On 2020-08-23 11:36 p.m., U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:02:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:07:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>> Our diet has changed. Because I'm only supposed to shop
>>>> once every two weeks,
>>> snip
>>>
>>> We covered your "I'm only supposed to shop
>>> once every two weeks" here, in rfc, many months ago. You may shop
>>> whenever you want to, no one is checking on you. I know that you are
>>> going out of your home for other reasons more than once every two
>>> weeks. You don't get it -- it is advised that you limit your travel
>>> from one place to another unless necessary. It has nothing to do with
>>> food shopping.
>>
>> We are supposed to do the right thing. *I* eo not feel free to shop whenever
>> I want.Do you listen to Governor Inslee? I can't see why you would as he's
>> not your Governor. I don't know what you asre told to do or not to do where
>> you live. I don't keep up with every state. I have no reason to.
>>
>>> Julie, you have the same shopping opportunities that others in the
>>> Pacific Northwest do. There is no food shortage now. You can find
>>> all varieties of raw, fresh meat and all goods now just as you could
>>> before Covid-19.
>>
>> Not at the stores I shop at. I know what's there and what's not. I don't eat
>> ham or pork unless it's bacon. I don't eat meat with salt water added. I
>> won't buy giant packages. You don't know what's in my stores. You don't shop
>> here!
>>
>> And no I *can't* find all goods. The Walmart Neighborhood Market had no
>> laundry soap or cleaning products of any kind except for toilet bowl and
>> glass cleaner the last time I was there. They had no one ply toilet paper.
>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>> They are often out of the canned goods I want, the pasta sauce, no paper
>> towels of any kind. And yes, they are still rationing paper and cleaning
>> products.
>>
>>> You are sounding silly
>>
>> No. You are sounding silly as you seem to think every city in the PNW is the
>> same. They're not.
>
> I am sorry for you.
>
I think that we're all sorry for her!

On 8/24/2020 1:36 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:02:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:07:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> snip
>>> Our diet has changed. Because I'm only supposed to shop
>>>> once every two weeks,
>>> snip
>>>
>>> We covered your "I'm only supposed to shop
>>> once every two weeks" here, in rfc, many months ago. You may shop
>>> whenever you want to, no one is checking on you. I know that you are
>>> going out of your home for other reasons more than once every two
>>> weeks. You don't get it -- it is advised that you limit your travel
>>> from one place to another unless necessary. It has nothing to do with
>>> food shopping.
>>
>> We are supposed to do the right thing. *I* eo not feel free to shop whenever
>> I want .Do you listen to Governor Inslee? I can't see why you would as he's
>> not your Governor. I don't know what you asre told to do or not to do where
>> you live. I don't keep up with every state. I have no reason to.
>>
>>> Julie, you have the same shopping opportunities that others in the
>>> Pacific Northwest do. There is no food shortage now. You can find
>>> all varieties of raw, fresh meat and all goods now just as you could
>>> before Covid-19.
>>
>> Not at the stores I shop at. I know what's there and what's not. I don't eat
>> ham or pork unless it's bacon. I don't eat meat with salt water added. I
>> won't buy giant packages. You don't know what's in my stores. You don't shop
>> here!
>>
>> And no I *can't* find all goods. The Walmart Neighborhood Market had no
>> laundry soap or cleaning products of any kind except for toilet bowl and
>> glass cleaner the last time I was there. They had no one ply toilet paper.
>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>> They are often out of the canned goods I want, the pasta sauce, no paper
>> towels of any kind. And yes, they are still rationing paper and cleaning
>> products.
>>
>>> You are sounding silly
>>
>> No. You are sounding silly as you seem to think every city in the PNW is the
>> same. They're not.
>
> I am sorry for you.
>
She creates her own problems.

Jill

On 8/24/2020 5:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Leo" > wrote in message
> vidual.Net...
>> On 2020 Aug 23, , Julie Bove wrote
>> (in article >):
>>
>>> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals
>>> who are
>>> trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I can't
>>> speak
>>> for those in other areas.
>>>
>>> We don't have a lot of Republicans here but there's a big push to vote
>>> Republican to get Inslee out of office. He is sitting back, telling
>>> us al,
>>> to stay home and ignoring all the problems going on around us. Wash your
>>> hands, wear your mask, stay home. All will be fine. Ha!
>>>
>>> I don't usually go on political rants but I'm disgusting with the huge
>>> amounts of drug dealers and homeless people here and something needs
>>> to be
>>> done!
>>
>> Aww, Julie, you just warmed the cockles of my heart. I wonder how many
>> other
>> people in Washington State feel the way you do?
>
> Quite a few! We've just had 4 families move out on this street within 5
> houses of me either direction and one more house up for sale. We have to
> call the cops almost daily for the drug deals. They might arrest them,
> but they are back out on the streets the next day.

I thought people weren't allowed to move? (oh wait, can't be evicted).
You've always complained about drug dealers in your neighborhood.

Jill

Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 05:53:08 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 1:34:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> do you wear your mask and gloves? Then you are not contributing to
>>>> spread of Covid-19. You need to sit down and get your facts straight.
>>>
>>> Gloves? We're not supposed to wear gloves! Gloves pick up germs and spread
>>> them.
>>>
>> Gloves are a personal choice in every state. Besides, stupid, don't you
>> think your hands are spreading germs when you pick up and item?
>>>
>>> Everyone is required to wear a mask here in public places and that includes
>>> outdoors. We face a $1,000 if we do not. And you are not allowed into any
>>> public place without one. No, that's not a law but we can still be fined for
>>> it.
>>>
>> Yet MORE lies from our resident attention whore.
>
> Calm down. The 12 year old in you is taking over again.
>

<*SNIFF*>

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:58:46 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:11:31 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
> >> >(in >):
> >> >
> >> >> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
> >> >> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
> >> >> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
> >> >
> >> >Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
> >> >is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at a
> >> >hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
> >>
> >> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
> >> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
> >> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
> >> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
> >> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
> >
> >I don't think it's strange. Covid-19 just happened during a critical point in
> >an election year. The 2020 election was always going to be a dirty,
> >contentious, war.
>
> I wasn't just referring to the US.
>
> > It's a world war. The Ruskies want their man running the US because
> > they love that America seems to in confused disarray and on the brink
> > of a civil war. The Chinese are mostly looking for economic
> > stability.
>
> If only that was all they wanted.

What else do they want?

On 8/24/2020 2:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:58:46 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:11:31 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>>> (in >):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
>>>>> is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at a
>>>>> hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>>>
>>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's strange. Covid-19 just happened during a critical point in
>>> an election year. The 2020 election was always going to be a dirty,
>>> contentious, war.
>>
>> I wasn't just referring to the US.
>>
>>> It's a world war. The Ruskies want their man running the US because
>>> they love that America seems to in confused disarray and on the brink
>>> of a civil war. The Chinese are mostly looking for economic
>>> stability.
>>
>> If only that was all they wanted.
>
> What else do they want?
>


The entire South Asia Sea, for one thing.

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 11:44:51 AM UTC-10, Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 8/24/2020 2:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:58:46 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:11:31 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
> >>>>> (in >):
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
> >>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
> >>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
> >>>>> is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at a
> >>>>> hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
> >>>>
> >>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
> >>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
> >>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
> >>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
> >>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
> >>>
> >>> I don't think it's strange. Covid-19 just happened during a critical point in
> >>> an election year. The 2020 election was always going to be a dirty,
> >>> contentious, war.
> >>
> >> I wasn't just referring to the US.
> >>
> >>> It's a world war. The Ruskies want their man running the US because
> >>> they love that America seems to in confused disarray and on the brink
> >>> of a civil war. The Chinese are mostly looking for economic
> >>> stability.
> >>
> >> If only that was all they wanted.
> >
> > What else do they want?
> >
>
>
> The entire South Asia Sea, for one thing.

Probably, but that's about all. My guess is that they're gonna get it.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:43:13 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:58:46 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I don't think it's strange. Covid-19 just happened during a critical point in
>> >an election year. The 2020 election was always going to be a dirty,
>> >contentious, war.
>>
>> I wasn't just referring to the US.
>>
>> > It's a world war. The Ruskies want their man running the US because
>> > they love that America seems to in confused disarray and on the brink
>> > of a civil war. The Chinese are mostly looking for economic
>> > stability.
>>
>> If only that was all they wanted.
>
>What else do they want?

World domination, and not just economical. Admiring the Chinese, like
you do, is like admiring the Nazis in the 30s.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:44:48 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 8/24/2020 2:43 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:58:46 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:11:31 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>>>> (in >):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
>>>>>> is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at a
>>>>>> hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>>>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>>>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>>>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>>>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it's strange. Covid-19 just happened during a critical point in
>>>> an election year. The 2020 election was always going to be a dirty,
>>>> contentious, war.
>>>
>>> I wasn't just referring to the US.
>>>
>>>> It's a world war. The Ruskies want their man running the US because
>>>> they love that America seems to in confused disarray and on the brink
>>>> of a civil war. The Chinese are mostly looking for economic
>>>> stability.
>>>
>>> If only that was all they wanted.
>>
>> What else do they want?
>>
>
>
>The entire South Asia Sea, for one thing.

Yes.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:16:24 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/24/2020 5:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Leo" > wrote in message
>> vidual.Net...

>>> Aww, Julie, you just warmed the cockles of my heart. I wonder how many
>>> other
>>> people in Washington State feel the way you do?
>>
>> Quite a few! We've just had 4 families move out on this street within 5
>> houses of me either direction and one more house up for sale. We have to
>> call the cops almost daily for the drug deals. They might arrest them,
>> but they are back out on the streets the next day.
>
>I thought people weren't allowed to move? (oh wait, can't be evicted).
>You've always complained about drug dealers in your neighborhood.

I wonder if that's also a big problem in gated communities.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> >> I don't usually go on political rants but I'm disgusting with the huge
>> >> amounts of drug dealers and homeless people here and something needs
>> >> to
>> >> be
>> >> done!
>> Quite a few! We've just had 4 families move out on this street within 5
>> houses of me either direction and one more house up for sale. We have to
>> call the cops almost daily for the drug deals. They might arrest them,
>> but
>> they are back out on the streets the next day.
>
> heh heh In a different tread you just told me that the police
> aren't arresting anyone now in Bothell. Social distancing
> and all that.
>
> Anyway, your crime ridden neighborhood explains why you
> can't get any food deliveries now.

They're generally not.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/24/2020 5:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Leo" > wrote in message
>> vidual.Net...
>>> On 2020 Aug 23, , Julie Bove wrote
>>> (in article >):
>>>
>>>> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
>>>> are
>>>> trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I can't
>>>> speak
>>>> for those in other areas.
>>>>
>>>> We don't have a lot of Republicans here but there's a big push to vote
>>>> Republican to get Inslee out of office. He is sitting back, telling us
>>>> al,
>>>> to stay home and ignoring all the problems going on around us. Wash
>>>> your
>>>> hands, wear your mask, stay home. All will be fine. Ha!
>>>>
>>>> I don't usually go on political rants but I'm disgusting with the huge
>>>> amounts of drug dealers and homeless people here and something needs to
>>>> be
>>>> done!
>>>
>>> Aww, Julie, you just warmed the cockles of my heart. I wonder how many
>>> other
>>> people in Washington State feel the way you do?
>>
>> Quite a few! We've just had 4 families move out on this street within 5
>> houses of me either direction and one more house up for sale. We have to
>> call the cops almost daily for the drug deals. They might arrest them,
>> but they are back out on the streets the next day.
>
> I thought people weren't allowed to move? (oh wait, can't be evicted).
> You've always complained about drug dealers in your neighborhood.

I have NOT always complained about drug dealers here. This was a sleepy
little farm town when I moved in.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:16:24 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 8/24/2020 5:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Leo" > wrote in message
>>> vidual.Net...
>
>>>> Aww, Julie, you just warmed the cockles of my heart. I wonder how many
>>>> other
>>>> people in Washington State feel the way you do?
>>>
>>> Quite a few! We've just had 4 families move out on this street within 5
>>> houses of me either direction and one more house up for sale. We have to
>>> call the cops almost daily for the drug deals. They might arrest them,
>>> but they are back out on the streets the next day.
>>
>>I thought people weren't allowed to move? (oh wait, can't be evicted).
>>You've always complained about drug dealers in your neighborhood.
>
> I wonder if that's also a big problem in gated communities.

Of course not. But I wouldn't live in a gated community. For one thing, I
couldn't afford it. For another, you're not allowed much freedom.Too many
rules to comply to.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
> wrote:
>
>>On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>(in >):
>>
>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>
>>Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
>>is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at
>>a
>>hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>
> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.

It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions will
be lifted once the election is over.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Gary" wrote:
>> > Get arrested. The cops have no problem with fingerprinting
>> > you.
>> >
>> Ha! They're not arresting people here as a general rule. They don't want
>> people in jail. Come here and shoplift all you want. You'll get away with
>> it. You can also speed, vandalize homes... It's all good now.
>
> This would be a good time to go steal a couple of jars
> of that expensive "Just Mayo"

It's not available in jars. Just the small bottles. And it's not in any
brick and mortar stores.
>
> If it's mail order, just pay by credit card. Once it's
> delivered, cancel the purchase and claim you never
> received it. The cops won't care.

Mail order rarely comes from Bothell.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> Gloves? We're not supposed to wear gloves! Gloves pick up germs and
>> spread
>> them.
>
> So do your fingers. I do agree
> that gloves are worthless but wearing them has never been
> recommended either. Just wash your hands after being out
> in public before touching your eyes, nose, mouth.
>>
>> I have seen enough evidence to know that the masks are worthless when it
>> comes to Covid.
>
> No you haven't.
> Even the best N95 masks are not fail safe. They were never
> intended to protect from a virus. However, they certainly
> do help so no need to shun them. They are not worthless.
> It's the best defense we have right now.

The reason medical professionals wear masks is for the off chance that they
might sneeze or cough. It keeps the bodily fluids contained.

With most masks, you can blow out candle or match through them. If you can
do that, it's not going to stop those teensy little germs.

Angela is only allowed one N95 mask per week. That's not good! Normally they
are changed with every patient. She also has to wear a face shield now.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-08-24 8:03 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> Bruce wrote:
>
>>> Crap (fast) food will make you gain weight more than a bowl of quinoa
>>> with chia seeds and cranberries.
>>
>> I'm only talking calories vs calories. That's what matters
>> when it comes to gaining or losing weight. Equal calories
>> of either doesn't matter.
>>
>> You can gain or lose weight with either food.
>> Obviously, healthy calories are better.
>>
>
> I have been getting lots of dietery advicesthe last few days. It seems
> some of us who have heart issues get too much salt into our bodies and it
> sucks water. The water adds weight and volume. I have lost 8 pounds in
> three days.... all water.

That might explain my swelling. My body keeps getting low in sodium so I
have to eat more of it! I had lost weight, thorn it suddenly shot up.

My weight went down 12 pounds last time I was in the hospital. It seems when
I lie down for most of the day, I don't swell. Once I am up and walking
again, I swell.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>(in >):
>>>
>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>
>>>I’m certainly right-wing. I can’t speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
>>>is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at
>>>a
>>>hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>
>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>
>It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions will
>be lifted once the election is over.

do you even understand what the restrictions are for? Why we have
them?
Janet US

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>(in >):
>>>
>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>
>>>Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
>>>is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at
>>>a
>>>hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>
>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>
>It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions will
>be lifted once the election is over.

But if the restrictions are lifted, covid goes rampant again. Every
country that tries to go back to normal, gets a new wave of it and
then has to lock down again. We need a vaccine.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:42:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:16:24 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 8/24/2020 5:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Leo" > wrote in message
>>>> vidual.Net...
>>
>>>>> Aww, Julie, you just warmed the cockles of my heart. I wonder how many
>>>>> other
>>>>> people in Washington State feel the way you do?
>>>>
>>>> Quite a few! We've just had 4 families move out on this street within 5
>>>> houses of me either direction and one more house up for sale. We have to
>>>> call the cops almost daily for the drug deals. They might arrest them,
>>>> but they are back out on the streets the next day.
>>>
>>>I thought people weren't allowed to move? (oh wait, can't be evicted).
>>>You've always complained about drug dealers in your neighborhood.
>>
>> I wonder if that's also a big problem in gated communities.
>
>Of course not. But I wouldn't live in a gated community. For one thing, I
>couldn't afford it. For another, you're not allowed much freedom.Too many
>rules to comply to.

Yes, for one thing, they check how often you mow your grass.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:10:26 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/24/2020 1:36 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:02:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:07:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>> Our diet has changed. Because I'm only supposed to shop
>>>>> once every two weeks,
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> We covered your "I'm only supposed to shop
>>>> once every two weeks" here, in rfc, many months ago. You may shop
>>>> whenever you want to, no one is checking on you. I know that you are
>>>> going out of your home for other reasons more than once every two
>>>> weeks. You don't get it -- it is advised that you limit your travel
>>>> from one place to another unless necessary. It has nothing to do with
>>>> food shopping.
>>>
>>> We are supposed to do the right thing. *I* eo not feel free to shop whenever
>>> I want .Do you listen to Governor Inslee? I can't see why you would as he's
>>> not your Governor. I don't know what you asre told to do or not to do where
>>> you live. I don't keep up with every state. I have no reason to.
>>>
>>>> Julie, you have the same shopping opportunities that others in the
>>>> Pacific Northwest do. There is no food shortage now. You can find
>>>> all varieties of raw, fresh meat and all goods now just as you could
>>>> before Covid-19.
>>>
>>> Not at the stores I shop at. I know what's there and what's not. I don't eat
>>> ham or pork unless it's bacon. I don't eat meat with salt water added. I
>>> won't buy giant packages. You don't know what's in my stores. You don't shop
>>> here!
>>>
>>> And no I *can't* find all goods. The Walmart Neighborhood Market had no
>>> laundry soap or cleaning products of any kind except for toilet bowl and
>>> glass cleaner the last time I was there. They had no one ply toilet paper.
>>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>>> They are often out of the canned goods I want, the pasta sauce, no paper
>>> towels of any kind. And yes, they are still rationing paper and cleaning
>>> products.
>>>
>>>> You are sounding silly
>>>
>>> No. You are sounding silly as you seem to think every city in the PNW is the
>>> same. They're not.
>>
>> I am sorry for you.
>>
>She creates her own problems.
>
>Jill

the only place her problems exist is in her own mind as she scrambles
to fix any loopholes in her insurmountable woes.
Janet US

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 05:43:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
>>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 12:30:18 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:08:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >I rarely shop in Bothell. I can't afford the prices here except for
>>> >Dollar
>>> >Tree. I used to shop at Winco but they have cut their staff and I can't
>>> >stand in line for as long as is needed. Angela stood in line for 2
>>> >hours. By
>>> >then, frozen food is melted.
>>> >
>>> >I mostly shop at the Walmart Neighborhood Market now. That's in
>>> >Lynnwood.
>>> >They do not stock their shelves at night and they have no back stock of
>>> >most
>>> >items. At the time I shop, they are always stocking the shelves.
>>> >Sometimes I
>>> >can find what I want on a pallet. I've learned to look there.
>>>
>>> 2 hours, Julie? That's a whopper of a tale.
>>> Walmart is very pleasant to shop online and then have them bring the
>>> groceries to your vehicle. The Walmart shoppers will get all your
>>> stuff for you. Everything is kept cold or frozen if appropriate until
>>> you arrive for pickup. Albertsons is also easy to shop online and
>>> have the groceries brought to your car. I have never had something
>>> missing from my shopping list at Walmart but I have had out of stock
>>> items at Albertsons. Costco is also easy to shop online. Any of the
>>> 3 stores I mentioned will deliver to your door, no delivery charge if
>>> you meet their minimum shopping total. There are all kinds of avenues
>>> available to you for food,
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! You're making w.a.y. too much sense.
>>Besides,
>>don't you know online shopping is not allowed in Washington state; it's
>>simply not done, none of the stores you mentioned above don't do that in
>>her state. The governor won't allow it, she'll be arrested, the state
>>will
>>be put on lockdown again and the gardener stole her car.
>
> that actually turned out to be her argument! It isn't allowed.
> Janet US

I never said that. I said that curbside pickup had been stopped and they
only resumed it few weeks ago. I said that the stores that delivered, never
had any delivery slots available and some just stopped delivering unless you
were already an established delivery customer.

I also said that Walmart does not deliver in this area but... When I looked
at the Website again, it now says "New! Delivery!" It costs $12.95 per month
or less if you pay for a year in advance. The cost alone would prohibit me
from doing it. And... I don't know if they would deliver to me a I live a
good 7+ miles from the store, depending on what route you take.

I order paper goods, cleaning supplies and non perishable groceries from
Walmart. Target and Family Dollar all the time.

> wrote in message
...
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 1:34:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > do you wear your mask and gloves? Then you are not contributing to
>> > spread of Covid-19. You need to sit down and get your facts straight.
>>
>> Gloves? We're not supposed to wear gloves! Gloves pick up germs and
>> spread
>> them.
>>
> Gloves are a personal choice in every state. Besides, stupid, don't you
> think your hands are spreading germs when you pick up and item?

If we pick up an item, we are supposed to buy it. We are not supposed to
look at something and then put it back. If we decide not to take an item ast
the check out stand. they can not put it back on the shrlf. I know people
violate. In fact they hsve proven that the virus is not likely spread from
touching things. Food handlers are required to wear gloves. Some of the
cashiers at Walmart wear them but they always have. It was never suggested
thst the rest of us wear them.
>>
>> Everyone is required to wear a mask here in public places and that
>> includes
>> outdoors. We face a $1,000 if we do not. And you are not allowed into any
>> public place without one. No, that's not a law but we can still be fined
>> for
>> it.
>>
> Yet MORE lies from our resident attention whore. I just read about 6 news
> articles coming from Washington state. Not wearing a mask is a
> misdemeanor
> and the police and sheriffs association said they would NOT be issuing
> tickets if you don't comply. Instead, they would be educating people why
> they should wear a mask.

Correct. They said they would not but... The Governor is still saying that
we can be fined.
>>
>> I have seen enough evidence to know that the masks are worthless when it
>> comes to Covid. But... I've got to be a sheeple on this because I don't
>> want
>> to get fined.
>>
> Ju-Ju, you've not seen any evidence of anything. You are too stupid to
> grasp anything.

Bye.

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
>> are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I can't
>> speak for those in other areas.
>
> You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are so
> far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
> dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.

Oh yeah? This woman ran as a Democrat twice and won. She's part of the
reason we had CHOP. She supported and helped them. We are trying to get her
thrown out. She's bad news.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant

And what about Bernie Sanders? Another Socialist running as a Democrat.
>
>>
>> We don't have a lot of Republicans here but there's a big push to vote
>> Republican to get Inslee out of office. He is sitting back, telling us
>> al, to stay home and ignoring all the problems going on around us. Wash
>> your hands, wear your mask, stay home. All will be fine. Ha!
>>
> You really do have a screw loose!

You don't live here. You don't know.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/24/2020 1:36 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:02:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:07:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>> Our diet has changed. Because I'm only supposed to shop
>>>>> once every two weeks,
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> We covered your "I'm only supposed to shop
>>>> once every two weeks" here, in rfc, many months ago. You may shop
>>>> whenever you want to, no one is checking on you. I know that you are
>>>> going out of your home for other reasons more than once every two
>>>> weeks. You don't get it -- it is advised that you limit your travel
>>>> from one place to another unless necessary. It has nothing to do with
>>>> food shopping.
>>>
>>> We are supposed to do the right thing. *I* eo not feel free to shop
>>> whenever
>>> I want .Do you listen to Governor Inslee? I can't see why you would as
>>> he's
>>> not your Governor. I don't know what you asre told to do or not to do
>>> where
>>> you live. I don't keep up with every state. I have no reason to.
>>>
>>>> Julie, you have the same shopping opportunities that others in the
>>>> Pacific Northwest do. There is no food shortage now. You can find
>>>> all varieties of raw, fresh meat and all goods now just as you could
>>>> before Covid-19.
>>>
>>> Not at the stores I shop at. I know what's there and what's not. I don't
>>> eat
>>> ham or pork unless it's bacon. I don't eat meat with salt water added. I
>>> won't buy giant packages. You don't know what's in my stores. You don't
>>> shop
>>> here!
>>>
>>> And no I *can't* find all goods. The Walmart Neighborhood Market had no
>>> laundry soap or cleaning products of any kind except for toilet bowl and
>>> glass cleaner the last time I was there. They had no one ply toilet
>>> paper.
>>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>>> They are often out of the canned goods I want, the pasta sauce, no paper
>>> towels of any kind. And yes, they are still rationing paper and cleaning
>>> products.
>>>
>>>> You are sounding silly
>>>
>>> No. You are sounding silly as you seem to think every city in the PNW is
>>> the
>>> same. They're not.
>>
>> I am sorry for you.
>>
> She creates her own problems.

Really? How did I get Walmart to be out of Just Mayo?

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:17:54 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"graham" > wrote in message
...
>> On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
>>> are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I can't
>>> speak for those in other areas.
>>
>> You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are so
>> far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
>> dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.
>
>Oh yeah? This woman ran as a Democrat twice and won. She's part of the
>reason we had CHOP. She supported and helped them. We are trying to get her
>thrown out. She's bad news.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kshama_Sawant
>
>And what about Bernie Sanders? Another Socialist running as a Democrat.

socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates
that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be
owned or regulated by the community as a whole.

In other words: individuals are not allowed to own companies,
machines, distribution channels or anything else that's part of any
kind of production.

Is there any even slightly successful American politician who wants
that? Does Bernie want that? Does Pocahontas want that?

On 8/24/2020 4:01 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>> (in >):
>>>>
>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>>
>>>> Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
>>>> is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at
>>>> a
>>>> hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>>
>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>>
>> It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions will
>> be lifted once the election is over.
>
> But if the restrictions are lifted, covid goes rampant again. Every
> country that tries to go back to normal, gets a new wave of it and
> then has to lock down again. We need a vaccine.
>


I haven't seen Covid going "rampant" in the US, except possibly in NYC
at the outset. Cases does not equate to rampant.

Need herd immunity. We are ruining the economy and people lives to try
to stamp out every last infection, and that was never the goal.

Need to replace the narrow minded immunologist with an honest to
goodness epidemiologist.

Need to get the news media to STFU if they don't have any FACTS to provide.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:31:29 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 8/24/2020 4:01 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>>> (in >):
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>>>
>>>>> Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
>>>>> is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at
>>>>> a
>>>>> hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>>>
>>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>>>
>>> It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions will
>>> be lifted once the election is over.
>>
>> But if the restrictions are lifted, covid goes rampant again. Every
>> country that tries to go back to normal, gets a new wave of it and
>> then has to lock down again. We need a vaccine.
>>
>I haven't seen Covid going "rampant" in the US, except possibly in NYC
>at the outset. Cases does not equate to rampant.

Cases do not equate rampant?

>Need herd immunity. We are ruining the economy and people lives to try
>to stamp out every last infection, and that was never the goal.

If you'd be going for herd immunity, you'd get a whole lot more
casualties on top of what the US already has.

>Need to replace the narrow minded immunologist with an honest to
>goodness epidemiologist.

You just want to hear him say what suits you, but that wouldn't be
very scientific, would it?

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 6:12:41 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > Gloves are a personal choice in every state. Besides, stupid, don't you
> > think your hands are spreading germs when you pick up and item?
>
> If we pick up an item, we are supposed to buy it. We are not supposed to
> look at something and then put it back. If we decide not to take an item ast
> the check out stand. they can not put it back on the shrlf. I know people
> violate. In fact they hsve proven that the virus is not likely spread from
> touching things. Food handlers are required to wear gloves. Some of the
> cashiers at Walmart wear them but they always have. It was never suggested
> thst the rest of us wear them.
> >>
Yet a.n.o.t.h.e.r. l.i.e. Don't you get tired of just outright lying?
You are going to burn in Hell with the number of lies you consistently
tell. You n.e.v.e.r. seem to tire of spreading total lies, never. I know
you are the stupidest person in Washington state but I would also like to
think you don't actually believe people are trotting to the front of the
store every 2 minutes continually handing over an item they have touched.
You would not be able to wade through the store with all the 'returned
items.'

Please, just STOP the with the incessant lying.
>
> >> Everyone is required to wear a mask here in public places and that
> >> includes
> >> outdoors. We face a $1,000 if we do not. And you are not allowed into any
> >> public place without one. No, that's not a law but we can still be fined
> >> for
> >> it.
> >>
> > Yet MORE lies from our resident attention whore. I just read about 6 news
> > articles coming from Washington state. Not wearing a mask is a
> > misdemeanor
> > and the police and sheriffs association said they would NOT be issuing
> > tickets if you don't comply. Instead, they would be educating people why
> > they should wear a mask.
>
> Correct. They said they would not but... The Governor is still saying that
> we can be fined.
> >>
Lying, lying, lying. Always lying.
>
> >> I have seen enough evidence to know that the masks are worthless when it
> >> comes to Covid. But... I've got to be a sheeple on this because I don't
> >> want
> >> to get fined.
> >>
> > Ju-Ju, you've not seen any evidence of anything. You are too stupid to
> > grasp anything.
>
> Bye.
>
Do us all a favor, stick your head in your oven. Pronto.

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 12:15:55 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:43:13 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:58:46 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >I don't think it's strange. Covid-19 just happened during a critical point in
> >> >an election year. The 2020 election was always going to be a dirty,
> >> >contentious, war.
> >>
> >> I wasn't just referring to the US.
> >>
> >> > It's a world war. The Ruskies want their man running the US because
> >> > they love that America seems to in confused disarray and on the brink
> >> > of a civil war. The Chinese are mostly looking for economic
> >> > stability.
> >>
> >> If only that was all they wanted.
> >
> >What else do they want?
>
> World domination, and not just economical. Admiring the Chinese, like
> you do, is like admiring the Nazis in the 30s.

You don't know what I think of the Chinese. I do like to cook Chinese. So what? I don't like to give out my personal feelings about things. Mostly, I just stick with the facts and have been telling you numbskulls for a decade to never underestimate the Chinese. All ya'alls just think they're funny lookin' people that talk funny. That's really dumb.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec....k/8xd5RQb9KQMJ

wrote:

> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 6:12:41 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > > Gloves are a personal choice in every state. Besides, stupid,
> > > don't you think your hands are spreading germs when you pick up
> > > and item?
> >
> > If we pick up an item, we are supposed to buy it. We are not
> > supposed to look at something and then put it back. If we decide
> > not to take an item ast the check out stand. they can not put it
> > back on the shrlf. I know people violate. In fact they hsve proven
> > that the virus is not likely spread from touching things. Food
> > handlers are required to wear gloves. Some of the cashiers at
> > Walmart wear them but they always have. It was never suggested thst
> > the rest of us wear them.
> > > >
> Yet a.n.o.t.h.e.r. l.i.e. Don't you get tired of just outright lying?
> You are going to burn in Hell with the number of lies you consistently
> tell. You n.e.v.e.r. seem to tire of spreading total lies, never. I
> know you are the stupidest person in Washington state but I would
> also like to think you don't actually believe people are trotting to
> the front of the store every 2 minutes continually handing over an
> item they have touched. You would not be able to wade through the
> store with all the 'returned items.'
>
> Please, just STOP the with the incessant lying.
> >
> > >> Everyone is required to wear a mask here in public places and
> > that >> includes
> > >> outdoors. We face a $1,000 if we do not. And you are not allowed
> > into any >> public place without one. No, that's not a law but we
> > can still be fined >> for
> > >> it.
> > > >
> > > Yet MORE lies from our resident attention whore. I just read
> > > about 6 news articles coming from Washington state. Not wearing
> > > a mask is a misdemeanor
> > > and the police and sheriffs association said they would NOT be
> > > issuing tickets if you don't comply. Instead, they would be
> > > educating people why they should wear a mask.
> >
> > Correct. They said they would not but... The Governor is still
> > saying that we can be fined.
> > > >
> Lying, lying, lying. Always lying.
> >
> > >> I have seen enough evidence to know that the masks are worthless
> > when it >> comes to Covid. But... I've got to be a sheeple on this
> > because I don't >> want
> > >> to get fined.
> > > >
> > > Ju-Ju, you've not seen any evidence of anything. You are too
> > > stupid to grasp anything.
> >
> > Bye.
> >
> Do us all a favor, stick your head in your oven. Pronto.

Although fancifully put, there *are* recommendations to not handle
products if not sure you will buy them. If you need to check the
nutrition label, supposed to minimally handle to turn it around.

While there seem no known infecions from handling groceries, there is a
grey zone where door knobs and such can carry it. CDC recommends
washing hands after grocery shopping. Excess precaution? Maybe but
harmless.

*Preferred* in VA was to shop every 2 weeks if reasonably possible. No
fines or checks on it and you could shop every day if you wanted to,
but they *asked politely* that we minimize the number of trips per
month. Recommended was every 2 weeks as optimal to still have fresh
veggies and fruits.

Julie exaggurates, but not as bad as some claim here.

Business *owners* here are subject to fines if a client is found
inside, not wearing a mask. It's not all that enforced, but it's
growing as folks start avoiding the 'mask free stores'. Some have
literally lost their business (Bars that tried to stay open and were
not abiding by the distancing). Those fines I am told can be 10,000$
or more?

On 2020-08-24 5:17 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:

>>> We don't have a lot of Republicans here but there's a big push to
>>> vote Republican to get Inslee out of office. He is sitting back,
>>> telling us al, to stay home and ignoring all the problems going on
>>> around us. Wash your hands, wear your mask, stay home. All will be
>>> fine. Ha!
>>>
>> You really do have a screw loose!
>
> You don't live here. You don't know.

I don't have to to recognize an imbecile!

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:42:11 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:16:24 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 8/24/2020 5:06 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Leo" > wrote in message
>>>>> vidual.Net...
>>>
>>>>>> Aww, Julie, you just warmed the cockles of my heart. I wonder how
>>>>>> many
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> people in Washington State feel the way you do?
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite a few! We've just had 4 families move out on this street within
>>>>> 5
>>>>> houses of me either direction and one more house up for sale. We have
>>>>> to
>>>>> call the cops almost daily for the drug deals. They might arrest them,
>>>>> but they are back out on the streets the next day.
>>>>
>>>>I thought people weren't allowed to move? (oh wait, can't be evicted).
>>>>You've always complained about drug dealers in your neighborhood.
>>>
>>> I wonder if that's also a big problem in gated communities.
>>
>>Of course not. But I wouldn't live in a gated community. For one thing, I
>>couldn't afford it. For another, you're not allowed much freedom.Too many
>>rules to comply to.
>
> Yes, for one thing, they check how often you mow your grass.

And what's in the grass. There is a community near here where you can't have
clover.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>>(in >):
>>>>
>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>>
>>>>I'm certainly right-wing. I can't speak for anyone else. If
>>>>enlightenment
>>>>is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed
>>>>at
>>>>a
>>>>hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>>
>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>>
>>It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions
>>will
>>be lifted once the election is over.
>
> do you even understand what the restrictions are for? Why we have
> them?

Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.

Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:41:55 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> > On 8/23/2020 11:50 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:07:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> snip
> >> Our diet has changed. Because I'm only supposed to shop
> >>> once every two weeks,
> >> snip
> >>
> >> We covered your "I'm only supposed to shop
> >> once every two weeks" here, in rfc, many months ago. You may shop
> >> whenever you want to, no one is checking on you. I know that you
> are >> going out of your home for other reasons more than once every
> two >> weeks. You don't get it -- it is advised that you limit your
> travel >> from one place to another unless necessary. It has nothing
> to do with >> food shopping.
> >> Julie, you have the same shopping opportunities that others in the
> >> Pacific Northwest do. There is no food shortage now. You can find
> >> all varieties of raw, fresh meat and all goods now just as you
> could >> before Covid-19.
> >> You are sounding silly
> >> Janet US
> >>
> > I don't think she understands anything about what's going on.
> > There may be some supply issues (Just Mayo, anyone?) but that's a
> > store problem, not a government mandate. As far as I can tell,
> > there is no law saying anyone in the state of Washington (and
> > specifically Snonomish County) that people are only allowed to shop
> > once every two weeks.
> >
> > Jill
>
> And even if I only wanted to shop just once a month when that mayo or
> anything else I wanted was at the store I'd buy 2-3 to put on a shelf
> at home. Julies only shortage is brain cells.

There is no law about it, just recommendations.

Because we like fresh fruit and veggies, 2 weeks is about as long as we
go between trips to the grocery. The rain and heat was all messed up
here for my container garden so cropped little. Some green stuff, but
well past flower and set fruit for the year. Even the lettuce died out
this time.

Carol

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>>(in >):
>>>>
>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>>
>>>>Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If
>>>>enlightenment
>>>>is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed
>>>>at
>>>>a
>>>>hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>>
>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>>
>>It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions
>>will
>>be lifted once the election is over.
>
> But if the restrictions are lifted, covid goes rampant again. Every
> country that tries to go back to normal, gets a new wave of it and
> then has to lock down again. We need a vaccine.

Ha There will not be an effective vaccine. I do understand the social
distancing although I'm not sure that's effective. I don't understand why
most large stores are allowed to be open, but smaller ones can not be. There
is likely to be less customers in a small store. I don't understand why we
could mow our own lawns, but not someone else's lawn for pay. That can be
done totally contactless. I don't understand why nail salons and tattoo
parlors are considered essential businesses. Too much of what they did here
and are still doing, makes no sense.

U.S. Janet B. wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:40:03 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >
> >> On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 7:47:45 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B.
> wrote: >> > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:57:40 -0400, jmcquown
> > >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On 8/23/2020 1:10 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> > >> ...
> >> > >>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:47:08 -0400, songbird
> >> > > >>> wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > >>>> Julie Bove wrote:
> >> > >>>> ...
> >> > >>>>> when or if they'll be allowed to reopen. Many people are
> >> > starving >>>>> and the
> >> > >>>>> regulations are leading to stupidity. Crops can't be picked
> >> > or >>>>> transported
> >> > >>>>> so the food is rotting while people are starving. There
> will >> > be a >>>>> revolt
> >> > >>>>> here. People are fed up!
> >> > > > > >
> >> > >>>> *i don't see anything in the news about anyone starving.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > >>>> *around here they are saying they're going to harvest 22.5
> >> > million >>>> bushels of apples this year.* pretty much the same
> as >> > last year.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > >>>> *the previous trips to the store i didn't see many more
> skinny >> > >>>> people either.* the usual chubby folks walking
> around buying >> > junk >>>> food.
> >> > > > >
> >> > >>> Ah yes, the fast food hippos!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I heard on the radio that people are treating this as a
> vacation >> > and on >> a vacation, all rules fly out the window.
> >> > >>
> >> > > What radio? If you're talking about people not being able to go
> >> > > to work, perhaps people are making the best of things working
> >> > > from home. They aren't starving. They aren't treating a
> >> > > pandemic like a vacation.
> >> > >
> >> > >> This concept makes no sense to me. I hate eating crap food. it
> >> > makes me >> feel lousy, so I just don't eat it. I do get tacos
> from >> > time to time. >> No, not Taco Bell with their beef
> enhanced with >> > oats. Yick.
> >> > >
> >> > > No one is being forced to eat crappy food. Buy into Bruce's
> idea >> > > of a bunch of fat people eating crappy food and mention
> Taco Bell >> > > in the same breath, what does that say? I recall
> you mentioning >> > > buying nachos with cheese sauce when shopping
> at some place >> > > (Target? Walmart?) years ago. That's not
> healthy food yet you >> > > bought and ate it from whatever the place
> was waaaay before >> > > Covid-19 showed up.
> >> > >
> >> > > No wonder you didn't feel good if that's the kind of thing you
> >> > > ate every time you went shopping with Angela. You say you're
> >> > > exercising more now and losing weight. Good for you! Better
> for >> > > your diabetes and GERD and your overall health.
> >> > >
> >> > > Jill
> >> >
> >> > she listens to and buys into all the Right-Wing propaganda.
> >>
> >> Women who are married to hardass, sexist men often adopt their
> >> politics and social views, and hang onto them even after they
> realize >> that the husbands were assholes, and get them out of their
> lives. My >> late sister, my much loved late sister, who was in
> every other way a >> great person, bought into that right-wing crap.
> All three of her >> offspring are progressives. The youngest, the
> only child of the >> right-wing asshole husband, is militant
> progressive to the point that >> he and I even have differences.
> He's a smart person, and a >> successful small business owner, but
> he's gung-ho anti Democratic >> Party establishment.
> >>
> >> > Janet US
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >
> > You flip flop too much to follow here. Democrats are right wing.
> > Democrats are into 'how much free stuff can I get'. Most business
> > owners tend to republican leanings since they are more about the
> > economy and making a little bit of profit possible instead of free
> > handouts.
>
> So sorry, but Republicans are the right wing.
> Janet US

Whoops! Sorry, yes.

"Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
...
On 8/24/2020 4:01 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 15:44:06 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>>>> (in >):
>>>>
>>>>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>>>>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>>>>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>>>>
>>>> Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If
>>>> enlightenment
>>>> is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed
>>>> at
>>>> a
>>>> hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>>
>>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>>
>> It's very political in this country.Some people think the restrictions
>> will
>> be lifted once the election is over.
>
> But if the restrictions are lifted, covid goes rampant again. Every
> country that tries to go back to normal, gets a new wave of it and
> then has to lock down again. We need a vaccine.
>


I haven't seen Covid going "rampant" in the US, except possibly in NYC
at the outset. Cases does not equate to rampant.

---

And we can't trust the figures we are given. If they were to rattle off
figures on the flu on a daily basis, people would freak about that. But they
don't. They are bombarding us to keep us frightened.

I do have friends/relatives in the medical community. I do know people who
had it including Nick Cordero. I was getting updates from his wife at least
daily. I think he was one of the most extreme cases. Very sad.

---

Need herd immunity. We are ruining the economy and people lives to try
to stamp out every last infection, and that was never the goal.

---

Not sure that works in this case as most of the people I know have had it
twice. I don't believe the testing is asccurate either. Is it a case of lots
of false positives or just symptomless people?

---

Need to replace the narrow minded immunologist with an honest to
goodness epidemiologist.

---

Yes.
---

Need to get the news media to STFU if they don't have any FACTS to provide.

---

Right. It's all speculation, just like politics. our Governor said each
person that has it can only infect one more person. That's laughable.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:10:26 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 8/24/2020 1:36 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:02:12 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>>>> news >>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:07:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> snip
>>>>> Our diet has changed. Because I'm only supposed to shop
>>>>>> once every two weeks,
>>>>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>> We covered your "I'm only supposed to shop
>>>>> once every two weeks" here, in rfc, many months ago. You may shop
>>>>> whenever you want to, no one is checking on you. I know that you are
>>>>> going out of your home for other reasons more than once every two
>>>>> weeks. You don't get it -- it is advised that you limit your travel
>>>>> from one place to another unless necessary. It has nothing to do with
>>>>> food shopping.
>>>>
>>>> We are supposed to do the right thing. *I* eo not feel free to shop
>>>> whenever
>>>> I want .Do you listen to Governor Inslee? I can't see why you would as
>>>> he's
>>>> not your Governor. I don't know what you asre told to do or not to do
>>>> where
>>>> you live. I don't keep up with every state. I have no reason to.
>>>>
>>>>> Julie, you have the same shopping opportunities that others in the
>>>>> Pacific Northwest do. There is no food shortage now. You can find
>>>>> all varieties of raw, fresh meat and all goods now just as you could
>>>>> before Covid-19.
>>>>
>>>> Not at the stores I shop at. I know what's there and what's not. I
>>>> don't eat
>>>> ham or pork unless it's bacon. I don't eat meat with salt water added.
>>>> I
>>>> won't buy giant packages. You don't know what's in my stores. You don't
>>>> shop
>>>> here!
>>>>
>>>> And no I *can't* find all goods. The Walmart Neighborhood Market had no
>>>> laundry soap or cleaning products of any kind except for toilet bowl
>>>> and
>>>> glass cleaner the last time I was there. They had no one ply toilet
>>>> paper.
>>>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>>>> They are often out of the canned goods I want, the pasta sauce, no
>>>> paper
>>>> towels of any kind. And yes, they are still rationing paper and
>>>> cleaning
>>>> products.
>>>>
>>>>> You are sounding silly
>>>>
>>>> No. You are sounding silly as you seem to think every city in the PNW
>>>> is the
>>>> same. They're not.
>>>
>>> I am sorry for you.
>>>
>>She creates her own problems.
>>
>>Jill
>
> the only place her problems exist is in her own mind as she scrambles
> to fix any loopholes in her insurmountable woes.
> Janet US

You people are pathetic. Get a life!

"cshenk" > wrote in message
...
> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 6:12:41 PM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> >
>> > > Gloves are a personal choice in every state. Besides, stupid,
>> > > don't you think your hands are spreading germs when you pick up
>> > > and item?
>> >
>> > If we pick up an item, we are supposed to buy it. We are not
>> > supposed to look at something and then put it back. If we decide
>> > not to take an item ast the check out stand. they can not put it
>> > back on the shrlf. I know people violate. In fact they hsve proven
>> > that the virus is not likely spread from touching things. Food
>> > handlers are required to wear gloves. Some of the cashiers at
>> > Walmart wear them but they always have. It was never suggested thst
>> > the rest of us wear them.
>> > > >
>> Yet a.n.o.t.h.e.r. l.i.e. Don't you get tired of just outright lying?
>> You are going to burn in Hell with the number of lies you consistently
>> tell. You n.e.v.e.r. seem to tire of spreading total lies, never. I
>> know you are the stupidest person in Washington state but I would
>> also like to think you don't actually believe people are trotting to
>> the front of the store every 2 minutes continually handing over an
>> item they have touched. You would not be able to wade through the
>> store with all the 'returned items.'
>>
>> Please, just STOP the with the incessant lying.
>> >
>> > >> Everyone is required to wear a mask here in public places and
>> > that >> includes
>> > >> outdoors. We face a $1,000 if we do not. And you are not allowed
>> > into any >> public place without one. No, that's not a law but we
>> > can still be fined >> for
>> > >> it.
>> > > >
>> > > Yet MORE lies from our resident attention whore. I just read
>> > > about 6 news articles coming from Washington state. Not wearing
>> > > a mask is a misdemeanor
>> > > and the police and sheriffs association said they would NOT be
>> > > issuing tickets if you don't comply. Instead, they would be
>> > > educating people why they should wear a mask.
>> >
>> > Correct. They said they would not but... The Governor is still
>> > saying that we can be fined.
>> > > >
>> Lying, lying, lying. Always lying.
>> >
>> > >> I have seen enough evidence to know that the masks are worthless
>> > when it >> comes to Covid. But... I've got to be a sheeple on this
>> > because I don't >> want
>> > >> to get fined.
>> > > >
>> > > Ju-Ju, you've not seen any evidence of anything. You are too
>> > > stupid to grasp anything.
>> >
>> > Bye.
>> >
>> Do us all a favor, stick your head in your oven. Pronto.
>
> Although fancifully put, there *are* recommendations to not handle
> products if not sure you will buy them. If you need to check the
> nutrition label, supposed to minimally handle to turn it around.
>
> While there seem no known infecions from handling groceries, there is a
> grey zone where door knobs and such can carry it. CDC recommends
> washing hands after grocery shopping. Excess precaution? Maybe but
> harmless.
>
> *Preferred* in VA was to shop every 2 weeks if reasonably possible. No
> fines or checks on it and you could shop every day if you wanted to,
> but they *asked politely* that we minimize the number of trips per
> month. Recommended was every 2 weeks as optimal to still have fresh
> veggies and fruits.
>
> Julie exaggurates, but not as bad as some claim here.
>
> Business *owners* here are subject to fines if a client is found
> inside, not wearing a mask. It's not all that enforced, but it's
> growing as folks start avoiding the 'mask free stores'. Some have
> literally lost their business (Bars that tried to stay open and were
> not abiding by the distancing). Those fines I am told can be 10,000$
> or more?

*Many* businesses here have been closed for not following the guidelines and
fights have broken out over the masks. Sometimes verbal, sometimes physical.

My friend works at the business Costco. An old man picked a fight because he
was denied entry for not wearing a mask. And this was prior to the Governor
making them mandatory. Costco had made them mandatory. The whipped his male
member out and peed. Crazy!