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On Aug 28, 9:03 pm, Gerry wrote:
On 2007-08-28 16:08:30 -0700, Terrorist Killer said: On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:07:20 -0700, Gerry wrote: Last time: a dedicated newsreader. That's the service such programs provide. hehe I use Agent at home, and I can't figure out how to move all these news reader posts out of my Shrimp Sauce thread. Hahahahaahahaha That was fun. Really? You can't figure out kill-filing users in Agent? I wouldn't want to filter out you and the other 5 members who have altered the thread topic. I realize that this is a common practice here in this group. I was really joking...that's why I included the hehe and hahahaha. Personally, I'd like to see folks start another thread, but it's not that important to me. This is a pretty laid-back group and I enjoy the back-and-forth done here. |
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"Personally, I'd like to see folks start another thread..."
You're right. This thread has gone off on a tangent, as usual. "I've been exploring all the new Vietnamese joints that feature food from Hué..." Barf. Congealed blood. But you live in the world's greatest Asian restaurant neighborhood! |
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On 2007-08-28 22:25:41 -0700, Gerry said:
Also a great semi-new place on Fairview named Taka Sushi. Pretty full and complete traditional menu with all kinds of interesting stuff. Good specials chalkboard with about half of it in Japanese. Always a good sign. Barf. Natto. -- "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains: round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare, The lone and level sands stretch far away. |
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Gerry wrote on Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:30:47 -0700:
?? "Personally, I'd like to see folks start another ?? thread..." ?? ?? You're right. This thread has gone off on a tangent, as ?? usual. ?? ?? "I've been exploring all the new Vietnamese joints that ?? feature food from Hué..." ?? ?? Barf. Congealed blood. G I know of no congealed blood dishes at any of the Hue joints G I've been visiting. I thought it was the entire cuisine of G Korea you banished due to a soup. Or maybe now it's all of G Asia? In any case dig this: you don't have to eat the foods you G don't want to. Otherwise a lot of people wouldn't be going G to Japanese restaurants barf uni. ?? But you live in the world's greatest Asian restaurant ?? neighborhood! Apart from over-scrupulous thinking about it, what's wrong with blood in cooking? I suppose some people might not like to have it for religious reasons but blood sausage is eaten in Europe (don't the British like "black pudding"?), blood is used in some French sauces etc.and lot's of people like their steak very rare! James Silverton Potomac, Maryland E-mail, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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On 2007-08-29 12:51:00 -0700, "James Silverton"
said: Apart from over-scrupulous thinking about it, what's wrong with blood in cooking? Apart from what makes it disgusting? I guess that's about it. Just like a lot of adults don't want to eat bunnies and sheep, though if you fed them blind they'd love rabbit and lambchops. I suppose some people might not like to have it for religious reasons but blood sausage is eaten in Europe (don't the British like "black pudding"?), blood is used in some French sauces etc.and lot's of people like their steak very rare! I was reading in a Scandanavian cookbook about Danish blodpudding and it sounded like it would taste great. Reading about it's preparation? ("Continue to stir constantly so the blood won't congeal") Not so much. But Mr. wolf, in humor or otherwise, has dismissed a few cuisines to a purgatory, at least temporarily, because of some referential aspect. Like there was a story about a guy who knew somebody what ATE A DOG!!! So Korean food, BBQ, rice porridge, seafood pancakes, tofu soup and all get the summary evaluation: Barf: Dog burgers. -- ///--- |
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I know of no congealed blood dishes at any of the Hue joints I've been
visiting. --- My only misadventure with Vietnamese Hue's (in)famous bun bo hue was in your hood in some down home joint I happened upon and in which I was the only non-Viet. Do you want it with blood?, the waitress inquired. Yeah sure, said I, being an aficianado of authentic cuisine and having had blood sausages and some other blood stuff in the past and they were fine. I did not, however anticipate authentic bun bo hue. A noodle soup dish loaded with big chunks of congealed blood in gelatinous mass. I had a go at it, but couldn't handle it. The taste was horrid. This is one of the very few exotic cuisines that grossed me out. Perhaps the trick was too put loads of hot sauce on the chunks of blood, or perhaps, as someone here suggested, the blood wasn't very fresh. I dunno, but I always associate that dish with Hue style now. I thought it was the entire cuisine of Korea you banished due to a soup. --- No, I got food poisoning on a camping trip and after that I didn't seem to be able to digest kim chee, sauerkraut, etc. I think I'm finally over it. |
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On Aug 30, 12:50 am, Gerry wrote:
On 2007-08-29 12:51:00 -0700, "James Silverton" said: Apart from over-scrupulous thinking about it, what's wrong with blood in cooking? Apart from what makes it disgusting? I guess that's about it. Just like a lot of adults don't want to eat bunnies and sheep, though if you fed them blind they'd love rabbit and lambchops. I suppose some people might not like to have it for religious reasons but blood sausage is eaten in Europe (don't the British like "black pudding"?), blood is used in some French sauces etc.and lot's of people like their steak very rare! I was reading in a Scandanavian cookbook about Danish blodpudding and it sounded like it would taste great. Reading about it's preparation? ("Continue to stir constantly so the blood won't congeal") Not so much. But Mr. wolf, in humor or otherwise, has dismissed a few cuisines to a purgatory, at least temporarily, because of some referential aspect. Like there was a story about a guy who knew somebody what ATE A DOG!!! So Korean food, BBQ, rice porridge, seafood pancakes, tofu soup and all get the summary evaluation: Barf: Dog burgers. About 20 years ago, I was shown an article written by, of all things, a Veterinarian. The article was explaining that dog was actually a very healthy, nutritious and tasty thing to eat. I will tell you that at the time, I thought that a veterinarian who would write such a thing stuck me pretty funny. Why would a person who is entrusted with the care and well-being of all animals would say such a thing? Of course, Vets take care of chickens, cows and pigs too. They also eat them. In many countries, dogs are seen as lots of things other than as domestic pets. In the 1970's, I had an occasion to eat dog that was served by a Korean family to me as a guest in their home. At the moment I was eating it, I was unaware that it was dog. It was served in a meat salad much like kimche, but with meat added. The kimche was fresh, not fermented, and as lots of Korean dishes, it was pretty spicy. The flavor of the dog was pleasant and light. The texture was a tight grained meat with almost no fat, no gristle and very tender. It reminded me of a center cut pork chop in flavor and texture. Lots of people keep horses as pets also, but they can be bought in many countries as food as well. When I was in Germany, it was available in butcher shops for human consumption. Bunnies. Millions of bunnies are kept as pets by children and some adults. I love eating bunnies. I'm rather surprised that folks in a group for sushi would have an aversion to eating unusual foods. Sushi itself has many, many unusual items included in it's fare. Now, don't get me wrong. I won't be going to anyone's house, scratching poochie behind the ears and slicing it's throat. But if dog were available as a meat in my country, I'd eat it once in awhile. It's good. Eaten much the same as Kobe beef is, I can imagine that many of you would like it. |
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On 2007-09-01 06:40:50 -0700, John Doe said:
On Aug 30, 12:50 am, Gerry wrote: On 2007-08-29 12:51:00 -0700, "James Silverton" said: Apart from over-scrupulous thinking about it, what's wrong with blood in cooking? Apart from what makes it disgusting? I guess that's about it. Just like a lot of adults don't want to eat bunnies and sheep, though if you fed them blind they'd love rabbit and lambchops. I suppose some people might not like to have it for religious reasons but blood sausage is eaten in Europe (don't the British like "black pudding"?), blood is used in some French sauces etc.and lot's of people like their steak very rare! I was reading in a Scandanavian cookbook about Danish blodpudding and it sounded like it would taste great. Reading about it's preparation? ("Continue to stir constantly so the blood won't congeal") Not so much. But Mr. wolf, in humor or otherwise, has dismissed a few cuisines to a purgatory, at least temporarily, because of some referential aspect. Like there was a story about a guy who knew somebody what ATE A DOG!!! So Korean food, BBQ, rice porridge, seafood pancakes, tofu soup and all get the summary evaluation: Barf: Dog burgers. About 20 years ago, I was shown an article written by, of all things, a Veterinarian. The article was explaining that dog was actually a very healthy, nutritious and tasty thing to eat. I will tell you that at the time, I thought that a veterinarian who would write such a thing stuck me pretty funny. Why would a person who is entrusted with the care and well-being of all animals would say such a thing? Of course, Vets take care of chickens, cows and pigs too. They also eat them. In many countries, dogs are seen as lots of things other than as domestic pets. In the 1970's, I had an occasion to eat dog that was served by a Korean family to me as a guest in their home. At the moment I was eating it, I was unaware that it was dog. It was served in a meat salad much like kimche, but with meat added. The kimche was fresh, not fermented, and as lots of Korean dishes, it was pretty spicy. The flavor of the dog was pleasant and light. The texture was a tight grained meat with almost no fat, no gristle and very tender. It reminded me of a center cut pork chop in flavor and texture. Lots of people keep horses as pets also, but they can be bought in many countries as food as well. When I was in Germany, it was available in butcher shops for human consumption. Bunnies. Millions of bunnies are kept as pets by children and some adults. I love eating bunnies. I'm rather surprised that folks in a group for sushi would have an aversion to eating unusual foods. Sushi itself has many, many unusual items included in it's fare. As werewolf points out upstream, ostensibly it wasn't the dog that was off-putting, but the rumor/inuendo/myth that the dog was tortured before death inorder to produce more tasty enzymes/hormones or whatever. The implication was that torturing the animal before death would make it taste better. I think that's a total crock of shit, and would like to read any article (if someone posseses such a link) that indicates that. It sounds like PETA/SPCA agit-prop. All good things to them and their cause(s), but I don't believe this. In fact I have read the opposite regarding beef; that if the cattle is terrorized in a slaughterhouse environment prior to being butchered, their adrenalin/body chemistry makes for inferior taste but it is a minor distinction and one that simply can't be addressed in a large commercial venture. Now I didn't hear that from a guy who knew a guy, I saw it in a story related to (of all things) autism in a 60 minutes program years ago. Both may be false I don't know. My only perspective is that a Korean somewhere tortures dogs as a tenderizer, it doesn't change my interest in the whole of (accessible) Korean cuisine. Now, don't get me wrong. I won't be going to anyone's house, scratching poochie behind the ears and slicing it's throat. But if dog were available as a meat in my country, I'd eat it once in awhile. It's good. Eaten much the same as Kobe beef is, I can imagine that many of you would like it. It's logical that those animals we have most closely associated with personally would be difficult to eat. I figured that was one of the reasons for 4H--to torque children's brains where they could find a way to understand loving an animal, and then killing it for dinner. I assume this is not a normal relationship to domesticated animals and foodstuffs and has to be learned, and learned before one's brain sets up all the logical civilized associations. -- ///--- |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:38:36 -0700, Gerry
wrote: On 2007-09-01 06:40:50 -0700, John Doe said: On Aug 30, 12:50 am, Gerry wrote: On 2007-08-29 12:51:00 -0700, "James Silverton" said: Apart from over-scrupulous thinking about it, what's wrong with blood in cooking? Apart from what makes it disgusting? I guess that's about it. Just like a lot of adults don't want to eat bunnies and sheep, though if you fed them blind they'd love rabbit and lambchops. I suppose some people might not like to have it for religious reasons but blood sausage is eaten in Europe (don't the British like "black pudding"?), blood is used in some French sauces etc.and lot's of people like their steak very rare! I was reading in a Scandanavian cookbook about Danish blodpudding and it sounded like it would taste great. Reading about it's preparation? ("Continue to stir constantly so the blood won't congeal") Not so much. But Mr. wolf, in humor or otherwise, has dismissed a few cuisines to a purgatory, at least temporarily, because of some referential aspect. Like there was a story about a guy who knew somebody what ATE A DOG!!! So Korean food, BBQ, rice porridge, seafood pancakes, tofu soup and all get the summary evaluation: Barf: Dog burgers. About 20 years ago, I was shown an article written by, of all things, a Veterinarian. The article was explaining that dog was actually a very healthy, nutritious and tasty thing to eat. I will tell you that at the time, I thought that a veterinarian who would write such a thing stuck me pretty funny. Why would a person who is entrusted with the care and well-being of all animals would say such a thing? Of course, Vets take care of chickens, cows and pigs too. They also eat them. In many countries, dogs are seen as lots of things other than as domestic pets. In the 1970's, I had an occasion to eat dog that was served by a Korean family to me as a guest in their home. At the moment I was eating it, I was unaware that it was dog. It was served in a meat salad much like kimche, but with meat added. The kimche was fresh, not fermented, and as lots of Korean dishes, it was pretty spicy. The flavor of the dog was pleasant and light. The texture was a tight grained meat with almost no fat, no gristle and very tender. It reminded me of a center cut pork chop in flavor and texture. Lots of people keep horses as pets also, but they can be bought in many countries as food as well. When I was in Germany, it was available in butcher shops for human consumption. Bunnies. Millions of bunnies are kept as pets by children and some adults. I love eating bunnies. I'm rather surprised that folks in a group for sushi would have an aversion to eating unusual foods. Sushi itself has many, many unusual items included in it's fare. As werewolf points out upstream, ostensibly it wasn't the dog that was off-putting, but the rumor/inuendo/myth that the dog was tortured before death inorder to produce more tasty enzymes/hormones or whatever. The implication was that torturing the animal before death would make it taste better. I think that's a total crock of shit, and would like to read any article (if someone posseses such a link) that indicates that. It sounds like PETA/SPCA agit-prop. All good things to them and their cause(s), but I don't believe this. In fact I have read the opposite regarding beef; that if the cattle is terrorized in a slaughterhouse environment prior to being butchered, their adrenalin/body chemistry makes for inferior taste but it is a minor distinction and one that simply can't be addressed in a large commercial venture. Now I didn't hear that from a guy who knew a guy, I saw it in a story related to (of all things) autism in a 60 minutes program years ago. Both may be false I don't know. My only perspective is that a Korean somewhere tortures dogs as a tenderizer, it doesn't change my interest in the whole of (accessible) Korean cuisine. The Koreans I've met are pretty logical people. I've never met one that had the time to even try such a silly theory as torturing an animal to improve it's taste. I agree, it sounds like an urban legend of something to dissuade a person from even trying it. Now, don't get me wrong. I won't be going to anyone's house, scratching poochie behind the ears and slicing it's throat. But if dog were available as a meat in my country, I'd eat it once in awhile. It's good. Eaten much the same as Kobe beef is, I can imagine that many of you would like it. It's logical that those animals we have most closely associated with personally would be difficult to eat. I figured that was one of the reasons for 4H--to torque children's brains where they could find a way to understand loving an animal, and then killing it for dinner. I assume this is not a normal relationship to domesticated animals and foodstuffs and has to be learned, and learned before one's brain sets up all the logical civilized associations. I was raised on a farm, for part of my childhood. Having watched the butchering and cleaning of animals from an early age, I seem to be immune to any ill feelings regarding the process. When an animal is walking around mooing, I see them as a live animal and treat them as well as possible. I certainly have never gone out of my way to make their simple lives harder for them. When I dispatch an animal, it's with a means that is suitable for a speedy death. Most of the larger animals, I shoot. The smaller are decapitated and then hung to drain. Living on a farm will toughen up almost everyone in regards to slaughtering for food. |
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On 2007-09-03 03:08:42 -0700, Terrorist Killer said:
It's logical that those animals we have most closely associated with personally would be difficult to eat. I figured that was one of the reasons for 4H--to torque children's brains where they could find a way to understand loving an animal, and then killing it for dinner. I assume this is not a normal relationship to domesticated animals and foodstuffs and has to be learned, and learned before one's brain sets up all the logical civilized associations. I was raised on a farm, for part of my childhood. Having watched the butchering and cleaning of animals from an early age, I seem to be immune to any ill feelings regarding the process. Thanks for bolstering my point. When an animal is walking around mooing, I see them as a live animal and treat them as well as possible. I certainly have never gone out of my way to make their simple lives harder for them. That's called a conscience and city boy/farm boy, christian/muslim, not everybody has one. When I dispatch an animal, it's with a means that is suitable for a speedy death. Most of the larger animals, I shoot. The smaller are decapitated and then hung to drain. Living on a farm will toughen up almost everyone in regards to slaughtering for food. Please do not misinterpret and I mean absolutely no disrespect to you or the culture from which you come: This is the way children are toughened up to the way of contemporary primitive warfare in Cambodia and Rwanda in order to whittle relatives and school friends into kindling with a machete. More benign: this is also the way people acquire tastes for menudo, natto and blodpudding. Some things you need learn or acquiese to by the time your 7 or 8 if you're going to get with the game. -- ///--- |