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Barbecue (alt.food.barbecue) Discuss barbecue and grilling--southern style "low and slow" smoking of ribs, shoulders and briskets, as well as direct heat grilling of everything from burgers to salmon to vegetables. |
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I just bought (stole?) a Char Griller Super Pro for $59.98 (with card) at my
hometown Kroger. They had two, should have bought them both. If I remember, the stack is in the door. What did anybody do to lower the exhaust? Thanks, Mike Garrard |
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Michael Garrard wrote:
> I just bought (stole?) a Char Griller Super Pro for $59.98 (with card) at my > hometown Kroger. They had two, should have bought them both. > > If I remember, the stack is in the door. What did anybody do to lower the > exhaust? > > Thanks, > Mike Garrard Wow- great price- Congratulations!! Be sure to get the SFB- I have the Char Griller SP w/ SFB, and I love it. I use it w/ and w/o the SFB, but prefer using the SFB. Simply buy some chimney flashing- I used the 10" width. Cut a piece about 12-15 " long, roll it up a little smaller in diameter than the smokestack, and put in inside the stack- from the inside, w/ the hood up, until you have the extended length you need! With this method, you can raise the extension, if needed, to make room for food on the grates! If you do get the SFB, I recommend adding a steel baffle between the main body and the SFB. My neighbor made one for mine that hangs on the inside of the main body, over the side next to the SFB. That way, I can remove it to make adjustments to it, and to clean the main body. Good luck, Jim |
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oups.com... > > ..snip..snip > If you do get the SFB, I recommend adding a steel baffle between the > main body and the SFB. My neighbor made one for mine that hangs on the > inside of the main body, over the side next to the SFB. That way, I can > remove it to make adjustments to it, and to clean the main body. > Hey Jim - Quick question.... I'm using the CharGriller with the SFB and have been pretty pleased with it. I've added the chimney extension but I'm curious about the baffle. Are you using the baffle to deflect direct heat? I've had some problems with that on mine. I've inverted the fire pan in the main chamber, which helped some but not enough. I'd appreciate any details on your baffle - what's it made of, how did you hang it, etc. I'm not a metal worker, but I'd like to jury-rig something. Thanks, Bob |
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"BigBob" > wrote in message
om... > > wrote in message > oups.com... >> >> ..snip..snip >> If you do get the SFB, I recommend adding a steel baffle between the >> main body and the SFB. My neighbor made one for mine that hangs on the >> inside of the main body, over the side next to the SFB. That way, I can >> remove it to make adjustments to it, and to clean the main body. >> > > Hey Jim - Quick question.... I'm using the CharGriller with the SFB and > have been pretty pleased with it. I've added the chimney extension but I'm > curious about the baffle. Are you using the baffle to deflect direct heat? > I've had some problems with that on mine. I've inverted the fire pan in > the main chamber, which helped some but not enough. I'd appreciate any > details on your baffle - what's it made of, how did you hang it, etc. I'm > not a metal worker, but I'd like to jury-rig something. Thanks, > Bob > I have the Char-Broil Silver Smoker, which is similar to what you have. If you would like, I can post pics of the baffle modification on abf. Let me know. -- Al Reid |
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BigBob wrote:
> > wrote in message > oups.com... > > > > ..snip..snip > > If you do get the SFB, I recommend adding a steel baffle between the > > main body and the SFB. My neighbor made one for mine that hangs on the > > inside of the main body, over the side next to the SFB. That way, I can > > remove it to make adjustments to it, and to clean the main body. > > > > Hey Jim - Quick question.... I'm using the CharGriller with the SFB and have > been pretty pleased with it. I've added the chimney extension but I'm > curious about the baffle. Are you using the baffle to deflect direct heat? > I've had some problems with that on mine. I've inverted the fire pan in the > main chamber, which helped some but not enough. I'd appreciate any details > on your baffle - what's it made of, how did you hang it, etc. I'm not a > metal worker, but I'd like to jury-rig something. Thanks, > Bob Hey Bob- Hopefully I can explain the baffle to you in a way that makes sense! I'm not too "mechanically" or otherwise inclined, which is why my neighbor made the baffle for me. Thankfully, he has every tool imaginable, and can make just about anything out of just about anything! I bought a piece of steel- a little bigger than the inside of the main body- I think it was 22 guage, and about 18"x12" at Lowes. You want it thin enough so that it can be bent in a vice- with a hammer, or even by hand. My neighbor- we'll call him Dave- since that's his name, measured the right side of the inside of the main body- hood opened. He then cut out a piece from the steel that was shaped just like the inside righthand side of the body- with about a 1/4"-1/2" gap around the curved part. It matches exactly with the top, and the slight gap is on the sides and bottom, or the curved part of the main body. Dave then cut 2 small strips, both towards the front and the back, along the curved part, about 1/2" wide and 1" long, and bent them towards the right side, (the SFB) so that they would push the baffle slightly away from the opening, allowing heat in, but deflecting it, in order to avoid direct heat. He cut two strips from the leftover steel, app 1&1/2" wide and 2-3" long, and riveted them on the top of the baffle, app 2" from the front and again 2" from the back, and formed these to act as "hangers". I hang the baffle from the top of the main body, inside the main body, along the righthand side, in front of the opening between the main body and the SFB. I drilled a few holes in the baffle, as the temp was not getting quite hot enough. This also makes it easy to remove the baffle to clean the main body! Unfortunately, I have no way to post pictures of the baffle. I'd advise you to check out the pictures Al Reid posted, as his baffle may be even better than mine. However, mine is definetely effective, and I like the fact that it is easily removable for cleaning, etc. Hope this helps, Jim |
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"Al Reid" > wrote in message
news:hzqPe.1672$rA2.1206@trndny02... > > I have the Char-Broil Silver Smoker, which is similar to what you have. > If you would like, I can post pics of the baffle modification on abf. > > Let me know. > > -- > Al Reid Yeah Al, that'd be great. Where can I see the photos? |
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"BigBob" > wrote in message om...
> "Al Reid" > wrote in message > news:hzqPe.1672$rA2.1206@trndny02... > > > > I have the Char-Broil Silver Smoker, which is similar to what you have. > > If you would like, I can post pics of the baffle modification on abf. > > > > Let me know. > > > > -- > > Al Reid > > Yeah Al, that'd be great. Where can I see the photos? > > I'll either post a link or put them on alt.binaries.food. I'll reply back when I get home and have a chance to do it. -- Al Reid |
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"BigBob" > wrote in message
om... > "Al Reid" > wrote in message > news:hzqPe.1672$rA2.1206@trndny02... >> >> I have the Char-Broil Silver Smoker, which is similar to what you have. >> If you would like, I can post pics of the baffle modification on abf. >> >> Let me know. >> >> -- >> Al Reid > > Yeah Al, that'd be great. Where can I see the photos? > BigBob, Here are links to three photos of the modifications. 1.) http://bbq.reid-home.com/chimney.jpg - shows a piece of aluminum flashing that has been rolled up and inserted into the chimney to extend it to grate level. 2) http://bbq.reid-home.com/baffle.jpg - shows the piece of aluminum flashing that was cut, bent and attached over the opening between the firebox and the cooking chamber. It is attached using two of the bolts that attach the firebox to the cooking chamber. 3) http://bbq.reid-home.com/brick.jpg - shows the brick that is layed along the bottom of the cooking chamber, along with the other two mods. The brick provides a heat sink that resists rapid temperature changes. I am quite happy with the cooker, after having made the mods. -- Al Reid |
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"Al Reid" > wrote in message
news:5zKPe.23$Aw1.11@trndny02... > "BigBob" > wrote in message > om... >> "Al Reid" > wrote in message >> news:hzqPe.1672$rA2.1206@trndny02... >>> >>> I have the Char-Broil Silver Smoker, which is similar to what you have. >>> If you would like, I can post pics of the baffle modification on abf. >>> >>> Let me know. >>> >>> -- >>> Al Reid >> >> Yeah Al, that'd be great. Where can I see the photos? >> > > BigBob, > > Here are links to three photos of the modifications. > > 1.) http://bbq.reid-home.com/chimney.jpg - shows a piece of aluminum > flashing that has been rolled up and inserted into the chimney to extend > it to grate level. > > 2) http://bbq.reid-home.com/baffle.jpg - shows the piece of aluminum > flashing that was cut, bent and attached over the opening between the > firebox and the cooking chamber. It is attached using two of the bolts > that attach the firebox to the cooking chamber. > > 3) http://bbq.reid-home.com/brick.jpg - shows the brick that is layed > along the bottom of the cooking chamber, along with the other two mods. > The brick provides a heat sink that resists rapid temperature changes. > > I am quite happy with the cooker, after having made the mods. > > -- > > Al Reid Thanks Al, I appreciate the photos. I've already extended my chimney, but not the other two mods. Did you use the same flashing material for the baffle, or is it heavier gauge. It looks like pretty stiff stuff. Thanks again. |
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"BigBob" > wrote in message
om... >> BigBob, >> >> Here are links to three photos of the modifications. >> >> 1.) http://bbq.reid-home.com/chimney.jpg - shows a piece of aluminum >> flashing that has been rolled up and inserted into the chimney to extend >> it to grate level. >> >> 2) http://bbq.reid-home.com/baffle.jpg - shows the piece of aluminum >> flashing that was cut, bent and attached over the opening between the >> firebox and the cooking chamber. It is attached using two of the bolts >> that attach the firebox to the cooking chamber. >> >> 3) http://bbq.reid-home.com/brick.jpg - shows the brick that is layed >> along the bottom of the cooking chamber, along with the other two mods. >> The brick provides a heat sink that resists rapid temperature changes. >> >> I am quite happy with the cooker, after having made the mods. >> >> -- >> >> Al Reid > > Thanks Al, I appreciate the photos. I've already extended my chimney, but > not the other two mods. Did you use the same flashing material for the > baffle, or is it heavier gauge. It looks like pretty stiff stuff. Thanks > again. I used the same stuff. I really don't know what gauge or thickness since it was just something I found laying around in the shed (left by the previous owner). It was certainly thin enough to roll for the chimney mod. -- Al Reid |
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![]() "Al Reid" > wrote in message news:5zKPe.23$Aw1.11@trndny02... > "BigBob" > wrote in message > om... > > "Al Reid" > wrote in message > > news:hzqPe.1672$rA2.1206@trndny02... > >> > >> I have the Char-Broil Silver Smoker, which is similar to what you have. > >> If you would like, I can post pics of the baffle modification on abf. > >> > >> Let me know. > >> > >> -- > >> Al Reid > > > > Yeah Al, that'd be great. Where can I see the photos? > > > > BigBob, > > Here are links to three photos of the modifications. > > 1.) http://bbq.reid-home.com/chimney.jpg - shows a piece of aluminum > flashing that has been rolled up and inserted into the chimney to extend it > to grate level. > > 2) http://bbq.reid-home.com/baffle.jpg - shows the piece of aluminum > flashing that was cut, bent and attached over the opening between the > firebox and the cooking chamber. It is attached using two of the bolts that > attach the firebox to the cooking chamber. > > 3) http://bbq.reid-home.com/brick.jpg - shows the brick that is layed along > the bottom of the cooking chamber, along with the other two mods. The brick > provides a heat sink that resists rapid temperature changes. > > I am quite happy with the cooker, after having made the mods. > > -- > > Al Reid Al, I understand the thinking behind the baffle and the bricks, but what does lowering the chimney to grate level do? Joe |
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"Duwop" > wrote in message
... > "Joe Pak" > wrote in message > ... >> > <Snipped for readability> > >> Al, I understand the thinking behind the baffle and the bricks, but what >> does lowering the chimney to grate level do? >> > > Heat rises, smoke rises with the heat, both escape from a chimney placed > high above the meat. You could raise the meat I suppose, but lowering the > chimney is easier. It brings the heat and smoke down to the cooking area. > There's even some higher end equipment with designs meant to circulate > the > heat and smoke. > > > Many purpose built cookers have their exhaust vents /chimney placed > anywhere > from just below to just above the cooking grates. > What Duwop said! -- Al Reid |
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"Joe Pak" > wrote in message
... > <Snipped for readability> > Al, I understand the thinking behind the baffle and the bricks, but what > does lowering the chimney to grate level do? > Heat rises, smoke rises with the heat, both escape from a chimney placed high above the meat. You could raise the meat I suppose, but lowering the chimney is easier. It brings the heat and smoke down to the cooking area. There's even some higher end equipment with designs meant to circulate the heat and smoke. Many purpose built cookers have their exhaust vents /chimney placed anywhere from just below to just above the cooking grates. |
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![]() "Al Reid" > wrote in message news:Mm_Pe.1191$Re1.737@trndny04... > "Duwop" > wrote in message > ... > > "Joe Pak" > wrote in message > > ... > >> > > <Snipped for readability> > > > >> Al, I understand the thinking behind the baffle and the bricks, but what > >> does lowering the chimney to grate level do? > >> > > > > Heat rises, smoke rises with the heat, both escape from a chimney placed > > high above the meat. You could raise the meat I suppose, but lowering the > > chimney is easier. It brings the heat and smoke down to the cooking area. > > There's even some higher end equipment with designs meant to circulate > > the > > heat and smoke. > > > > > > Many purpose built cookers have their exhaust vents /chimney placed > > anywhere > > from just below to just above the cooking grates. > > > > What Duwop said! > > -- > Al Reid Makes sense. Thanks guys! Joe |
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Joe Pak wrote:
"I understand the thinking behind the baffle and the bricks, but what does lowering the chimney to grate level do?" In my opinion, nothing good. Unless you like creosote, bitterness, and oversmoked food. I used to have my chimney down to grate level on my smoker, but pulled the extension off. I think improving the draft through the pit helps improve the end result with food flavor. In my beginning days, I smoked the heck out of everything, thinking that it made for good BBQ. Now, I've discovered that good BBQ means a proper balance of smoke flavor to meat/spice flavor. You'll find in many championships, the number one or two complaint judges have with BBQ is "oversmoked flavor." Pulling the chimney down to grate level does two things: Holds the smoke in the chamber longer at a lower level, and helps hold heat. If you're bricking up your pit bottom, the heat retention problem is solved. Just my two cents... (worth four cents in this housing market) |
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"Al Reid" > wrote in message
news:FmNPe.51$DV.27@trndny07... >> >> Thanks Al, I appreciate the photos. I've already extended my chimney, but >> not the other two mods. Did you use the same flashing material for the >> baffle, or is it heavier gauge. It looks like pretty stiff stuff. Thanks >> again. > > I used the same stuff. I really don't know what gauge or thickness since > it was just something I found laying around in the shed (left by the > previous owner). It was certainly thin enough to roll for the chimney > mod. > Sounds good to me. I appreciate you sharing the pics. If the rain ever stops, looks like I've got some work to do! |
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"Jon Judson" > wrote in message
news:Om%Pe.129$Aw1.64@trndny02... > Joe Pak wrote: > > "I understand the thinking behind the baffle and the bricks, but what does > lowering the chimney to grate level do?" > > In my opinion, nothing good. Unless you like creosote, bitterness, and > oversmoked food. > > I used to have my chimney down to grate level on my smoker, but pulled the > extension off. I think improving the draft through the pit helps improve > the end result with food flavor. In my beginning days, I smoked the heck > out of everything, thinking that it made for good BBQ. Now, I've > discovered that good BBQ means a proper balance of smoke flavor to > meat/spice flavor. You'll find in many championships, the number one or > two complaint judges have with BBQ is "oversmoked flavor." Pulling the > chimney down to grate level does two things: Holds the smoke in the > chamber longer at a lower level, and helps hold heat. If you're bricking > up your pit bottom, the heat retention problem is solved. > > Just my two cents... (worth four cents in this housing market) > The only thing I can add is that I did a test before and after and found that the temperature along the length of the grate was more constant with the mod that without it. I don't have any exact figures, but the temperature at the chimney end was about 20 deg higher with the mod than without it. But, I also did the test before making any of the mods. Also, I leace the chimney damper wide open while smoking and control the temp using only the firebox damper. I like my results but YMMV. -- Al Reid |
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