I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6

Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)

Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.

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Silvar Beitel

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 10:01:08 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>
> Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>
> Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>
> --
> Silvar Beitel

I started making pasties when we went to my brother-in-law's funeral. The family made them because it was a favorite of his and I thought it was a pretty good deal. The filling, like meatloaf, can be practically anything you want. I like to brush egg yolk on the pies before baking for a nice shiny finish.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...Ji3xOOO7a1bhEH

On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:

>I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>
>Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>
>Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.

I need a half dozen right now. Spent the last couple hours getting
new auto and homeowners insurance and dumping the old one.
Then I transferred all my extra money to put in a closer account.
I haven't made breakfast or lunch. I have a refrigerator packed full
of stuff from shopping yesterday. I want some pasties for dinner for
us. Those look good and look hearty.
Janet US

On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> wrote:

>I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>
>Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>
>Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.

It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
contained only meat, onion and potato.

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:33:30 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> I need a half dozen right now. Spent the last couple hours getting
> new auto and homeowners insurance and dumping the old one.
> Then I transferred all my extra money to put in a closer account.
>
> Janet US
>
The burning question is: Did you get to talk to a LIVE person/agent????
If so, pass the secret to speaking to a human at an insurance company
along to John. He's been having great difficulty talking with a living,
breathing person.

;o)

Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> > wrote:
>
> > I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties
> > yesterday.
> >
> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
> >
> > Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't
> > freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
> >
> > Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America
> > Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its
> > discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>
> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
> contained only meat, onion and potato.

Almost everything American came from elsewhere. Ours has more than
meat, onion, and potato.

On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:44:19 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:33:30 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> I need a half dozen right now. Spent the last couple hours getting
>> new auto and homeowners insurance and dumping the old one.
>> Then I transferred all my extra money to put in a closer account.
>>
>> Janet US
>>
>The burning question is: Did you get to talk to a LIVE person/agent????
>If so, pass the secret to speaking to a human at an insurance company
>along to John. He's been having great difficulty talking with a living,
>breathing person.
>
>;o)

yes, I did. Safeco lines were really busy with long waits so they
have a backup agency that handles all the extra calls. I got
significantly better bids than I had before, got all filled out and
processed and had policies 2 hours later -- still with Safeco. BTW,
the agent spoke at an easy pace and he spoke people English, not
insurance gobble de gook. Best insurance experience I've ever had
with insurance.
Janet US

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:01:08 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6

Looks good.

> Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>
> Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.

In the UP the burning question is: Ketchup or gravy?

Cindy Hamilton

On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> > wrote:
> >I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
> >
> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
> >
> >Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
> >
> >Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
> contained only meat, onion and potato.

How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>> > wrote:
>> >I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>> >
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>> >
>> >Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>> >
>> >Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
>> contained only meat, onion and potato.
>
>How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
>had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
>part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.

It just doesn't originate from America. All y'all had a late start so
when something's traditionally American, it may have been
traditionally European for centuries first. Like your American as
apple pie isn't an American invention either

Stick to stuff with corn.

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 5:56:51 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> >> > wrote:
> >> >I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
> >> >
> >> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
> >> >
> >> >Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
> >> >
> >> >Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
> >> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
> >> contained only meat, onion and potato.
> >
> >How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
> >had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
> >part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
> It just doesn't originate from America. All y'all had a late start so
> when something's traditionally American, it may have been
> traditionally European for centuries first. Like your American as
> apple pie isn't an American invention either
>
> Stick to stuff with corn.

Fine. We're taking back tomatoes, chiles, potatoes, and chocolate. Nobody else
can claim "tradition" when those ingredients are used.

Cindy Hamilton

On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 03:04:53 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 5:56:51 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>> >> >
>> >> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>> >> >
>> >> >Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>> >> >
>> >> >Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>> >> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
>> >> contained only meat, onion and potato.
>> >
>> >How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
>> >had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
>> >part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
>> It just doesn't originate from America. All y'all had a late start so
>> when something's traditionally American, it may have been
>> traditionally European for centuries first. Like your American as
>> apple pie isn't an American invention either
>>
>> Stick to stuff with corn.
>
>Fine. We're taking back tomatoes, chiles, potatoes, and chocolate. Nobody else
>can claim "tradition" when those ingredients are used.

"We're taking back?" Were there even Americans yet?

Bruce wrote:
>
> when something's traditionally American, it may have been
> traditionally European for centuries first. Like your American as
> apple pie isn't an American invention either

True enough. Americans just fixed the old recipes and some
of the language spelling too.

On Thu, 08 Oct 2020 06:44:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> when something's traditionally American, it may have been
>> traditionally European for centuries first. Like your American as
>> apple pie isn't an American invention either
>
>True enough. Americans just fixed the old recipes and some
>of the language spelling too.

You mainly added lots of sugar

On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>> > wrote:
>> >I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>> >
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>> >
>> >Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>> >
>> >Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
>> contained only meat, onion and potato.
>
>How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
>had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
>part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
>
>Cindy Hamilton

That's a very Trumpish retort - the word 'American' could be used
instead of 'traditional' -

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
....
> In the UP the burning question is: Ketchup or gravy?

now you're making me hungry. the ones i was used to getting
i'd not put anything on at all they were so good. the meat
version had swedes/rutabagas, potatoes, carrots, onions,
ground beast and some light seasoning (salt and pepper).
the crust was excellent (i normally can skip crusts). the
vegetarian version was cheese, brocolli, onion, potatoes,
swedes/rutabagas, and the crust was whole wheat, which again
was excellent. the lady who made them really took great
pride in her efforts and the results were appreciated the
additional great thing was that the price was very reasonable
so i could get them once a week at least and they weighed in
pretty well i think it was at least 12oz, but it could have
been even more than that. they were pretty large.

when she retired from making them it was a sad day. i
never met her, but i often passed my compliments along to
her through the store staff where i bought them.

spoiled me though for others, i've never found ones that
were as good.


songbird

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>> > wrote:
>> >I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>> >
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>> >
>> >Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>> >
>> >Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
>> contained only meat, onion and potato.
>
> How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
> had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
> part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.

that's where i was. Houghton, MI, spent 15yrs up there.


songbird

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 7:09:48 AM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> >On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> >> > wrote:
> >> >I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
> >> >
> >> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
> >> >
> >> >Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
> >> >
> >> >Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
> >> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
> >> contained only meat, onion and potato.
> >
> >How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
> >had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
> >part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
> That's a very Trumpish retort - the word 'American' could be used
> instead of 'traditional' -

I thought "American" meant "with sweet corn".

Cindy Hamilton

Lucretia Borgia formulated the question :
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>>> > wrote:
>>>> I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze
>>>> disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook,
>>>> which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American
>>>> foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>>> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
>>> contained only meat, onion and potato.
>>
>> How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper
>> Peninsula had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their
>> pasties became part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also
>> American.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> That's a very Trumpish retort -
>
You really are an anti-American ****, just
like Bruce.

Jill

Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
> >On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> >> > wrote:
> >> >I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
> >> >
> >> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
> >> >
> >> >Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
> >> >
> >> >Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
> >> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
> >> contained only meat, onion and potato.
> >
> >How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
> >had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
> >part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
> >
> >Cindy Hamilton
> That's a very Trumpish retort - the word 'American' could be used
> instead of 'traditional' -


"Michigan" is in "America"...

--
Best
Greg

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 12:19:33 PM UTC-4, songbird wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> ...
> > In the UP the burning question is: Ketchup or gravy?
> now you're making me hungry. the ones i was used to getting
> i'd not put anything on at all they were so good.

I like a good pasty plain, but I'd not turn down some nice gravy
with it.

In any event, I probably could only eat half a pasty nowadays. I
suppose they could be made smaller, but that would ruin the
crust-to-filling ratio.

Cindy Hamilton

On 2020-10-08 6:44 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> when something's traditionally American, it may have been
>> traditionally European for centuries first. Like your American as
>> apple pie isn't an American invention either
>
> True enough. Americans just fixed the old recipes and some
> of the language spelling too.
>

You need more than an inability to spell in order to claim a language.

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 1:29:27 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-10-08 6:44 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> when something's traditionally American, it may have been
> >> traditionally European for centuries first. Like your American as
> >> apple pie isn't an American invention either
> >
> > True enough. Americans just fixed the old recipes and some
> > of the language spelling too.
> >
> You need more than an inability to spell in order to claim a language.

A lot of the old recipes predate standardized (or standardised) spelling.
Someone on either side of the pond might see fit to adjust the spelling.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/7/2020 4:01 PM, Silvar Beitel wrote:
> I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>
> Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>
> Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>
Those look fantastic!

Jill

On 10/7/2020 4:43 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> > wrote:
>
>> I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>>
>> Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>>
>> Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>
> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
> contained only meat, onion and potato.
>
Picking at nits. UP means "Upper Pennisula", not a typo for UK. Most
"traditional" food in the US is a result of immigration; I suspect the
recipe originated with immigrants froom Cornwall and were adapted over
the course of time.

Jill

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 1:46:52 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 10/7/2020 4:43 PM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
> >>
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
> >>
> >> Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
> >>
> >> Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
> >
> > It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
> > contained only meat, onion and potato.
> >
> Picking at nits. UP means "Upper Pennisula", not a typo for UK. Most
> "traditional" food in the US is a result of immigration; I suspect the
> recipe originated with immigrants froom Cornwall and were adapted over
> the course of time.
>
> Jill

Incidentally, rutabaga is a good adaptation. Make it more interesting than
all potato.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/8/2020 7:09 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>>> > wrote:
>>>> I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>>> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
>>> contained only meat, onion and potato.
>>
>> How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
>> had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
>> part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> That's a very Trumpish retort - the word 'American' could be used
> instead of 'traditional' -
>
Here we go again with Lucretia trying to drag Trump into something that
has nothing to do with Silvar's post about food. Cornish miners,
immigrants who brought a tradition of food with them and it was adapted
over the years. It has nothing to do with Trump so please STFU about him.

Jill

On 10/8/2020 8:36 AM, songbird wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>>> > wrote:
>>>> I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>>> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
>>> contained only meat, onion and potato.
>>
>> How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
>> had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
>> part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
>
> that's where i was. Houghton, MI, spent 15yrs up there.
>
>
> songbird
>
Lucretia doesn't want to hear about it. She loves to take every
opportunity to bash the US. Notice the mentions of Trump? Trump didn't
have a thing to do with the pasties Silvar cooked.

Jill

On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 16:05:10 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/8/2020 7:09 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
>>>> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
>>>> contained only meat, onion and potato.
>>>
>>> How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
>>> had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
>>> part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> That's a very Trumpish retort - the word 'American' could be used
>> instead of 'traditional' -
>>
>Here we go again with Lucretia trying to drag Trump into something that
>has nothing to do with Silvar's post about food. Cornish miners,
>immigrants who brought a tradition of food with them and it was adapted
>over the years. It has nothing to do with Trump so please STFU about him.

Immigrants are very Trumpy.

On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 16:15:18 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 10/8/2020 8:36 AM, songbird wrote:
>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>>> How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
>>> had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
>>> part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
>>
>> that's where i was. Houghton, MI, spent 15yrs up there.
>>
>>
>> songbird
>>
>Lucretia doesn't want to hear about it. She loves to take every
>opportunity to bash the US. Notice the mentions of Trump? Trump didn't
>have a thing to do with the pasties Silvar cooked.

Why do you bring Trump into this? This is a cooking newsgroup.

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:19:34 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> >> > wrote:
> >> >I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
> >> >
> >> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
> >> >
> >> >Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
> >> >
> >> >Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
> >> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
> >> contained only meat, onion and potato.
> >
> > How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
> > had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
> > part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
>
> that's where i was. Houghton, MI, spent 15yrs up there.
>
>
> songbird

Michigan sounds like a dangerous place.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/08/fbi-th...n-gov-whitmer/

Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 16:15:18 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 10/8/2020 8:36 AM, songbird wrote:
>>> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>>> How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
>>>> had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
>>>> part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
>>>
>>> that's where i was. Houghton, MI, spent 15yrs up there.
>>>
>>>
>>> songbird
>>>
>> Lucretia doesn't want to hear about it. She loves to take every
>> opportunity to bash the US. Notice the mentions of Trump? Trump didn't
>> have a thing to do with the pasties Silvar cooked.
>
> Why do you bring Trump into this? This is a cooking newsgroup.
>

What? I thought it was just an ass sniffing newsgroup for you.

Besides, yoose think trump is an ass as much as I do.

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 4:05:18 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On 10/8/2020 7:09 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 Oct 2020 02:48:01 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>> I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
> >>>>
> >>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
> >>> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
> >>> contained only meat, onion and potato.
> >>
> >> How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
> >> had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
> >> part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
> >>
> >> Cindy Hamilton
> >
> > That's a very Trumpish retort - the word 'American' could be used
> > instead of 'traditional' -
> >
> Here we go again with Lucretia trying to drag Trump into something that
> has nothing to do with Silvar's post about food.

That should be good. Or are you now ashamed of Trump?

On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:19:34 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 4:43:38 PM UTC-4, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT), Silvar Beitel
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >I finally got around to making traditional Cornish/UP pasties yesterday.
> > >> >
> > >> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/4ZvZYRTSLy4t1ncJ6
> > >> >
> > >> >Sorry, no final photo of the cooked insides; the one I didn't freeze disappeared before I remembered to take a picture. :-)
> > >> >
> > >> >Recipe from the Better Homes and Gardens Heritage of America Cookbook, which is worth having (used, old, cheap!) for its discussions of American foodways and lots of "classic" recipes.
> > >> It's hardly a traditional US dish, it's Cornish as in UK and
> > >> contained only meat, onion and potato.
> > >
> > > How would you know what's traditional in the U.S.? Michigan's Upper Peninsula
> > > had a bunch of Cornish miners come in to mine the copper and their pasties became
> > > part of the overall culture. Yes, Cornish. But also American.
> >
> > that's where i was. Houghton, MI, spent 15yrs up there.
> >
> >
> > songbird
> Michigan sounds like a dangerous place.
>
> https://nypost.com/2020/10/08/fbi-th...n-gov-whitmer/

Only if you're a female governor whose policies to reduce the spread of coronavirus
are unpopular with big babies who won't wear a mask.

If you'd read a more reputable news source (although the NY Post isn't the worst),
you'd learn it was a multi-state militia effort and that other kidnappings were planned.

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 02:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:19:34 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
>> >
>> > that's where i was. Houghton, MI, spent 15yrs up there.
>> >
>> >
>> > songbird
>> Michigan sounds like a dangerous place.
>>
>> https://nypost.com/2020/10/08/fbi-th...n-gov-whitmer/
>
>Only if you're a female governor whose policies to reduce the spread of coronavirus
>are unpopular with big babies who won't wear a mask.
>
>If you'd read a more reputable news source (although the NY Post isn't the worst),
>you'd learn it was a multi-state militia effort and that other kidnappings were planned.

Is the general consensus in the US that Trump's now completely losing
the plot? That's the impression that comes across here.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Is the general consensus in the US that Trump's now completely losing
> the plot? That's the impression that comes across here.

I suspect so, Bruce. I only speak for myself but imo, the
fellow has gone nutcase. He runs his Tweeting mouth each
night and shoots another round into his foot.

Reminds me of:
"I only open my mouth to switch feet."

He embarrassed himself in the first debate and now he's
refusing the 2nd debate unless it's in person again.
He has no respect for wearing masks. Idiot.

I always thought he might win just because of the constant
democrat bullying all these years. I do think that even
some Trump supporters are at least raising their eyebrows
now.

Joke: Just like Nancy did 4 years ago. haha

I'm now thinking he might lose by a large margin, rather
than a close race.

On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 6:06:15 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 02:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> >> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:19:34 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
> >> >
> >> > that's where i was. Houghton, MI, spent 15yrs up there.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > songbird
> >> Michigan sounds like a dangerous place.
> >>
> >> https://nypost.com/2020/10/08/fbi-th...n-gov-whitmer/
> >
> >Only if you're a female governor whose policies to reduce the spread of coronavirus
> >are unpopular with big babies who won't wear a mask.
> >
> >If you'd read a more reputable news source (although the NY Post isn't the worst),
> >you'd learn it was a multi-state militia effort and that other kidnappings were planned.
> Is the general consensus in the US that Trump's now completely losing
> the plot? That's the impression that comes across here.

There's no consensus. More than a third of Americans still think he can do no wrong.

My favorite headline was this:

We Have Entered the €œHoward Hughes Storing His Own Urine€� Stage of the Trump Presidency

From slate.com

Cindy Hamilton

On Fri, 09 Oct 2020 07:29:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Is the general consensus in the US that Trump's now completely losing
>> the plot? That's the impression that comes across here.
>
>I suspect so, Bruce. I only speak for myself but imo, the
>fellow has gone nutcase. He runs his Tweeting mouth each
>night and shoots another round into his foot.
>
>Reminds me of:
>"I only open my mouth to switch feet."
>
>He embarrassed himself in the first debate and now he's
>refusing the 2nd debate unless it's in person again.
>He has no respect for wearing masks. Idiot.
>
>I always thought he might win just because of the constant
>democrat bullying all these years. I do think that even
>some Trump supporters are at least raising their eyebrows
>now.
>
>Joke: Just like Nancy did 4 years ago. haha
>
>I'm now thinking he might lose by a large margin, rather
>than a close race.

I see one of the drugs he received contains cells derived from
'voluntary abortions' - so he also switches his views on things when
it suits him.

On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 05:43:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Friday, October 9, 2020 at 6:06:15 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 02:45:19 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, October 8, 2020 at 6:19:34 AM UTC-10, songbird wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > that's where i was. Houghton, MI, spent 15yrs up there.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > songbird
>> >> Michigan sounds like a dangerous place.
>> >>
>> >> https://nypost.com/2020/10/08/fbi-th...n-gov-whitmer/
>> >
>> >Only if you're a female governor whose policies to reduce the spread of coronavirus
>> >are unpopular with big babies who won't wear a mask.
>> >
>> >If you'd read a more reputable news source (although the NY Post isn't the worst),
>> >you'd learn it was a multi-state militia effort and that other kidnappings were planned.
>> Is the general consensus in the US that Trump's now completely losing
>> the plot? That's the impression that comes across here.
>
>There's no consensus. More than a third of Americans still think he can do no wrong.
>
>My favorite headline was this:
>
>We Have Entered the “Howard Hughes Storing His Own Urine” Stage of the Trump Presidency
>
>From slate.com
>
>Cindy Hamilton

Lol that's interesting but of course Hughes wasn't president so it
didn't really matter.

On 10/9/2020 5:54 AM, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Oct 2020 07:29:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>> Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Is the general consensus in the US that Trump's now completely losing
>>> the plot? That's the impression that comes across here.
>>
>> I suspect so, Bruce. I only speak for myself but imo, the
>> fellow has gone nutcase. He runs his Tweeting mouth each
>> night and shoots another round into his foot.
>>
>> Reminds me of:
>> "I only open my mouth to switch feet."
>>
>> He embarrassed himself in the first debate and now he's
>> refusing the 2nd debate unless it's in person again.
>> He has no respect for wearing masks. Idiot.
>>
>> I always thought he might win just because of the constant
>> democrat bullying all these years. I do think that even
>> some Trump supporters are at least raising their eyebrows
>> now.
>>
>> Joke: Just like Nancy did 4 years ago. haha
>>
>> I'm now thinking he might lose by a large margin, rather
>> than a close race.
>
> I see one of the drugs he received contains cells derived from
> 'voluntary abortions' - so he also switches his views on things when
> it suits him.
>


Fake news! No surprise.