"Bruce" wrote in message ...

On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 15:17:41 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 11:21:05 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>
>> I don't quite understand Joan's furious hatred of Julie.
>> She spits venom all over her keyboard and monitor when she
>> writes.
>>
>I despise the bitch because I have n.e.v.e.r. met anyone who lies with
>such impunity DAILY. She's been caught in lie after lie after lie after
>lie and then she will turn around and deny she typed it even after she
>has been shown she typed it. Then she just flips it off with "I don't
>remember."
>
>People try to help the retarded asshole and every single attempt is
>rejected.
>Tell my Gary, when was the last time she was offered help and accepted it?
>No need to wrack your pea brain, I'll answer it for you. N E V E R.
>
>Then the equally ignorant OhFeelMe rushes to her defense when she doesn't
>have half of what the nitwit has written then denied. But you go right
>ahead, suck up to Ju-Ju, stroke her ego, offer her help, and then wait for
>it to be thrown back in your face. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

Easy if you feel that way: don't offer her help and get on with your
life.

====

Awww has the lonely old j.o.j.o started to have NASTY go about me again
LOL

It is sad to know i am so i.m.p.o.r.t.a.n.t to her although she is
a.n.n.o.y.i.n.g old c.ow!!! No wonder she s alone. Why would anyone WANT
to be with her.

Oh and just to add, why would ANYONE want to get help from HER.?????????

On 8/26/2020 11:29 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> Back to security guards in gated communities dealing drugs? Not where I
>> live.
>
> Not necessary. Any druggies in your old ppl neighborhood are
> addicted to legally obtained prescription drugs.
>
Quite likely. BTW, I have new neighbors next door and across the street.
They're no older than you are.

Jill

"Julie Bove" wrote in message ...


> wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 11:21:05 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>
>> I don't quite understand Joan's furious hatred of Julie.
>> She spits venom all over her keyboard and monitor when she
>> writes.
>>
> I despise the bitch because I have n.e.v.e.r. met anyone who lies with
> such impunity DAILY. She's been caught in lie after lie after lie after
> lie and then she will turn around and deny she typed it even after she
> has been shown she typed it. Then she just flips it off with "I don't
> remember."

Now *that's* a lie. What really happens is you or one of your dogpile gang
twists what I say. The others run with it twisting it more and more, then
you'll refer back to your own lies, remembering what each other said but
claiming thast *I* said it.
>
> People try to help the retarded asshole and every single attempt is
> rejected.
> Tell my Gary, when was the last time she was offered help and accepted it?
> No need to wrack your pea brain, I'll answer it for you. N E V E R.

Again, not true. I thanked tert for putting up the Walmart link that now
shows the button to click for the "Get in stock" notice for the Just Mayo.

What does happen is people offering me advice when I never asked for advice
then taking offense when I don't do what they say.
>
> Then the equally ignorant OhFeelMe rushes to her defense when she doesn't
> have half of what the nitwit has written then denied. But you go right
> ahead, suck up to Ju-Ju, stroke her ego, offer her help, and then wait for
> it to be thrown back in your face. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

You're just a nasty piece of work. I'm glad you live far from me.

===

Amen to that!!!!

writes:
>
>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>> writes:
>>>
>>>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>>>> writes:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gawd, woman! Haven't you heard? There's a pandemic raging that has
>>>>>> killed
>>>>>> close to 180,000 people in the USA and you think it's a conspiracy?
>>>>>> You really are an idiot!
>>>>>
>>>>>There's a pandemic and it has killed people. Do I believe those numbers?
>>>>>No.
>>>>>They've admitted that most of the people who died were listed as having
>>>>>it
>>>>>if they were tested for it. They didn't bother to find the real cause of
>>>>>death.
>>>>>
>>>>>If they just were tested or even inquired about it at some Drs.. they
>>>>>were
>>>>>listed as having it. We can't believe the numbers.
>>>>>
>>>>>We've had other pandemics. Nobody was on lockdown there. Businesses were
>>>>>not
>>>>>forced to close.
>>>>>
>>>>>Keep buying into it. That's what they want.
>>>>
>>>> Of course you are wrong about how cause of death is determined. There
>>>> are plenty of issues with death statistics but the main issue with
>>>> COVID-19 death reporting is that it is mostly likely UNDERreported
>>>> in the U.S. Belgium has a more responsible approach.
>>>>
>>>> Julie, please read this page carefully. There are a lot of words and it
>>>> may be difficult to understand, but there is a graph at the bottom of
>>>> the page that shows clearly what all the words are saying.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm
>>>>
>>>> The idea is that there is a certain number of deaths that can be
>>>> expected from all causes. This number is remarkably stable (like
>>>> toilet paper consumption) and you can see from the graph that it
>>>> has some annual patterns where the death rate is higher in winter
>>>> than summer.
>>>>
>>>> You will see from the graph that starting in the week ending March 28,
>>>> 2020, the observed number of deaths exceeded the expected number of
>>>> deaths. This has been the case for every week since March 28.
>>>>
>>>> This doesn't say that all of the excess deaths are from COVID-19 but
>>>> that is the most likely suspect in the absence of any other known cause.
>>>>
>>>> I will suspect you will find some paranoid reason to reject this
>>>> explanation. I'm not sure what harm all of you snowflakes find in
>>>> wearing a mask. I can understand why a 3-year-old might not get it,
>>>> but adults should know better.
>>>
>>>I don't trust the CDC and won't read what they write. I do have friends
>>>ion
>>>the medical field and I know what they tell me.
>>
>> I'd love to hear your reasons for not trusting the CDC.
>>
>> How about IHME? They'll tell you the same thing.
>
>I have no clue what that is. I can't tell you why I don't trust the CDC. I
>just don't.

IHME = Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation

Go to this page and search for the header "There are reports of deaths
being under-reported in places. How does this impact your forecast?"

http://www.healthdata.org/covid/faqs#Deaths

Seems to me you need to consider the possibility that, in the absence of
a compelling reason (or any reason at all), it is an error on your part
not to trust the CDC.

Do you know when you stopped trusting the CDC? Did you ever trust the
CDC?

Why would the CDC want to mislead the public?

I'm also curious to know why you think Gov Inslee would want to shut
down business and reduce state governmental tax revenues.

Honestly, you come across as having not thought through these things
very carefully. And that is fine - not thinking is a common feature
among people. But usually if you share the results of not thinking,
people are going to know you are dim. So you might want to keep it
to yourself.

"cshenk" wrote in message
...

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 11:21:05 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > >
> > > I don't quite understand Joan's furious hatred of Julie.
> > > She spits venom all over her keyboard and monitor when she
> > > writes.
> > >
> > I despise the bitch because I have n.e.v.e.r. met anyone who lies
> > with such impunity DAILY. She's been caught in lie after lie after
> > lie after lie and then she will turn around and deny she typed it
> > even after she has been shown she typed it. Then she just flips it
> > off with "I don't remember."
>
> Now that's a lie. What really happens is you or one of your dogpile
> gang twists what I say. The others run with it twisting it more and
> more, then you'll refer back to your own lies, remembering what each
> other said but claiming thast I said it.
> >
> > People try to help the retarded asshole and every single attempt is
> > rejected. Tell my Gary, when was the last time she was offered
> > help and accepted it? No need to wrack your pea brain, I'll answer
> > it for you. N E V E R.
>
> Again, not true. I thanked tert for putting up the Walmart link that
> now shows the button to click for the "Get in stock" notice for the
> Just Mayo.
>
> What does happen is people offering me advice when I never asked for
> advice then taking offense when I don't do what they say.
> >
> > Then the equally ignorant OhFeelMe rushes to her defense when she
> > doesn't have half of what the nitwit has written then denied. But
> > you go right ahead, suck up to Ju-Ju, stroke her ego, offer her
> > help, and then wait for it to be thrown back in your face. Repeat.
> > Repeat. Repeat.
>
> You're just a nasty piece of work. I'm glad you live far from me.

Sorry folks have so many issues with you. They should just ignore you
if they are that bent out of shape.

I think the difference if if I disagree with something from you, I feel
no need to *insult* you. Thats just not needed. I'm not really sure
why folks feel a need to insult here. I got called a slut yesterday by
someone (Bozo binned them). I don't have a problem with being
corrected if I get something wrong (ouff, left right politics! Dunno
what I was thinking).

====

So, you think she doesn't insult us??????

LOL

"graham" wrote in message ...

On 2020-08-25 6:23 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Taxed and Spent" > wrote in message
> ...
> On 8/25/2020 11:53 AM, dsi1 wrote:
>> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 3:45:42 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>>> U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 21:40:03 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 7:47:45 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B.
>>>> wrote:Â >> > On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:57:40 -0400, jmcquown
>>>> > >> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 8/23/2020 1:10 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:47:08 -0400, songbird
>>>>>>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>> when or if they'll be allowed to reopen. Many people are
>>>>>>> starving >>>>> and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> regulations are leading to stupidity. Crops can't be picked
>>>>>>> or >>>>> transported
>>>>>>>>>>>> so the food is rotting while people are starving. There
>>>> will >> > be a >>>>> revolt
>>>>>>>>>>>> here. People are fed up!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Â i don't see anything in the news about anyone starving.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Â around here they are saying they're going to harvest 22.5
>>>>>>> million >>>> bushels of apples this year. pretty much the same
>>>> as >> > last year.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Â the previous trips to the store i didn't see many more
>>>> skinny >> > >>>> people either. the usual chubby folks walking
>>>> around buying >> > junk >>>> food.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ah yes, the fast food hippos!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I heard on the radio that people are treating this as a
>>>> vacation >> > and on >> a vacation, all rules fly out the window.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What radio? If you're talking about people not being able to go
>>>>>>>> to work, perhaps people are making the best of things working
>>>>>>>> from home. They aren't starving. They aren't treating a
>>>>>>>> pandemic like a vacation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This concept makes no sense to me. I hate eating crap food. it
>>>>>>> makes me >> feel lousy, so I just don't eat it. I do get tacos
>>>> from >> > time to time. >> No, not Taco Bell with their beef
>>>> enhanced with >> > oats. Yick.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one is being forced to eat crappy food. Buy into Bruce's
>>>> idea >> > > of a bunch of fat people eating crappy food and mention
>>>> Taco Bell >> > > in the same breath, what does that say? I recall
>>>> you mentioning >> > > buying nachos with cheese sauce when shopping
>>>> at some place >> > > (Target? Walmart?) years ago. That's not
>>>> healthy food yet you >> > > bought and ate it from whatever the place
>>>> was waaaay before >> > > Covid-19 showed up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No wonder you didn't feel good if that's the kind of thing you
>>>>>>>> ate every time you went shopping with Angela. You say you're
>>>>>>>> exercising more now and losing weight. Good for you! Better
>>>> for >> > > your diabetes and GERD and your overall health.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> she listens to and buys into all the Right-Wing propaganda.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Women who are married to hardass, sexist men often adopt their
>>>>>> politics and social views, and hang onto them even after they
>>>> realize >> that the husbands were assholes, and get them out of their
>>>> lives. My >> late sister, my much loved late sister, who was in
>>>> every other way a >> great person, bought into that right-wing crap.
>>>> All three of her >> offspring are progressives. The youngest, the
>>>> only child of the >> right-wing asshole husband, is militant
>>>> progressive to the point that >> he and I even have differences.
>>>> He's a smart person, and a >> successful small business owner, but
>>>> he's gung-ho anti Democratic >> Party establishment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Bryan
>>>>>
>>>>> You flip flop too much to follow here. Democrats are right wing.
>>>>> Democrats are into 'how much free stuff can I get'. Most business
>>>>> owners tend to republican leanings since they are more about the
>>>>> economy and making a little bit of profit possible instead of free
>>>>> handouts.
>>>>
>>>> So sorry, but Republicans are the right wing.
>>>> Janet US
>>>
>>> Whoops! Sorry, yes.
>>
>> It's pretty confusing. Right wing means you're mostly motivated by fear.
>> Fear of the future. Fear that possessions/freedoms/way of life that you
>> have are going to be taken away from you.
>
> RIDICULOUS!
> --
>
> Agree. Most of my friends are leftists. Not sure why. We're all boomers.
> I'm neither left nor right.
>
But persistently wrong!

===

LOL

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 3:01:09 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> My recommendation for the ladies is to count your toilet paper sections as you use them and stick with what works. Find the critical toilet paper number that will mess up your toilet and stay below that. Always count your paper!

You remind me of a joke that was going around during the Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020:

I used to spin the toilet paper roll like it was the Wheel of Fortune. Now I turn it like I'm
cracking a safe.

Cindy Hamilton

"Leo" wrote in message
vidual.Net...

On 2020 Aug 25, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> So it IS possible to be very right-wing and talk sensibly about covid
> at the same time.

I€„¢m 74 today and statistically proven vulnerable. Wish me a happy birthday
and a few more to come.

====

Have a very happy Birthday, Leo Hope you are having a good one)))

On Tuesday, August 25, 2020 at 6:39:15 PM UTC-10, Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Aug 25, , Bruce wrote
> (in >):
>
> > So it IS possible to be very right-wing and talk sensibly about covid
> > at the same time.
>
> Im 74 today and statistically proven vulnerable. Wish me a happy birthday
> and a few more to come.

Holy shit, you're old! Well, at least you're well-preserved. That's the important thing. I won't wish you a happy birthday because that would greatly increase your chances of just dropping dead. Don't say that I never did you any favors.

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 9:52:34 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 3:01:09 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > My recommendation for the ladies is to count your toilet paper sections as you use them and stick with what works. Find the critical toilet paper number that will mess up your toilet and stay below that. Always count your paper!
>
> You remind me of a joke that was going around during the Great Toilet Paper Shortage of 2020:
>
> I used to spin the toilet paper roll like it was the Wheel of Fortune. Now I turn it like I'm
> cracking a safe.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I think women are great folks but their promiscuous wastage of TP is hard to accept. We go through so much paper here, you'd think everybody had chronic diarrhea.

FYI: they don't.

On 2020-08-25 9:20 p.m., Leo wrote:
> On 2020 Aug 25, , dsi1 wrote


>> Left wing means you're hopeful for the future and for a better life. The last
>> few generation of Americans are mostly leftist - even radically so. They're
>> angry that they never got the chances in life that the boomer had and want to
>> set things straight. They're in for a tough fight because they're up against
>> the rich and powerful but there's a lot more lefties around than righties.
>
> Left wing means that your reach exceeds your grasp. Right wing means your
> grasp meets or exceeds your reach. Its that simple.


Wow. You should write a book.

On 8/26/2020 12:39 AM, Leo wrote:
>
> Im 74 today and statistically proven vulnerable. Wish me a happy birthday
> and a few more to come.
>
>
Happy Birthday Leo!! And many more to come.

<virtual hugs> Jill

On 8/26/2020 3:36 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> writes:
>>
>> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> writes:
>>>>
>>>> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gawd, woman! Haven't you heard? There's a pandemic raging that has
>>>>>>> killed
>>>>>>> close to 180,000 people in the USA and you think it's a conspiracy?
>>>>>>> You really are an idiot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There's a pandemic and it has killed people. Do I believe those numbers?
>>>>>> No.
>>>>>> They've admitted that most of the people who died were listed as having
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> if they were tested for it. They didn't bother to find the real cause of
>>>>>> death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If they just were tested or even inquired about it at some Drs.. they
>>>>>> were
>>>>>> listed as having it. We can't believe the numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've had other pandemics. Nobody was on lockdown there. Businesses were
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> forced to close.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep buying into it. That's what they want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you are wrong about how cause of death is determined. There
>>>>> are plenty of issues with death statistics but the main issue with
>>>>> COVID-19 death reporting is that it is mostly likely UNDERreported
>>>>> in the U.S. Belgium has a more responsible approach.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie, please read this page carefully. There are a lot of words and it
>>>>> may be difficult to understand, but there is a graph at the bottom of
>>>>> the page that shows clearly what all the words are saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea is that there is a certain number of deaths that can be
>>>>> expected from all causes. This number is remarkably stable (like
>>>>> toilet paper consumption) and you can see from the graph that it
>>>>> has some annual patterns where the death rate is higher in winter
>>>>> than summer.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will see from the graph that starting in the week ending March 28,
>>>>> 2020, the observed number of deaths exceeded the expected number of
>>>>> deaths. This has been the case for every week since March 28.
>>>>>
>>>>> This doesn't say that all of the excess deaths are from COVID-19 but
>>>>> that is the most likely suspect in the absence of any other known cause.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will suspect you will find some paranoid reason to reject this
>>>>> explanation. I'm not sure what harm all of you snowflakes find in
>>>>> wearing a mask. I can understand why a 3-year-old might not get it,
>>>>> but adults should know better.
>>>>
>>>> I don't trust the CDC and won't read what they write. I do have friends
>>>> ion
>>>> the medical field and I know what they tell me.
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear your reasons for not trusting the CDC.
>>>
>>> How about IHME? They'll tell you the same thing.
>>
>> I have no clue what that is. I can't tell you why I don't trust the CDC. I
>> just don't.
>
> IHME = Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation
>
> Go to this page and search for the header "There are reports of deaths
> being under-reported in places. How does this impact your forecast?"
>
> http://www.healthdata.org/covid/faqs#Deaths
>
> Seems to me you need to consider the possibility that, in the absence of
> a compelling reason (or any reason at all), it is an error on your part
> not to trust the CDC.
>
> Do you know when you stopped trusting the CDC? Did you ever trust the
> CDC?
>
> Why would the CDC want to mislead the public?
>
> I'm also curious to know why you think Gov Inslee would want to shut
> down business and reduce state governmental tax revenues.
>
> Honestly, you come across as having not thought through these things
> very carefully. And that is fine - not thinking is a common feature
> among people. But usually if you share the results of not thinking,
> people are going to know you are dim. So you might want to keep it
> to yourself.
>
Excellent response! <applause>

Jill

On 2020-08-26 12:16 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 2020-08-25 8:31 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> My friend has the same toilet. A plumber told her to use only one
>>> ply. I tried that too. The toilet still clogs once in a great while
>>> but with two ply it clogged after every flush.
>>>
>>
>> Get a better plumber, and stop flushing tissues, paper towels and
>> tampons.
>
> I don't flush any of those things and I've no need for tampons.

I was all set to send some helpful suggestions. I actually typed it all
out, had hit "send", the spell checker did its thing and I was about to
press the final "send" and then slapped myself on the forehead and
avoided that Charlie Brown football moment, realizing you would just
come up with reasons those ideas would not work in Bothell.

On 2020-08-26 11:26 a.m., Gary wrote:
> " wrote:
>>
>> It boggles the mind when reading her posts. I understand why her husband
>> divorced her and why Angela only shows up for the occasional visit. Also,
>> why the 'gardener' steals from her left and right.
>
> This is an example of the speculation and spreading gossip that
> I hate so much. You know NOTHING about Julie's issues
> with her ex, daughter and gardener.

You may or may not be right about that. Julie has told us way too much
about her life and the vortex of dysfunction that is her life. However,
she has lied about so many things, telling something one time and then
denying ever having said it. So we have had a hell of a lot of
information, but no assurance that it is true. She is a drama queen
looking for attention, so we can take whatever she says and throw it
right back at her.

On 2020-08-26 11:58 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/26/2020 11:29 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:23:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> They had no one ply toilet
>>>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>>>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>>>>
>>>> You know, you can take 2-ply toilet paper and kinda peel off the top
>>>> section to make 1-ply. Or you can just use half as much.
>>>
>>> No I can't use half as much. That would still clog the toilet and I
>>> wouldn't
>>> get clean. And maybe you've never noticed but if you peel two ply
>>> apart, the
>>> single sheet is thinner than 1 ply. Not the same.
>>
>> Seriously Julie. Just flush more often and problem solved
>>
> Exactly.
> If it is one of the older low water toilets, certainly hit the handle
> before done to give it a head start.Â* Some were terrible like that.

Good luck. She will find a reason why that can't work for her.

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 4:35:53 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-08-25 9:20 p.m., Leo wrote:
> > On 2020 Aug 25, , dsi1 wrote
>
>
> >> Left wing means you're hopeful for the future and for a better life. The last
> >> few generation of Americans are mostly leftist - even radically so. They're
> >> angry that they never got the chances in life that the boomer had and want to
> >> set things straight. They're in for a tough fight because they're up against
> >> the rich and powerful but there's a lot more lefties around than righties.
> >
> > Left wing means that your reach exceeds your grasp. Right wing means your
> > grasp meets or exceeds your reach. Its that simple.
>
>
> Wow. You should write a book.

Don't wish that upon him on his birthday. That's cruel.

--Bryan

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> Julie Bove wrote:
>> > I'm not poking around for the model number. It's the cheapest
>> > American Standard with the round seat. Commonly put in construction
>> > here. My neighbor offered me one for free when he bought the house.
>> > He put in some kind of oval seat toilet. I have two toilets, both
>> > the same and both put in *after* we bought the house.
>>
>> I'm surprised. Popeye says american standard are the finest terlits
>> in the universe.
>
> Back before all the "save the water" nonsense, we all had full
> flush American real toilets. In order to do my part, near the
> end I did have gallon milk jug filled with water in my tank.
> That reduced the flush by one gallon and it worked well.
>
> Then they replaced all here with the nifty enviromental
> low flush toilets and mine would occasionally clog a bit.
> Solved that problem by learning to flush twice during an
> especially messy poo. haha So much for "save the water."
>
> Back around that time (circa 1990), G.Gordin Liddy
> (of Watergate fame) had a talk show on the radio.
> One day he was talking about that and said that he
> still had the GOOD OLD American high-flush toilets
> in his home. "When I flush my toilet, the tide in
> the Potomac River rises." Funny comment.

My parents had a low flush toilet that frightened guests. It flushing was so
violent and loud, people would come out of the bathroom,. terrified. Never
seen another toilet like that.

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 4:53:32 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2020-08-26 12:16 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "Dave Smith" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> On 2020-08-25 8:31 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My friend has the same toilet. A plumber told her to use only one
> >>> ply. I tried that too. The toilet still clogs once in a great while
> >>> but with two ply it clogged after every flush.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Get a better plumber, and stop flushing tissues, paper towels and
> >> tampons.
> >
> > I don't flush any of those things and I've no need for tampons.
>
> I was all set to send some helpful suggestions. I actually typed it all
> out, had hit "send", the spell checker did its thing and I was about to
> press the final "send" and then slapped myself on the forehead and
> avoided that Charlie Brown football moment, realizing you would just
> come up with reasons those ideas would not work in Bothell.

BotHell is an alternative reality, where the normal laws of causation do not apply, or at least it's that way for at least one of its residents.

--Bryan

On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:31:14 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 4:35:53 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2020-08-25 9:20 p.m., Leo wrote:
>> > On 2020 Aug 25, , dsi1 wrote
>>
>>
>> >> Left wing means you're hopeful for the future and for a better life. The last
>> >> few generation of Americans are mostly leftist - even radically so. They're
>> >> angry that they never got the chances in life that the boomer had and want to
>> >> set things straight. They're in for a tough fight because they're up against
>> >> the rich and powerful but there's a lot more lefties around than righties.
>> >
>> > Left wing means that your reach exceeds your grasp. Right wing means your
>> > grasp meets or exceeds your reach. Its that simple.
>>
>>
>> Wow. You should write a book.
>
>Don't wish that upon him on his birthday. That's cruel.

The World According to Don Leo.

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 4:53:32 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2020-08-26 12:16 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > I don't flush any of those things and I've no need for tampons.
>
> I was all set to send some helpful suggestions. I actually typed it all
> out, had hit "send", the spell checker did its thing and I was about to
> press the final "send" and then slapped myself on the forehead and
> avoided that Charlie Brown football moment, realizing you would just
> come up with reasons those ideas would not work in Bothell.
>
*APPLAUSE*

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 8:40:09 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 10:10:11 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 11:25:43 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> Bruce wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Is "French Language and Literature" a Humanities degree? Not that I
> >> > got it online.
> >> Is that the degree you got? What a worthwhile goal for a college
> >> education.
> >
> >If you don't view a college education as vocational training, it can be a
> >worthwhile goal.
> >
> >Once upon a time, the goal of college was to turn callow youths into
> >men with a broad grounding in the liberal arts, fitting them for a
> >future in business, politics, law, medicine, etc.
> >
> ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education>
> >
> >It has only been the last 40-60 years where college has been seen as training
> >for a specific career.
>
> Yes, I remember that in the 80s people suddenly started studying weird
> stuff like business economics at uni. Did they want a job or
> something?

Most of my slacker friends went into the agriculture field. That was completely unexpected. Evidently, they all wanted to be farmers.

On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 4:53:32 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2020-08-26 12:16 a.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > I don't flush any of those things and I've no need for tampons.
>>
>> I was all set to send some helpful suggestions. I actually typed it all
>> out, had hit "send", the spell checker did its thing and I was about to
>> press the final "send" and then slapped myself on the forehead and
>> avoided that Charlie Brown football moment, realizing you would just
>> come up with reasons those ideas would not work in Bothell.
>>
>*APPLAUSE*

Do you have to do this every time an RFC vulture says something you
agree with? We already know all y'all share one brain.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 22:43:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> snip
>>>>
>>>>I don't trust the CDC and won't read what they write. I do have friends
>>>>ion
>>>>the medical field and I know what they tell me.
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear your reasons for not trusting the CDC.
>>>
>>> How about IHME? They'll tell you the same thing.
>>
>>I have no clue what that is. I can't tell you why I don't trust the CDC. I
>>just don't.
>
> If you don't trust the CDC, what do you think the goal of the CDC is,
> that you don't trust them? What do your friends in the medical field
> tell you? I'm really curious.
> Janet US

I have no clue what their goal is but they keep flip flopping. Kids should
wear masks. Oh no! They shouldn't.

My friends tell me not to trust the numbers. The masks do nothing but we
have to play along and wear them.

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 5:05:54 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2020-08-26 11:26 a.m., Gary wrote:
>
> > " wrote:
> >>
> >> It boggles the mind when reading her posts. I understand why her husband
> >> divorced her and why Angela only shows up for the occasional visit. Also,
> >> why the 'gardener' steals from her left and right.
> >
> > This is an example of the speculation and spreading gossip that
> > I hate so much. You know NOTHING about Julie's issues
> > with her ex, daughter and gardener.
>
> You may or may not be right about that. Julie has told us way too much
> about her life and the vortex of dysfunction that is her life. However,
> she has lied about so many things, telling something one time and then
> denying ever having said it. So we have had a hell of a lot of
> information, but no assurance that it is true. She is a drama queen
> looking for attention, so we can take whatever she says and throw it
> right back at her.
>
Dave nailing it!!!

"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
> writes:
>>
>>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>>> writes:
>>>>
>>>>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gawd, woman! Haven't you heard? There's a pandemic raging that has
>>>>>>> killed
>>>>>>> close to 180,000 people in the USA and you think it's a conspiracy?
>>>>>>> You really are an idiot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There's a pandemic and it has killed people. Do I believe those
>>>>>>numbers?
>>>>>>No.
>>>>>>They've admitted that most of the people who died were listed as
>>>>>>having
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>if they were tested for it. They didn't bother to find the real cause
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If they just were tested or even inquired about it at some Drs.. they
>>>>>>were
>>>>>>listed as having it. We can't believe the numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We've had other pandemics. Nobody was on lockdown there. Businesses
>>>>>>were
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>forced to close.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Keep buying into it. That's what they want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you are wrong about how cause of death is determined. There
>>>>> are plenty of issues with death statistics but the main issue with
>>>>> COVID-19 death reporting is that it is mostly likely UNDERreported
>>>>> in the U.S. Belgium has a more responsible approach.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie, please read this page carefully. There are a lot of words and
>>>>> it
>>>>> may be difficult to understand, but there is a graph at the bottom of
>>>>> the page that shows clearly what all the words are saying.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea is that there is a certain number of deaths that can be
>>>>> expected from all causes. This number is remarkably stable (like
>>>>> toilet paper consumption) and you can see from the graph that it
>>>>> has some annual patterns where the death rate is higher in winter
>>>>> than summer.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will see from the graph that starting in the week ending March 28,
>>>>> 2020, the observed number of deaths exceeded the expected number of
>>>>> deaths. This has been the case for every week since March 28.
>>>>>
>>>>> This doesn't say that all of the excess deaths are from COVID-19 but
>>>>> that is the most likely suspect in the absence of any other known
>>>>> cause.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will suspect you will find some paranoid reason to reject this
>>>>> explanation. I'm not sure what harm all of you snowflakes find in
>>>>> wearing a mask. I can understand why a 3-year-old might not get it,
>>>>> but adults should know better.
>>>>
>>>>I don't trust the CDC and won't read what they write. I do have friends
>>>>ion
>>>>the medical field and I know what they tell me.
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear your reasons for not trusting the CDC.
>>>
>>> How about IHME? They'll tell you the same thing.
>>
>>I have no clue what that is. I can't tell you why I don't trust the CDC. I
>>just don't.
>
> IHME = Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation
>
> Go to this page and search for the header "There are reports of deaths
> being under-reported in places. How does this impact your forecast?"
>
> http://www.healthdata.org/covid/faqs#Deaths
>
> Seems to me you need to consider the possibility that, in the absence of
> a compelling reason (or any reason at all), it is an error on your part
> not to trust the CDC.
>
> Do you know when you stopped trusting the CDC? Did you ever trust the
> CDC?
>
> Why would the CDC want to mislead the public?
>
> I'm also curious to know why you think Gov Inslee would want to shut
> down business and reduce state governmental tax revenues.
>
> Honestly, you come across as having not thought through these things
> very carefully. And that is fine - not thinking is a common feature
> among people. But usually if you share the results of not thinking,
> people are going to know you are dim. So you might want to keep it
> to yourself.

I'm free to make up my own mind.

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 5:11:37 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2020-08-26 11:58 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >
> > If it is one of the older low water toilets, certainly hit the handle
> > before done to give it a head start.Â* Some were terrible like that..
>
> Good luck. She will find a reason why that can't work for her.
>
The governor says they are not allowed to do that in Washington state.

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 5:41:22 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:39:15 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >> I was all set to send some helpful suggestions. I actually typed it all
> >> out, had hit "send", the spell checker did its thing and I was about to
> >> press the final "send" and then slapped myself on the forehead and
> >> avoided that Charlie Brown football moment, realizing you would just
> >> come up with reasons those ideas would not work in Bothell.
> >>
> >*APPLAUSE*
>
> Do you have to do this every time an RFC vulture says something you
> agree with? We already know all y'all share one brain.
>
Do have to post an ingredient list every time someone posts a prepared
food item they bought?

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> " wrote:
>>
>> It boggles the mind when reading her posts. I understand why her husband
>> divorced her and why Angela only shows up for the occasional visit.
>> Also,
>> why the 'gardener' steals from her left and right.
>
> This is an example of the speculation and spreading gossip that
> I hate so much. You know NOTHING about Julie's issues
> with her ex, daughter and gardener.
>
> In the past, some here have said the same about me. Probably
> you too. It's just something to use to lash out when you're
> mad. It only makes you lose face here.
>
> Try ignoring posts or being polite whever possible.

Right. If I make the mistake of posting ONE thing about any one of them,
things get blown out of proportion, then their lies begin. But somehow their
lies become *my* lies. Makes no sense.

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 10:26:34 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>
>> " wrote:
>> >
>> > It boggles the mind when reading her posts. I understand why her
>> > husband
>> > divorced her and why Angela only shows up for the occasional visit.
>> > Also,
>> > why the 'gardener' steals from her left and right.
>>
>> This is an example of the speculation and spreading gossip that
>> I hate so much. You know NOTHING about Julie's issues
>> with her ex, daughter and gardener.
>>
> We know everything there is to know about Ju-Ju. She's as bad as Kuthe;
> doesn't know when to keep her private business private.

Ha! No you don't!
>>
>> In the past, some here have said the same about me. Probably
>> you too. It's just something to use to lash out when you're
>> mad. It only makes you lose face here.
>>
> I hate to disappoint you, but I'm not Asian, I don't worry about 'losing
> face.'
>>
>> Try ignoring posts or being polite whever possible.
>>
> Pass that advice on to Ju-Ju to quit lying every time she shows up here.
> Take your own advice, too.

FOAD.

On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:41:45 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Tue, 25 Aug 2020 22:43:01 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> snip
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't trust the CDC and won't read what they write. I do have friends
>>>>>ion
>>>>>the medical field and I know what they tell me.
>>>>
>>>> I'd love to hear your reasons for not trusting the CDC.
>>>>
>>>> How about IHME? They'll tell you the same thing.
>>>
>>>I have no clue what that is. I can't tell you why I don't trust the CDC. I
>>>just don't.
>>
>> If you don't trust the CDC, what do you think the goal of the CDC is,
>> that you don't trust them? What do your friends in the medical field
>> tell you? I'm really curious.
>> Janet US
>
>I have no clue what their goal is but they keep flip flopping. Kids should
>wear masks. Oh no! They shouldn't.
>
>My friends tell me not to trust the numbers. The masks do nothing but we
>have to play along and wear them.

There has been some flip flopping going on worldwide. I think it's
because this virus is new. Scientists are learning and updating their
advice. I'd just follow the most recent advice from your national
virus specialists.

On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:40:24 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 8:40:09 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 10:10:11 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >If you don't view a college education as vocational training, it can be a
>> >worthwhile goal.
>> >
>> >Once upon a time, the goal of college was to turn callow youths into
>> >men with a broad grounding in the liberal arts, fitting them for a
>> >future in business, politics, law, medicine, etc.
>> >
>> ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education>
>> >
>> >It has only been the last 40-60 years where college has been seen as training
>> >for a specific career.
>>
>> Yes, I remember that in the 80s people suddenly started studying weird
>> stuff like business economics at uni. Did they want a job or
>> something?
>
>Most of my slacker friends went into the agriculture field. That was completely unexpected. Evidently, they all wanted to be farmers.

So who's the slacker now, huh?

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2020-08-26 11:26 a.m., Gary wrote:
>> " wrote:
>>>
>>> It boggles the mind when reading her posts. I understand why her
>>> husband
>>> divorced her and why Angela only shows up for the occasional visit.
>>> Also,
>>> why the 'gardener' steals from her left and right.
>>
>> This is an example of the speculation and spreading gossip that
>> I hate so much. You know NOTHING about Julie's issues
>> with her ex, daughter and gardener.
>
> You may or may not be right about that. Julie has told us way too much
> about her life and the vortex of dysfunction that is her life. However,
> she has lied about so many things, telling something one time and then
> denying ever having said it. So we have had a hell of a lot of
> information, but no assurance that it is true. She is a drama queen
> looking for attention, so we can take whatever she says and throw it right
> back at her.

Your nose is growing, Dave.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Doris Night wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:23:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>>> They had no one ply toilet
>> >>>> paper.
>> >>>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>>
>> You know, you can take 2-ply toilet paper and kinda peel off the top
>> section to make 1-ply. Or you can just use half as much.
>>
>> Doris
>
> Julie just needs to flush the toilet more often.
> She must be worried about her water bill.

No, I don't. I do have medical issues though.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/26/2020 2:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 11:28:21 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>>> Doris Night wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:23:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> They had no one ply toilet
>>>>>>>> paper.
>>>>>>>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>>>>
>>>> You know, you can take 2-ply toilet paper and kinda peel off the top
>>>> section to make 1-ply. Or you can just use half as much.
>>>>
>>>> Doris
>>>
>>> Julie just needs to flush the toilet more often.
>>> She must be worried about her water bill.
>>
>> Water bill... the memories...
>>
>
> You can buy a lot of water for the cost of one house call by a plumber.
> Hit the handle again!

Yeah. $250 just for them to walk through the door!

> wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 10:28:22 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>>
>> On the other hand both have their constant bullies here,
>> Joan, Jill and you Dave. No matter what the 2 say, you
>> all constantly pick on them.
>>
>> If you'll notice I usually only pick on you 3 evil bullies
>> I have no respect for any of you for doing that constantly.
>>
>> RFC is just a small "snapshot" of the world and why there are
>> always wars constantly.
>>
> Gary, you are so full of shit your eyes are brown plus you are two-faced.

Can't come up with anything original?

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Bruce wrote:
>> Maybe they assume that, after 10 pm, people will be drunk and start
>> hugging each other uncontrollably.
>
> Actually, in my area and for many years, people rarely even go
> out to bars until almost 10PM. Then from 10pm up until 2am,
> the music gets louder and more and more people show up.
>
> By closing bars at 10pm, that would eliminate most of the
> crowd problems.

I haven't been to a bar in years. but 10 was when most people came in. My
friends and I would get there around 8 or 8:30. We could eat dinner and not
have to pay cover.

Most of the restaurants that *are* open here are closing early. One that
used to be 24 hours, now closes at 6:45 pm. Insane!

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Doris Night" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 16:23:03 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >>>>> They had no one ply toilet
>> >>>>> paper.
>> >>>>> I can only use one ply. Anything else clogs the toilet.
>> >
>> > You know, you can take 2-ply toilet paper and kinda peel off the top
>> > section to make 1-ply. Or you can just use half as much.
>>
>> No I can't use half as much. That would still clog the toilet and I
>> wouldn't
>> get clean. And maybe you've never noticed but if you peel two ply apart,
>> the
>> single sheet is thinner than 1 ply. Not the same.
>
> Seriously Julie. Just flush more often and problem solved

That's not the problem.

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> I happen to have a cousin who grew up in a town in Washington state
>> about 170 miles from Bothell. We keep in touch via email and the
>> occasional phone call.
>>
>> I think I'll send him an email and ask how the shopping situation is in
>> that part of Washington state.
>
> A town in any state 170 miles away from the other is
> comparing apples to oranges.

Exactly.

On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 12:51:15 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:40:24 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> > wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, August 26, 2020 at 8:40:09 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 10:10:11 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >If you don't view a college education as vocational training, it can be a
> >> >worthwhile goal.
> >> >
> >> >Once upon a time, the goal of college was to turn callow youths into
> >> >men with a broad grounding in the liberal arts, fitting them for a
> >> >future in business, politics, law, medicine, etc.
> >> >
> >> ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education>
> >> >
> >> >It has only been the last 40-60 years where college has been seen as training
> >> >for a specific career.
> >>
> >> Yes, I remember that in the 80s people suddenly started studying weird
> >> stuff like business economics at uni. Did they want a job or
> >> something?
> >
> >Most of my slacker friends went into the agriculture field. That was completely unexpected. Evidently, they all wanted to be farmers.
>
> So who's the slacker now, huh?

That would be my OCD Chinese friend. The rest of my friends turned out to be some pretty cool cats. They ask me about that crazy pake. Did he ever get a job? Well, no.