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I have been thinking about buying a propane fired smoker. I currently
have a Black Diamond offset box smoker that I continue to have trouble regulating the temperature even though I have made all the modifications to it that I can do. The thought that I could set the temperature on the smoker and forget it except for adding smoking chips while smoking a big beef brisket for twelve hours makes me giddy. Any help from someone who has this type of smoker? |
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> I have been thinking about buying a propane fired smoker. I currently > have a Black Diamond offset box smoker that I continue to have trouble > regulating the temperature even though I have made all the > modifications to it that I can do. The thought that I could set the > temperature on the smoker and forget it except for adding smoking > chips while smoking a big beef brisket for twelve hours makes me > giddy. Any help from someone who has this type of smoker? > I haven't been that thrilled with the barbecue that I've seen come out of the propane fired cookers. I'd suggest instead getting the temperatures on the offset cooker under control. A wireless thermometer like the EZ-73 is a good way to go (forgot the brand name, even though I have one... but they were discussed here lately.) Using the thermometer and paying attention to what you're doing is very instructive. One temp probe is at rack level, the other is in whatever you're cooking. Last time I barbecued a chicken, I got the temperature where I wanted it and kept in a reasonable range... for the first time. (Maybe it was dumb luck.) Also, you might look at a pit minder or a stoker. The temperature graphs I've seen are very impressive, even though some people around here feel that's cheating. Mike -- Mike Avery mavery at mail dot otherwhen dot com part time baker ICQ 16241692 networking guru AIM, yahoo and skype mavery81230 wordsmith A Randomly Selected Thought For The Day: If it works, tear it apart and find out why! |
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> I have been thinking about buying a propane fired smoker. I currently > have a Black Diamond offset box smoker that I continue to have trouble > regulating the temperature even though I have made all the > modifications to it that I can do. The thought that I could set the > temperature on the smoker and forget it except for adding smoking > chips while smoking a big beef brisket for twelve hours makes me > giddy. Any help from someone who has this type of smoker? > I have one. Got it at wallywirld a couple of years ago. I believe the brand is smokey mountain something. It essentially is an outdoor oven, which you are not afraid to hose out. It works OK. The wood chip box is a bit small, but it will hold a steady temperature, and can attain 300 degrees F even in the winter. (40 ish here in central TX) I usually only add chips during the first 1-2 hours, as after the surface of the meat reaches 150 degrees or so they don't seem to absorb any more flavor. I would probably buy it again. Wanna trade your current smoker for mine? http://tinyurl.com/yxtgn3 |
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![]() "shawn" > wrote in message ... > Retired wrote: >> I have been thinking about buying a propane fired smoker. I currently >> have a Black Diamond offset box smoker that I continue to have trouble >> regulating the temperature even though I have made all the >> modifications to it that I can do. The thought that I could set the >> temperature on the smoker and forget it except for adding smoking >> chips while smoking a big beef brisket for twelve hours makes me >> giddy. Any help from someone who has this type of smoker? >> > I have one. Got it at wallywirld a couple of years ago. I believe the > brand is smokey mountain something. > > It essentially is an outdoor oven, which you are not afraid to hose out. > > It works OK. The wood chip box is a bit small, but it will hold a steady > temperature, and can attain 300 degrees F even in the winter. > (40 ish here in central TX) > > I usually only add chips during the first 1-2 hours, as after the surface > of the meat reaches 150 degrees or so they don't seem to absorb any more > flavor. > > I would probably buy it again. > > Wanna trade your current smoker for mine? > > http://tinyurl.com/yxtgn3 > > I bought the Great Outdoors Smoky Mountain Smoker and returned it to Walmart[who still has it online]. It won't smoke at a low enough temp. to call that smoking. I called the company, had the heating element replaced, and it still wouldn't go low enough to smoke ribs, or brisket, or anything you would smoke in an offset smoker. If you're doing long and slow smoking I would avoid this. As well, this company has been acquired by Vermont Castings, and is no more. You can buy the stainless version there. I was looking for an "easy to smoke" smoker where you didn't have to add charcoal and smoke, as you do for 8-12 hours. I ended up taking it back to Walmart. At BBQ Galore[a chain scattered about the country] they have the Cookshack, mentioned above. That may work but they charge for a proprietary "wood product" that creates a smokey flavor. I didn't want to get ripped off and I want to use wood I can chop down, or at least buy in chunks. I don't think there is an answer to this. At this point you have to use charcoal with wood and you have to check the patio at least hourly. Good Luck, if you hear anything, let us know. Kent |
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Kent wrote:
> I was looking for an "easy to smoke" smoker where you didn't have to add > charcoal and smoke, as you do > for 8-12 hours. I ended up taking it back to Walmart. > At BBQ Galore[a chain scattered about the country] they have the Cookshack, > mentioned above. That may work > but they charge for a proprietary "wood product" that creates a smokey > flavor. I didn't want to get ripped off > and I want to use wood I can chop down, or at least buy in chunks > > Kent > That is incorrect information. You're thinking of the Bradley smoker with it's proprietary wood pucks. I've been using whatever wood chunks I have handy in my Cookshack and am quite pleased with the end results. I've served my time with more labor-intensive smokers. YMMV. |
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![]() "Brian" > wrote in message news:t3GQh.4796$iw5.3916@trndny06... > Kent wrote: > >> I was looking for an "easy to smoke" smoker where you didn't have to add >> charcoal and smoke, as you do >> for 8-12 hours. I ended up taking it back to Walmart. >> At BBQ Galore[a chain scattered about the country] they have the >> Cookshack, mentioned above. That may work >> but they charge for a proprietary "wood product" that creates a smokey >> flavor. I didn't want to get ripped off >> and I want to use wood I can chop down, or at least buy in chunks >> >> Kent > > That is incorrect information. You're thinking of the Bradley smoker > with it's proprietary wood pucks. I've been using whatever wood chunks I > have handy in my Cookshack and am quite pleased with the end results. I've > served my time with more labor-intensive smokers. YMMV. > < You're absolutely right! It was the Bradley. Isn't the Cookshack fairly expensive? BTW, what does YMMV mean, and what's its relevance to this issue, or this NG? Kent |
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Kent wrote:
> "Brian" > wrote in message > news:t3GQh.4796$iw5.3916@trndny06... >> Kent wrote: >> >>> I was looking for an "easy to smoke" smoker where you didn't have to add >>> charcoal and smoke, as you do >>> for 8-12 hours. I ended up taking it back to Walmart. >>> At BBQ Galore[a chain scattered about the country] they have the >>> Cookshack, mentioned above. That may work >>> but they charge for a proprietary "wood product" that creates a smokey >>> flavor. I didn't want to get ripped off >>> and I want to use wood I can chop down, or at least buy in chunks >>> >>> Kent >> That is incorrect information. You're thinking of the Bradley smoker >> with it's proprietary wood pucks. I've been using whatever wood chunks I >> have handy in my Cookshack and am quite pleased with the end results. I've >> served my time with more labor-intensive smokers. YMMV. >> > < > You're absolutely right! It was the Bradley. > Isn't the Cookshack fairly expensive? > > BTW, what does YMMV mean, and what's its > relevance to this issue, or this NG? > > Kent > > Expensive is relative, my Cookshack definitely cost more than my 1st Brinkmann, but I sure do enjoy the full night's sleep I get while the butts/briskets do their thing. It doesn't use lump or ricks of hardwood (4-8 oz. of chunks for smoke flavor), I can fire it up in the dead of winter without dragging out the moving blankets and wind breaks. Did I mention you get a full night's sleep? Your opinion may differ, Your Mileage May Vary is another way of saying the same thing. *Disclaimer* I don't work for Cookshack, but do like my smoker. Brian |
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Kent wrote:
> I bought the Great Outdoors Smoky Mountain Smoker and returned it to > Walmart[who still has it online]. > It won't smoke at a low enough temp. And this is where Your Mileage May Vary comes in. I bought one, the wide body, at Wal-Mart several years ago. It was my very first smoker, and I turned out a bunch of decent meat with it for a year or so. Not fantastic, but decent. I actually had to turn mine up to get it up to 225 F - at its lowest setting, mine was putting out about 180-200 at the grate. It came with two grates, but four places to put them, so I called the company and bought two more. I could load it full with a couple briskets, a pair of pork shoulders, and still have room to put on a turkey and some ribs in rib racks late the next day after I'd pulled off one of the roasts. After a year or so, I went back to Wally World and bought the CharGriller. Man, what a difference lump charcoal and wood chunks makes. Of course, I had to dedicate a full day to it, getting up at 5 a.m., not eating until 7 or 8 that night, and had to babysit the fire all day, not able to go anywhere else or do anything else, constantly checking the temps. A cooler full of beer helped pass the time. Did I mention I couldn't go anywhere else or do anything else but bbq that day? Including honey-do's, running errands, etc. Kinda like a forced vacation. I'll probably never let go of my CharGriller ![]() Last weekend, I bought a Traeger, and I've used it every night since. I love that machine, and it turns out terrific smoked/grilled stuff. Tonight I'm going to buy a brisket at Costco, season it, refrigerate it overnight, and put it on the Traeger when I get home from work tomorrow. I've read the Traeger smokes somewhere around 180-200, so I figure at least 20 hours for that brisket. I'll let you know how it turns out. But, back at the OP's request: The GOSM, as it's called (Great Outdoors Smoky Mountain propane vertical water smoker) worked great for me. I still have it, but haven't used it in over a year. I doubt I'll be able to duplicate the tasty results I get with the CharGriller and Trager on a gasser. But, some day when it's in the '40's overnight and I'm out of Q, I might just have to fire it up again. -- EZ Traeger BBQ075 "Texas" CharGriller Smokin Pro Great Outdoors Smoky Mountain Wide Body CharmGlow 3-burner All-Stainless Gas Grill Weber Kettle One-Touch Silver 22-1/2" Weber Kettle Smoky Joe Silver 14-1/2" |
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