move them field to field to feed. It's really quite
>> amazing to see these dogs do their job.
>>

>
>Popeye, did those dogs have enormous titties?
>

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 14:24:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
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>On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:12:42 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:31:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >On 6/14/2021 2:13 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 22:38:59 -0500, "cshenk"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> heyjoe wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 14:59:55 -0500
>> >>>> in Message-ID: >
>> >>>> cshenk wrote :
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> if it's an actual service animal (not 'support')
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I could be wrong, but folks using true service dogs are covered by the
>> >>>> ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) which is Federal law. A store
>> >>>> owner may not refuse to let those animals in the store, unless they
>> >>>> want the full weight of the Feds to come down on them for refusal.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Support" animals are a different ball game.
>> >>>
>> >>> Exactly. Support animals have *no* training requirements at all. WE do
>> >>> have *service* level trained dogs for PTSD you know....
>> >>
>> >> These days, I don't leave the house much anymore. I'm too afraid to
>> >> walk into a support animal.
>> >
>> >Modern times have gone all to hell. No matter what you do or don't do,
>> >someone will have a problem with it.

>> Yes, being offended has become a favourite pastime.
>>
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>
>It's a problem.
>
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 14:24:28 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
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>On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:12:42 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:31:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >On 6/14/2021 2:13 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 22:38:59 -0500, "cshenk"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> heyjoe wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 14:59:55 -0500
>> >>>> in Message-ID: >
>> >>>> cshenk wrote :
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> if it's an actual service animal (not 'support')
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I could be wrong, but folks using true service dogs are covered by the
>> >>>> ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) which is Federal law. A store
>> >>>> owner may not refuse to let those animals in the store, unless they
>> >>>> want the full weight of the Feds to come down on them for refusal.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Support" animals are a different ball game.
>> >>>
>> >>> Exactly. Support animals have *no* training requirements at all. WE do
>> >>> have *service* level trained dogs for PTSD you know....
>> >>
>> >> These days, I don't leave the house much anymore. I'm too afraid to
>> >> walk into a support animal.
>> >
>> >Modern times have gone all to hell. No matter what you do or don't do,
>> >someone will have a problem with it.

>> Yes, being offended has become a favourite pastime.
>>
>> --
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>
>It's a problem.
>
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 07:14:51 +1000, Dave Smith >
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>On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:06:17 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 6/14/2021 8:31 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> On 6/14/2021 2:13 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These days, I don't leave the house much anymore.* I'm too afraid to
>>>> walk into a support animal.
>>>
>>> Modern times have gone all to hell.* No matter what you do or don't do,
>>> someone will have a problem with it.
>>>

>>"Our" Dave didn't write that, Gary. It was one of the forgers who uses
>>aioe.

>
>You missed it, but Gary probably saw that the post was signed "Bruce".
>So much for forging, you dummy.

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 07:12:05 +1000, Dave Smith >
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>On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 14:02:05 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:
>
>>On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:02:51 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-06-13 8:26 a.m., Gary wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I did see a "service dog" in my beach Harris Teeter grocery store about
>>> > 6 months ago. I talked with the woman for a few minutes too. Nice lady,
>>> > nice little furry (fur over eyes) white dog.
>>> >
>>> > Note: it wasn't some official service dog. That's what she was calling
>>> > it. lol
>>> >
>>> > I had no problem with the dog in the store but others might have.
>>> Not everyone likes to have dog hair on their fresh produce or seeing dog
>>> shit or **** on the floors. I love dogs, but I don't want them around
>>> my food.
>>>

>>How much fun would it be to have a dog whistle, and when you see someone
>>with a non-service dog, discreetly blow it, and get the dog all riled up. Miss
>>legally blonde would be clueless as to why her little pookie was acting up.

>
>14 year old fun.

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 14:02:05 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
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>On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 10:02:51 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-06-13 8:26 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> > On 6/12/2021 7:22 PM, cshenk wrote:
>> >> Sqwertz wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Is this just an Austin, Texas phenomenon, or do a lot of people in
>> >>> other states take their obviously non-service dogs into grocery
>> >>> stores too?
>> >>>
>> >>> Some dogs sit in carts or the baby seats, some get blankets to make
>> >>> them comfy, some are being clutched to chests, some peek out of
>> >>> purses, and even others are on 8-14 foot leashes - sometimes 2 or 3
>> >>> wide at a time in the aisles so nobody can get past them. And any
>> >>> number of them can be barking, yapping, or growling at other
>> >>> customers or dogs at any given time.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is this just as common in others cities and states? Do you or
>> >>> somebody you know take your non-service dog into a grocery store?
>> >>> Why?
>> >>>
>> >>> -sw
>> >>
>> >> Never seen it here. Our folks are a bit more saavy on such and do not
>> >> allow them in. Randomly though you do hear of emotional support
>> >> animals causing problems at the beach. Gary may know if it's common.
>> >
>> > I did see a "service dog" in my beach Harris Teeter grocery store about
>> > 6 months ago. I talked with the woman for a few minutes too. Nice lady,
>> > nice little furry (fur over eyes) white dog.
>> >
>> > Note: it wasn't some official service dog. That's what she was calling
>> > it. lol
>> >
>> > I had no problem with the dog in the store but others might have.

>> Not everyone likes to have dog hair on their fresh produce or seeing dog
>> shit or **** on the floors. I love dogs, but I don't want them around
>> my food.
>>

>How much fun would it be to have a dog whistle, and when you see someone
>with a non-service dog, discreetly blow it, and get the dog all riled up. Miss
>legally blonde would be clueless as to why her little pookie was acting up.
>>

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On 2021-06-14 5:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:12:42 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:31:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:


>>>> These days, I don't leave the house much anymore. I'm too afraid to
>>>> walk into a support animal.
>>>
>>> Modern times have gone all to hell. No matter what you do or don't do,
>>> someone will have a problem with it.

>> Yes, being offended has become a favourite pastime.
>>
>> --
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>
> It's a problem.
>
>



Part of the problem is that they tend to cater to bitchers and whiners
these trying to capitalize on human rights issues. Some jurisdictions
have dealt with the issue by required service dogs to be trained and
certified by government officials. The province of British Columbia has
done that. Businesses can ask people to show the animal's certificate,
and people who use fake certificates can be fined up to $50,000.
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 Dave Smith wrote:
>On 2021-06-14 5:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:12:42 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:31:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>> These days, I don't leave the house much anymore. I'm too afraid to
>>>>> walk into a support animal.
>>>>
>>>> Modern times have gone all to hell. No matter what you do or don't do,
>>>> someone will have a problem with it.
>>> Yes, being offended has become a favourite pastime.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bruce

>>
>> It's a problem.

>Part of the problem is that they tend to cater to bitchers and whiners
>these trying to capitalize on human rights issues. Some jurisdictions
>have dealt with the issue by required service dogs to be trained and
>certified by government officials. The province of British Columbia has
>done that. Businesses can ask people to show the animal's certificate,
>and people who use fake certificates can be fined up to $50,000.


Where I live service dogs are not a problem. People respect the need.
Service dogs are considered the same as farm dogs that herd animals.
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On 2021-06-14 6:45 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 Dave Smith wrote:


>>> It's a problem.

>> Part of the problem is that they tend to cater to bitchers and whiners
>> these trying to capitalize on human rights issues. Some jurisdictions
>> have dealt with the issue by required service dogs to be trained and
>> certified by government officials. The province of British Columbia has
>> done that. Businesses can ask people to show the animal's certificate,
>> and people who use fake certificates can be fined up to $50,000.

>
> Where I live service dogs are not a problem. People respect the need.
> Service dogs are considered the same as farm dogs that herd animals.
>


Are you referring to real service dogs or the special people with pets
who pretend they are service dogs?
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On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 18:45:23 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
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>On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 Dave Smith wrote:
>>On 2021-06-14 5:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:12:42 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:31:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Modern times have gone all to hell. No matter what you do or don't do,
>>>>> someone will have a problem with it.
>>>> Yes, being offended has become a favourite pastime.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>
>>> It's a problem.

>>Part of the problem is that they tend to cater to bitchers and whiners
>>these trying to capitalize on human rights issues. Some jurisdictions
>>have dealt with the issue by required service dogs to be trained and
>>certified by government officials. The province of British Columbia has
>>done that. Businesses can ask people to show the animal's certificate,
>>and people who use fake certificates can be fined up to $50,000.

>
>Where I live service dogs are not a problem. People respect the need.
>Service dogs are considered the same as farm dogs that herd animals.


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On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 18:54:33 -0400, Dave Smith
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>On 2021-06-14 6:45 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 Dave Smith wrote:

>
>>>> It's a problem.
>>> Part of the problem is that they tend to cater to bitchers and whiners
>>> these trying to capitalize on human rights issues. Some jurisdictions
>>> have dealt with the issue by required service dogs to be trained and
>>> certified by government officials. The province of British Columbia has
>>> done that. Businesses can ask people to show the animal's certificate,
>>> and people who use fake certificates can be fined up to $50,000.

>>
>> Where I live service dogs are not a problem. People respect the need.
>> Service dogs are considered the same as farm dogs that herd animals.
>>

>
>Are you referring to real service dogs or the special people with pets
>who pretend they are service dogs?


This was an excerpt from "My Life with the Green-Eyed Monster, a
Journey", by Dave "Pickleball" Smith.
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On 6/14/2021 6:34 PM, heyjoe wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:06:17 -0400
> in Message-ID: >
> jmcquown wrote :
>
>> "Our" Dave didn't write that, Gary. It was one of the forgers who uses
>> aioe.

>
> It just could be that Gary has it figured out. See this article,
> Message-ID: >
>

Nawww, lot of people have a don't email me designation.

> Maybe somebody has figured out why "Bruce" is frogging Dave Smith. A
> third grade explanation would not be insulting. However, a reply from
> "Bruce" would be just more noise for the killfile (and probably a weasel
> answer, full of untruths).
>

I've given up trying to figure out frogging anyone. It's all too stupid.

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On 2021-06-13, Bruce > wrote:

> That's rather crude, insensitive and narrow-minded, but then we all
> have our weaker moments.


It has been my experience, over my lifetime, that when one asks me to
keep an open mind, they are really telling me to "Think like them". The
hell with that!
If you disagree, you're being narrow-minded. See how that works?

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Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2021-06-13, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> That's rather crude, insensitive and narrow-minded, but then we all
>> have our weaker moments.

>
> It has been my experience, over my lifetime, that when one asks me to
> keep an open mind, they are really telling me to "Think like them". The
> hell with that!
> If you disagree, you're being narrow-minded. See how that works?
>
> leo
>


Master doctor druce was just distracting you, while vigorously
sniffing your ass.


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On 15 Jun 2021 00:20:26 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
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>On 2021-06-13, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> That's rather crude, insensitive and narrow-minded, but then we all
>> have our weaker moments.

>
>It has been my experience, over my lifetime, that when one asks me to
>keep an open mind, they are really telling me to "Think like them". The
>hell with that!


Bloody Marxists!

>If you disagree, you're being narrow-minded. See how that works?


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>On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 7:34:15 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 08:26:46 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >I did see a "service dog" in my beach Harris Teeter grocery store about
>> >6 months ago. I talked with the woman for a few minutes too. Nice lady,
>> >nice little furry (fur over eyes) white dog.
>> >
>> >Note: it wasn't some official service dog. That's what she was calling
>> >it. lol
>> >
>> >I had no problem with the dog in the store but others might have.
>> >
>> >I have my reservations about all this support/service animal crap
>> >though. It's just continuing liberal nonsense that we should accept any
>> >weirdo as "normal."

>> We should accept every "weirdo" and I do. But I do wish the "weirdos"
>> would stop their attention seeking. Just because 0.001% of the
>> population don't know if they're a man or a woman is no reason to
>> change all public toilets to gender neutral.
>>

>If there were fully enclosed toileting stalls then the issue would be a
>non issue. I even think that there's a good chance that handwashing
>habits would improve if the sink area was unisex.
>>
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>>

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 06:12:37 +1000, Dave Smith >
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>On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:31:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>On 6/14/2021 2:13 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 22:38:59 -0500, "cshenk"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> heyjoe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 14:59:55 -0500
>>>>> in Message-ID: >
>>>>> cshenk wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>> if it's an actual service animal (not 'support')
>>>>>
>>>>> I could be wrong, but folks using true service dogs are covered by the
>>>>> ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) which is Federal law. A store
>>>>> owner may not refuse to let those animals in the store, unless they
>>>>> want the full weight of the Feds to come down on them for refusal.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Support" animals are a different ball game.
>>>>
>>>> Exactly. Support animals have *no* training requirements at all. WE do
>>>> have *service* level trained dogs for PTSD you know....
>>>
>>> These days, I don't leave the house much anymore. I'm too afraid to
>>> walk into a support animal.

>>
>>Modern times have gone all to hell. No matter what you do or don't do,
>>someone will have a problem with it.

>
>Yes, being offended has become a favourite pastime.

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 12:28:35 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
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>On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 7:39:44 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>
>> LOL! That would have been fun to watch!

>
>We know how to have a good ole time in my town!
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FikZwgj89HI

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 15:04:32 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
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>On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 12:39:32 -0500, "cshenk"
> wrote:
>
>>dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, June 13, 2021 at 9:55:04 AM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>> > Gary wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > On 6/12/2021 7:22 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> > > > Sqwertz wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Is this just an Austin, Texas phenomenon, or do a lot of
>>> > > > > people in other states take their obviously non-service dogs
>>> > > > > into grocery stores too?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Some dogs sit in carts or the baby seats, some get blankets
>>> > > > > to make them comfy, some are being clutched to chests, some
>>> > > > > peek out of purses, and even others are on 8-14 foot leashes
>>> > > > > - sometimes 2 or 3 wide at a time in the aisles so nobody can
>>> > > > > get past them. And any number of them can be barking,
>>> > > > > yapping, or growling at other customers or dogs at any given
>>> > > > > time.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Is this just as common in others cities and states? Do you or
>>> > > > > somebody you know take your non-service dog into a grocery
>>> > > > > store? Why?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > -sw
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Never seen it here. Our folks are a bit more saavy on such and
>>> > > > do not allow them in. Randomly though you do hear of emotional
>>> > > > support animals causing problems at the beach. Gary may know if
>>> > > > it's common.
>>> > >
>>> > > I did see a "service dog" in my beach Harris Teeter grocery store
>>> > > about 6 months ago. I talked with the woman for a few minutes
>>> > > too. Nice lady, nice little furry (fur over eyes) white dog.
>>> > >
>>> > > Note: it wasn't some official service dog. That's what she was
>>> > > calling it. lol
>>> > >
>>> > > I had no problem with the dog in the store but others might have.
>>> > >
>>> > > I have my reservations about all this support/service animal crap
>>> > > though. It's just continuing liberal nonsense that we should
>>> > > accept any weirdo as "normal."
>>> > >
>>> > > IMO, if you can't even go to a store without your pet by your
>>> > > side, stay home and order everything to be delivered. Even
>>> > > better...let your pet order the food while you sit nearby in a
>>> > > chair softly crying over daily stress.
>>> > LOL, ok that's 2 at Harris Teeters (your's by the beach) but your's
>>> > is a lady and mine is a guy also named Gary with a bonified Service
>>> > guide dog. I'm with it on the actual service animal.
>>> >
>>> > The 'support animals' are pretty much bogus due to a lot of abuse
>>> > of the system.
>>>
>>> I don't mind dogs, they should go wherever they want. Cats OTOH, I
>>> don't care for them much. OTOH, Taiyo helped me catch a large
>>> centipede this morning. He spotted it and I put it in a bucket. I
>>> threw that critter onto the parking lot, in the midst of some
>>> chicken. One chicken grabbed it and went all over the lot keeping it
>>> away from the other chickens. God, I love chickens and dogs.

>>
>>LOL! That would have been fun to watch!

>
>
>Since childhood I've seen many seeing eye dogs, people with a white
>cane and a harnessed dog, typically a large dog. Normal people know
>to give them wide birth. Growing up in NY City there were lots of
>seeing eye dogs, in streets, stores, public transportation,
>everywhere. Even here in the boonies there are lots of seeing eye
>dogs and other service dogs.
>I see service dogs every time I go into town. They are low key and
>never bothersome, they are well trained and know their job.
>Everyone be very thankful that you don't need a service dog. I've
>learned that there's really no difference between a service dog and a
>farm dog that sees to the herd. I've seen a small sheltie round up 50
>black angus and move them field to field to feed. It's really quite
>amazing to see these dogs do their job.

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 14:01:01 -0500, "cshenk"
> wrote:

>US Janet wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 22:27:41 -0500, "cshenk"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > US Janet wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 14:54:54 -0500, "cshenk"
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> snip
>> >> >
>> >> > The 'support animals' are pretty much bogus due to a lot of

>> abuse of >> > the system.
>> >>
>> >> I hope that you aren't voicing that opinion elsewhere. You, and

>> none >> of us have the ability to judge the need for a support
>> animal. PTSD >> isn't limited to ex-military and the need for a
>> support animal isn't >> limited to PTSD. Specialty dogs are trained
>> for all sorts of needs. >> I guess we all just need to be kind and
>> understanding. >> Janet US
>> >
>> > No, too many have abused that 'support animal' now. Sorry, but
>> > while a few are well trained, so many are not and they have been
>> > known to bite people on airplanes who were forced to sit with them.

>>
>> I am sure that is a big statistic. I will not refuse solace to
>> someone who needs it,
>> Janet US

>
>Oh I don't mind them, but if badly behaved, they can be dangerous in
>the wrong setting.
>
>What doesn't bother me? A small one in the child seat of a cart.
>Harmless and if it comforts the owner, I'm all for it.

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 06:12:37 +1000, Dave Smith >
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>On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:31:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>On 6/14/2021 2:13 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 22:38:59 -0500, "cshenk"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> heyjoe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 14:59:55 -0500
>>>>> in Message-ID: >
>>>>> cshenk wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>>> if it's an actual service animal (not 'support')
>>>>>
>>>>> I could be wrong, but folks using true service dogs are covered by the
>>>>> ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) which is Federal law. A store
>>>>> owner may not refuse to let those animals in the store, unless they
>>>>> want the full weight of the Feds to come down on them for refusal.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Support" animals are a different ball game.
>>>>
>>>> Exactly. Support animals have *no* training requirements at all. WE do
>>>> have *service* level trained dogs for PTSD you know....
>>>
>>> These days, I don't leave the house much anymore. I'm too afraid to
>>> walk into a support animal.

>>
>>Modern times have gone all to hell. No matter what you do or don't do,
>>someone will have a problem with it.

>
>Yes, being offended has become a favourite pastime.

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On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 6:24:12 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-06-14 5:24 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, June 14, 2021 at 10:12:42 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 08:31:31 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>
> >>>> These days, I don't leave the house much anymore. I'm too afraid to
> >>>> walk into a support animal.
> >>>
> >>> Modern times have gone all to hell. No matter what you do or don't do,
> >>> someone will have a problem with it.
> >> Yes, being offended has become a favourite pastime.
> >>
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> >
> > It's a problem.
> >
> >

> Part of the problem is that they tend to cater to bitchers and whiners


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