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Either the bread has gotten larger (which I doubt) or the toaster
manufactures have been downsizing the toasters over the years. I've
replace mine twice now and I still find part of the bread shows over
the toaster top and doesn't get toasted. In an age of conserving
energy, having to flip the bread around and toast it a second time
doesn't make 'cents'.
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> Either the bread has gotten larger (which I doubt) or the toaster
> manufactures have been downsizing the toasters over the years. I've
> replace mine twice now and I still find part of the bread shows over
> the toaster top and doesn't get toasted. In an age of conserving
> energy, having to flip the bread around and toast it a second time
> doesn't make 'cents'.


Never had to do that with normal sized white bread, only for larger loaves
of Italian or other similar styles. Do you have a good brand of hte $7 made
in China from Wal Mart? Well, most all are made in China except the very
expensive Dualit from England.


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On Aug 18, 4:44*pm, pltrgyst > wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:49:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
> >Either the bread has gotten larger (which I doubt) or the toaster
> >manufactures have been downsizing the toasters over the years. I've
> >replace mine twice now and I still find part of the bread shows over
> >the toaster top and doesn't get toasted. In an age of conserving
> >energy, having to flip the bread around and toast it a second time
> >doesn't make 'cents'.

>
> True. It's a strong argument for a toaster/oven.
>
> Wonder if anyone in the world makes the old type of manual electric toaster any
> more -- shaped in profile like the letter "A", with a door on each side. We used
> to make the greatest toasted cheese sandwiches in ours when I was a kid....
>
> -- Larry



I believe I saw this type of toaster twice in the last ten-15 years;
as I recall, they were in a hotel restaurant, the kind of hotel
restaurant where you can make your own toast in the a.m. I'm sure
they'll come back in style someday :-))

Dee Dee

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On Aug 18, 2:09*pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
> > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Either the bread has gotten larger (which I doubt) or the toaster
> > manufactures have been downsizing the toasters over the years. I've
> > replace mine twice now and I still find part of the bread shows over
> > the toaster top and doesn't get toasted. In an age of conserving
> > energy, having to flip the bread around and toast it a second time
> > doesn't make 'cents'.

>
> Never had to do that with normal sized white bread, only for larger loaves
> of Italian or other similar styles. *Do you have a good brand of hte $7 made
> in China from Wal Mart? *Well, most all are made in China except the very
> expensive Dualit from England.



Really Fun reading the Dualit reviews on Amazon. One 5* review says
this:

"I love the fact that operates completely different than any other
toaster out there. It's best to preheat it - but once you do you can
put in pieces of bread one right after another with consistant
results. None of the problems you have w/American toasters when they
get heated where the first piece is perfect, the next is too light,
and the next comes out more like a piece of bread and so on."


The Cusinart toaster I own is supposed to do this, and does to a
certain degree; but after 4 pieces of toast (two 2x), it always has
seemed to forget and the 3rd go-round comes out burnt at the same
setting.

a 1* review says this:
First of all, you MUST preheat it for a couple of minutes or it will
not toast.


I don't think I could abide the preheating a toaster either. I guess
I'll deal with the one I have now,

To the OP, concern about money vs. time when toasting and it doesn't
toast the whole part of the bread:
I do the same thing with bread I buy, but I just cut off the less
toasted for DH, he doesn't mind. But I like mine heavily toasted.

Another thingie: cut your bread to shape, put the edges in a bag for
crutons or breadcrumbs.

Sometimes if the bread (I make my own usually) has harder crust, cut
it off before toasting, which will make your piece more useable.

All these things are time consuming, but do not cost you 'cents.'

Dee Dee







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On Mon 18 Aug 2008 01:44:42p, pltrgyst told us...

> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:49:16 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
>
>>Either the bread has gotten larger (which I doubt) or the toaster
>>manufactures have been downsizing the toasters over the years. I've
>>replace mine twice now and I still find part of the bread shows over
>>the toaster top and doesn't get toasted. In an age of conserving
>>energy, having to flip the bread around and toast it a second time
>>doesn't make 'cents'.

>
> True. It's a strong argument for a toaster/oven.


Not really. I have owned numerous toaster-ovens and none of them made good
toast. They also took forever to toast the bread, and only worked
reasonably well if you flipped the bread over. They serve far better use
as a small oven or broiler.

> Wonder if anyone in the world makes the old type of manual electric
> toaster any more -- shaped in profile like the letter "A", with a door
> on each side. We used to make the greatest toasted cheese sandwiches in
> ours when I was a kid...


You can usually find some of these on eBay in good working condition:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-ART-DECC...OUSE-TURNOVER-
TOASTER_W0QQitemZ170249896224QQihZ007QQcategoryZ11 654QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ
1QQcmdZViewItem

OR

http://tinyurl.com/6lm2nc


> -- Larry


Wayne

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On Mon 18 Aug 2008 05:24:11p, Dee Dee told us...

> On Aug 18, 2:09*pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>>
>> ...
>>
>> > Either the bread has gotten larger (which I doubt) or the toaster
>> > manufactures have been downsizing the toasters over the years. I've
>> > replace mine twice now and I still find part of the bread shows over
>> > the toaster top and doesn't get toasted. In an age of conserving
>> > energy, having to flip the bread around and toast it a second time
>> > doesn't make 'cents'.

>>
>> Never had to do that with normal sized white bread, only for larger

loave
>> s of Italian or other similar styles. *Do you have a good brand of hte

$7
>> made in China from Wal Mart? *Well, most all are made in China except

the
>> ve ry expensive Dualit from England.

>
>
> Really Fun reading the Dualit reviews on Amazon. One 5* review says
> this:
>
> "I love the fact that operates completely different than any other
> toaster out there. It's best to preheat it - but once you do you can
> put in pieces of bread one right after another with consistant
> results. None of the problems you have w/American toasters when they
> get heated where the first piece is perfect, the next is too light,
> and the next comes out more like a piece of bread and so on."
>
>
> The Cusinart toaster I own is supposed to do this, and does to a
> certain degree; but after 4 pieces of toast (two 2x), it always has
> seemed to forget and the 3rd go-round comes out burnt at the same
> setting.
>
> a 1* review says this:
> First of all, you MUST preheat it for a couple of minutes or it will
> not toast.
>
>
> I don't think I could abide the preheating a toaster either. I guess
> I'll deal with the one I have now,
>
> To the OP, concern about money vs. time when toasting and it doesn't
> toast the whole part of the bread:
> I do the same thing with bread I buy, but I just cut off the less
> toasted for DH, he doesn't mind. But I like mine heavily toasted.
>
> Another thingie: cut your bread to shape, put the edges in a bag for
> crutons or breadcrumbs.
>
> Sometimes if the bread (I make my own usually) has harder crust, cut
> it off before toasting, which will make your piece more useable.
>
> All these things are time consuming, but do not cost you 'cents.'
>
> Dee Dee


But having to do all these things is a royal PITA. We have a "commercial"
Hamilton Beach 4-slice toaster, and it's consistent from first slice to
last.

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On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:07:43 -0700 (PDT), Dee Dee
> wrote:

>I believe I saw this type of toaster twice in the last ten-15 years;
>as I recall, they were in a hotel restaurant, the kind of hotel
>restaurant where you can make your own toast in the a.m. I'm sure
>they'll come back in style someday


Bought a four slice Dualit toaster 20 years ago...and still working
like a champ.

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On Aug 18, 8:47*pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
> On Mon 18 Aug 2008 05:24:11p, Dee Dee told us...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 18, 2:09*pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
> >> > wrote in message

>
> ....

>
> >> > Either the bread has gotten larger (which I doubt) or the toaster
> >> > manufactures have been downsizing the toasters over the years. I've
> >> > replace mine twice now and I still find part of the bread shows over
> >> > the toaster top and doesn't get toasted. In an age of conserving
> >> > energy, having to flip the bread around and toast it a second time
> >> > doesn't make 'cents'.

>
> >> Never had to do that with normal sized white bread, only for larger

> loave
> >> s of Italian or other similar styles. *Do you have a good brand of hte

> $7
> >> made in China from Wal Mart? *Well, most all are made in China except

> the
> >> ve ry expensive Dualit from England.

>
> > Really Fun reading the Dualit reviews on Amazon. *One 5* review says
> > this:

>
> > "I love the fact that operates completely different than any other
> > toaster out there. It's best to preheat it - but once you do you can
> > put in pieces of bread one right after another with consistant
> > results. None of the problems you have w/American toasters when they
> > get heated where the first piece is perfect, the next is too light,
> > and the next comes out more like a piece of bread and so on."

>
> > The Cusinart toaster I own is supposed to do this, and does to a
> > certain degree; but after 4 pieces of toast (two 2x), it always has
> > seemed to forget and the 3rd go-round comes out burnt at the same
> > setting.

>
> > a 1* review says this:
> > First of all, you MUST preheat it for a couple of minutes or it will
> > not toast.

>
> > I don't think I could abide the preheating a toaster either. *I guess
> > I'll deal with the one I have now,

>
> > To the OP, concern about money vs. time when toasting and it doesn't
> > toast the whole part of the bread:
> > I do the same thing with bread I buy, but I just cut off the less
> > toasted for DH, he doesn't mind. *But I like mine heavily toasted.

>
> > Another thingie: cut your bread to shape, put the edges in a bag for
> > crutons or breadcrumbs.

>
> > Sometimes if the bread (I make my own usually) has harder crust, cut
> > it off before toasting, which will make your piece more useable.

>
> > All these things are time consuming, but do not cost you 'cents.'

>
> > Dee Dee

>
> But having to do all these things is a royal PITA. *We have a "commercial"
> Hamilton Beach 4-slice toaster, and it's consistent from first slice to
> last.
>



I agree. It is a PITA (not PITA bread :-)) )

DH brought home a loaf each of sourdough and rye last week from Trader
Joe's. They are of this large size, and the loaves had been cut into
two pieces and they are still too large for the toaster. I don't know
if the sizes are all being cut this way.

I bought a couple of loaves from Panera Bread about a month ago; some
of their loaves are smaller. At first the rye tasted fine, but I
bought another two loaves and they were 'pukey.'

DH is spending time again with his father in CT -- he has his third
bout of cancer now, so I'm not interested in making bread when he's
not here. Too dangerous -- which brings me back to the toaster again;
my choice is plastic (I never thought I'd say that!), but I've burnt
myself too many times on a toaster; it now has to be plastic (ugh!)

Dee Dee
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On Aug 18, 8:50*pm, Billy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:07:43 -0700 (PDT), Dee Dee
>
> > wrote:
> >I believe I saw this type of toaster twice in the last ten-15 years;
> >as I recall, they were in a hotel restaurant, the kind of hotel
> >restaurant where you can make your own toast in the a.m. *I'm sure
> >they'll come back in style someday

>
> Bought a four slice Dualit toaster 20 years ago...and still working
> like a champ. *



Was it expensive then -- say, 2 to 3x the amount of a regular toaster?
Dee Dee


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"Dee Dee" > wrote in message

Really Fun reading the Dualit reviews on Amazon. One 5* review says
this:

"I love the fact that operates completely different than any other
toaster out there. It's best to preheat it - but once you do you can
put in pieces of bread one right after another with consistant
results. None of the problems you have w/American toasters when they
get heated where the first piece is perfect, the next is too light,
and the next comes out more like a piece of bread and so on."


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We bought a Kitchen Aid a few years ago. Consistent every time, but we've
never made more that two batches in a row. It was much cheaper ($40) than
the Dualit Holds both thick and thin slices well.


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On Mon 18 Aug 2008 06:05:15p, Dee Dee told us...

> On Aug 18, 8:47*pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>> On Mon 18 Aug 2008 05:24:11p, Dee Dee told us...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 18, 2:09*pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" > wrote:
>> >> > wrote in message

>>
>> >>news:c1510338-35e9-41c9-b72f-

..
>> >>.

>>
>> >> > Either the bread has gotten larger (which I doubt) or the toaster
>> >> > manufactures have been downsizing the toasters over the years. I've
>> >> > replace mine twice now and I still find part of the bread shows

over
>> >> > the toaster top and doesn't get toasted. In an age of conserving
>> >> > energy, having to flip the bread around and toast it a second time
>> >> > doesn't make 'cents'.

>>
>> >> Never had to do that with normal sized white bread, only for larger
>> >> loave s of Italian or other similar styles. *Do you have a good brand
>> >> of h te $7 made in China from Wal Mart? *Well, most all are made in
>> >> China excep t the ve ry expensive Dualit from England.

>>
>> > Really Fun reading the Dualit reviews on Amazon. *One 5* review says
>> > this:

>>
>> > "I love the fact that operates completely different than any other
>> > toaster out there. It's best to preheat it - but once you do you can
>> > put in pieces of bread one right after another with consistant
>> > results. None of the problems you have w/American toasters when they
>> > get heated where the first piece is perfect, the next is too light,

and
>> > the next comes out more like a piece of bread and so on."

>>
>> > The Cusinart toaster I own is supposed to do this, and does to a
>> > certain degree; but after 4 pieces of toast (two 2x), it always has
>> > seemed to forget and the 3rd go-round comes out burnt at the same
>> > setting.

>>
>> > a 1* review says this:
>> > First of all, you MUST preheat it for a couple of minutes or it will
>> > not toast.

>>
>> > I don't think I could abide the preheating a toaster either. *I guess
>> > I'll deal with the one I have now,

>>
>> > To the OP, concern about money vs. time when toasting and it doesn't
>> > toast the whole part of the bread:
>> > I do the same thing with bread I buy, but I just cut off the less
>> > toasted for DH, he doesn't mind. *But I like mine heavily toasted.

>>
>> > Another thingie: cut your bread to shape, put the edges in a bag for
>> > crutons or breadcrumbs.

>>
>> > Sometimes if the bread (I make my own usually) has harder crust, cut

it
>> > off before toasting, which will make your piece more useable.

>>
>> > All these things are time consuming, but do not cost you 'cents.'

>>
>> > Dee Dee

>>
>> But having to do all these things is a royal PITA. *We have a "commerci
>> al" Hamilton Beach 4-slice toaster, and it's consistent from first slice
>> to last.
>>

>
>
> I agree. It is a PITA (not PITA bread :-)) )
>
> DH brought home a loaf each of sourdough and rye last week from Trader
> Joe's. They are of this large size, and the loaves had been cut into
> two pieces and they are still too large for the toaster. I don't know
> if the sizes are all being cut this way.
>
> I bought a couple of loaves from Panera Bread about a month ago; some
> of their loaves are smaller. At first the rye tasted fine, but I
> bought another two loaves and they were 'pukey.'
>
> DH is spending time again with his father in CT -- he has his third
> bout of cancer now, so I'm not interested in making bread when he's
> not here. Too dangerous -- which brings me back to the toaster again;
> my choice is plastic (I never thought I'd say that!), but I've burnt
> myself too many times on a toaster; it now has to be plastic (ugh!)
>
> Dee Dee
>


Yes, baking bread for one can be dangerous! I would be happy to come and
share it with you. :-)

I do hope your father in law is responding to treatment.

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>
> I do hope your father in law is responding to treatment.
>
> --
> * * * * * * *Wayne Boatwright * * * * * *
>


Thanks, Wayne. Yes, he's doing well. He's a champ!

Good health to you.
Dee Dee

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On Mon 18 Aug 2008 08:18:06p, Dee Dee told us...

> On Aug 18, 10:24*pm, Wayne Boatwright > wrote:
>>

>
>>
>> I do hope your father in law is responding to treatment.
>>
>> --
>> * * * * * * *Wayne Boatwright * * * * * *
>>

>
> Thanks, Wayne. Yes, he's doing well. He's a champ!
>
> Good health to you.
> Dee Dee
>
>

I'm glad to hear it!

Thanks, Dee.


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>
>Was it expensive then -- say, 2 to 3x the amount of a regular toaster?


Yes, it was expensive. Should have made arrangements with Dualit for
commissions, since everyone sees it and goes out and buys one.

Somewhere in the dim recesses of my rapidly aging brain, I remember
reading that Queen Elizabeth uses this same toaster. If it's good
enough for royal toast .........


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On Aug 19, 8:18*am, Billy <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Dee Dee
>
> > wrote:
>
> >Was it expensive then -- say, 2 to 3x the amount of a regular toaster?

>
> Yes, it was expensive. * Should have made arrangements with Dualit for
> commissions, since everyone sees it and goes out and buys one. *
>
> Somewhere in the dim recesses of my rapidly aging brain, I remember
> reading that Queen Elizabeth uses this same toaster. If it's good
> enough for royal toast .........



Yeah, she would!
I used to buy cookies (and jams too, IIRC) that would have that royal
symbol on it. At the time I believe I bought them at World Market, or
Cost someother-or-other, when one couldn't find European goods. I
think you will see them in regular supermarkets now.

On Topic: Tupperware ;-))
I laugh now, that I've read that her husband has to have his
cornflakes (or other dried cereal) sitting to the side of his plate in
a Tupperware container. I can see she has great influence not only
on the masses, but at home, too.
In his own words, "Gastly," ;-))
Dee Dee



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When I first landed in South Korea 10 years ago, the previous foreigner-occupant had left an Electronic double-length Korean-brand toaster that works perfectly, sensing the thickness and heights of breads, etc., repeat cycles, etc.

Once, in whipping out massive quantities of toast for 40 hungry kid-campers, in desperation, I loaded 4 slices at a time, and flipped them when one side was done.

Perfect and fast operation for perhaps a half-hour or more.

Looks expensive but, psha kref !! , really performs.


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Either the bread has gotten larger (which I doubt) or the toaster
manufactures have been downsizing the toasters over the years. I've
replace mine twice now and I still find part of the bread shows over
the toaster top and doesn't get toasted. In an age of conserving
energy, having to flip the bread around and toast it a second time
doesn't make 'cents'.


Never had to do that with normal sized white bread, only for larger loaves
of Italian or other similar styles. Do you have a good brand of hte $7 made
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expensive Dualit from England.
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