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On 8/24/2016 6:18 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 5:43:36 PM UTC-4, Nancy Young wrote:


>> I'm just curious what she talks about. And if she ever disagrees
>> with herself.

>
> Heh. Just ask the people in the adjacent cubes at work. I often
> disagree with myself. "Should I do it this way or that? This. No,
> that." I ended up with "that".


They stopped saying What? Did you say something? a long time
ago. heh Beats being stuck near someone who never gets off
the phone talking about nothing all day, that's for sure.

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On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 8:20:00 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:

> The local cemetery here has been in existance since the mid 1600s, I
> doubt it will be abandoned any time soon. All you keep doing with
> your remarks is to prove how worthless a life you've lived.


Since when have "has lots of friends" or "has a nice grave" been
the measure of a man's worth?

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
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> On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 at 8:20:00 PM UTC-4, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> > The local cemetery here has been in existance since the mid 1600s, I
> > doubt it will be abandoned any time soon. All you keep doing with
> > your remarks is to prove how worthless a life you've lived.

>
> Since when have "has lots of friends" or "has a nice grave" been
> the measure of a man's worth?


And it also not about how many "toys" you accumulate before you die.

The Mark Twain quote was cool. It spelled life out pretty well, imo.

And Sheldon keeps saying I think very little of myself. Nonsense. I've
influenced people in my life hopefully in a good way. My daughter
turned out fine. In my surfing years, I saved 3+ ppl from drowning. Life
is about the little things that you do nice and never get credit or an
award or pay, but every time you help someone out in some way is a good
thing. "Random Acts of Kindness" and "Pay it forward."

I've cared for several pets in my lifetime and they all only knew true
love and care. IMO, an animal's life is no less important than human
lives. All of mine never knew anger, starvation, neglect. I'm not rich
but I'm a damn nice person.

When I die, I'm gone and I don't care anymore here on earth. I don't
need a memorial to my dead body.
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In article >, gravesend10
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> The local cemetery here has been in existance since the mid 1600s, I
> doubt it will be abandoned any time soon. All you keep doing with
> your remarks is to prove how worthless a life you've lived.




There are much older graves here, going back 4,000 years BC. Nobody
remembers whoever was buried there.

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=5365
http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/s...-sites/giants-
graves.html

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I'd be ok with feeding my body to dogs or something.


My mother once asked me, "What if you die and the ferrets eat you?"

I told her that I would hope they would feed on my body. It's not me
anymore. In real life though, if that happened they might survive longer
but, once I was discovered dead, the newspaper headlines would probably
say, "Ferrets eat man in house!" Then they would be killed by
authorities for doing such a heinous thing. Sad sad.

That one night many years ago that I spent the night sitting on the
toilet with *extreme* asthma attack, I early on gave myself up for dead.
After that, I spent the rest of the night worrying about my 2 ferrets
that were still in the cage. If I died in the bathroom, those poor
creatures that I loved so much would be gone within days too.

I'm not kidding either...I gave myself up for dead but I was really
concerned with my two loving babies.

I'm such a wuss. heheheh

And Sheldon, you didn't even believe that story told many years ago. You
chump. Enjoy your graveyard and your nifty granite headstones. :-D


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Nancy Young wrote:

> On 8/23/2016 5:02 PM, sf wrote:
>
> > So what? Have you never been to a zoo? There are benches for people
> > to sit on and enjoy watching the animals at their leisure. Those
> > benches are often sponsored/donated, and the donor gets a plaque with
> > their name on it (if they wish). I have used many such benches at the
> > zoo and in City parks.

>
> I thought if I was to be buried, I'd like my headstone to be
> a bench. I think I saw that in Midnight in the Garden of Good
> and Evil and it struck my fancy.
>
> Someone wrote to a column, complaining about kids of visitors
> running around and playing in the cemetery, how disrespectful
> to the deceased. I thought If the dead people knew, most of
> them would be Finally! something fun around here.
>
> I don't want to be buried at all, so a bench or something
> nice like that would suit me just fine.



There's a lovely little mini - park nearby, it's in the middle of an intersection where two streets converge. Many flowers, etc. There's a cool fountain, inscribed, "In Memory of Our Dear Pickle - And All The Good Times We Had With You" ... she was a locally well - known bartender back in the day. I think Pickles would be very happy with her memorial ;-)


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"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
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> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 4:36:03 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "tert in seattle" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>> > "tert in seattle" wrote in message
>> > ...

>>
>> >> I don't really know but they won't have anything to say after it is
>> >> done
>> >> <g>
>> >>
>> >> I won't change my mind though) I am not lying in a coffin for
>> >> everyone
>> >> to
>> >> gawp at. Best they remember me as I am
>> >>
>> >> Would you have a problem with it?
>> >
>> > I don't have a problem with you not lying in a coffin for everyone to
>> > gawp
>> > at. We say gawk over here in the US btw. There's also gape but that's
>> > used
>> > more in traffic reports.
>> >
>> > Nooo I didn't mean with me. I meant in your life!!!

>>
>> ah got it - sorry
>>
>> I don't want my body to be on display when I'm dead
>>
>> my only personal thoughts are that a human corpse can feed things that
>> are
>> still living, and and it's a shame to waste decent food
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Would you eat human meat??

>
> Eating one's own species is bad epidemiology (look at Mad Cow Disease, or
> kuru <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)>).
> I'd be ok with feeding my body to dogs or something.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Yes, I've always said that if my dog and I were stranded somewhere and one
of us dies the survivor has permission to eat the other.

Cheri

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"Cheri" wrote in message ...


"Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 4:36:03 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>> "tert in seattle" wrote in message
>> ...
>>
>> Ophelia wrote:
>> > "tert in seattle" wrote in message
>> > ...

>>
>> >> I don't really know but they won't have anything to say after it is
>> >> done
>> >> <g>
>> >>
>> >> I won't change my mind though) I am not lying in a coffin for
>> >> everyone
>> >> to
>> >> gawp at. Best they remember me as I am
>> >>
>> >> Would you have a problem with it?
>> >
>> > I don't have a problem with you not lying in a coffin for everyone to
>> > gawp
>> > at. We say gawk over here in the US btw. There's also gape but that's
>> > used
>> > more in traffic reports.
>> >
>> > Nooo I didn't mean with me. I meant in your life!!!

>>
>> ah got it - sorry
>>
>> I don't want my body to be on display when I'm dead
>>
>> my only personal thoughts are that a human corpse can feed things that
>> are
>> still living, and and it's a shame to waste decent food
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Would you eat human meat??

>
> Eating one's own species is bad epidemiology (look at Mad Cow Disease, or
> kuru <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)>).
> I'd be ok with feeding my body to dogs or something.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Yes, I've always said that if my dog and I were stranded somewhere and one
of us dies the survivor has permission to eat the other.

Cheri

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On 8/24/2016 12:25 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 4:36:03 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "tert in seattle" wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>> > "tert in seattle" wrote in message
>>> > ...
>>>
>>> >> I don't really know but they won't have anything to say after it
>>> is >> done
>>> >> <g>
>>> >>
>>> >> I won't change my mind though) I am not lying in a coffin for
>>> >> everyone
>>> >> to
>>> >> gawp at. Best they remember me as I am
>>> >>
>>> >> Would you have a problem with it?
>>> >
>>> > I don't have a problem with you not lying in a coffin for everyone
>>> to > gawp
>>> > at. We say gawk over here in the US btw. There's also gape but
>>> that's > used
>>> > more in traffic reports.
>>> >
>>> > Nooo I didn't mean with me. I meant in your life!!!
>>>
>>> ah got it - sorry
>>>
>>> I don't want my body to be on display when I'm dead
>>>
>>> my only personal thoughts are that a human corpse can feed things
>>> that are
>>> still living, and and it's a shame to waste decent food
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Would you eat human meat??

>>
>> Eating one's own species is bad epidemiology (look at Mad Cow Disease, or
>> kuru <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)>).
>> I'd be ok with feeding my body to dogs or something.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton

>
> Yes, I've always said that if my dog and I were stranded somewhere and
> one of us dies the survivor has permission to eat the other.
>
> Cheri
> ====================
>
> Sounds fair enough to me
>
>
>


sort of incentivizes the dog, though.
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Ophelia wrote:
> "tert in seattle" wrote in message
> ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
>> "tert in seattle" wrote in message
>> ...

>
>>> I don't really know but they won't have anything to say after it is done
>>> <g>
>>>
>>> I won't change my mind though) I am not lying in a coffin for everyone
>>> to
>>> gawp at. Best they remember me as I am
>>>
>>> Would you have a problem with it?

>>
>> I don't have a problem with you not lying in a coffin for everyone to gawp
>> at. We say gawk over here in the US btw. There's also gape but that's used
>> more in traffic reports.
>>
>> Nooo I didn't mean with me. I meant in your life!!!

>
> ah got it - sorry
>
> I don't want my body to be on display when I'm dead
>
> my only personal thoughts are that a human corpse can feed things that are
> still living, and and it's a shame to waste decent food
>
>===
>
> Would you eat human meat??


I'm not sure how that follows

maybe it helps to note that "things that are still living" includes
species other than humans?




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"Taxed and Spent" wrote in message ...

On 8/24/2016 12:25 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cheri" wrote in message ...
>
> "Cindy Hamilton" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 4:36:03 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
>>> "tert in seattle" wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Ophelia wrote:
>>> > "tert in seattle" wrote in message
>>> > ...
>>>
>>> >> I don't really know but they won't have anything to say after it
>>> is >> done
>>> >> <g>
>>> >>
>>> >> I won't change my mind though) I am not lying in a coffin for
>>> >> everyone
>>> >> to
>>> >> gawp at. Best they remember me as I am
>>> >>
>>> >> Would you have a problem with it?
>>> >
>>> > I don't have a problem with you not lying in a coffin for everyone
>>> to > gawp
>>> > at. We say gawk over here in the US btw. There's also gape but
>>> that's > used
>>> > more in traffic reports.
>>> >
>>> > Nooo I didn't mean with me. I meant in your life!!!
>>>
>>> ah got it - sorry
>>>
>>> I don't want my body to be on display when I'm dead
>>>
>>> my only personal thoughts are that a human corpse can feed things
>>> that are
>>> still living, and and it's a shame to waste decent food
>>>
>>> ===
>>>
>>> Would you eat human meat??

>>
>> Eating one's own species is bad epidemiology (look at Mad Cow Disease, or
>> kuru <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)>).
>> I'd be ok with feeding my body to dogs or something.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton

>
> Yes, I've always said that if my dog and I were stranded somewhere and
> one of us dies the survivor has permission to eat the other.
>
> Cheri
> ====================
>
> Sounds fair enough to me
>
>
>


sort of incentivizes the dog, though.
===============

Depends on the dog Mine wouldn't last half a day out on her own, ready
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"tert in seattle" wrote in message
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Ophelia wrote:
> "tert in seattle" wrote in message
> ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
>> "tert in seattle" wrote in message
>> ...

>
>>> I don't really know but they won't have anything to say after it is done
>>> <g>
>>>
>>> I won't change my mind though) I am not lying in a coffin for
>>> everyone
>>> to
>>> gawp at. Best they remember me as I am
>>>
>>> Would you have a problem with it?

>>
>> I don't have a problem with you not lying in a coffin for everyone to
>> gawp
>> at. We say gawk over here in the US btw. There's also gape but that's
>> used
>> more in traffic reports.
>>
>> Nooo I didn't mean with me. I meant in your life!!!

>
> ah got it - sorry
>
> I don't want my body to be on display when I'm dead
>
> my only personal thoughts are that a human corpse can feed things that are
> still living, and and it's a shame to waste decent food
>
>===
>
> Would you eat human meat??


I'm not sure how that follows

maybe it helps to note that "things that are still living" includes
species other than humans?

=============

I was responding to the comment about 'a human corpse' and how it can 'feed
things that are still living'


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On 8/24/2016 4:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>
> It's a great cemetery. We don't have great cemeteries on this rock. I'd
> like to go through there one of these days. It really makes one think
> about the dead.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8bBQmbXRk
>
> ========
>
> You can play that for me anytime)
>


We saw the Phantom on stage and it was wonderful. Now I have a reminder
to get out the CD again and listen to it.
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On 8/24/2016 4:33 AM, Ophelia wrote:
> "dsi1" wrote in message
> ...
>
>
>
> It's a great cemetery. We don't have great cemeteries on this rock. I'd
> like to go through there one of these days. It really makes one think
> about the dead.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8bBQmbXRk
>
> ========
>
> You can play that for me anytime)
>


We saw the Phantom on stage and it was wonderful. Now I have a reminder
to get out the CD again and listen to it.

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In article >,
says...
>
> On 2016-08-24 4:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> >
says...
> >>
> >> In article >, gravesend10
> >> @verizon.net says...
> >>
> >>> The local cemetery here has been in existance since the mid 1600s, I
> >>> doubt it will be abandoned any time soon. All you keep doing with
> >>> your remarks is to prove how worthless a life you've lived.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There are much older graves here, going back 4,000 years BC. Nobody
> >> remembers whoever was buried there.

> >
> > lol, you're kidding.

>
> Probably not. They may have some idea of the date of the burial and the
> customs of the culture. There is little chance that they know the name
> of the person buried there. It is hard enough to read the gravestones
> around here for people buried just 200 years ago.


I meant that if a grave is 4000 years old, it's unlikely that someone
will say: "That's my great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
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great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great grandfather in there!"
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In article >,
says...
>
> On 2016-08-24 4:43 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article >,
> >
says...
> >>
> >> In article >, gravesend10
> >> @verizon.net says...
> >>
> >>> The local cemetery here has been in existance since the mid 1600s, I
> >>> doubt it will be abandoned any time soon. All you keep doing with
> >>> your remarks is to prove how worthless a life you've lived.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There are much older graves here, going back 4,000 years BC. Nobody
> >> remembers whoever was buried there.

> >
> > lol, you're kidding.

>
> Probably not. They may have some idea of the date of the burial and the
> customs of the culture. There is little chance that they know the name
> of the person buried there. It is hard enough to read the gravestones
> around here for people buried just 200 years ago.


I meant that if a grave is 4000 years old, it's unlikely that someone
will say: "That's my great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
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great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great great great great great
great great great great great great great great grandfather in there!"

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On 8/22/2016 7:34 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> If my wife goes first, I'll keep just a small vial or locket of ashes as
> a remembrance, the rest will be scattered. If I go first, she is
> welcome to do as she pleases.


My parents had never actually discussed it. All she knew was they both
had plots available at whatever [military] National Cemetery was nearby.

When Mom realized Dad was not likely to live much longer she asked me to
take her to the funeral home to make preparations. Before we went there
she told me, "I think he'd like to be cremated." She truly didn't know.

I drove her to the funeral parlor and she selected a nice dark green
marble urn and filled out some paperwork. The urn was interred at
Beaufort National Cemetery; a bronze plaque was placed over his grave.
Mom and I didn't discuss her funeral but when she died I figured what
she felt was what Dad would have wanted would be the same as what she
would have asked for. I selected the same type of marble urn. Her
ashes were interred in the plot next to his. Also with a brass plaque
above her grave.

I don't actually know anyone who *visits* the graves of their loved
ones. My mother told me she never went back to Ohio to visit her
parents' graves. I remember her saying they are gone, it's just a
place, not them.

I *do* like tramping around in really old cemeteries. Some of the old
(by that I mean dating back to the 18th and 19th century) headstones can
be fascinating.

Jill
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On 8/25/2016 5:40 PM, jmcquown wrote:

> I don't actually know anyone who *visits* the graves of their loved
> ones. My mother told me she never went back to Ohio to visit her
> parents' graves. I remember her saying they are gone, it's just a
> place, not them.
> Jill


Every couple of years when we are visiting Philly I take my wife to
where her parents and grandparents are buried. I've never visited any
of my relative's graves. I don't have to sit in a cemetery to have
pleasant memories of times with them.


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On 8/25/2016 11:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 8/25/2016 5:40 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I don't actually know anyone who *visits* the graves of their loved
>> ones. My mother told me she never went back to Ohio to visit her
>> parents' graves. I remember her saying they are gone, it's just a
>> place, not them.


> Every couple of years when we are visiting Philly I take my wife to
> where her parents and grandparents are buried. I've never visited any
> of my relative's graves. I don't have to sit in a cemetery to have
> pleasant memories of times with them.


I guess I feel a teeny bit guilty saying I never visited my Dad's
grave after he was buried. I don't feel like he's there. Same
with my pets when they ask if I want the ashes back, no. It doesn't
give me any comfort. I have my memories.

nancy

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On 8/23/2016 2:14 PM, Cheri wrote in reply to this:
>> These from people who never knew the deceased in real life. Bonkers.

>
> I think they're hoping to be seen on TV, then there was the guy at JFK
> JR's memorial saying on TV "I don't really know a lot about him, but I
> know he was the last of The Camelots." LOL
>
> Cheri


From what I understand, people *still* flock to Graceland in Memphis on
the anniversary of his death. (The radio jocks called it "Elvis Death
Week".) For the first decade or so there was always news coverage of
these people who came from all over the world to stand outside the gates
holding candles and placing flowers. I don't get it.

Jill
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On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 10:14:06 AM UTC-6, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 8/23/2016 2:14 PM, Cheri wrote in reply to this:
> >> These from people who never knew the deceased in real life. Bonkers.

> >
> > I think they're hoping to be seen on TV, then there was the guy at JFK
> > JR's memorial saying on TV "I don't really know a lot about him, but I
> > know he was the last of The Camelots." LOL
> >
> > Cheri

>
> From what I understand, people *still* flock to Graceland in Memphis on
> the anniversary of his death. (The radio jocks called it "Elvis Death
> Week".) For the first decade or so there was always news coverage of
> these people who came from all over the world to stand outside the gates
> holding candles and placing flowers. I don't get it.
>
> Jill


Those who live their lives through others achievements and deeds need these anniversaries and birthdays to keep them happy and to have a reason for living. Not much different than the millions who watch sports day after day after day.
Some people have to live with the "herd instinct", individualism is "bad". Maybe it goes back to the old hunter gatherer way of coping with the adversity of living in a harsh world full of predators.
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On 8/23/2016 7:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> I can't imagine going to a cemetery around here and wandering around
> just to see the interesting names, stones and crypts, but it was an an
> incredible experience doing it there.


Well, maybe not where you are or not to you. I find old stones, crypts
and the inscriptions fascinating.

When I was a teenager my mom would take me to the dentist. Not far from
the dentist's office was the Old Raleigh Cemetery. It was unkempt,
overgrown with weeds and hadn't been used or well maintained since the
1940's. I convinced my mom to don some heavy boots (in case of snakes,
dontcha know) and tramp around in it with me. The oldest stones dated
from the early 1800's. The headstones of the married women buried there
referred to them as "beloved consorts".

There is a family cemetery on Dataw near the ruins of the original
plantation house. Both the ruins and the cemetery have been designated
historic landmarks.

I briefly dabbled with the idea of doing gravestone rubbings.

Jill
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> On 8/23/2016 2:14 PM, Cheri wrote in reply to this:
>>> These from people who never knew the deceased in real life. Bonkers.

>>
>> I think they're hoping to be seen on TV, then there was the guy at JFK
>> JR's memorial saying on TV "I don't really know a lot about him, but I
>> know he was the last of The Camelots." LOL
>>
>> Cheri

>
> From what I understand, people *still* flock to Graceland in Memphis on
> the anniversary of his death. (The radio jocks called it "Elvis Death
> Week".) For the first decade or so there was always news coverage of
> these people who came from all over the world to stand outside the gates
> holding candles and placing flowers. I don't get it.
>
> Jill


Me either, but I guess whatever gives people comfort.

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Roy wrote:
>Jill McQuown wrote:
>>Cheri wrote:
>> >Sumwun wrote:
>> >
>> >> These from people who never knew the deceased in real life. Bonkers.
>> >
>> > I think they're hoping to be seen on TV, then there was the guy at JFK
>> > JR's memorial saying on TV "I don't really know a lot about him, but I
>> > know he was the last of The Camelots." LOL
>> >
>> > Cheri

>>
>> From what I understand, people *still* flock to Graceland in Memphis on
>> the anniversary of his death. (The radio jocks called it "Elvis Death
>> Week".) For the first decade or so there was always news coverage of
>> these people who came from all over the world to stand outside the gates
>> holding candles and placing flowers. I don't get it.
>>
>> Jill

>
>Those who live their lives through others achievements and deeds need these anniversaries and birthdays to keep them happy and to have a reason for living. Not much different than the millions who watch sports day after day after day.
>Some people have to live with the "herd instinct", individualism is "bad". Maybe it goes back to the old hunter gatherer way of coping with the adversity of living in a harsh world full of predators.


Spoken as someone who has never had any close relationsips... that is
other than as parasite Roy's hosts... use them up, throw them away,
and move on to find the next victim, right Roy... spoken like the
arachnids who spin webs on the outside of my windows and suck the
bodies empty.
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:49:23 -0400, jmcquown >
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>On 8/23/2016 7:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> I can't imagine going to a cemetery around here and wandering around
>> just to see the interesting names, stones and crypts, but it was an an
>> incredible experience doing it there.

>
>Well, maybe not where you are or not to you. I find old stones, crypts
>and the inscriptions fascinating.
>
>When I was a teenager my mom would take me to the dentist. Not far from
>the dentist's office was the Old Raleigh Cemetery. It was unkempt,
>overgrown with weeds and hadn't been used or well maintained since the
>1940's. I convinced my mom to don some heavy boots (in case of snakes,
>dontcha know) and tramp around in it with me. The oldest stones dated
>from the early 1800's. The headstones of the married women buried there
>referred to them as "beloved consorts".
>
>There is a family cemetery on Dataw near the ruins of the original
>plantation house. Both the ruins and the cemetery have been designated
>historic landmarks.
>
>I briefly dabbled with the idea of doing gravestone rubbings.
>
>Jill


That was prior to the advent of photography. Nowadays those who are
interested in genealogy take photographs of tombstones.
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On Friday, August 26, 2016 at 4:04:54 PM UTC-6, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> Roy wrote:
> >Jill McQuown wrote:
> >>Cheri wrote:
> >> >Sumwun wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> These from people who never knew the deceased in real life. Bonkers..
> >> >
> >> > I think they're hoping to be seen on TV, then there was the guy at JFK
> >> > JR's memorial saying on TV "I don't really know a lot about him, but I
> >> > know he was the last of The Camelots." LOL
> >> >
> >> > Cheri
> >>
> >> From what I understand, people *still* flock to Graceland in Memphis on
> >> the anniversary of his death. (The radio jocks called it "Elvis Death
> >> Week".) For the first decade or so there was always news coverage of
> >> these people who came from all over the world to stand outside the gates
> >> holding candles and placing flowers. I don't get it.
> >>
> >> Jill

> >
> >Those who live their lives through others achievements and deeds need these anniversaries and birthdays to keep them happy and to have a reason for living. Not much different than the millions who watch sports day after day after day.
> >Some people have to live with the "herd instinct", individualism is "bad". Maybe it goes back to the old hunter gatherer way of coping with the adversity of living in a harsh world full of predators.

>
> Spoken as someone who has never had any close relationsips... that is
> other than as parasite Roy's hosts... use them up, throw them away,
> and move on to find the next victim, right Roy... spoken like the
> arachnids who spin webs on the outside of my windows and suck the
> bodies empty.


Whatever you do Brooky Baby, don't put up your shingle advertising your new-found diploma in psychiatric or psychological counseling 'cause I doubt that you would have a successful enterprise. How you interpret by discourse in such a way as to suggest that I am an arachnid is beyond my ken.
However, I'll give you an "e" for effort.
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> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:49:23 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 8/23/2016 7:11 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> I can't imagine going to a cemetery around here and wandering around
>>> just to see the interesting names, stones and crypts, but it was an an
>>> incredible experience doing it there.

>>
>>Well, maybe not where you are or not to you. I find old stones, crypts
>>and the inscriptions fascinating.
>>
>>When I was a teenager my mom would take me to the dentist. Not far from
>>the dentist's office was the Old Raleigh Cemetery. It was unkempt,
>>overgrown with weeds and hadn't been used or well maintained since the
>>1940's. I convinced my mom to don some heavy boots (in case of snakes,
>>dontcha know) and tramp around in it with me. The oldest stones dated
>>from the early 1800's. The headstones of the married women buried there
>>referred to them as "beloved consorts".
>>
>>There is a family cemetery on Dataw near the ruins of the original
>>plantation house. Both the ruins and the cemetery have been designated
>>historic landmarks.
>>
>>I briefly dabbled with the idea of doing gravestone rubbings.
>>
>>Jill

>
> That was prior to the advent of photography. Nowadays those who are
> interested in genealogy take photographs of tombstones.


And put them on Find A Grave, great place to look for relatives and
histories. I was able to see my great grandparents pictures there along with
the links to other family members, and it's free.

Cheri

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On 8/26/2016 6:11 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:49:23 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I briefly dabbled with the idea of doing gravestone rubbings.
>>
>> Jill

>
> That was prior to the advent of photography. Nowadays those who are
> interested in genealogy take photographs of tombstones.
>

Did I say anything about genealogy? No, I did not.

I'm talking about some of the fairly elaborately inscribed stones from
prior centuries.

Jill


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On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 22:40:15 -0400, jmcquown >
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>On 8/26/2016 6:11 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:49:23 -0400, jmcquown >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I briefly dabbled with the idea of doing gravestone rubbings.
>>>
>>> Jill

>>
>> That was prior to the advent of photography. Nowadays those who are
>> interested in genealogy take photographs of tombstones.
>>

>Did I say anything about genealogy? No, I did not.
>
>I'm talking about some of the fairly elaborately inscribed stones from
>prior centuries.


So what, nowadays photos are far better at capturing detail... hardly
anyone does rubbings anymore.
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> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 22:40:15 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 8/26/2016 6:11 PM, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>>> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 12:49:23 -0400, jmcquown >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I briefly dabbled with the idea of doing gravestone rubbings.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> That was prior to the advent of photography. Nowadays those who are
>>> interested in genealogy take photographs of tombstones.
>>>

>>Did I say anything about genealogy? No, I did not.
>>
>>I'm talking about some of the fairly elaborately inscribed stones from
>>prior centuries.

>
> So what, nowadays photos are far better at capturing detail... hardly
> anyone does rubbings anymore.


How do you know "hardly anyone does rubbings anymore?" Maybe just the very
few people who associate with you, don't you think?

Cheri

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On Saturday, August 27, 2016 at 8:35:46 PM UTC-5, Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 22:40:15 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
> >>> I briefly dabbled with the idea of doing gravestone rubbings.
> >>>
> >>> Jill
> >>
> >> That was prior to the advent of photography. Nowadays those who are
> >> interested in genealogy take photographs of tombstones.
> >>

> >Did I say anything about genealogy? No, I did not.
> >
> >I'm talking about some of the fairly elaborately inscribed stones from
> >prior centuries.

>
> So what, nowadays photos are far better at capturing detail... hardly
> anyone does rubbings anymore.
>
>

Photography does not show detail on very OLD, OLD tombstones.
On really old stone the only way to see the name and have any
detail a rubbing is the only solution.

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