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I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week.
I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed.
The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.
Anyone??

Thanks......Sharon

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I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week.
I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed.
The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.
Anyone??

Thanks......Sharon



Use less next time.


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I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week.
I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed.
The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.



I've never heard of too much tomato flavor.

:-)

I don't have a good answer for you, but I don't think there is that much
difference in taste, just texture. Sounds like you should just use
less, of either one.
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:56:27 -0500, biig wrote:


I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week.
I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed.
The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.
Anyone??

Sharon, the whole tomatoes would have been crushed eventually, but
they would still be in big hunks.

I use crushed tomatoes in place of tomato sauce because it has a
fresher flavor. Too bad the experiment didn't work out for you, but
now you know that you won't add the entire can of crushed tomatoes
next time. I'd add it 1/4 C at a time.

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In article , biig wrote:

I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week.
I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed.
The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.
Anyone??

Thanks......Sharon


Apparently there is. :-)
Next time use less. I use tomato powder (quantity at my discretion) for
tomato flavor in stuff like that. Or juice. And I don't ever measure
anything when making soup so maybe the poster of that recipe doesn't
measure but was just guessing at amounts -- and guessed wrong for some
of the measures. (I haven't looked at the recipe.)

Was this vegetable soup with barley? When I do that, I cook the beef
bones first with a bay leaf, celery and onion, s&p, then drain and toss
the veggies. I separate the meat from the bones and chill the broth for
easy removal of the layer of fat. If I use barley in the soup, I cook
it first, drain, and add it near the end of the cook time. Vegetables
are typically celery, carrot, onion, green beans, peas, corn, maybe
cabbage. A little tomato powder added to the beef broth. I add the
meat towards the end of the cook time. I made a killer batch of it a
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biig wrote:
I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week.
I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed.
The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.
Anyone??

Thanks......Sharon


A large can of crushed tomatoes represents quite a few more whole
tomatoes (crushed) than would be in a can of actual "whole tomatoes".
So essentially you added too many tomatoes to your soup. As Joe
said...use less next time or just be sure you have what you need for
your recipe before you begin to make it. I see that quite a bit around
these parts--that is, people not being "mise en place" and scrambling
to make substitutions. And then they wonder why it doesn't taste
good..or taste the same. *shrugs* Shop before you chop!

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"biig" schreef in bericht ...

I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week.
I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed.
The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.
Anyone??

Thanks......Sharon


In my part of the world, those 2 kinds of canned tomatoes ARE different. The
calorie count is different (crushed is higher), which leads me to suspect
there's less juice and more solids in a can of crushed tomatoes.

Even moreso with sieved/pureed tomatoes from those tetrapaks.


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"biig" schreef in bericht
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I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last
week. I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of
crushed. The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much
difference in the tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots
of sliced cabbage and that helped, but it still had too much tomato
flavour for my taste. Anyone??

Thanks......Sharon


In my part of the world, those 2 kinds of canned tomatoes ARE
different. The calorie count is different (crushed is higher), which
leads me to suspect there's less juice and more solids in a can of
crushed tomatoes.


Whole tomatoes are typically packed in tomato juice, crushed tomatoes
in "puree", actually reconstituted tomato paste.



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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:56:27 -0500, biig wrote:


I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week.
I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed.
The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.
Anyone??

Thanks......Sharon


It was the amount of puree that did it.

Crushed tomatoes contain pureed tomatoes as well as the tomato chunks.
Whole canned tomatoes don't have as much puree; some have tomato juice
instead of puree. In any case, a lot of the volume is inside the
whole tomatoes so there is less room in the can for the puree.

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sf wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:56:27 -0500, biig wrote:

I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week.
I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed.
The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.
Anyone??

Sharon, the whole tomatoes would have been crushed eventually, but
they would still be in big hunks.


Perhaps the same sized can of whole tomatoes will probably hold less
whole tomatoes than a can of the smaller tomato bits that doesn't
contain extra liquid?


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Curly Sue wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:56:27 -0500, biig wrote:


I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week.
I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed.
The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.
Anyone??

Thanks......Sharon


It was the amount of puree that did it.

Thanks a bunch for all the answers. I don't use tomatoes in many recipes, but since so many people were raving about that recipe, I wanted to try it. Just didn't have any idea that crushed would be more concentrated than whole.....slapping my forehead....duh.... thanks again

.......Sharon
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sf wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 15:56:27 -0500, biig wrote:

I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last week. I
didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of crushed. The
soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much difference in the
tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots of sliced cabbage and
that helped, but it still had too much tomato flavour for my taste.
Anyone??

Sharon, the whole tomatoes would have been crushed eventually, but
they would still be in big hunks.


Perhaps the same sized can of whole tomatoes will probably hold less whole
tomatoes than a can of the smaller tomato bits that doesn't contain extra
liquid?


Time to break out the scale. Or, post 400 messages about it.


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"biig" schreef in bericht
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I made a pot of the Beef Barley Soup that was posted here last
week. I didn't have whole canned tomatoes, so substituted a can of
crushed. The soup was waaaay too tomatoey. Is there that much
difference in the tomato content? I added more beef broth and lots
of sliced cabbage and that helped, but it still had too much tomato
flavour for my taste. Anyone??

Thanks......Sharon


In my part of the world, those 2 kinds of canned tomatoes ARE
different. The calorie count is different (crushed is higher), which
leads me to suspect there's less juice and more solids in a can of
crushed tomatoes.


Whole tomatoes are typically packed in tomato juice, crushed tomatoes
in "puree", actually reconstituted tomato paste.


Good to knowo. It helps to expain the very high sodium content the puree in
my cupboard has. Too high for most of my cooking purposes, as I recently
discovered. Back to the cans


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So what's the difference between diced and petite tomatoes? They look
the same to me.
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Scott wrote:


So what's the difference between diced and petite tomatoes? They look
the same to me.


Petite diced tomatoes are just a smaller dice. Almost chopped.



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