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On 3/2/2021 11:30 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 14:26:16 -0500, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>> On 2021-03-02 11:08 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 3/2/2021 7:55 AM, David Crossley wrote:

>> Janet UK
>>>>>
>>>> Also, don't forget about the time we saved you Limey's
>>>> from the Krauts, back in the big one.
>>>> --
>>>> Regards
>>>> David Crossley
>>>>
>>>
>>> And the time before that.Â* And don't forget the incident with the Argies.

>>
>> Is that the one where Britain took back the Falklands Islands. They did
>> a good job of winning that one back single handed.

>
> Yes, what a great military victory that was! 2 sheep and a rock.
>
> Sometimes, you just have to look at the map. The Falkland Islands
> should be Argentinian. The Orkney Islands should be British.
>



That really has nothing to do with it.

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On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 15:20:09 -0600, BryanGSimmons
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>On 3/2/2021 8:19 AM, Gary wrote:
>> On 3/1/2021 12:51 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> My whacko health food nazi sister in law fed that to my son and his
>>> girlfriend when they visited her. She had made pancakes for breakfast
>>> and after they were finished she told them she had made them with
>>> cricket flour.

>>
>> Main question: Did they like the pancakes before they were told about
>> the "Cricket Factor?"
>>

>The appropriate response would be to vomit on her face.
>
>Another good one would be to tell her a year later that over the last
>year that every time he used the bathroom that he rubbed the bristles
>of her toothbrush on his anus.


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BryanGSimmons wrote:
> On 3/2/2021 8:19 AM, Gary wrote:
>> On 3/1/2021 12:51 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> My whacko health food nazi sister in law fed that to my son and his
>>> girlfriend when they visited her. She had made pancakes for
>>> breakfast
>>> and after they were finished she told them she had made them with
>>> cricket flour.

>>
>> Main question: Did they like the pancakes before they were told
>> about the "Cricket Factor?"
>>
>>
>>

> The appropriate response would be to vomit on her face.
>
> Another good one would be to tell her a year later that over the last
> year that every time he used the bathroom that he rubbed the bristles
> of her toothbrush on his anus.
>


Druce would pay a premium price for that toothbrush.


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On 3/2/2021 4:29 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> BryanGSimmons wrote:
>> On 3/2/2021 8:19 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> On 3/1/2021 12:51 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> My whacko health food nazi sister in law fed that to my son and his
>>>> girlfriend when they visited her. She had made pancakes for breakfast
>>>> and after they were finished she told them she had made them with
>>>> cricket flour.
>>>
>>> Main question: Did they like the pancakes before they were told about
>>> the "Cricket Factor?"
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> The appropriate response would be to vomit on her face.
>>
>> Another good one would be to tell her a year later that over the last
>> year that every time he used the bathroom that he rubbed the bristles
>> of her toothbrush on his anus.
>>

>
> Druce would pay a premium price for that toothbrush.
>
>

He appears to have no sense of humor. Can you imagine telling your
aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs? You wouldn't even
have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
know one way or the other. She'd think about it every time she
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On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 16:55:29 -0600, BryanGSimmons
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>He appears to have no sense of humor. Can you imagine telling your
>aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
>chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs? You wouldn't even
>have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
>know one way or the other. She'd think about it every time she
>brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.


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Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 16:55:29 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> > wrote:
>
>> He appears to have no sense of humor. Can you imagine telling your
>> aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
>> chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs? You wouldn't even
>> have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
>> know one way or the other. She'd think about it every time she
>> brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.

>
> Your sick fantasies and my sense of humour don't overlap, thank God.
>


Go ahead and take a whiff master; you know you want to.


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On 3/2/2021 5:27 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 16:55:29 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> > wrote:
>
>> He appears to have no sense of humor. Can you imagine telling your
>> aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
>> chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs? You wouldn't even
>> have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
>> know one way or the other. She'd think about it every time she
>> brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.

>
> Your sick fantasies and my sense of humour don't overlap, thank God.
>

What would *you* do if someone fed you bugs?

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On 3/2/2021 5:55 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 16:55:29 -0600, BryanGSimmons
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> He appears to have no sense of humor.Â* Can you imagine telling your
>>> aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
>>> chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs?Â* You wouldn't even
>>> have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
>>> know one way or the other.Â* She'd think about it every time she
>>> brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.

>>
>> Your sick fantasies and my sense of humour don't overlap, thank God.
>>

>
> Go ahead and take a whiff master; you know you want to.
>
>

You should show more respect. He may be descended from a long line
of grooms of the stool.

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On 2021-03-02 4:54 p.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 3/2/2021 11:26 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-02 11:08 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 3/2/2021 7:55 AM, David Crossley wrote:

>> Â*Â* Janet UK
>>>>>
>>>> Also, don't forget about the time we saved you Limey's
>>>> from the Krauts, back in the big one.
>>>> --
>>>> Regards
>>>> David Crossley
>>>>
>>>
>>> And the time before that.Â* And don't forget the incident with the
>>> Argies.

>>
>> Is that the one where Britain took back the Falklands Islands. They did
>> a good job of winning that one back single handed. I do recall that the
>> US had similar victories fighting single handed against military
>> superpowers like Grenada and Panama.
>>

>
>
> The US may not have had boots on the ground, but they gave a lot of
> assistance.


It wasn't too hard to buy support when there were jobs and money coming
in to sell war materials to the Allies, but it was a different matter
when it came to sending troops and risking American lives, they opted to
let the Europeans slug it out. The British and their Allies went to war
in 1914, The US was finally ready to fight in May 1918. The Allies
already had Germany on the run. The tipped the scales with a massive
influx of men and equipment.

In WWII they had the Lend Lease program that allowed them to provide war
materials to the Allies to be used to protect American interests, but
they did not want to send in troops. The Allies had been at it for more
than two years before Japan attacked and Hitler declared war on the US
that they got involved. The help was appreciated but give credit where
credit is due. Just be happy that the Soviet Union had stupidly made a
deal with Hitler and were betrayed when the Nazis invaded their
Bolshevik Utopia, because it was the Soviet armies that pounded the
German forces on the ground.



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On 2021-03-02 4:55 p.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 3/2/2021 11:30 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 14:26:16 -0500, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 2021-03-02 11:08 a.m., Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>> On 3/2/2021 7:55 AM, David Crossley wrote:
>>> Â* Janet UK
>>>>>>
>>>>> Also, don't forget about the time we saved you Limey's
>>>>> from the Krauts, back in the big one.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> David Crossley
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And the time before that.Â* And don't forget the incident with the
>>>> Argies.
>>>
>>> Is that the one where Britain took back the Falklands Islands. They did
>>> a good job of winning that one back single handed.

>>
>> Yes, what a great military victory that was! 2 sheep and a rock.
>>
>> Sometimes, you just have to look at the map. The Falkland Islands
>> should be Argentinian. The Orkney Islands should be British.
>>

>
>
> That really has nothing to do with it.
>


At least the British were able to take on a significant military power
single handed.


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On 2021-03-02 5:55 p.m., BryanGSimmons wrote:
> On 3/2/2021 4:29 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:


>>
>> Druce would pay a premium price for that toothbrush.
>>
>>

> He appears to have no sense of humor.Â* Can you imagine telling your
> aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
> chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs?Â* You wouldn't even
> have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
> know one way or the other.Â* She'd think about it every time she
> brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.
>


I would never tell someone that I had rubbed their toothbrush on my ass.
I would prefer to know that every time they brush their teeth their
would be traces of me on the brush.
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On 3/2/2021 6:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-02 5:55 p.m., BryanGSimmons wrote:
>> On 3/2/2021 4:29 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:

>
>>>
>>> Druce would pay a premium price for that toothbrush.
>>>
>>>

>> He appears to have no sense of humor.Â* Can you imagine telling your
>> aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
>> chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs?Â* You wouldn't even
>> have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
>> know one way or the other.Â* She'd think about it every time she
>> brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.
>>

>
> I would never tell someone that I had rubbed their toothbrush on my ass.
> I would prefer to know that every time they brush their teeth their
> would be traces of me on the brush.


I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.

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On 2021-03-02 8:47 p.m., BryanGSimmons wrote:
> On 3/2/2021 6:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:


>> I would never tell someone that I had rubbed their toothbrush on my
>> ass. I would prefer to know that every time they brush their teeth
>> their would be traces of me on the brush.

>
> I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
> someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.
>


They would be really ****ed to be told that you had done it, but they
would throw it out and get a new one. If you actually did it and didn't
tell them they would be putting your ass in their mouth a couple times a
day.

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On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 19:47:51 -0600, BryanGSimmons
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>On 3/2/2021 6:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-02 5:55 p.m., BryanGSimmons wrote:
>>>>
>>> He appears to have no sense of humor.Â* Can you imagine telling your
>>> aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
>>> chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs?Â* You wouldn't even
>>> have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
>>> know one way or the other.Â* She'd think about it every time she
>>> brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.
>>>

>> I would never tell someone that I had rubbed their toothbrush on my ass.
>> I would prefer to know that every time they brush their teeth their
>> would be traces of me on the brush.

>
>I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
>someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.


I feel a new novel coming up, Bryan. You're already elaborating on its
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On Tue, 02 Mar 2021 19:47:51 -0600, BryanGSimmons wrote:

> I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
> someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.


It sounds like a way to get herpes. I'd need to hear a convincing story I
could use to explain that to my wife first.


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On 02/03/2021 21:12, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 20:37:30 +0000, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 02/03/2021 20:24, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 20:16:22 +0000, S Viemeister
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/03/2021 19:30, Bruce wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes, you just have to look at the map. The Falkland Islands
>>>>> should be Argentinian. The Orkney Islands should be British.
>>>>>
>>>> Orkney used to be Norwegian.
>>>
>>> See? Now they're British.
>>>

>> Norway's pretty close. I've picked up Norwegian TV transmissions, when
>> our local transmitter lost power. I'm south and west of Orkney -
>> if I walk up the road a bit, on a clear day I can see Orkney.

>
> I bet it's beautiful but chilly.
>

Always beautiful, sometimes chilly - but I have a low tolerance for high
temperatures, so I'm happy.
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On 3/2/2021 8:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 19:47:51 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> > wrote:
>
>> On 3/2/2021 6:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-02 5:55 p.m., BryanGSimmons wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> He appears to have no sense of humor.Â* Can you imagine telling your
>>>> aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
>>>> chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs?Â* You wouldn't even
>>>> have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
>>>> know one way or the other.Â* She'd think about it every time she
>>>> brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.
>>>>
>>> I would never tell someone that I had rubbed their toothbrush on my ass.
>>> I would prefer to know that every time they brush their teeth their
>>> would be traces of me on the brush.

>>
>> I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
>> someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.

>
> I feel a new novel coming up, Bryan. You're already elaborating on its
> main theme!
>

Revenge? That's best kept short. What *would* you do if someone put
bugs in food and served it to you?

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On 3/2/2021 7:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-03-02 8:47 p.m., BryanGSimmons wrote:
>> On 3/2/2021 6:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
>>> I would never tell someone that I had rubbed their toothbrush on my
>>> ass. I would prefer to know that every time they brush their teeth
>>> their would be traces of me on the brush.

>>
>> I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
>> someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.
>>

>
> They would be really ****ed to be told that you had done it, but they
> would throw it out and get a new one. If you actually did it and didn't
> tell them they would be putting your ass in their mouth a couple times a
> day.
>

I wouldn't want my ass in her mouth. I would want her to experience
49 times the disgust she inflicted upon me, plus 49 times the disgust
she inflicted upon my girlfriend, which is 98 times. Sure, she could
change her toothbrush, but she could never change the past. You should
share my idea with your son. Creative revenge is a joy.

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On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 03:40:42 -0600, BryanGSimmons
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>On 3/2/2021 8:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 19:47:51 -0600, BryanGSimmons
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/2/2021 6:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2021-03-02 5:55 p.m., BryanGSimmons wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> He appears to have no sense of humor.Â* Can you imagine telling your
>>>>> aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
>>>>> chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs?Â* You wouldn't even
>>>>> have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
>>>>> know one way or the other.Â* She'd think about it every time she
>>>>> brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.
>>>>>
>>>> I would never tell someone that I had rubbed their toothbrush on my ass.
>>>> I would prefer to know that every time they brush their teeth their
>>>> would be traces of me on the brush.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
>>> someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.

>>
>> I feel a new novel coming up, Bryan. You're already elaborating on its
>> main theme!
>>

>Revenge?


No, that's way too big for you. Toothbrushes and anuses.

>That's best kept short. What *would* you do if someone put
>bugs in food and served it to you?


They didn't put bugs in their food. They fed them something made of
cricket flour. A food grade, probably FDA approved item, not a
cockroach they pulled out of their ass.

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On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 03:53:16 -0600, BryanGSimmons
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>On 3/2/2021 7:56 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-03-02 8:47 p.m., BryanGSimmons wrote:
>>> On 3/2/2021 6:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>>
>>>> I would never tell someone that I had rubbed their toothbrush on my
>>>> ass. I would prefer to know that every time they brush their teeth
>>>> their would be traces of me on the brush.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
>>> someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.
>>>

>>
>> They would be really ****ed to be told that you had done it, but they
>> would throw it out and get a new one. If you actually did it and didn't
>> tell them they would be putting your ass in their mouth a couple times a
>> day.
>>

>I wouldn't want my ass in her mouth. I would want her to experience
>49 times the disgust she inflicted upon me, plus 49 times the disgust
>she inflicted upon my girlfriend, which is 98 times. Sure, she could
>change her toothbrush, but she could never change the past. You should
>share my idea with your son. Creative revenge is a joy.


Have you ever been checked out by a shrink?

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On 3/2/2021 11:28 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Mar 2021 19:47:51 -0600, BryanGSimmons wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
>> someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.

>
> It sounds like a way to get herpes. I'd need to hear a convincing story I
> could use to explain that to my wife first.
>

"Oh, and I stuck your chapstick up my girlfriend's ass. I know what
you're thinking. Yeah, I took the cap off first."

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On 13:54 2 Mar 2021, Janet said:
> In article >,
> cshenk1 @cox.net says...
>>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 06:25:18 -0500, Gary >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Early this morning (3am) I heard and saw a phone interview
>> > > with Trump just from yesterday. Mainly about the few things
>> > > he got to do and how now Biden is cancelling them.
>> > >
>> > > Liberals hate whatever he says, no matter what but he says
>> > > but he does talk more sense than Biden does.
>> >
>> > So much for your 'respecting the office' bullshit. You're just
>> > a deplorable and were making excuses.
>> >
>> > > I listen to both sides and make my own decisions.
>> > >
>> > > With both houses of Congress, Biden will do many things at
>> > > least in the next 2 years. I'll reserve judgement for at
>> > > least 6 months or more before I decide who I think would do
>> > > better. Trump would have been a worthless President this time
>> > > with both houses Democrat and Nancy in charge of the House.
>> > >
>> > > He might run in 2024 but won't say now. It's an option.
>> >
>> > It would be very bad for the planet if one of the world's
>> > biggest economies was again run by Trump for 4 years.

>>
>> Bruce, if I recall right, you do not live in the USA. What
>> country was it?

>
> Not knowing that is a damning revelation of your inadequate
> reading, comprehension and memory, Carol.
>
> Janet UK


How is that more damning than your false claim that I posted a video
becaue you couldn't recall the true poster?

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The neodome Bruce wrote:
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>> It was a choice between evils and like many, voted early by mail. By
>> the time the date came, Kamala Harris was my only stopping point on
>> Biden. What I know of her, is not at all comfortable.

>
> So, you actually voted for President Harris. You don't seriously
> expect sleepy Joe to last a term, do you? The Democrats sure don't.


Nancy probably hopes that neither Biden or Harris will stay alive until
the next election. That would make her 3rd in line president. She would
have her first orgasm in 20 years. lol




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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> Term limits has been in the platform before but they never seem to get
> around to enforcing it.


That's one problem I see with our government. Congress gets to make the
laws. Of course they'll never approve of term limits. Why would they
vote to end their cushy jobs? Too many career politicians.

They also get to vote for their own raises and benefits. Parties don't
matter in this respect...both sides benefit.

Anyone question this, do a search of job salary, benefits and retirement
of members of the House or Senate.

This past year+ so many Americans out of jobs or reduced jobs all
struggling to pay their bills and even buy food. Most in Congress came
from "money" or have good retirement from a retired job. They haven't
lost of penny of their salaries or benefits during this pandemic.

Yet they keep dicking around with the "stimulus packages" which will
give hurting people at least a little money to keep going. Not really
all that much.

If you want to blame anyone for things, blame Congress and not any
current President.





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On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:28:36 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> The neodome Bruce wrote:
> > "cshenk" wrote:

>
> >> It was a choice between evils and like many, voted early by mail. By
> >> the time the date came, Kamala Harris was my only stopping point on
> >> Biden. What I know of her, is not at all comfortable.

> >
> > So, you actually voted for President Harris. You don't seriously
> > expect sleepy Joe to last a term, do you? The Democrats sure don't.

>
> Nancy probably hopes that neither Biden or Harris will stay alive until
> the next election. That would make her 3rd in line president. She would
> have her first orgasm in 20 years. lol


Why are Nancy Pelosi and orgasms are connected in your mind?

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On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:29:52 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> > Term limits has been in the platform before but they never seem to get
> > around to enforcing it.

> That's one problem I see with our government. Congress gets to make the
> laws. Of course they'll never approve of term limits. Why would they
> vote to end their cushy jobs? Too many career politicians.


There's no provision for it in federal law, but Michigan enacted term limits
through a ballot initiative. We now have crappy, inexperienced lawmakers
who learn everything they know from lobbyists.

> They also get to vote for their own raises and benefits. Parties don't
> matter in this respect...both sides benefit.
>
> Anyone question this, do a search of job salary, benefits and retirement
> of members of the House or Senate.


Divide that by the number of taxpayers. The result is a tiny figure.

> This past year+ so many Americans out of jobs or reduced jobs all
> struggling to pay their bills and even buy food. Most in Congress came
> from "money" or have good retirement from a retired job. They haven't
> lost of penny of their salaries or benefits during this pandemic.
>
> Yet they keep dicking around with the "stimulus packages" which will
> give hurting people at least a little money to keep going. Not really
> all that much.
>
> If you want to blame anyone for things, blame Congress and not any
> current President.


You can blame the Republicans in Congress for the niggardly benefits.

What's your alternative proposal? Send every adult $31,133 (the
U.S. median income)?

How large a deficit do you want your descendants to pay for?

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On 3/2/2021 8:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 19:47:51 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> > wrote:
>
>> On 3/2/2021 6:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-03-02 5:55 p.m., BryanGSimmons wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> He appears to have no sense of humor.Â* Can you imagine telling your
>>>> aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
>>>> chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs?Â* You wouldn't even
>>>> have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
>>>> know one way or the other.Â* She'd think about it every time she
>>>> brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.
>>>>
>>> I would never tell someone that I had rubbed their toothbrush on my ass.
>>> I would prefer to know that every time they brush their teeth their
>>> would be traces of me on the brush.

>>
>> I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
>> someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.

>
> I feel a new novel coming up, Bryan. You're already elaborating on its
> main theme!
>

Actually, there is a sub-plot in *Winter's Present* that deals with
revenge. It's undoubtedly the most offensive (only offensive?) thing
in the novel.

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On 3/3/2021 3:55 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 03:40:42 -0600, BryanGSimmons
> > wrote:
>
>> On 3/2/2021 8:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 19:47:51 -0600, BryanGSimmons
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 3/2/2021 6:24 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>> On 2021-03-02 5:55 p.m., BryanGSimmons wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> He appears to have no sense of humor.Â* Can you imagine telling your
>>>>>> aunt that you had been rubbing her toothbrush on your asshole every
>>>>>> chance you got, as revenge for feeding you bugs?Â* You wouldn't even
>>>>>> have to have actually done it, because there'd be no way for her to
>>>>>> know one way or the other.Â* She'd think about it every time she
>>>>>> brushed her teeth for the rest of her life.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I would never tell someone that I had rubbed their toothbrush on my ass.
>>>>> I would prefer to know that every time they brush their teeth their
>>>>> would be traces of me on the brush.
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
>>>> someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.
>>>
>>> I feel a new novel coming up, Bryan. You're already elaborating on its
>>> main theme!
>>>

>> Revenge?

>
> No, that's way too big for you. Toothbrushes and anuses.
>
>> That's best kept short. What *would* you do if someone put
>> bugs in food and served it to you?

>
> They didn't put bugs in their food. They fed them something made of
> cricket flour. A food grade, probably FDA approved item, not a
> cockroach they pulled out of their ass.
>

I wouldn't mess with anyone who kept cockroaches in their rectum.
That's hardcore.

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On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 04:05:40 -0600, BryanGSimmons wrote:

> "Oh, and I stuck your chapstick up my girlfriend's ass. I know what
> you're thinking. Yeah, I took the cap off first."


'My girlfriend' is what we call the dog. Another suggestion, please.

Besides, how would an infected human female infect *my* ass?

(That was rhetorical; please don't answer if it's covered in your book.)


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On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 09:28:27 -0500, Gary > wrote:

>The neodome Bruce wrote:
>> "cshenk" wrote:

>
>>> It was a choice between evils and like many, voted early by mail. By
>>> the time the date came, Kamala Harris was my only stopping point on
>>> Biden. What I know of her, is not at all comfortable.

>>
>> So, you actually voted for President Harris. You don't seriously
>> expect sleepy Joe to last a term, do you? The Democrats sure don't.

>
>Nancy probably hopes that neither Biden or Harris will stay alive until
>the next election. That would make her 3rd in line president. She would
>have her first orgasm in 20 years. lol


OMG, what a disturbing picture you paint, Gary. I nearly vomited into
my Crystal Palace smoothie.

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On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 06:47:48 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:28:36 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>> The neodome Bruce wrote:
>> > "cshenk" wrote:

>>
>> >> It was a choice between evils and like many, voted early by mail. By
>> >> the time the date came, Kamala Harris was my only stopping point on
>> >> Biden. What I know of her, is not at all comfortable.
>> >
>> > So, you actually voted for President Harris. You don't seriously
>> > expect sleepy Joe to last a term, do you? The Democrats sure don't.

>>
>> Nancy probably hopes that neither Biden or Harris will stay alive until
>> the next election. That would make her 3rd in line president. She would
>> have her first orgasm in 20 years. lol

>
>Why are Nancy Pelosi and orgasms are connected in your mind?
>
>Cindy Hamilton


Forget about the weird, homoerotic experiences of Bryan and John--- we
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> Actually, there is a sub-plot in *Winter's Present* that deals with
> revenge. It's undoubtedly the most offensive (only offensive?) thing
> in the novel.


If you would, go ahead and quote that Bryan.
Revenge seems to be your passion. Not real revenge but imagined
scenarios about revenge.

That might have been good but I never read that far.

It should have a conflict, a reaction, then a conclusion.
Hopefully focused on actions and not so much conversations.

Many of the better novels have many sub-plots, ie stories within the story.



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On Wed, 03 Mar 2021 04:05:40 -0600, BryanGSimmons wrote:

> "Oh, and I stuck your chapstick up my girlfriend's ass. I know what
> you're thinking. Yeah, I took the cap off first."


'My girlfriend' is what we call the dog. Another suggestion, please.

Besides, how would an infected human female infect *my* ass?

(That was rhetorical; please don't answer if it's covered in your book.)

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On 3/4/2021 9:16 AM, Gary wrote:
> Â*BryanGSimmons wrote:
>> Actually, there is a sub-plot in *Winter's Present* that deals with
>> revenge.Â* It's undoubtedly the most offensive (only offensive?) thing
>> in the novel.

>
> If you would, go ahead and quote that Bryan.
> Revenge seems to be your passion. Not real revenge but imagined
> scenarios about revenge.
>
> That might have been good but I never read that far.
>
> It should have a conflict, a reaction, then a conclusion.
> Hopefully focused on actions and not so much conversations.
>
> Many of the better novels have many sub-plots, ie stories within the story.
>
>

..It's long. This, from earlier in the book describes Ann's
..dysfunctional relationship with her father.

***********
Winter laughed. "No, I didn't mean that, just that you seem more
civilized than the other girls. Anyway, I love living at home. My
parents are great."
"I wish I could say that."
"You don't get along?"
"I haven't spoken to them for months. They're super fundamentalist,
and I don't measure up to their moral standards."
"Because you like girls?"
"Oh, they don't even know about that. They don't like that I don't
go to their church anymore. They don't approve of my political opinions.
They don't like the way I think. I just didn't turn out the way they
wanted me to. Coming here to school crossed another line.€
€œMoving away?€
€œNo. My father hates the Catholic Church, and he saw me accepting a
scholarship to a Catholic university as another betrayal. He thinks
everything is about him."
***********
>

..Now, on to the event.

***********
Ann was preparing for what she expected would be one of the worst
experiences of her life. She was breathing deeply, but she wasn't
asleep, and had heard every word. After today, in all likelihood,
she'd be an orphan. She at least hoped they could part civilly.
She'd give them one last chance to suffer her as she is, or at
least to accept that she'd found love, then it would be over. When
they neared the park, Ann split away from Winter and Ian, who
tarried for a few minutes while she found a bench. The meeting
wasn't to take place for half an hour, but she wanted to give the
impression that she was alone. Ian and Ann ended up occupying the
next bench, which was perhaps thirty-five, forty feet away. When
her parents finally arrived, Ann stood and said, "Hi." The fact that
her father merely nodded didn't bode well. There were to be no
pretenses, and time didn't appear to have softened his heart, so
she began her exercise in futility, "Mom, Dad, I know you're not
happy with some of the directions I've taken in my life, and I
don't expect you to agree with me, but just to accept me."
Her father spoke, "So you want to come back?"
"No," said Ann, "I just want it to be OK with us. I don't expect
to be close, just not hostile."
"Considering that you've done nothing but rebel against me for the
past three years, I think I have the right to be upset with you."
"Dad, I wasn't rebelling against you. I'm finding my own path,
finding out who I am. My relationship with Jesus is still there. I
don't even expect you to like me Dad, or approve of my choices,
and I didn't accept my scholarship to hurt you. I'm just different."
Even from a distance, Ian could see the contempt in the man's
demeanor. It was clear that Ann had been correct. This wasn't
going well.
"I'm queer, alright?" As she spoke those words, she felt false,
because she knew that it was the wrong word, intended to deceive,
to make the argument that she'd had no choice, the appeal that had
won the day with the more fair-minded majority. "I'm in love and
it's with another woman, and I know you think that's sinful, but
I'm just asking. I mean, nobody's perfect."
"Perfect? I think you've done a perfect job. You've dishonored us,
rejected everything holy, and turned your back on God, and you
expect me to accept you?€
€œYes, and no. I don't expect you to think what I'm doing is right.€
€œIt's not right, Ann, and you're not right.€
€œRight?" Ann blurted. €œYou damned well bet I'm not right, and it's
because of you.€
€œHow dare you speak to me that way you Sodomite bitch. You live
your life however you choose. You can go to Hell, and I regret the
day you were born."
Ann burst into tears. He'd told her that she was a mistake, or even
worse, that God had predestined her for Hell. Her plea was almost
audible across the distance between her past and her future,
"Mom?" Ann's entire body was shaking, and Ian, while he couldn't
see her face, was horrified. He wanted to intervene, and Winter
sensed that. She shook her head slightly and put her arm in front
of him, in a gesture that said, "This isn't our fight."
Ann's mother just looked away, and the hurt became anger. Her
mother's complicity was verified, and Ann snapped. Now louder, more
insistent, she barked out, "Mom, you know. I know you do." Through
clenched teeth, she poured out her wrath. "You knew. Those walks
he'd go on in the middle of the night. Yeah, he'd close the front
door, nice and loud, but you heard that he hadn't left. He came to
my room. You want to know why I can't let a man touch me?"
Ann's father yelled, "You liar, you godless liar!"
"Don't bother," Ann shrugged. "She knew," she practically spat the
words over her father's ranting, "You knew, Mom, and you could
have protected..." Ann's words were drowned out by her father's
words.
"****ing liar."
Ann glanced back, and Winter released Ian, who strode toward toward
them hastily, with clenched fists, his eyes locked with Ann's
father's. Ann faced her mother, "**** you, Mom! **** you like he
****ed me," and she turned and walked straight toward Winter,
passing by Ian, who glared at her father, daring him to make one move
toward Ann. Ian wasn't a large man, but Ann's father sensed the
threat of violence, and felt the urge to flee, instinctually grabbing
his wife's upper arm. Ian stopped when he sensed that Ann had passed
out of danger. When Ann and Winter had gone some distance, he
followed. Ann walked, but she didn't speak until they got to the
station. "We're going to the art museum."
Ian called the car rental, and arranged to have them pick up the car
at the station, and when they got on the El, they found a spot where
they could talk privately, at least far enough from the other
passengers that no one would hear anything but snippets. Winter
asked her, "What happened back there?"
Ann said, "I told my mother that my father molested me."
Winter looked anguished, and said, "I'm so sorry. You never told
me. Baby?"
"I'm not a baby, Winter, and I'll never be innocent again. See, it
wasn't true." She gritted her teeth, and her face contorted into
something bordering on ugly. "He never touched me. He never touched
me at all. He never touched me in all the ways that a father should
have touched his daughter. He never told me that I was his beautiful
little girl, and he didn't have any dreams for me beyond handing me
off to another man, and that was to glorify himself. You can't know
how it felt to be me, because you were loved. I'd planned it, but I'd
hoped that I could just walk away, and then, then he told me that he
wished I'd never been born, and my mother turned away like she agreed.
I cut loose."
"But Ann," said Winter, "Nobody lies about that."
"I know, and I was never a lying child. That was the plan. Ian, you
heard what she said to him. Well, my hearing is pretty good and I
heard it too. It was, 'Don't touch me'. There's justice there."
They changed trains without conversation, but once they were seated,
Ann opened up. "I'm sorry you two had to be part of that, but it was
just like Winter told those Texas people. I told my parents to ****
off, and now we're going to the Art Institute, and I'm excited. You
know why?" Not getting an answer, she said, "Because I've never been
there--one more thing that was forbidden." She turned her face to
the window, wordlessly asking for more of the space she'd been given.
Winter and Ian made small talk, much of it centering on Ian's phobias,
and his transcendences, both keeping in mind that Ann, while not
engaging, might be listening. Once they were at street level, on the
sidewalk, Ann insisted on holding hands, with her in the middle.
They snaked through a Chicago Friday afternoon with Winter in the
lead. Winter smiled at folks headed in the opposite direction, and
in many places she'd have felt defiant, announcing her freedom,
but here, in the Loop, no one looked at their little triad with
disdain, and Winter always elicited warmth. When they had to stop at
a crosswalk, Winter, in her best Dorothy, said, "Ian, I have a
feeling we're not in Skokie anymore."
Ann got the reference, but Downtown Chicago was gray, and her mood
subtracted what little color the streets offered, like a fish
swimming past the lures of gaudy commerce. When they crossed Michigan
Avenue, Ann felt the sun, and knowing that she was about to enter a
forbidden sanctuary, tightened her grip on her companions. Her old
world was gone. As they paused at the bottom of the steps, Ann spoke.
"I know it was ugly, what I did, and I hate that you two had to see
it, because you're all I have left."
Winter looked at Ann as lovingly as ever, and embraced her, and Ian
was there too, on her other side. As his cheek slid past hers she
sensed his maleness in the scratch of whiskers, and he said exactly
what her father should have said. It was soft, intended for her ear
only, and quite inaudible to Winter over the hubbub of the people
and the traffic, "No matter what, I'll always love you."
As her two lovers fell away from her, Ann thought of the word,
"lovers." It was a good word. Winter never used it but she should.
That's what they were to her. They loved her. Only an hour after
seeing her at her most unlovable, there they were, loving her.
"So, let's get in there. I want to see all of the wicked things
this great Gomorrah has to offer."
Winter had another interest. "What I want to see is a restaurant,
or snack bar, anything. I'm sure Ian must be famished."
As they laughed together, Ann dared to think, "This might be OK."
Rejoining hands after crossing Michigan Avenue, they processed up
the stairs, and then casually disengaged to enter through the
glass doors. Once inside, the tension faded. Instead of merely
buying tickets, Ian bought Winter and himself a membership, then
insisted on buying Ann her own as well. He knew it was impractical,
and before the money he'd never have done such a thing, but it was
symbolic. Now Ann was free to walk through those doors at will.
Winter had spoken the truth when she'd said he was hungry. "Since
I'm famished, I get to choose." Ian knew exactly where he was going,
and it was to hamburgers. No frou-frou decorated plates, but
substantial food. Ian ordered a double burger. He'd considered
getting two of them, but then thought about the evening, and the
possibilities in the burrito department. Winter thought that sounded
perfect too. Ann asked Ian if she could just share his fries, and he
said, "Sure." Ann was subdued, but didn't seem upset. She only ate
a few French fries. Ian realized that it was late, and they didn't
have much more than an hour until closing. He thought he'd first
take Ann to see American Gothic. That would make anyone smile, partly
because it was familiar. When they approached the painting Ann asked,
"Is that the original?" Ian explained that there were no copies in
the museum; everything on the walls was the original. Winter got he
and Ann to pose in the positions of the characters in the painting.
She insisted that Ann looked more like the woman than she herself did,
to which Ann responded, "Thanks a lot." They walked slowly, stopping
to look at anything that interested one of them, but Ian was headed
for Lauren's favorite painting, Nighthawks. Winter recognized it right
away, and was quite taken with it, but it was new to Ann. She smiled
and said, "It's so, like it's another world, another time. It reminds
me of Superman. That's Clark Kent, and next to him is Lois Lane."
Ian was looking forward to showing them his favorite paintings, a
Bouguereau and a Lefebvre. The two paintings were both nudes, and
they were displayed side by side. They were stunning placed together
that way. When they walked into the room, those two works stood out,
and Winter said, "Wow." It was all she said.
Ann approached the large paintings, first the Bouguereau, where she
lingered for several minutes, then the Lefebvre, and she started to
shake. Luckily, there was an open bench, and she sat, almost falling
back, still trembling, her face contorting. Tears streamed down her
face, but she wasn't crying. When she finally spoke it was in a growl
of rage, "You see what they stole from me? They took that!" The
word, "that," transcended rage. It sounded like pure hate, as she
pointed, her hand shaking almost violently. She slowly began to relax,
and her tremors subsided, replaced by long, slow breaths. After several
more minutes, she inhaled noisily through her nose, exhaled through her
mouth, then said with resignation, shrugging, "It's over."
***********

..Later in the book, Ian and Ann were going to put a wedding announcement
..in the Chicago newspapers, but Winter vetoed the idea because she
..didn't want their wedding tainted by "twisting the knife." Here's the
..proposed text.

***********
Mr. Ian Meadows, of Richmond Heights, Missouri, wishes to announce
the engagement of his dearest friends. This July, in Santa Fe, New
Mexico, Winter Sue Williamson, of Richmond Heights, daughter of
Natalie and Richard Williamson of Kirkwood, Missouri, will be joined
in marriage to Elizabeth Ann (Ann) Schultz, of Richmond Heights,
estranged daughter of Lisa and Thomas Schultz, of Skokie, Illinois.
After the ceremony, Ann will assume the name, Williamson. This will
be a clothing optional event.
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On 3/2/2021 11:28 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Mar 2021 19:47:51 -0600, BryanGSimmons wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't actually rub someone's toothbrush on my asshole; making
>> someone think you did would have a far greater effect on the person.

>
> It sounds like a way to get herpes. I'd need to hear a convincing story I
> could use to explain that to my wife first.
>

Mike, you wash the toothbrush before you rub it on your asshole,
assuming that you are going to rub it on your asshole at all,
rather than just telling the person that you had repeatedly
rubbed it on your asshole, because there's no way that the
person would have to know whether you actually rubbed the
toothbrush on your asshole. In fact, whether or not you had
actually rubbed the toothbrush on your asshole would have no
effect on whether the person who fed you cricket *believed* you
when you told her that you had repeatedly rubbed her toothbrush
on your asshole.

There would be no explaining to your wife, if you were the
hypothetical or real nephew who subsequently married the
girlfriend about herpes. That's not to say that the girlfriend
who was fed the cricket cakes didn't subsequently break up with
you, and you married a different woman who had never been fed
cricket cakes by the crazy aunt. That's also not to say that you
might not have other conflicts with other family members about
telling the aunt that you had repeatedly rubbed her toothbrush
on your asshole, whether or not you *actually* rubbed the
toothbrush on your asshole.

I hope that this clarifies things for you.

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