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"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
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>>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
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>>>>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> Yes. It's a control thing by our Governor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gawd, woman! Haven't you heard? There's a pandemic raging that has
>>>>>>> killed
>>>>>>> close to 180,000 people in the USA and you think it's a conspiracy?
>>>>>>> You really are an idiot!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There's a pandemic and it has killed people. Do I believe those
>>>>>>numbers?
>>>>>>No.
>>>>>>They've admitted that most of the people who died were listed as
>>>>>>having
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>if they were tested for it. They didn't bother to find the real cause
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>death.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If they just were tested or even inquired about it at some Drs.. they
>>>>>>were
>>>>>>listed as having it. We can't believe the numbers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We've had other pandemics. Nobody was on lockdown there. Businesses
>>>>>>were
>>>>>>not
>>>>>>forced to close.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Keep buying into it. That's what they want.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course you are wrong about how cause of death is determined. There
>>>>> are plenty of issues with death statistics but the main issue with
>>>>> COVID-19 death reporting is that it is mostly likely UNDERreported
>>>>> in the U.S. Belgium has a more responsible approach.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie, please read this page carefully. There are a lot of words and
>>>>> it
>>>>> may be difficult to understand, but there is a graph at the bottom of
>>>>> the page that shows clearly what all the words are saying.
>>>>>
>>>>>
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> The idea is that there is a certain number of deaths that can be
>>>>> expected from all causes. This number is remarkably stable (like
>>>>> toilet paper consumption) and you can see from the graph that it
>>>>> has some annual patterns where the death rate is higher in winter
>>>>> than summer.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will see from the graph that starting in the week ending March 28,
>>>>> 2020, the observed number of deaths exceeded the expected number of
>>>>> deaths. This has been the case for every week since March 28.
>>>>>
>>>>> This doesn't say that all of the excess deaths are from COVID-19 but
>>>>> that is the most likely suspect in the absence of any other known
>>>>> cause.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will suspect you will find some paranoid reason to reject this
>>>>> explanation. I'm not sure what harm all of you snowflakes find in
>>>>> wearing a mask. I can understand why a 3-year-old might not get it,
>>>>> but adults should know better.
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>>>>I don't trust the CDC and won't read what they write. I do have friends
>>>>ion
>>>>the medical field and I know what they tell me.
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>>> I'd love to hear your reasons for not trusting the CDC.
>>>
>>> How about IHME? They'll tell you the same thing.

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>>I have no clue what that is. I can't tell you why I don't trust the CDC. I
>>just don't.

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> IHME = Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation
>
> Go to this page and search for the header "There are reports of deaths
> being under-reported in places. How does this impact your forecast?"
>
> http://www.healthdata.org/covid/faqs#Deaths
>
> Seems to me you need to consider the possibility that, in the absence of
> a compelling reason (or any reason at all), it is an error on your part
> not to trust the CDC.
>
> Do you know when you stopped trusting the CDC? Did you ever trust the
> CDC?
>
> Why would the CDC want to mislead the public?
>
> I'm also curious to know why you think Gov Inslee would want to shut
> down business and reduce state governmental tax revenues.
>
> Honestly, you come across as having not thought through these things
> very carefully. And that is fine - not thinking is a common feature
> among people. But usually if you share the results of not thinking,
> people are going to know you are dim. So you might want to keep it
> to yourself.


I'm free to make up my own mind.