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sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Can you buy it powdered or
mashed? I looked, but didn't see it. I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. It works, but a lot goes flying. Is rosemary like bay leaf, intended to be cooked whole, then filtered out of the final dish? And IF I do crunch some up, and put it in the pork roast marinade (which I did tonight for tomorrow's meal), are the particles bitter, or do they dominate the taste? Tips on rosemary and its uses appreciated. No jokes about the real Rosemary, as I once dated her, and she was up for ANYTHING. Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote: sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Can you buy it powdered or mashed? I looked, but didn't see it. I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. It works, but a lot goes flying. Is rosemary like bay leaf, intended to be cooked whole, then filtered out of the final dish? And IF I do crunch some up, and put it in the pork roast marinade (which I did tonight for tomorrow's meal), are the particles bitter, or do they dominate the taste? Tips on rosemary and its uses appreciated. No jokes about the real Rosemary, as I once dated her, and she was up for ANYTHING. I buy my rosemary from Penzeys: http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penze...srosemary.html I like to use the whole. The cracked is convenient when you don't want those big needles in the finished dish, although I am happy to eat them. Since the powdered doesn't keep that well, and I don't use it that often, I grind the needles, whole or cracked, in my mortar and pestle. They don't fly around if you are careful. -- Dan Abel Petaluma, California USA |
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"Steve B" wrote: Is rosemary like bay leaf, intended to be cooked whole, then filtered out of the final dish? No. I eat it in rosemary potatoes quite frequently. Rosemary has a distinct piney but pleasant flavor. It's powerful, and a little goes a long way. I usually rub dried rosemary between my hands before using it. On the other hand, I wouldn't eat the sprig they serve as a garnish occasionally. And, my experience is limited. Garlic-rosemary potatoes is my main use for it. But I love those. leo |
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![]() "Steve B" wrote in message ... sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Fresh Market sells it ground. |
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Dan Abel wrote:
In article , "Steve B" wrote: sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Can you buy it powdered or mashed? I looked, but didn't see it. I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. It works, but a lot goes flying. Is rosemary like bay leaf, intended to be cooked whole, then filtered out of the final dish? And IF I do crunch some up, and put it in the pork roast marinade (which I did tonight for tomorrow's meal), are the particles bitter, or do they dominate the taste? Tips on rosemary and its uses appreciated. No jokes about the real Rosemary, as I once dated her, and she was up for ANYTHING. I buy my rosemary from Penzeys: http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penze...srosemary.html I like to use the whole. The cracked is convenient when you don't want those big needles in the finished dish, although I am happy to eat them. Since the powdered doesn't keep that well, and I don't use it that often, I grind the needles, whole or cracked, in my mortar and pestle. They don't fly around if you are careful. I have a rosemary bush in my yard and often when I'm BBQing I'll throw a branch of the rosemary on the fire. Adds some good smells and taste. |
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Steve B wrote:
sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Can you buy it powdered or mashed? I looked, but didn't see it. I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. It works, but a lot goes flying. If you dry out rosemary leaves they curl up and get nasty. They also lose their essential oil in addition to their water unless you know exactly how to dry them. And so I get them by the twig off the plant on the patio and hang the twig to dry. Then I mash the leaves just before use if I don't want the leaves intact. Is rosemary like bay leaf, intended to be cooked whole, then filtered out of the final dish? Nope. Rosemary leaves are delicious. And IF I do crunch some up, and put it in the pork roast marinade (which I did tonight for tomorrow's meal), are the particles bitter, or do they dominate the taste? The oil tends to flow into the rest of the food making the particles relatively mild. Tips on rosemary and its uses appreciated. It rules in baked goods,stews. If you live in southern California rosemary is planted on the sides of the freeways. The stuff grows like kudzu and occasionally they feed it wrecked cars as fertilizer. The stuff on the freeway side doesn't have much aroma so I figure it isn't as tastey as the stuff that grows int he yard. I don't know if that's because it is under watered or over polluted or wrecked cars are crappy fertilizer. ;^) |
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![]() Steve B wrote: sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Can you buy it powdered or mashed? I looked, but didn't see it. I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. It works, but a lot goes flying. It's sold in it's natural form LOL. Just put them in a cloth bag, cook your dish and remove the bag. Is rosemary like bay leaf, intended to be cooked whole, then filtered out of the final dish? Personal preference really. Powdered herbs and spices are obviously subject to adulteration. Buying the whole needle rosemary (or whole peppercorns, nutmeg etc) is better. We just go out to the back garden and cut off a sprig of rosemary and strip the needles off that ![]() And IF I do crunch some up, and put it in the pork roast marinade (which I did tonight for tomorrow's meal), are the particles bitter, or do they dominate the taste? No need to break them up at all. They will release their flavour oils into the marinade. Just brush them off prior to roasting. They will dominate the taste only if too much was used. |
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![]() "Jim Davis" wrote in message et... Dan Abel wrote: In article , "Steve B" wrote: sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Can you buy it powdered or mashed? I looked, but didn't see it. I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. It works, but a lot goes flying. Is rosemary like bay leaf, intended to be cooked whole, then filtered out of the final dish? And IF I do crunch some up, and put it in the pork roast marinade (which I did tonight for tomorrow's meal), are the particles bitter, or do they dominate the taste? Tips on rosemary and its uses appreciated. No jokes about the real Rosemary, as I once dated her, and she was up for ANYTHING. I buy my rosemary from Penzeys: http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penze...srosemary.html I like to use the whole. The cracked is convenient when you don't want those big needles in the finished dish, although I am happy to eat them. Since the powdered doesn't keep that well, and I don't use it that often, I grind the needles, whole or cracked, in my mortar and pestle. They don't fly around if you are careful. I have a rosemary bush in my yard and often when I'm BBQing I'll throw a branch of the rosemary on the fire. Adds some good smells and taste. Have you ever used rosemary branches for the skewers for shish-kabobing meat or seafood? -g |
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Ginny wrote:
Have you ever used rosemary branches for the skewers for shish-kabobing meat or seafood? They work very well for skewering chicken breasts. If you leave a bunch of leaves at the end, it looks decorative on the plate, too. Bob |
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On Dec 25, 6:20*pm, Doug Freyburger wrote:
Steve B wrote: sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? *Can you buy it powdered or mashed? *I looked, but didn't see it. *I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. *It works, but a lot goes flying. If you dry out rosemary leaves they curl up and get nasty. *They also lose their essential oil in addition to their water unless you know exactly how to dry them. Rosemary is so much better fresh. Of all the herbs I use, it's the one I don't even bother with buying dried. |
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On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:30:12 -0800, Mark Thorson
wrote: Steve B wrote: sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Can you buy it powdered or mashed? I looked, but didn't see it. I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. It works, but a lot goes flying. If you know what the plant looks like, you can probably find some for free at a local park, library, school, or supermarket parking lot. It's commonly used as a hedge. Around here, Mark. Steve B may live where cold and snow kills rosemary in the winter. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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sf wrote:
If you know what the plant looks like, you can probably find some for free at a local park, library, school, or supermarket parking lot. It's commonly used as a hedge. Around here, Mark. Steve B may live where cold and snow kills rosemary in the winter. Apparently it can withstand temperatures down to +10F. While most of our winter weather is above 10, it does occasionally drop down close to 0, and occasionally even colder. I guess that explains why I have to plant it every year, but the plants are cheap enough and one is more than enough for my purposes. I like it in lamb and pork and a little rosemary is great on roasted potatoes. |
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:16:47 -0800, sf wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:30:12 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote: Steve B wrote: sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Can you buy it powdered or mashed? I looked, but didn't see it. I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. It works, but a lot goes flying. If you know what the plant looks like, you can probably find some for free at a local park, library, school, or supermarket parking lot. It's commonly used as a hedge. Around here, Mark. Steve B may live where cold and snow kills rosemary in the winter. Mine is looking just fine after 8" of snow last week, some of which is still on the ground and below freezing every night since the snow. I have 2 good sized ones. One is 4' plus planted next to a fence and the other is about 2 feet and in a planter. The taller one was about 6" and scrawny when I set it out 5 years ago. The other was in a 3" pot I bought at the farmers market a year later. They are pretty hearty. -- Susan N. "Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral, 48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy." Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974) |
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:16:47 -0800, sf wrote:
On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:30:12 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote: Steve B wrote: sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Can you buy it powdered or mashed? I looked, but didn't see it. I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. It works, but a lot goes flying. If you know what the plant looks like, you can probably find some for free at a local park, library, school, or supermarket parking lot. It's commonly used as a hedge. Around here, Mark. Steve B may live where cold and snow kills rosemary in the winter. Rosemary won't survive NY winters. But I despise the flavor rosemary adds to food... may as well use spruce tree. Rosemary would work better as Glade terlit deodorizer. |
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On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 14:41:15 -0500, The Cook
wrote: On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:16:47 -0800, sf wrote: On Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:30:12 -0800, Mark Thorson wrote: Steve B wrote: sold only in little pine needle shaped leaves? Can you buy it powdered or mashed? I looked, but didn't see it. I have an ulu with a cutting board made for it that has a depression in it matching the ulu. It works, but a lot goes flying. If you know what the plant looks like, you can probably find some for free at a local park, library, school, or supermarket parking lot. It's commonly used as a hedge. Around here, Mark. Steve B may live where cold and snow kills rosemary in the winter. Mine is looking just fine after 8" of snow last week, That snow means nothing to rosemary plants depending where you live and what temperature are you talking... there was lots of snow in the Caroliners last week. Rosemary will survive an occasional cold snap but not a prolonged hard freeze. I've tried planting rosemary as an ornamental shrub, but even on Lung Guyland it won't survive the relatively mild winters. Here in the Catskills there are long spells of temperatures below zero, almost always a few weeks of a steady -20ºF. Anyway, if I wanted my food to taste like Pinesol I have thousands of Norway spruce... one of the few plants deer won't eat and they devour most any greenery. And I'll drink any rot gut booze but not retsina, that's no different from rosemary. I don't cook with mint either, when I want mint I brush my teeth... I don't like creme de menthe either. Actually for the past few years I've been using Tom's of Maine toothpaste, fennel flavor is excellent. |
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