On Sunday, August 23, 2020 at 10:40:11 PM UTC-4, cshenk wrote:

> You flip flop too much to follow here. Democrats are right wing.
> Democrats are into 'how much free stuff can I get'.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I can't square that
with my Democratic friends like the engineer and his wife
the doctor.

> Most business
> owners tend to republican leanings since they are more about the
> economy and making a little bit of profit possible instead of free
> handouts.

That would be my friend's wife, the doctor. Her private practice is
finally showing a profit after a few years. He has a bumper sticker
that says "Medicine for people not for profit", which is about the
insurance industry.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 01:59:49 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Aug 23, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> cshenkie, you have to donate your brain to science.
>
>You should too. Your brain would be bigger with half as many neurons.

Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
few other chosen ones, am left-wing?

On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
(in >):

> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?

Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at a
hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Gary" wrote:
> > Get arrested. The cops have no problem with fingerprinting
> > you.
> >
> Ha! They're not arresting people here as a general rule. They don't want
> people in jail. Come here and shoplift all you want. You'll get away with
> it. You can also speed, vandalize homes... It's all good now.

This would be a good time to go steal a couple of jars
of that expensive "Just Mayo"

If it's mail order, just pay by credit card. Once it's
delivered, cancel the purchase and claim you never
received it. The cops won't care.

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>
> "cshenk" wrote:
> >You flip flop too much to follow here. Democrats are right wing.
>
> So sorry, but Republicans are the right wing.

I was wondering why she said that.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Gloves? We're not supposed to wear gloves! Gloves pick up germs and spread
> them.

So do your fingers. I do agree
that gloves are worthless but wearing them has never been
recommended either. Just wash your hands after being out
in public before touching your eyes, nose, mouth.
>
> I have seen enough evidence to know that the masks are worthless when it
> comes to Covid.

No you haven't.
Even the best N95 masks are not fail safe. They were never
intended to protect from a virus. However, they certainly
do help so no need to shun them. They are not worthless.
It's the best defense we have right now.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >> I don't usually go on political rants but I'm disgusting with the huge
> >> amounts of drug dealers and homeless people here and something needs to
> >> be
> >> done!
> Quite a few! We've just had 4 families move out on this street within 5
> houses of me either direction and one more house up for sale. We have to
> call the cops almost daily for the drug deals. They might arrest them, but
> they are back out on the streets the next day.

heh heh In a different tread you just told me that the police
aren't arresting anyone now in Bothell. Social distancing
and all that.

Anyway, your crime ridden neighborhood explains why you
can't get any food deliveries now.

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 08:23:20 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Julie Bove wrote:
> >>
> >> Most people here have put on weight because they're eating crap now instead
> >> of healthy food. Our diet has changed.
> >
> >Good excuse but not true. Eating crap food might not give you
> >good nutrition but gaining weight is due to eating too much food
> >each day, healthy food or not. You need to exercise too as you
> >get older to compensate for the normal slower metabolism.
>
> Crap (fast) food will make you gain weight more than a bowl of quinoa
> with chia seeds and cranberries.

I'm only talking calories vs calories. That's what matters
when it comes to gaining or losing weight. Equal calories
of either doesn't matter.

You can gain or lose weight with either food.
Obviously, healthy calories are better.

cshenk wrote :
> You flip flop too much to follow here. Democrats are right wing.
>
Carol you ignorant slut, Dems are left wing.

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 12:30:18 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:08:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
> >I rarely shop in Bothell. I can't afford the prices here except for Dollar
> >Tree. I used to shop at Winco but they have cut their staff and I can't
> >stand in line for as long as is needed. Angela stood in line for 2 hours. By
> >then, frozen food is melted.
> >
> >I mostly shop at the Walmart Neighborhood Market now. That's in Lynnwood.
> >They do not stock their shelves at night and they have no back stock of most
> >items. At the time I shop, they are always stocking the shelves. Sometimes I
> >can find what I want on a pallet. I've learned to look there.
>
> 2 hours, Julie? That's a whopper of a tale.
> Walmart is very pleasant to shop online and then have them bring the
> groceries to your vehicle. The Walmart shoppers will get all your
> stuff for you. Everything is kept cold or frozen if appropriate until
> you arrive for pickup. Albertsons is also easy to shop online and
> have the groceries brought to your car. I have never had something
> missing from my shopping list at Walmart but I have had out of stock
> items at Albertsons. Costco is also easy to shop online. Any of the
> 3 stores I mentioned will deliver to your door, no delivery charge if
> you meet their minimum shopping total. There are all kinds of avenues
> available to you for food,
> Janet US
>
Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! You're making w.a.y. too much sense. Besides,
don't you know online shopping is not allowed in Washington state; it's
simply not done, none of the stores you mentioned above don't do that in
her state. The governor won't allow it, she'll be arrested, the state will
be put on lockdown again and the gardener stole her car.

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 1:34:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> ...
>
> > do you wear your mask and gloves? Then you are not contributing to
> > spread of Covid-19. You need to sit down and get your facts straight.
>
> Gloves? We're not supposed to wear gloves! Gloves pick up germs and spread
> them.
>
Gloves are a personal choice in every state. Besides, stupid, don't you
think your hands are spreading germs when you pick up and item?
>
> Everyone is required to wear a mask here in public places and that includes
> outdoors. We face a $1,000 if we do not. And you are not allowed into any
> public place without one. No, that's not a law but we can still be fined for
> it.
>
Yet MORE lies from our resident attention whore. I just read about 6 news
articles coming from Washington state. Not wearing a mask is a misdemeanor
and the police and sheriffs association said they would NOT be issuing
tickets if you don't comply. Instead, they would be educating people why
they should wear a mask.
>
> I have seen enough evidence to know that the masks are worthless when it
> comes to Covid. But... I've got to be a sheeple on this because I don't want
> to get fined.
>
Ju-Ju, you've not seen any evidence of anything. You are too stupid to
grasp anything.

On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>

>
> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
> are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
> can't speak for those in other areas.

You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
so far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.

>
> We don't have a lot of Republicans here but there's a big push to vote
> Republican to get Inslee out of office. He is sitting back, telling us
> al, to stay home and ignoring all the problems going on around us. Wash
> your hands, wear your mask, stay home. All will be fine. Ha!
>
You really do have a screw loose!

On 2020-08-24 8:03 a.m., Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:

>> Crap (fast) food will make you gain weight more than a bowl of quinoa
>> with chia seeds and cranberries.
>
> I'm only talking calories vs calories. That's what matters
> when it comes to gaining or losing weight. Equal calories
> of either doesn't matter.
>
> You can gain or lose weight with either food.
> Obviously, healthy calories are better.
>

I have been getting lots of dietery advicesthe last few days. It seems
some of us who have heart issues get too much salt into our bodies and
it sucks water. The water adds weight and volume. I have lost 8 pounds
in three days.... all water.

graham wrote:
>
> On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
> > are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
> > can't speak for those in other areas.
>
> You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
> so far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
> dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.

LOL. Europeans have never seemed very smart. If what you say
is true, that proves it.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2020-08-24 8:03 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > Bruce wrote:
>
> >> Crap (fast) food will make you gain weight more than a bowl of quinoa
> >> with chia seeds and cranberries.
> >
> > I'm only talking calories vs calories. That's what matters
> > when it comes to gaining or losing weight. Equal calories
> > of either doesn't matter.
> >
> > You can gain or lose weight with either food.
> > Obviously, healthy calories are better.
> >
>
> I have been getting lots of dietery advicesthe last few days. It seems
> some of us who have heart issues get too much salt into our bodies and
> it sucks water. The water adds weight and volume. I have lost 8 pounds
> in three days.... all water.

It's not a one thing fits all especially with people with
problems.

Whenever I went on a strict diet, the first few days you lose
quite a bit of weight. Almost all of it is water weight. Same as
just go for a 12 mile run and you lose several pounds...all water

Anyway, only advice you should listen to is from doctor or a
registered dietitian...the college educated dietitians. My step
daughter is one. She works in a hospital and her current job is
to advise terminal cancer patients how to eat. It's a very
depressing job and she's studying for another career.

When she told me that...advising terminal cancer patients how to
eat, I told her
kind of jokingly but also serious... I would tell them to eat any
damn thing they want. Also go back to drinking and smoking if
they miss that. They're going to die soon anyway, why not enjoy
the small time they have left. That's not cruel, that's reality.
I would do that if I was given a few more months to live.
Go out with a happy note.

Ignore all RFC health advice, myself included.

Hope you do well with your issue, Dave.

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 10:51:00 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> graham wrote:
> >
> > On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> > >
> >
> > >
> > > Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
> > > are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
> > > can't speak for those in other areas.
> >
> > You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
> > so far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
> > dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.
> LOL. Europeans have never seemed very smart. If what you say
> is true, that proves it.

You do know, don't you, that "right" and "left" are relative terms?

The European democracies are far to the left of anything our Democrats
would seriously propose, knowing that it would be a waste of their time.
Yet those same Europeans are quite happy with their governments' policies.

Our Republican party is so far to the right, citizens in European countries
can only goggle in amazement at how we can permit such fascists in our
midst.

That said, there are gradations of "left" and "right" on both sides of the pond.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 05:43:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 12:30:18 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 22:08:09 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I rarely shop in Bothell. I can't afford the prices here except for Dollar
>> >Tree. I used to shop at Winco but they have cut their staff and I can't
>> >stand in line for as long as is needed. Angela stood in line for 2 hours. By
>> >then, frozen food is melted.
>> >
>> >I mostly shop at the Walmart Neighborhood Market now. That's in Lynnwood.
>> >They do not stock their shelves at night and they have no back stock of most
>> >items. At the time I shop, they are always stocking the shelves. Sometimes I
>> >can find what I want on a pallet. I've learned to look there.
>>
>> 2 hours, Julie? That's a whopper of a tale.
>> Walmart is very pleasant to shop online and then have them bring the
>> groceries to your vehicle. The Walmart shoppers will get all your
>> stuff for you. Everything is kept cold or frozen if appropriate until
>> you arrive for pickup. Albertsons is also easy to shop online and
>> have the groceries brought to your car. I have never had something
>> missing from my shopping list at Walmart but I have had out of stock
>> items at Albertsons. Costco is also easy to shop online. Any of the
>> 3 stores I mentioned will deliver to your door, no delivery charge if
>> you meet their minimum shopping total. There are all kinds of avenues
>> available to you for food,
>> Janet US
>>
>Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! You're making w.a.y. too much sense. Besides,
>don't you know online shopping is not allowed in Washington state; it's
>simply not done, none of the stores you mentioned above don't do that in
>her state. The governor won't allow it, she'll be arrested, the state will
>be put on lockdown again and the gardener stole her car.

that actually turned out to be her argument! It isn't allowed.
Janet US

On 8/24/2020 10:56 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 10:51:00 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>> graham wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
>>>> are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
>>>> can't speak for those in other areas.
>>>
>>> You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
>>> so far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
>>> dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.
>> LOL. Europeans have never seemed very smart. If what you say
>> is true, that proves it.
>
> You do know, don't you, that "right" and "left" are relative terms?
>
> The European democracies are far to the left of anything our Democrats
> would seriously propose, knowing that it would be a waste of their time.
> Yet those same Europeans are quite happy with their governments' policies.
>
> Our Republican party is so far to the right, citizens in European countries
> can only goggle in amazement at how we can permit such fascists in our
> midst.
>
> That said, there are gradations of "left" and "right" on both sides of the pond.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
The ones on this side have become further apart in recent years though.
No one wants to compromise or negotiate, they just want it their way.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 8/24/2020 10:56 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 10:51:00 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> >> graham wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
> >>>> are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
> >>>> can't speak for those in other areas.
> >>>
> >>> You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
> >>> so far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
> >>> dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.
> >> LOL. Europeans have never seemed very smart. If what you say
> >> is true, that proves it.
> >
> > You do know, don't you, that "right" and "left" are relative terms?
> >
> > The European democracies are far to the left of anything our Democrats
> > would seriously propose, knowing that it would be a waste of their time.
> > Yet those same Europeans are quite happy with their governments' policies.
> >
> > Our Republican party is so far to the right, citizens in European countries
> > can only goggle in amazement at how we can permit such fascists in our
> > midst.
> >
> > That said, there are gradations of "left" and "right" on both sides of the pond.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
> >
> The ones on this side have become further apart in recent years though.
> No one wants to compromise or negotiate, they just want it their way.

Trump and Pelosi have taken the fight very personal too, imo. One
or
both needs to be voted out. If they both win in November, it will
be
4 more years of arguments, investigations and nothing worthwhile
being accomplished.

It's all out war. If the democrats watched the convention last
week,
they heard all the stuff that they wanted to hear.

To be fair though, they should watch the republican convention to
hear the other side's story.

Trump is not all that, but he also isn't Biden. Once again,
we have a choice of the lesser of two evils.

wrote:
>> On Sunday, August 23, 2020 Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> Every state is different, in NY a background check is required for
>>> buying a shotgun. The dealer has a phone number to call, gives the
>>> info, and takes about an hour to hear the results of the check. Felons
>>> won't be approved but then they would buy off grid.
>>>
>> I would have thought New York would be more advanced than that. Here,
>> your information is entered online and the information is received back
>> to the gun dealer in a matter of 10 minutes or less. If you already
>> have a gun permit and you're 'clean' the results take less than 5 minutes.
>> For a replacement pistol, it took no time for my background check to come
>> back clean.

There's no permit required for a shotgom and this was not my first
one. I suppose it could depend on which part of NY and the particular
gun store. I don't live in NYC or any large city, I live in a very
rural part of NY State, at the perimeter of a very small village.
Often phone lines are overloaded as are the workers taking the
calls... not all parts of NYS are equally advanced electronically...
here we only recently got high speed lines and they are not really
very high speed... we were very lucky to get DISH not very long ago,
Cable TV was super slow and the TV service often went down at night
and on weekends when there was no one in their office to answer calls,
and most of their service techs are gone during hunting season.

The nearest gun shop here is in a family owned Hardware/Lumber store.
I didn't mind the short wait, it's an interesting store to look
around, and they sell a lot of items not available at Lowes/HomeDepot,
and have much better quality and service... the gun guy (who is also a
gunsmith) spent a lot of time helping me pick out the shotgun. They
also have better prices than the big sporting goods stores. I could
have gone to a larger fancier store if I felt like driving for an hour
but this was a three minute drive. The time I spent waiting was more
than saved in driving.

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:41:55 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 8/23/2020 11:50 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 22:07:26 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> snip
>> Our diet has changed. Because I'm only supposed to shop
>>> once every two weeks,
>> snip
>>
>> We covered your "I'm only supposed to shop
>> once every two weeks" here, in rfc, many months ago. You may shop
>> whenever you want to, no one is checking on you. I know that you are
>> going out of your home for other reasons more than once every two
>> weeks. You don't get it -- it is advised that you limit your travel
>> from one place to another unless necessary. It has nothing to do with
>> food shopping.
>> Julie, you have the same shopping opportunities that others in the
>> Pacific Northwest do. There is no food shortage now. You can find
>> all varieties of raw, fresh meat and all goods now just as you could
>> before Covid-19.
>> You are sounding silly
>> Janet US
>>
>I don't think she understands anything about what's going on. There may
>be some supply issues (Just Mayo, anyone?) but that's a store problem,
>not a government mandate. As far as I can tell, there is no law saying
>anyone in the state of Washington (and specifically Snonomish County)
>that people are only allowed to shop once every two weeks.
>
>Jill

And even if I only wanted to shop just once a month when that mayo or
anything else I wanted was at the store I'd buy 2-3 to put on a shelf
at home. Julies only shortage is brain cells.

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:58:10 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 05:43:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! You're making w.a.y. too much sense. Besides,
> >don't you know online shopping is not allowed in Washington state; it's
> >simply not done, none of the stores you mentioned above don't do that in
> >her state. The governor won't allow it, she'll be arrested, the state will
> >be put on lockdown again and the gardener stole her car.
>
> that actually turned out to be her argument! It isn't allowed.
> Janet US
>
It boggles the mind when reading her posts. I understand why her husband
divorced her and why Angela only shows up for the occasional visit. Also,
why the 'gardener' steals from her left and right. Not only is she retarded,
but she's also an airhead. Can you imagine she and John Kuthe being married?

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:47:37 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:57:40 -0400, jmcquown >
>wrote:
>
>>On 8/23/2020 1:10 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:47:08 -0400, songbird >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> when or if they'll be allowed to reopen. Many people are starving
>>>>>> and the
>>>>>> regulations are leading to stupidity. Crops can't be picked or
>>>>>> transported
>>>>>> so the food is rotting while people are starving. There will be a
>>>>>> revolt
>>>>>> here. People are fed up!
>>>>>
>>>>> *i don't see anything in the news about anyone starving.
>>>>>
>>>>> *around here they are saying they're going to harvest 22.5 million
>>>>> bushels of apples this year.* pretty much the same as last year.
>>>>>
>>>>> *the previous trips to the store i didn't see many more skinny
>>>>> people either.* the usual chubby folks walking around buying junk
>>>>> food.
>>>>
>>>> Ah yes, the fast food hippos!
>>>
>>> I heard on the radio that people are treating this as a vacation and on
>>> a vacation, all rules fly out the window.
>>>
>>What radio? If you're talking about people not being able to go to work,
>>perhaps people are making the best of things working from home. They
>>aren't starving. They aren't treating a pandemic like a vacation.
>>
>>> This concept makes no sense to me. I hate eating crap food. it makes me
>>> feel lousy, so I just don't eat it. I do get tacos from time to time.
>>> No, not Taco Bell with their beef enhanced with oats. Yick.
>>
>>No one is being forced to eat crappy food. Buy into Bruce's idea of a
>>bunch of fat people eating crappy food and mention Taco Bell in the same
>>breath, what does that say? I recall you mentioning buying nachos with
>>cheese sauce when shopping at some place (Target? Walmart?) years ago.
>>That's not healthy food yet you bought and ate it from whatever the
>>place was waaaay before Covid-19 showed up.
>>
>>No wonder you didn't feel good if that's the kind of thing you ate every
>>time you went shopping with Angela. You say you're exercising more now
>>and losing weight. Good for you! Better for your diabetes and GERD and
>>your overall health.
>>
>>Jill
>
>she listens to and buys into all the Right-Wing propaganda.
>Janet US

Were Julie the least bit concerned about her health she'd not eat any
kind of mayo, they are all mostly bad quality fat. Here between the
two of us we barely go through a quart jar of mayo in a year. It's
easy to prepare a healthful mayo substitute oneself from a little
EVOO, plain yogurt, lemon juice, and spices... blended with canned
tuna there's no noticeable difference.
Mostly Julie's bitches about everything is due to her profound
laziness, even all her imagined illnesses.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:03:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 08:23:20 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Most people here have put on weight because they're eating crap now instead
>> >> of healthy food. Our diet has changed.
>> >
>> >Good excuse but not true. Eating crap food might not give you
>> >good nutrition but gaining weight is due to eating too much food
>> >each day, healthy food or not. You need to exercise too as you
>> >get older to compensate for the normal slower metabolism.
>>
>> Crap (fast) food will make you gain weight more than a bowl of quinoa
>> with chia seeds and cranberries.
>
>I'm only talking calories vs calories. That's what matters
>when it comes to gaining or losing weight. Equal calories
>of either doesn't matter.
>
>You can gain or lose weight with either food.
>Obviously, healthy calories are better.

There's no such thing as "healthy" calories... calories are either
*healthful* or *unhealthful*.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
wrote:

>On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>(in >):
>
>> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>
>Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
>is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at a
>hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!

LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:01:11 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
>>
>> "cshenk" wrote:
>> >You flip flop too much to follow here. Democrats are right wing.
>>
>> So sorry, but Republicans are the right wing.
>
>I was wondering why she said that.

She lives in a permanent state of confusion. But the beauty of it is
that she doesn't know it.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 10:50:49 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>graham wrote:
>>
>> On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>>
>> >
>> > Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
>> > are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
>> > can't speak for those in other areas.
>>
>> You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
>> so far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
>> dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.
>
>LOL. Europeans have never seemed very smart. If what you say
>is true, that proves it.

It's true. From a European perspective, almost all Americans are
right-wing. And yet, most Europeans are not socialists. Americans have
no clue what socialists are.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:02:36 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 8/24/2020 10:56 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 10:51:00 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
>>> graham wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
>>>>> are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
>>>>> can't speak for those in other areas.
>>>>
>>>> You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
>>>> so far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
>>>> dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.
>>> LOL. Europeans have never seemed very smart. If what you say
>>> is true, that proves it.
>>
>> You do know, don't you, that "right" and "left" are relative terms?
>>
>> The European democracies are far to the left of anything our Democrats
>> would seriously propose, knowing that it would be a waste of their time.
>> Yet those same Europeans are quite happy with their governments' policies.
>>
>> Our Republican party is so far to the right, citizens in European countries
>> can only goggle in amazement at how we can permit such fascists in our
>> midst.
>>
>> That said, there are gradations of "left" and "right" on both sides of the pond.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>The ones on this side have become further apart in recent years though.
>No one wants to compromise or negotiate, they just want it their way.

It's bad and, to a lesser degree, happens in Australia too. I think
it's the problem with 2 party countries. It becomes us and them.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 11:15:30 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Trump and Pelosi have taken the fight very personal too, imo. One
>or both needs to be voted out. If they both win in November, it will
>be 4 more years of arguments, investigations and nothing worthwhile
>being accomplished.
>
>It's all out war. If the democrats watched the convention last
>week, they heard all the stuff that they wanted to hear.
>
>To be fair though, they should watch the republican convention to
>hear the other side's story.
>
>Trump is not all that, but he also isn't Biden. Once again,
>we have a choice of the lesser of two evils.

Trump is a narcissistic moron. I'd vote for Bush or Reagan if they
were up against Trump. What did I just say?

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:22:46 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:47:37 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 18:57:40 -0400, jmcquown >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 8/23/2020 1:10 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 20:47:08 -0400, songbird >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> when or if they'll be allowed to reopen. Many people are starving
>>>>>>> and the
>>>>>>> regulations are leading to stupidity. Crops can't be picked or
>>>>>>> transported
>>>>>>> so the food is rotting while people are starving. There will be a
>>>>>>> revolt
>>>>>>> here. People are fed up!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Â*i don't see anything in the news about anyone starving.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Â*around here they are saying they're going to harvest 22.5 million
>>>>>> bushels of apples this year.Â* pretty much the same as last year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Â*the previous trips to the store i didn't see many more skinny
>>>>>> people either.Â* the usual chubby folks walking around buying junk
>>>>>> food.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah yes, the fast food hippos!
>>>>
>>>> I heard on the radio that people are treating this as a vacation and on
>>>> a vacation, all rules fly out the window.
>>>>
>>>What radio? If you're talking about people not being able to go to work,
>>>perhaps people are making the best of things working from home. They
>>>aren't starving. They aren't treating a pandemic like a vacation.
>>>
>>>> This concept makes no sense to me. I hate eating crap food. it makes me
>>>> feel lousy, so I just don't eat it. I do get tacos from time to time.
>>>> No, not Taco Bell with their beef enhanced with oats. Yick.
>>>
>>>No one is being forced to eat crappy food. Buy into Bruce's idea of a
>>>bunch of fat people eating crappy food and mention Taco Bell in the same
>>>breath, what does that say? I recall you mentioning buying nachos with
>>>cheese sauce when shopping at some place (Target? Walmart?) years ago.
>>>That's not healthy food yet you bought and ate it from whatever the
>>>place was waaaay before Covid-19 showed up.
>>>
>>>No wonder you didn't feel good if that's the kind of thing you ate every
>>>time you went shopping with Angela. You say you're exercising more now
>>>and losing weight. Good for you! Better for your diabetes and GERD and
>>>your overall health.
>>>
>>>Jill
>>
>>she listens to and buys into all the Right-Wing propaganda.
>>Janet US
>
>Were Julie the least bit concerned about her health she'd not eat any
>kind of mayo, they are all mostly bad quality fat.

Egg, olive oil and vinegar/lemon. Where's the bad fat?

>Here between the
>two of us we barely go through a quart jar of mayo in a year. It's
>easy to prepare a healthful mayo substitute oneself from a little
>EVOO, plain yogurt, lemon juice, and spices... blended with canned
>tuna there's no noticeable difference.

LOL. You add tuna to it and that creates no noticeable difference? I
guess your tastebuds are retired.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:03:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 08:23:20 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>
>> >Julie Bove wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Most people here have put on weight because they're eating crap now instead
>> >> of healthy food. Our diet has changed.
>> >
>> >Good excuse but not true. Eating crap food might not give you
>> >good nutrition but gaining weight is due to eating too much food
>> >each day, healthy food or not. You need to exercise too as you
>> >get older to compensate for the normal slower metabolism.
>>
>> Crap (fast) food will make you gain weight more than a bowl of quinoa
>> with chia seeds and cranberries.
>
>I'm only talking calories vs calories. That's what matters
>when it comes to gaining or losing weight. Equal calories
>of either doesn't matter.
>
>You can gain or lose weight with either food.
>Obviously, healthy calories are better.

Yes. Although healthy foods tend to be less calorific.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:31:07 -0400, Sheldon Martin >
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:03:58 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2020 08:23:20 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>>>
>>> >Julie Bove wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Most people here have put on weight because they're eating crap now instead
>>> >> of healthy food. Our diet has changed.
>>> >
>>> >Good excuse but not true. Eating crap food might not give you
>>> >good nutrition but gaining weight is due to eating too much food
>>> >each day, healthy food or not. You need to exercise too as you
>>> >get older to compensate for the normal slower metabolism.
>>>
>>> Crap (fast) food will make you gain weight more than a bowl of quinoa
>>> with chia seeds and cranberries.
>>
>>I'm only talking calories vs calories. That's what matters
>>when it comes to gaining or losing weight. Equal calories
>>of either doesn't matter.
>>
>>You can gain or lose weight with either food.
>>Obviously, healthy calories are better.
>
>There's no such thing as "healthy" calories... calories are either
>*healthful* or *unhealthful*.

Dictionaries disagree with you. Who should we follow? Sheldon or the
dictionaries? Hmmm... difficult choice.

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 05:53:08 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 1:34:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> > do you wear your mask and gloves? Then you are not contributing to
>> > spread of Covid-19. You need to sit down and get your facts straight.
>>
>> Gloves? We're not supposed to wear gloves! Gloves pick up germs and spread
>> them.
>>
>Gloves are a personal choice in every state. Besides, stupid, don't you
>think your hands are spreading germs when you pick up and item?
>>
>> Everyone is required to wear a mask here in public places and that includes
>> outdoors. We face a $1,000 if we do not. And you are not allowed into any
>> public place without one. No, that's not a law but we can still be fined for
>> it.
>>
>Yet MORE lies from our resident attention whore.

Calm down. The 12 year old in you is taking over again.

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:53:15 AM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 1:34:34 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > "U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > > do you wear your mask and gloves? Then you are not contributing to
> > > spread of Covid-19. You need to sit down and get your facts straight.
> >
> > Gloves? We're not supposed to wear gloves! Gloves pick up germs and spread
> > them.
> >
> Gloves are a personal choice in every state. Besides, stupid, don't you
> think your hands are spreading germs when you pick up and item?
> >
> > Everyone is required to wear a mask here in public places and that includes
> > outdoors. We face a $1,000 if we do not. And you are not allowed into any
> > public place without one. No, that's not a law but we can still be fined for
> > it.
> >
> Yet MORE lies from our resident attention whore. I just read about 6 news
> articles coming from Washington state. Not wearing a mask is a misdemeanor
> and the police and sheriffs association said they would NOT be issuing
> tickets if you don't comply. Instead, they would be educating people why
> they should wear a mask.
> >
> > I have seen enough evidence to know that the masks are worthless when it
> > comes to Covid. But... I've got to be a sheeple on this because I don't want
> > to get fined.
> >
> Ju-Ju, you've not seen any evidence of anything. You are too stupid to
> grasp anything.

It might help if she got her new from a reliable source like her government's web
site, rather than right-wing talk radio.

Cindy Hamilton

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 11:11:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:58:10 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 05:43:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! You're making w.a.y. too much sense. Besides,
> > >don't you know online shopping is not allowed in Washington state; it's
> > >simply not done, none of the stores you mentioned above don't do that in
> > >her state. The governor won't allow it, she'll be arrested, the state will
> > >be put on lockdown again and the gardener stole her car.
> >
> > that actually turned out to be her argument! It isn't allowed.
> > Janet US
> >
> It boggles the mind when reading her posts. I understand why her husband
> divorced her and why Angela only shows up for the occasional visit. Also,
> why the 'gardener' steals from her left and right. Not only is she retarded,
> but she's also an airhead. Can you imagine she and John Kuthe being married?

I suggested that she move to "beautiful Bel Nor," but that she would need to be comfortable with certain things, like Benny, the small, benevolent butt plug.

--Bryan

On 2020-08-24 12:11 p.m., wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 9:58:10 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 05:43:35 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Stop it! Stop it! Stop it! You're making w.a.y. too much sense. Besides,
>>> don't you know online shopping is not allowed in Washington state; it's
>>> simply not done, none of the stores you mentioned above don't do that in
>>> her state. The governor won't allow it, she'll be arrested, the state will
>>> be put on lockdown again and the gardener stole her car.
>>
>> that actually turned out to be her argument! It isn't allowed.
>> Janet US
>>
> It boggles the mind when reading her posts. I understand why her husband
> divorced her and why Angela only shows up for the occasional visit. Also,
> why the 'gardener' steals from her left and right. Not only is she retarded,
> but she's also an airhead. Can you imagine she and John Kuthe being married?
>

She had the wool pulled down over the eyes of a lot of people when there
husband was around had them convinced that he was some sort of abuse.
RFC suckers were full of pity for her and thought she was lucky to be
rid of him. I always figured that she was he cause of that vortex of
dysfunction and could appreciate why he spent to much time away from
her. Dumping her was the best thing he every did.

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 2:19:19 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2020-08-24 12:11 p.m., wrote:
> >
> > It boggles the mind when reading her posts. I understand why her husband
> > divorced her and why Angela only shows up for the occasional visit. Also,
> > why the 'gardener' steals from her left and right. Not only is she retarded,
> > but she's also an airhead. Can you imagine she and John Kuthe being married?
> >
>
> She had the wool pulled down over the eyes of a lot of people when there
> husband was around had them convinced that he was some sort of abuse.
> RFC suckers were full of pity for her and thought she was lucky to be
> rid of him. I always figured that she was he cause of that vortex of
> dysfunction and could appreciate why he spent to much time away from
> her. Dumping her was the best thing he every did.
>
Applause! Applause!

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:11:31 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
> wrote:
>
> >On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
> >(in >):
> >
> >> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
> >> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
> >> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
> >
> >Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
> >is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at a
> >hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>
> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.

I don't think it's strange. Covid-19 just happened during a critical point in an election year. The 2020 election was always going to be a dirty, contentious, war. It's a world war. The Ruskies want their man running the US because they love that America seems to in confused disarray and on the brink of a civil war. The Chinese are mostly looking for economic stability. The commies will be working their troll farms 24/7. We ain't seen nothing yet..

On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 10:56:42 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 10:51:00 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> > graham wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2020-08-23 11:29 p.m., Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Democrats these days, at least in this area are left wing liberals who
> > > > are trying to convert us to socialism. They are anti capitalists. I
> > > > can't speak for those in other areas.
> > >
> > > You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit you in the arse! Democrats are
> > > so far to the right of socialists, that Europeans see them as
> > > dyed-in-the-wool conservatives.
> > LOL. Europeans have never seemed very smart. If what you say
> > is true, that proves it.
> You do know, don't you, that "right" and "left" are relative terms?
>
> The European democracies are far to the left of anything our Democrats
> would seriously propose, knowing that it would be a waste of their time.
> Yet those same Europeans are quite happy with their governments' policies.
>
> Our Republican party is so far to the right, citizens in European countries
> can only goggle in amazement at how we can permit such fascists in our
> midst.
>
> That said, there are gradations of "left" and "right" on both sides of the pond.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

And the kind of Hate' radio fostered here in the US, oh !!!

On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 12:28:16 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
> wrote:

>On Monday, August 24, 2020 at 8:11:31 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 04:43:26 -0700, Leo >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On 2020 Aug 24, , Bruce wrote
>> >(in >):
>> >
>> >> Yabbut, we don't have to agree about everything, but can we at least
>> >> agree that all y'all are right-wing and I, the enlightened one, and a
>> >> few other chosen ones, am left-wing?
>> >
>> >Im certainly right-wing. I cant speak for anyone else. If enlightenment
>> >is represented by a 100 Watt bulb, you would be a bright light, viewed at a
>> >hundred meters during a heavy snowstorm. Love ya, buddy!
>>
>> LOL. It's strange how this pandemic has become political. And it's not
>> only the right-wing who complain about their rights, their freedom and
>> their whatever. Parts of the anti-vaxxer, chemtrail, hippie crowd have
>> also been triggered and think that governments use covid to control
>> the people. I guess paranoia knows no political boundaries.
>
>I don't think it's strange. Covid-19 just happened during a critical point in
>an election year. The 2020 election was always going to be a dirty,
>contentious, war.

I wasn't just referring to the US.

> It's a world war. The Ruskies want their man running the US because
> they love that America seems to in confused disarray and on the brink
> of a civil war. The Chinese are mostly looking for economic
> stability.

If only that was all they wanted.