In article >, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:

wonderful guy who was helping her out.
> >
> > I in fact offered her several valid suggestions and asked several
> > questions. She ignored the suggestions and proceeded to rant, so I took the
> > opportunity to guilt free tweak a handicapped person...this being one of
> > the few places in America where you can treat the handicapped as they
> > deserve and ask for without having someone sue you for forcing reality into
> > the discussion.
>
> The only ranting here I see is by you.

Where have I ranted?

> And for you to say what you just did is dispicable. It won't be forgotten.
>
> Nobody deserved to be handicapped for starters. So why in the hell would you
> say that just because a person is handicapped they deserve to be treated a
> certain way? Jeez.

You are socially handicapped and thus on usenet you are fair game. Learn to live
with it.

> > That act is what is known
> >> as trolling, which you already know.
> >
> > Trolls don't help. I offered sound advice. If there is a troll it's Julie,
> > it just amazes me that so many of you treat her like she cares

> >> And you bait her so you can continually abuse her. Get a life.
> >
> > I have a life and I have a hobby. Julie has a hobby and no life so she
> > makes herself miserable for our entertainment
>
> And my hobby is?

Posting little off-topic bits of your life as on-topic and expecting someone to
help you...then ignoring or throwing out senseless reasons why that advice isn't
appropriate



I have tons of hobbies. I generally don't post about them
> here but I suppose once in a while I may have. I have a life too.


Yes, making your daughter unfit for adulthood

In article >, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:

> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, "Julie Bove"
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> > I think kids who don't learn how to cook, clean and otherwise care for
> >> > themselves by 13 end up leaving their parents' houses ill prepared for
> >> > independent life and responsibilities of self care.
> >>
> >> Angela knows how to cook and do laundry. Neither of us much likes doing
> >> laundry. But she really hates cooking so I don't have her do it. Why
> >> should I? I like to cook.
> >
> > but she doesn't like what you cook. Are you following the dots?
>
> She likes a lot of what I cook. Just not chicken.

If she likes a lot of what you cook, except for chicken, why did you moan about
her diet?

"Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Julie Bove"
> >
> wrote:
>
> wonderful guy who was helping her out.
>> >
>> > I in fact offered her several valid suggestions and asked several
>> > questions. She ignored the suggestions and proceeded to rant, so I took
>> > the
>> > opportunity to guilt free tweak a handicapped person...this being one
>> > of
>> > the few places in America where you can treat the handicapped as they
>> > deserve and ask for without having someone sue you for forcing reality
>> > into
>> > the discussion.
>>
>> The only ranting here I see is by you.
>
> Where have I ranted?

In every reply to me.
>
>> And for you to say what you just did is dispicable. It won't be
>> forgotten.
>>
>> Nobody deserved to be handicapped for starters. So why in the hell would
>> you
>> say that just because a person is handicapped they deserve to be treated
>> a
>> certain way? Jeez.
>
> You are socially handicapped and thus on usenet you are fair game. Learn
> to live
> with it.

Oh bwahaha! Socially handicapped? I don't think so.
>
>> > That act is what is known
>> >> as trolling, which you already know.
>> >
>> > Trolls don't help. I offered sound advice. If there is a troll it's
>> > Julie,
>> > it just amazes me that so many of you treat her like she cares
>
>> >> And you bait her so you can continually abuse her. Get a life.
>> >
>> > I have a life and I have a hobby. Julie has a hobby and no life so she
>> > makes herself miserable for our entertainment
>>
>> And my hobby is?
>
> Posting little off-topic bits of your life as on-topic and expecting
> someone to
> help you...then ignoring or throwing out senseless reasons why that advice
> isn't
> appropriate

How is asking about a low carb diet off-topic? I can't remember how I
originally phrased it but I believe it was something about how do you get
someone to eat low carb when they don't like low carb food. Not off topic
at all.

> I have tons of hobbies. I generally don't post about them
>> here but I suppose once in a while I may have. I have a life too.
>
>
> Yes, making your daughter unfit for adulthood

FOAD!

"Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, "Julie Bove"
> >
> wrote:
>
>> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > In article >, "Julie Bove"
>> > >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> > I think kids who don't learn how to cook, clean and otherwise care
>> >> > for
>> >> > themselves by 13 end up leaving their parents' houses ill prepared
>> >> > for
>> >> > independent life and responsibilities of self care.
>> >>
>> >> Angela knows how to cook and do laundry. Neither of us much likes
>> >> doing
>> >> laundry. But she really hates cooking so I don't have her do it. Why
>> >> should I? I like to cook.
>> >
>> > but she doesn't like what you cook. Are you following the dots?
>>
>> She likes a lot of what I cook. Just not chicken.
>
> If she likes a lot of what you cook, except for chicken, why did you moan
> about
> her diet?

FOAD!

In article >, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:

> > If she likes a lot of what you cook, except for chicken, why did you moan
> > about her diet?
>
> FOAD!

thank you for proving my point

In article >, "Julie Bove" >
wrote:


> > Where have I ranted?
>
> In every reply to me.

So you consider offers of help to be rants? Now I understand you much better

> > You are socially handicapped and thus on usenet you are fair game. Learn to
> > live with it.
>
> Oh bwahaha! Socially handicapped? I don't think so.

But of course that is the primary hallmark of the socially handicapped. The
secondary hallmark of the socially handicapped is to blame others for their
problems.

> How is asking about a low carb diet off-topic? I can't remember how I
> originally phrased it but I believe it was something about how do you get
> someone to eat low carb when they don't like low carb food. Not off topic at
> all.

Because you have either deleted or poo-pooed every idea given to you


>
> > I have tons of hobbies. I generally don't post about them
> >> here but I suppose once in a while I may have. I have a life too.
> >
> >
> > Yes, making your daughter unfit for adulthood
>
> FOAD!

Here's a free lesson on how to do a flame: you have to feel it. So if I was to
say something like "I'd call you an ignorant bitch, but that would be an insult
to the ignorant and the bitches" I'd be feeling it.

On 8/19/2011 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Robert > wrote in message
> om...
>> On 8/18/2011 6:14 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
>>> In >, "Julie
>>> >
>>> wrote:
[snip]
>
> I know how to look up recipes. I know what she will and won't eat. And I
> know breaded food isn't low carb.

Most of the recipe links I sent weren't for breaded food. I
suspect that a few might have been, though.

> As for telling me why she doesn't like things, she usually doesn't know.

Have you thought about requiring her to eat another bite if
she can't tell you why she doesn't like it?

On 8/20/2011 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> unfortunately this really is her life, so you will simply have to decide
>> which is more important, you not touching meat, or her living to
>> adulthood, i hate to be harsh, but coming from a family where my parents
>> not only had to do things to my eyes medically that aftwards, my father
>> would throw his guts up, they paid for over a hundred k of surgical
>> procedures, starting in 1959 on their own, so i could see for a while, i
>> am sure grateful they were both able to do what needed doing, if they
>> haden't the doctors would have had no option but to cut out my eys because
>> the pain wouldn't have been bearable, Julie you are a smart woman, and
>> you love your child, now go do what needs doing, Lee
>
> As I said before... There are plenty of ways to cook meat without touching
> it. No harm will come to her if she doesn't eat meat on a stick. She won't
> touch it either. And the way I look at things, if you won't do something
> yourself, then don't expect others to do it. Now can't is another matter.

Why not buy a pair of tongs to hold the meat while you are
preparing it for cooking, and perhaps a second pair of tongs
for her to use while eating it (except when it's in pieces
small enough for a fork or spoon to be adequate)?

"Robert Miles" > wrote in message
. com...
> On 8/19/2011 3:57 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Robert > wrote in message
>> om...
>>> On 8/18/2011 6:14 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
>>>> In >, "Julie
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> I know how to look up recipes. I know what she will and won't eat. And
>> I
>> know breaded food isn't low carb.
>
> Most of the recipe links I sent weren't for breaded food. I
> suspect that a few might have been, though.
>
>> As for telling me why she doesn't like things, she usually doesn't know.
>
> Have you thought about requiring her to eat another bite if
> she can't tell you why she doesn't like it?

What??? Why in the world would I require her to eat something? No. I
would never do that. She has to eat a balanced diet. That is a
requirement. She has to have protein and she has to have low carb veggies.
She can choose what those are.

"Robert Miles" > wrote in message
. com...
> On 8/20/2011 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> unfortunately this really is her life, so you will simply have to decide
>>> which is more important, you not touching meat, or her living to
>>> adulthood, i hate to be harsh, but coming from a family where my parents
>>> not only had to do things to my eyes medically that aftwards, my father
>>> would throw his guts up, they paid for over a hundred k of surgical
>>> procedures, starting in 1959 on their own, so i could see for a while, i
>>> am sure grateful they were both able to do what needed doing, if they
>>> haden't the doctors would have had no option but to cut out my eys
>>> because
>>> the pain wouldn't have been bearable, Julie you are a smart woman, and
>>> you love your child, now go do what needs doing, Lee
>>
>> As I said before... There are plenty of ways to cook meat without
>> touching
>> it. No harm will come to her if she doesn't eat meat on a stick. She
>> won't
>> touch it either. And the way I look at things, if you won't do something
>> yourself, then don't expect others to do it. Now can't is another
>> matter.
>
> Why not buy a pair of tongs to hold the meat while you are
> preparing it for cooking, and perhaps a second pair of tongs
> for her to use while eating it (except when it's in pieces
> small enough for a fork or spoon to be adequate)?

I own tongs. As I said, there are plenty of ways to prepare meat without
touching it. And why in the world would anyone eat food with tongs???

Julie Bove > wrote:


: The dishwasher wasn't working for many months. Well it was but it caused
: water to come out of the air flow valve. So I couldn't use it. I wouldn't
: put a broiler pan in there anyway. It wouldn't come clean. And I won't
: scrub it by hand. I also dislike cleaning the oven. I do have a self
: cleaning one. And because I do not broil, I rarely have to clean it. But
: bottom line I see no reason to heat up the oven or use a broiler pan to cook
: a single serving of meat for one person. That's just too much work.

I use the broiler but not the broiler pan. I take a salow oven-proof adn
line it with aluminum foil and then plac a small(fits inside the pan)
rack(for my round pan I use a cake cooling rack which I dedicate to that
use) and put the food on that for broiling. I do fish and meal using
this method and usually have oly the rack to clean, and, since it is
dedicaed to either fish or meat, I don't feel obligated to get it shiney
clean. If I had a dishwashere, I might give it a curory clean then
running it throug the machine (with the other dishes).

I use my self clean oven feature during my sleep period. For me it is the
night, Julie, for you it could be the morning or when ever you geat least
3 housrs of continuos sleep. That way I don't notice the smell.

Wendy

In article >, "W. Baker" >
wrote:

> I use the broiler but not the broiler pan. I take a salow oven-proof adn
> line it with aluminum foil and then plac a small(fits inside the pan)
> rack(for my round pan I use a cake cooling rack which I dedicate to that
> use) and put the food on that for broiling. I do fish and meal using
> this method and usually have oly the rack to clean, and, since it is
> dedicaed to either fish or meat, I don't feel obligated to get it shiney
> clean. If I had a dishwashere, I might give it a curory clean then
> running it throug the machine (with the other dishes).

oh please, don't you know that julie will complain about the high cost of foil
or that she hates the crinkling sound it makes or how she won't touch yucky
stuff so she wouldn't be able to throw the dirtied foil away.

don't deprive julie of her angst

For my one person meals I use a small electric skillet. When I have
finished I put a bit of dishwashing liquid in it and add hot water. When
I have eaten it is about 10 seconds work to empty the pan, run a scourer
over it and rinse and dry. I find it the easiest clean up of all
cooking/eating stuff.

"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
>
> : The dishwasher wasn't working for many months. Well it was but it
> caused
> : water to come out of the air flow valve. So I couldn't use it. I
> wouldn't
> : put a broiler pan in there anyway. It wouldn't come clean. And I
> won't
> : scrub it by hand. I also dislike cleaning the oven. I do have a
> self
> : cleaning one. And because I do not broil, I rarely have to clean
> it. But
> : bottom line I see no reason to heat up the oven or use a broiler pan
> to cook
> : a single serving of meat for one person. That's just too much work.
>
> I use the broiler but not the broiler pan. I take a salow oven-proof
> adn
> line it with aluminum foil and then plac a small(fits inside the pan)
> rack(for my round pan I use a cake cooling rack which I dedicate to
> that
> use) and put the food on that for broiling. I do fish and meal
> using
> this method and usually have oly the rack to clean, and, since it is
> dedicaed to either fish or meat, I don't feel obligated to get it
> shiney
> clean. If I had a dishwashere, I might give it a curory clean then
> running it throug the machine (with the other dishes).
>
> I use my self clean oven feature during my sleep period. For me it is
> the
> night, Julie, for you it could be the morning or when ever you geat
> least
> 3 housrs of continuos sleep. That way I don't notice the smell.
>
> Wendy
>
>
>
>

Ozgirl > wrote:
: For my one person meals I use a small electric skillet. When I have
: finished I put a bit of dishwashing liquid in it and add hot water. When
: I have eaten it is about 10 seconds work to empty the pan, run a scourer
: over it and rinse and dry. I find it the easiest clean up of all
: cooking/eating stuff.

That's fine, but I lie fod cooked in the broiler with the overhead heat,
so the small fry pan doesn't work for those fods. It works for egg
breakfast, small amount of sauteed veggies, etc, but I do like broiled
meat and fish, rather than pan seared. matter of personal taste adn what
we are accustomed to, so, for me, small broiler pan works well,
giving me the tst I like and a reltively easy clean-up.

Wendy

: "W. Baker"
>
wrote in message : ...
: > Julie Bove > wrote:
: >
: >
: > : The dishwasher wasn't working for many months. Well it was but it
: > caused
: > : water to come out of the air flow valve. So I couldn't use it. I
: > wouldn't
: > : put a broiler pan in there anyway. It wouldn't come clean. And I
: > won't
: > : scrub it by hand. I also dislike cleaning the oven. I do have a
: > self
: > : cleaning one. And because I do not broil, I rarely have to clean
: > it. But
: > : bottom line I see no reason to heat up the oven or use a broiler pan
: > to cook
: > : a single serving of meat for one person. That's just too much work.
: >
: > I use the broiler but not the broiler pan. I take a salow oven-proof
: > adn
: > line it with aluminum foil and then plac a small(fits inside the pan)
: > rack(for my round pan I use a cake cooling rack which I dedicate to
: > that
: > use) and put the food on that for broiling. I do fish and meal
: > using
: > this method and usually have oly the rack to clean, and, since it is
: > dedicaed to either fish or meat, I don't feel obligated to get it
: > shiney
: > clean. If I had a dishwashere, I might give it a curory clean then
: > running it throug the machine (with the other dishes).
: >
: > I use my self clean oven feature during my sleep period. For me it is
: > the
: > night, Julie, for you it could be the morning or when ever you geat
: > least
: > 3 housrs of continuos sleep. That way I don't notice the smell.
: >
: > Wendy
: >
: >
: >
: >

"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Ozgirl > wrote:
> : For my one person meals I use a small electric skillet. When I have
> : finished I put a bit of dishwashing liquid in it and add hot water.
> When
> : I have eaten it is about 10 seconds work to empty the pan, run a
> scourer
> : over it and rinse and dry. I find it the easiest clean up of all
> : cooking/eating stuff.
>
> That's fine, but I lie fod cooked in the broiler with the overhead
> heat,
> so the small fry pan doesn't work for those fods. It works for egg
> breakfast, small amount of sauteed veggies, etc, but I do like broiled
> meat and fish, rather than pan seared. matter of personal taste adn
> what
> we are accustomed to,

Yes, I like pan seared food so it works for me. I grew up in a house
where food was fried in dripping every day. I really hate fat now, lol.
But I do like pan "frying"

both methods work, and we have been using a new wave oven that does things
very nicely as well, Lee
"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Ozgirl > wrote:
> : For my one person meals I use a small electric skillet. When I have
> : finished I put a bit of dishwashing liquid in it and add hot water. When
> : I have eaten it is about 10 seconds work to empty the pan, run a scourer
> : over it and rinse and dry. I find it the easiest clean up of all
> : cooking/eating stuff.
>
> That's fine, but I lie fod cooked in the broiler with the overhead heat,
> so the small fry pan doesn't work for those fods. It works for egg
> breakfast, small amount of sauteed veggies, etc, but I do like broiled
> meat and fish, rather than pan seared. matter of personal taste adn what
> we are accustomed to, so, for me, small broiler pan works well,
> giving me the tst I like and a reltively easy clean-up.
>
> Wendy
>
> : "W. Baker"
> >
> wrote in message : ...
> : > Julie Bove > wrote:
> : >
> : >
> : > : The dishwasher wasn't working for many months. Well it was but it
> : > caused
> : > : water to come out of the air flow valve. So I couldn't use it. I
> : > wouldn't
> : > : put a broiler pan in there anyway. It wouldn't come clean. And I
> : > won't
> : > : scrub it by hand. I also dislike cleaning the oven. I do have a
> : > self
> : > : cleaning one. And because I do not broil, I rarely have to clean
> : > it. But
> : > : bottom line I see no reason to heat up the oven or use a broiler pan
> : > to cook
> : > : a single serving of meat for one person. That's just too much work.
> : >
> : > I use the broiler but not the broiler pan. I take a salow oven-proof
> : > adn
> : > line it with aluminum foil and then plac a small(fits inside the pan)
> : > rack(for my round pan I use a cake cooling rack which I dedicate to
> : > that
> : > use) and put the food on that for broiling. I do fish and meal
> : > using
> : > this method and usually have oly the rack to clean, and, since it is
> : > dedicaed to either fish or meat, I don't feel obligated to get it
> : > shiney
> : > clean. If I had a dishwashere, I might give it a curory clean then
> : > running it throug the machine (with the other dishes).
> : >
> : > I use my self clean oven feature during my sleep period. For me it is
> : > the
> : > night, Julie, for you it could be the morning or when ever you geat
> : > least
> : > 3 housrs of continuos sleep. That way I don't notice the smell.
> : >
> : > Wendy
> : >
> : >
> : >
> : >

Is that like a Flavour Wave? I have one of those. Love it for some
things.

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> both methods work, and we have been using a new wave oven that does
> things very nicely as well, Lee

"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>
>
> : The dishwasher wasn't working for many months. Well it was but it
> caused
> : water to come out of the air flow valve. So I couldn't use it. I
> wouldn't
> : put a broiler pan in there anyway. It wouldn't come clean. And I won't
> : scrub it by hand. I also dislike cleaning the oven. I do have a self
> : cleaning one. And because I do not broil, I rarely have to clean it.
> But
> : bottom line I see no reason to heat up the oven or use a broiler pan to
> cook
> : a single serving of meat for one person. That's just too much work.
>
> I use the broiler but not the broiler pan. I take a salow oven-proof adn
> line it with aluminum foil and then plac a small(fits inside the pan)
> rack(for my round pan I use a cake cooling rack which I dedicate to that
> use) and put the food on that for broiling. I do fish and meal using
> this method and usually have oly the rack to clean, and, since it is
> dedicaed to either fish or meat, I don't feel obligated to get it shiney
> clean. If I had a dishwashere, I might give it a curory clean then
> running it throug the machine (with the other dishes).
>
> I use my self clean oven feature during my sleep period. For me it is the
> night, Julie, for you it could be the morning or when ever you geat least
> 3 housrs of continuos sleep. That way I don't notice the smell.

I can't stand to use the self clean part when I am sleeping. I am very
sensitive to odors and it prevents me from sleeping. Plus it heats up the
house too much. I tend to only do it in the winter and only when necessary.

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
> For my one person meals I use a small electric skillet. When I have
> finished I put a bit of dishwashing liquid in it and add hot water. When I
> have eaten it is about 10 seconds work to empty the pan, run a scourer
> over it and rinse and dry. I find it the easiest clean up of all
> cooking/eating stuff.

I use a skillet but not electric. No place to store one and no place to
plug it in and use it.

what is a flavor wave, this is called a new wave oven, sometimes seen on tv.
circular shape with a dome over it, heating element in the top.
convection/infrared el heating element, cooks a frozen chicken in fourty
minutes... reheats bread and crisps frozen fries great, takes up little
space nd this one the the extention ring will hold a nine by nine pan for
desserts or cassaroles. Lee
"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
> Is that like a Flavour Wave? I have one of those. Love it for some things.
>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> both methods work, and we have been using a new wave oven that does
>> things very nicely as well, Lee
>
>

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "W. Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Ozgirl > wrote:
>> : For my one person meals I use a small electric skillet. When I have
>> : finished I put a bit of dishwashing liquid in it and add hot water.
>> When
>> : I have eaten it is about 10 seconds work to empty the pan, run a
>> scourer
>> : over it and rinse and dry. I find it the easiest clean up of all
>> : cooking/eating stuff.
>>
>> That's fine, but I lie fod cooked in the broiler with the overhead heat,
>> so the small fry pan doesn't work for those fods. It works for egg
>> breakfast, small amount of sauteed veggies, etc, but I do like broiled
>> meat and fish, rather than pan seared. matter of personal taste adn what
>> we are accustomed to,
>
> Yes, I like pan seared food so it works for me. I grew up in a house where
> food was fried in dripping every day. I really hate fat now, lol. But I do
> like pan "frying"

I grew up with pan frying too.

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> what is a flavor wave, this is called a new wave oven, sometimes seen
> on tv. circular shape with a dome over it, heating element in the top.
> convection/infrared el heating element, cooks a frozen chicken in
> fourty minutes... reheats bread and crisps frozen fries great, takes
> up little space nd this one the the extention ring will hold a nine by
> nine pan for desserts or cassaroles. Lee

http://www.danozdirect.com.au/produc...wave-turbo.php

At the rental I had before this one I couldn't figure out how to work
the archaic oven, lol. My son did eventually but I had gotten used to
doing things in the Flavor Wave oven.

i was only able to read part o f the description but if its not the same
thing its close and probably made by the same folks... mine has a plastic
base with an insert pan that must be there, you can cook on the bpttom pan,
on the two racks which give four heigths depending on how you position them,
a smaller pan and an extender ring. there are several other accessories but
since this was a gift i am not sure what all of those are... the dome and
heating element come apart and the extender ring can be added to the dome to
allow for larger turkey or a pan, Lee
"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> what is a flavor wave, this is called a new wave oven, sometimes seen
>> on tv. circular shape with a dome over it, heating element in the top.
>> convection/infrared el heating element, cooks a frozen chicken in
>> fourty minutes... reheats bread and crisps frozen fries great, takes
>> up little space nd this one the the extention ring will hold a nine by
>> nine pan for desserts or cassaroles. Lee
>
> http://www.danozdirect.com.au/produc...wave-turbo.php
>
> At the rental I had before this one I couldn't figure out how to work
> the archaic oven, lol. My son did eventually but I had gotten used to
> doing things in the Flavor Wave oven.

Seems very similar. Its an American product and I am sure there would be
a few similar products there.

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
> i was only able to read part o f the description but if its not the
> same thing its close and probably made by the same folks... mine has a
> plastic base with an insert pan that must be there, you can cook on
> the bpttom pan, on the two racks which give four heigths depending on
> how you position them, a smaller pan and an extender ring. there are
> several other accessories but since this was a gift i am not sure what
> all of those are... the dome and heating element come apart and the
> extender ring can be added to the dome to allow for larger turkey or a
> pan, Lee
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> what is a flavor wave, this is called a new wave oven, sometimes
>>> seen
>>> on tv. circular shape with a dome over it, heating element in the
>>> top.
>>> convection/infrared el heating element, cooks a frozen chicken in
>>> fourty minutes... reheats bread and crisps frozen fries great, takes
>>> up little space nd this one the the extention ring will hold a nine
>>> by
>>> nine pan for desserts or cassaroles. Lee
>>
>> http://www.danozdirect.com.au/produc...wave-turbo.php
>>
>> At the rental I had before this one I couldn't figure out how to work
>> the archaic oven, lol. My son did eventually but I had gotten used to
>> doing things in the Flavor Wave oven.
>
>
>

all i can say is that its great in small places, and when a friend ordered
hers they offerred a baby version to take on trips, if i could get that
smaller one i would for just that purpose, it would make putting my own food
together on trips much easier, when we get things settled with the house i
will persue it further, but at this time it is also on the i want not the i
need list. Lee
"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
> Seems very similar. Its an American product and I am sure there would be a
> few similar products there.
>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> ...
>> i was only able to read part o f the description but if its not the same
>> thing its close and probably made by the same folks... mine has a plastic
>> base with an insert pan that must be there, you can cook on the bpttom
>> pan, on the two racks which give four heigths depending on how you
>> position them, a smaller pan and an extender ring. there are several
>> other accessories but since this was a gift i am not sure what all of
>> those are... the dome and heating element come apart and the extender
>> ring can be added to the dome to allow for larger turkey or a pan, Lee
>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> what is a flavor wave, this is called a new wave oven, sometimes seen
>>>> on tv. circular shape with a dome over it, heating element in the top.
>>>> convection/infrared el heating element, cooks a frozen chicken in
>>>> fourty minutes... reheats bread and crisps frozen fries great, takes
>>>> up little space nd this one the the extention ring will hold a nine by
>>>> nine pan for desserts or cassaroles. Lee
>>>
>>> http://www.danozdirect.com.au/produc...wave-turbo.php
>>>
>>> At the rental I had before this one I couldn't figure out how to work
>>> the archaic oven, lol. My son did eventually but I had gotten used to
>>> doing things in the Flavor Wave oven.
>>
>>
>>

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
...
>i was only able to read part o f the description but if its not the same
>thing its close and probably made by the same folks... mine has a plastic
>base with an insert pan that must be there, you can cook on the bpttom pan,
>on the two racks which give four heigths depending on how you position
>them, a smaller pan and an extender ring. there are several other
>accessories but since this was a gift i am not sure what all of those
>are... the dome and heating element come apart and the extender ring can be
>added to the dome to allow for larger turkey or a pan, Lee

It's a NuWave. I love mine and use it just about every day.

Cheri

yes we were comparing it, the new wave to the flavor wave, its a very nice
item, i am not much for these small appliances but i really like this one,
Lee
"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> ...
>>i was only able to read part o f the description but if its not the same
>>thing its close and probably made by the same folks... mine has a plastic
>>base with an insert pan that must be there, you can cook on the bpttom
>>pan, on the two racks which give four heigths depending on how you
>>position them, a smaller pan and an extender ring. there are several
>>other accessories but since this was a gift i am not sure what all of
>>those are... the dome and heating element come apart and the extender ring
>>can be added to the dome to allow for larger turkey or a pan, Lee
>
> It's a NuWave. I love mine and use it just about every day.
>
> Cheri

Cheri > wrote:
: "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
: ...
: >i was only able to read part o f the description but if its not the same
: >thing its close and probably made by the same folks... mine has a plastic
: >base with an insert pan that must be there, you can cook on the bpttom pan,
: >on the two racks which give four heigths depending on how you position
: >them, a smaller pan and an extender ring. there are several other
: >accessories but since this was a gift i am not sure what all of those
: >are... the dome and heating element come apart and the extender ring can be
: >added to the dome to allow for larger turkey or a pan, Lee

: It's a NuWave. I love mine and use it just about every day.

: Cheri

Are these those oven things they sho on infomercials wit amiddle
aged-older pair selling?

Wendy

"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Cheri > wrote:
> : "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> : ...
> : >i was only able to read part o f the description but if its not the
> same
> : >thing its close and probably made by the same folks... mine has a
> plastic
> : >base with an insert pan that must be there, you can cook on the bpttom
> pan,
> : >on the two racks which give four heigths depending on how you position
> : >them, a smaller pan and an extender ring. there are several other
> : >accessories but since this was a gift i am not sure what all of those
> : >are... the dome and heating element come apart and the extender ring
> can be
> : >added to the dome to allow for larger turkey or a pan, Lee
>
> : It's a NuWave. I love mine and use it just about every day.
>
> : Cheri
>
> Are these those oven things they sho on infomercials wit amiddle
> aged-older pair selling?
>
> Wendy

I don't know. Here is what they look like. Now I have bought 5 total as
gifts for kids etc., but I do have a complaint that seems to be common, and
that is that the plastic domes crack close to the removeable top, not all
the way through and doesn't affect the cooking, but definite cracks. Since
these ovens are more expensive than microwaves, they should be better
constructed of better materials than that. Also the plastic dome yellows
over time.

http://www.mynuwaveoven.com/?ref_ver...godfyIXzgCheri

On 9/5/2011 12:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Robert > wrote in message
> . com...
>> On 8/20/2011 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> unfortunately this really is her life, so you will simply have to decide
>>>> which is more important, you not touching meat, or her living to
>>>> adulthood, i hate to be harsh, but coming from a family where my parents
>>>> not only had to do things to my eyes medically that aftwards, my father
>>>> would throw his guts up, they paid for over a hundred k of surgical
>>>> procedures, starting in 1959 on their own, so i could see for a while, i
>>>> am sure grateful they were both able to do what needed doing, if they
>>>> haden't the doctors would have had no option but to cut out my eys
>>>> because
>>>> the pain wouldn't have been bearable, Julie you are a smart woman, and
>>>> you love your child, now go do what needs doing, Lee
>>>
>>> As I said before... There are plenty of ways to cook meat without
>>> touching
>>> it. No harm will come to her if she doesn't eat meat on a stick. She
>>> won't
>>> touch it either. And the way I look at things, if you won't do something
>>> yourself, then don't expect others to do it. Now can't is another
>>> matter.
>>
>> Why not buy a pair of tongs to hold the meat while you are
>> preparing it for cooking, and perhaps a second pair of tongs
>> for her to use while eating it (except when it's in pieces
>> small enough for a fork or spoon to be adequate)?
>
> I own tongs. As I said, there are plenty of ways to prepare meat without
> touching it. And why in the world would anyone eat food with tongs???

I'd expect few except those who don't want to touch meat with their
hands to eat it with tongs instead, but you appear to be teaching
her not to touch meat with her hands.

"Robert Miles" > wrote in message
.com...
> On 9/5/2011 12:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Robert > wrote in message
>> . com...
>>> On 8/20/2011 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> unfortunately this really is her life, so you will simply have to
>>>>> decide
>>>>> which is more important, you not touching meat, or her living to
>>>>> adulthood, i hate to be harsh, but coming from a family where my
>>>>> parents
>>>>> not only had to do things to my eyes medically that aftwards, my
>>>>> father
>>>>> would throw his guts up, they paid for over a hundred k of surgical
>>>>> procedures, starting in 1959 on their own, so i could see for a while,
>>>>> i
>>>>> am sure grateful they were both able to do what needed doing, if they
>>>>> haden't the doctors would have had no option but to cut out my eys
>>>>> because
>>>>> the pain wouldn't have been bearable, Julie you are a smart woman,
>>>>> and
>>>>> you love your child, now go do what needs doing, Lee
>>>>
>>>> As I said before... There are plenty of ways to cook meat without
>>>> touching
>>>> it. No harm will come to her if she doesn't eat meat on a stick. She
>>>> won't
>>>> touch it either. And the way I look at things, if you won't do
>>>> something
>>>> yourself, then don't expect others to do it. Now can't is another
>>>> matter.
>>>
>>> Why not buy a pair of tongs to hold the meat while you are
>>> preparing it for cooking, and perhaps a second pair of tongs
>>> for her to use while eating it (except when it's in pieces
>>> small enough for a fork or spoon to be adequate)?
>>
>> I own tongs. As I said, there are plenty of ways to prepare meat without
>> touching it. And why in the world would anyone eat food with tongs???
>
> I'd expect few except those who don't want to touch meat with their
> hands to eat it with tongs instead, but you appear to be teaching
> her not to touch meat with her hands.

Why would anyone eat meat with their hands? That is certainly not the way I
was taught to eat. We use our knife and fork. Even for fried chicken.
When we ate that. I haven't eaten that often and not since I was a kid.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Robert Miles" > wrote in message
> .com...
>> On 9/5/2011 12:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Robert > wrote in message
>>> . com...
>>>> On 8/20/2011 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> unfortunately this really is her life, so you will simply have to
>>>>>> decide
>>>>>> which is more important, you not touching meat, or her living to
>>>>>> adulthood, i hate to be harsh, but coming from a family where my
>>>>>> parents
>>>>>> not only had to do things to my eyes medically that aftwards, my
>>>>>> father
>>>>>> would throw his guts up, they paid for over a hundred k of
>>>>>> surgical
>>>>>> procedures, starting in 1959 on their own, so i could see for a
>>>>>> while, i
>>>>>> am sure grateful they were both able to do what needed doing, if
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> haden't the doctors would have had no option but to cut out my
>>>>>> eys
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> the pain wouldn't have been bearable, Julie you are a smart
>>>>>> woman, and
>>>>>> you love your child, now go do what needs doing, Lee
>>>>>
>>>>> As I said before... There are plenty of ways to cook meat without
>>>>> touching
>>>>> it. No harm will come to her if she doesn't eat meat on a stick.
>>>>> She
>>>>> won't
>>>>> touch it either. And the way I look at things, if you won't do
>>>>> something
>>>>> yourself, then don't expect others to do it. Now can't is another
>>>>> matter.
>>>>
>>>> Why not buy a pair of tongs to hold the meat while you are
>>>> preparing it for cooking, and perhaps a second pair of tongs
>>>> for her to use while eating it (except when it's in pieces
>>>> small enough for a fork or spoon to be adequate)?
>>>
>>> I own tongs. As I said, there are plenty of ways to prepare meat
>>> without
>>> touching it. And why in the world would anyone eat food with
>>> tongs???
>>
>> I'd expect few except those who don't want to touch meat with their
>> hands to eat it with tongs instead, but you appear to be teaching
>> her not to touch meat with her hands.
>
> Why would anyone eat meat with their hands? That is certainly not the
> way I was taught to eat. We use our knife and fork. Even for fried
> chicken. When we ate that. I haven't eaten that often and not since I
> was a kid.

I eat chicken with my hands, also salad with my hands I pick up chop
and steak bones too to get the last of the meat off

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...

> I eat chicken with my hands, also salad with my hands I pick up chop
> and steak bones too to get the last of the meat off

Me too.

Cheri

Ozgirl > wrote:


: "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
: ...
: >
: > "Robert Miles" > wrote in message
: > .com...
: >> On 9/5/2011 12:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
: >>> "Robert > wrote in message
: >>> . com...
: >>>> On 8/20/2011 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
: >>>>> > wrote in message
: >>>>> ...
: >>>>>> unfortunately this really is her life, so you will simply have to
: >>>>>> decide
: >>>>>> which is more important, you not touching meat, or her living to
: >>>>>> adulthood, i hate to be harsh, but coming from a family where my
: >>>>>> parents
: >>>>>> not only had to do things to my eyes medically that aftwards, my
: >>>>>> father
: >>>>>> would throw his guts up, they paid for over a hundred k of
: >>>>>> surgical
: >>>>>> procedures, starting in 1959 on their own, so i could see for a
: >>>>>> while, i
: >>>>>> am sure grateful they were both able to do what needed doing, if
: >>>>>> they
: >>>>>> haden't the doctors would have had no option but to cut out my
: >>>>>> eys
: >>>>>> because
: >>>>>> the pain wouldn't have been bearable, Julie you are a smart
: >>>>>> woman, and
: >>>>>> you love your child, now go do what needs doing, Lee
: >>>>>
: >>>>> As I said before... There are plenty of ways to cook meat without
: >>>>> touching
: >>>>> it. No harm will come to her if she doesn't eat meat on a stick.
: >>>>> She
: >>>>> won't
: >>>>> touch it either. And the way I look at things, if you won't do
: >>>>> something
: >>>>> yourself, then don't expect others to do it. Now can't is another
: >>>>> matter.
: >>>>
: >>>> Why not buy a pair of tongs to hold the meat while you are
: >>>> preparing it for cooking, and perhaps a second pair of tongs
: >>>> for her to use while eating it (except when it's in pieces
: >>>> small enough for a fork or spoon to be adequate)?
: >>>
: >>> I own tongs. As I said, there are plenty of ways to prepare meat
: >>> without
: >>> touching it. And why in the world would anyone eat food with
: >>> tongs???
: >>
: >> I'd expect few except those who don't want to touch meat with their
: >> hands to eat it with tongs instead, but you appear to be teaching
: >> her not to touch meat with her hands.
: >
: > Why would anyone eat meat with their hands? That is certainly not the
: > way I was taught to eat. We use our knife and fork. Even for fried
: > chicken. When we ate that. I haven't eaten that often and not since I
: > was a kid.

: I eat chicken with my hands, also salad with my hands I pick up chop
: and steak bones too to get the last of the meat off

Me too and it is fun as well as delicious. Just think of ating a lamb
chop without picking the bones. You would leave half behind. Tonight I
am having a treat, roasted beef bones that they had on sale at a good
price. I will just gnaw away and have a great time all by myself. It wil
be accompanied by some lovely fresh baby beets iget at the farmers markey
and pressure cooked last night. I will have some left for tomorrow. also
some tiny tomatoes. wonderful dinner that is cooking right now as I waste
time on this computer.

Wendy

"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Robert Miles" > wrote in message
>> .com...
>>> On 9/5/2011 12:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> "Robert > wrote in message
>>>> . com...
>>>>> On 8/20/2011 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> unfortunately this really is her life, so you will simply have to
>>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>> which is more important, you not touching meat, or her living to
>>>>>>> adulthood, i hate to be harsh, but coming from a family where my
>>>>>>> parents
>>>>>>> not only had to do things to my eyes medically that aftwards, my
>>>>>>> father
>>>>>>> would throw his guts up, they paid for over a hundred k of surgical
>>>>>>> procedures, starting in 1959 on their own, so i could see for a
>>>>>>> while, i
>>>>>>> am sure grateful they were both able to do what needed doing, if
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> haden't the doctors would have had no option but to cut out my eys
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> the pain wouldn't have been bearable, Julie you are a smart woman,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> you love your child, now go do what needs doing, Lee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I said before... There are plenty of ways to cook meat without
>>>>>> touching
>>>>>> it. No harm will come to her if she doesn't eat meat on a stick. She
>>>>>> won't
>>>>>> touch it either. And the way I look at things, if you won't do
>>>>>> something
>>>>>> yourself, then don't expect others to do it. Now can't is another
>>>>>> matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not buy a pair of tongs to hold the meat while you are
>>>>> preparing it for cooking, and perhaps a second pair of tongs
>>>>> for her to use while eating it (except when it's in pieces
>>>>> small enough for a fork or spoon to be adequate)?
>>>>
>>>> I own tongs. As I said, there are plenty of ways to prepare meat
>>>> without
>>>> touching it. And why in the world would anyone eat food with tongs???
>>>
>>> I'd expect few except those who don't want to touch meat with their
>>> hands to eat it with tongs instead, but you appear to be teaching
>>> her not to touch meat with her hands.
>>
>> Why would anyone eat meat with their hands? That is certainly not the
>> way I was taught to eat. We use our knife and fork. Even for fried
>> chicken. When we ate that. I haven't eaten that often and not since I
>> was a kid.
>
> I eat chicken with my hands, also salad with my hands I pick up chop
> and steak bones too to get the last of the meat off

Once in a while I will eat salad with my hands. I do eat chicken nuggets
with my hands, not that I eat them very often. Can't really remember the
last time I did. I don't really like them any more. I guess chicken strips
would be eaten with the hands. I never ate any though. Mostly though I
don't like to get food on my hands.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Robert Miles" > wrote in message
>>> .com...
>>>> On 9/5/2011 12:30 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> "Robert > wrote in message
>>>>> . com...
>>>>>> On 8/20/2011 11:13 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>>>> > wrote in message
>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>> unfortunately this really is her life, so you will simply have
>>>>>>>> to decide
>>>>>>>> which is more important, you not touching meat, or her living
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> adulthood, i hate to be harsh, but coming from a family where
>>>>>>>> my parents
>>>>>>>> not only had to do things to my eyes medically that aftwards,
>>>>>>>> my father
>>>>>>>> would throw his guts up, they paid for over a hundred k of
>>>>>>>> surgical
>>>>>>>> procedures, starting in 1959 on their own, so i could see for a
>>>>>>>> while, i
>>>>>>>> am sure grateful they were both able to do what needed doing,
>>>>>>>> if they
>>>>>>>> haden't the doctors would have had no option but to cut out my
>>>>>>>> eys
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> the pain wouldn't have been bearable, Julie you are a smart
>>>>>>>> woman, and
>>>>>>>> you love your child, now go do what needs doing, Lee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I said before... There are plenty of ways to cook meat
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> touching
>>>>>>> it. No harm will come to her if she doesn't eat meat on a
>>>>>>> stick. She
>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>> touch it either. And the way I look at things, if you won't do
>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>> yourself, then don't expect others to do it. Now can't is
>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>> matter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not buy a pair of tongs to hold the meat while you are
>>>>>> preparing it for cooking, and perhaps a second pair of tongs
>>>>>> for her to use while eating it (except when it's in pieces
>>>>>> small enough for a fork or spoon to be adequate)?
>>>>>
>>>>> I own tongs. As I said, there are plenty of ways to prepare meat
>>>>> without
>>>>> touching it. And why in the world would anyone eat food with
>>>>> tongs???
>>>>
>>>> I'd expect few except those who don't want to touch meat with their
>>>> hands to eat it with tongs instead, but you appear to be teaching
>>>> her not to touch meat with her hands.
>>>
>>> Why would anyone eat meat with their hands? That is certainly not
>>> the way I was taught to eat. We use our knife and fork. Even for
>>> fried chicken. When we ate that. I haven't eaten that often and not
>>> since I was a kid.
>>
>> I eat chicken with my hands, also salad with my hands I pick up
>> chop and steak bones too to get the last of the meat off
>
> Once in a while I will eat salad with my hands. I do eat chicken
> nuggets with my hands, not that I eat them very often. Can't really
> remember the last time I did. I don't really like them any more. I
> guess chicken strips would be eaten with the hands. I never ate any
> though. Mostly though I don't like to get food on my hands.

I am constantly wiping my hands and mouth however I eat. As a child I
hated eating ice cream because it went all over my face. So I used to
wipe my face with every bite. I guess that's why I do it today. I do
hate greasy stuff on my hands and can't wait to get some hot water and
soap onto them when cooking. I mix meatballs etc with my hands and the
boys like fatty bacon so I get fat on my hands when cutting the rashers
in half. IN a restaurant I can go through my serviette and everyone
else's plus ask for more I love places that still give cloth napkins.
>
>

On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:11:43 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> wrote:

>
>
>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>
>> Why would anyone eat meat with their hands? That is certainly not the
>> way I was taught to eat. We use our knife and fork. Even for fried
>> chicken. When we ate that. I haven't eaten that often and not since I
>> was a kid.
>
>I eat chicken with my hands, also salad with my hands I pick up chop
>and steak bones too to get the last of the meat off

A woman after my own heart!
--
BettyB. -- www.flamingo-code.com
There is always the potential to change one's direction and go another way

> wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 7 Sep 2011 09:11:43 +1000, "Ozgirl"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>
>>> Why would anyone eat meat with their hands? That is certainly not
>>> the
>>> way I was taught to eat. We use our knife and fork. Even for fried
>>> chicken. When we ate that. I haven't eaten that often and not since
>>> I
>>> was a kid.
>>
>>I eat chicken with my hands, also salad with my hands I pick up
>>chop
>>and steak bones too to get the last of the meat off
>
> A woman after my own heart!

I think I lived during the Renaissance period in my last life

it is a couple that sells it on tv, not sure of their age...

you can google their website and order online, a friend did this, they will
offer you a crapload of accessories and other things, some are valid like a
second rack and a seperate pan, some aren't...

worth it if you are cooking for just one or two, i might have opted for a
countertop convection toaster oven to avoid lifting the dome off but mine
was a gift so i am well pleased and glad to have it.

Lee
"W. Baker" > wrote in message
...
> Cheri > wrote:
> : "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
> : ...
> : >i was only able to read part o f the description but if its not the
> same
> : >thing its close and probably made by the same folks... mine has a
> plastic
> : >base with an insert pan that must be there, you can cook on the bpttom
> pan,
> : >on the two racks which give four heigths depending on how you position
> : >them, a smaller pan and an extender ring. there are several other
> : >accessories but since this was a gift i am not sure what all of those
> : >are... the dome and heating element come apart and the extender ring
> can be
> : >added to the dome to allow for larger turkey or a pan, Lee
>
> : It's a NuWave. I love mine and use it just about every day.
>
> : Cheri
>
> Are these those oven things they sho on infomercials wit amiddle
> aged-older pair selling?
>
> Wendy

ours hasn't cracked yet, i haven't asked dh about yellowing, but i have
noticed some minor warping of the dome and we use ours very often, not every
day but close to it, i will ask the dh to keep an eye out for the
cracking... one thing that may have prevented this is that dh sets the dome
and heating element off to the sid e and we only remove it when its cooled
and i am cleaning it to put it away, Lee
"Cheri" > wrote in message
...
> "W. Baker" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Cheri > wrote:
>> : "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
>> : ...
>> : >i was only able to read part o f the description but if its not the
>> same
>> : >thing its close and probably made by the same folks... mine has a
>> plastic
>> : >base with an insert pan that must be there, you can cook on the bpttom
>> pan,
>> : >on the two racks which give four heigths depending on how you position
>> : >them, a smaller pan and an extender ring. there are several other
>> : >accessories but since this was a gift i am not sure what all of those
>> : >are... the dome and heating element come apart and the extender ring
>> can be
>> : >added to the dome to allow for larger turkey or a pan, Lee
>>
>> : It's a NuWave. I love mine and use it just about every day.
>>
>> : Cheri
>>
>> Are these those oven things they sho on infomercials wit amiddle
>> aged-older pair selling?
>>
>> Wendy
>
> I don't know. Here is what they look like. Now I have bought 5 total as
> gifts for kids etc., but I do have a complaint that seems to be common,
> and that is that the plastic domes crack close to the removeable top, not
> all the way through and doesn't affect the cooking, but definite cracks.
> Since these ovens are more expensive than microwaves, they should be
> better constructed of better materials than that. Also the plastic dome
> yellows over time.
>
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