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Rebel chef Anthony Bourdain tells it like it is, with a few reservations
By Robin Mather Jenkins Tribune staff reporter June 7, 2006 Anthony Bourdain wanted a classic Chicago dog. Bourdain visited Chicago last week to promote "The Nasty Bits: Collected Varietal Cuts, Useable Trim, Scraps and Bones" (Bloomsbury, $24.95), the newest of his eight in print. When a guy like Bourdain--not just a prolific author but also star of the lauded series "No Reservations" on the Travel Channel--says he wants a hot dog, people jump. At least this person did. Not that Bourdain was demanding. Though he prides himself on a reputation for snideness, we found Bourdain completely affable as we ferried him around Chicago in search of a proper dog. Recognized over and over--"Bourdain? Love the show!" someone yelled as we drove down Milwaukee Avenue--his sincere generosity contradicted that bad-boy gestalt. For example, a man came out of a bar and walked up to the parked car. Guy: "Hey, aren't you ... ?" Bourdain: "Yeah, hey, how you doin'? Let me get this window rolled down so I can shake your hand." G: "You don't remember me, I'm Steve ... You did a great thing for my kitchen staff last year, they really appreciated it. Come back some time." B: "You know, I'm just in town for a really quick book tour--leaving tomorrow. But I will come back, the next time I'm in town. I had a great time with you guys." And you know what? Steve believed him. So, maybe, did we. Yet we saw glimpses of His Snarkiness. In many ways, one doesn't have a conversation with Bourdain as much as an audience. At least, if you happen to be a reporter, you don't. He talked, we listened. Bourdain on food and politics: Chicago's looming foie gras ban outrages Bourdain, who said the ban makes the city look like "some stupid cow town." "I called the alderman who sponsored it an idiot on the radio this morning," he said as he loped along. "Said I thought maybe his brain was riddled by spongiform." That would be the same thing that Mad Cow causes in the brains of cows. Bourdain on Emeril Lagasse, whom he has lambasted in the past, and on the celebrity chef phenomenon: "I've done a complete turnaround on Emeril," he said. "You know, I have to think: `How much love does that guy need?' It's getting kind of pathetic. But the cool thing about the celebrity chef syndrome is that a bunch of guys like Mario Batali"--Bourdain clearly adores Batali: his name kept coming up--"can get together and decide, `OK, this coming year, we're going to serve pork belly,' or something. They can really set an agenda. "Even somebody like Rachael Ray: If she gets people thinking, `Hey, I can do that,' " Bourdain said, then they're on their way to learning more about food. "The one who really gets me, though, is Sandra Lee (of the Food Network's "Semi-Homemade with Sandra Lee"). She teaches people that `squeeze cheez' and crackers really are OK." Bourdain, the classically trained chef, clearly thinks "squeeze cheez" and crackers are not, in fact, OK. Bourdain on why men become chefs: They go into the business because they want love and approval, but there's a certain performance anxiety. "If a customer comes into the kitchen and says, `That's the best chicken I ever ate,' the first thing the chef thinks is, `I don't think you're qualified to judge that.' " Actually, Bourdain says, a lot of chefs are very shy, not very articulate; all are essentially softies. "A lot are dyslexic," Bourdain says. "The proportion is like, 40 percent, I read, and I've had chefs tell me that `Kitchen Confidential' (the book that made him famous) was the first book they'd read all the way through since school." Once a heroin addict, Bourdain still has the junkie's build--thin almost to emaciation--that gives him guilt-free hot dog indulgences. He's hungry for some prole food. Unfortunately, the first hot dog joint proffered a Chicago dog sans pickle spear or tomatoes. The second suffered from "a lack of structural integrity," as the amused Bourdain put it, watching the contents of ours spill out of its mushy steamed bun. He'll keep doing "No Reservations" as long as the Travel Channel will have him, he said. Judging from the frequent recognition he gets--and the pleasure he takes in it--we're guessing that'll be a long time hence. http://www.chicagotribune.com/featur...ck=1&cset=true |
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![]() Ubiquitous wrote: > Anthony Bourdain wanted a classic Chicago dog. > > Bourdain visited Chicago last week to promote "The Nasty Bits: Collected > Varietal Cuts, Useable Trim, Scraps and Bones" (Bloomsbury, $24.95), the > newest of his eight in print. When a guy like Bourdain--not just a prolific > author but also star of the lauded series "No Reservations" on the Travel > Channel--says he wants a hot dog, people jump. DAMN, bad timing on my part! I'm in Chicago this week for work, and I would have stood in line to get a chance to meet him and get my book signed. He's a seriously good writer. Hope he swings through D.C. on his book tour. And don't you love how he singled out our favorite SL as the worst blight on Food TV?! The man has wisdom. Sandy |
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"Ubiquitous" > writes:
>In many ways, one doesn't have a conversation with Bourdain as much as an >audience. At least, if you happen to be a reporter, you don't. He talked, we >listened. Surprise, surprise. I was really looking forward to his show "No Reservations" and watched the first several eagerly. But it didn't take long to get tired of his attitude towards some more colorful locals -- he's open-minded about the food but not so much about the people -- and his long-winded monologues about how meaningful everything is just got old and pretentious. Okay, you've got a great job, people pay you to go to exotic locales. We know. >Bourdain on food and politics: Chicago's looming foie gras ban outrages >Bourdain, who said the ban makes the city look like "some stupid cow town." And he's such a diplomat. Let's see... there's, what, maybe a couple other cities he can go to where he can get fois gras? I think we have cities here in America. I'll have to look it up to be sure, but yeah, I think I've heard of a few. They probably serve fois gras. >"I've done a complete turnaround on Emeril," he said. "You know, I have to >think: `How much love does that guy need?' It's getting kind of pathetic. Holy shit. Uh, Bourdain has 8 books, two shows, specials.... how much love does HE need? ****ing hypocrite. >Bourdain on why men become chefs: So why do women become chefs, Tony? Jackass. >He's hungry for some prole food. Again: Jackass. Stacia |
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"Ubiquitous" > quoted: > Rebel chef Anthony Bourdain tells it like it is, with a few reservations > By Robin Mather Jenkins > Tribune staff reporter Rebel chef? Is there any phrase that _more_ nweeds to be spoken like Gene Hackman in "Superman" saying "Otisburg?" -- William December Starr > |
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Hopefully he has improved as a writer. His first book was essentially
one chapter: repeated over. and over. wrote: > > DAMN, bad timing on my part! I'm in Chicago this week for work, and I > would have stood in line to get a chance to meet him and get my book > signed. He's a seriously good writer. Hope he swings through D.C. on > his book tour. > And don't you love how he singled out our favorite SL as the worst > blight on Food TV?! The man has wisdom. > > Sandy > |
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![]() Dennis wrote: > Hopefully he has improved as a writer. His first book was essentially > one chapter: repeated over. and over. I think Bourdain's Cook's Tour book is great. |
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![]() Ubiquitous wrote: > wrote: > > >DAMN, bad timing on my part! I'm in Chicago this week for work, and I > >would have stood in line to get a chance to meet him and get my book > >signed. He's a seriously good writer. Hope he swings through D.C. on > >his book tour. > > I enjoy his shows, but a full hour of him can be too much sometimes. > > >And don't you love how he singled out our favorite SL as the worst > >blight on Food TV?! The man has wisdom. > > Oh yes, I laughed and laughed. He's taken jabs at SL before -- without naming her, but it was perfectly clear who he was talking about. I like Bourdain's Cook's Tour and No Reservations Shows. Well, I like the No Reservations Shows where he goes somewhere interesting. The ones where he went to Vegas or NJ did not prove worth my while. |
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What impresses me about Bourdain is how he can eat all that street food
in all those foreign countries without getting the runs. He must have a cast-iron stomach. Irulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time. |
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![]() "Irulan" > wrote in message . .. > What impresses me about Bourdain is how he can eat all that street food > in all those foreign countries without getting the runs. He must have a > cast-iron stomach. Actually, when I'm in southeast Asia, I trust the street food more than food in restaurants. On the street, I can actually SEE what's being cooked and how it is handled. In a restaurant, I have to trust the cooks who are out of sight in a kitchen that is surely not as "inspected" as those in the U.S. I have never gotten sick from street food in Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, or Vietnam. -- --Rich |
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On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:00:00 -0400, Ubiquitous >
wrote: wrote: > >>What impresses me about Bourdain is how he can eat all that street food >>in all those foreign countries without getting the runs. He must have a >>cast-iron stomach. > >Do you pay attention to what he washes it all down with? :-) > Yeah, when you are taking in that much alcohol it is unlikely that anything can survive. Still, it's impressive that he eats all of that stuff. Some of it looks quite good, but I'm not ready to eat fried bugs or stewed porcupine. |
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![]() shawn wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:00:00 -0400, Ubiquitous > > wrote: > > wrote: > > > >>What impresses me about Bourdain is how he can eat all that street food > >>in all those foreign countries without getting the runs. He must have a > >>cast-iron stomach. > > > >Do you pay attention to what he washes it all down with? :-) > > > > Yeah, when you are taking in that much alcohol it is unlikely that > anything can survive. Still, it's impressive that he eats all of that > stuff. Some of it looks quite good, but I'm not ready to eat fried > bugs or stewed porcupine. Even Bourdain didn't like the porcupine -- which says something I suppose. Actually, I'm sure I'd like most of what Bourdain eats when he's in, say, Vietnam or Thailand. And I'd love to try some of that Vietnamese (so-called) moonshine. Not twenty shots of it, though. |
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Stacia > wrote:
>>"I've done a complete turnaround on Emeril," he said. "You know, I have to >>think: `How much love does that guy need?' It's getting kind of pathetic. > > Holy shit. Uh, Bourdain has 8 books, two shows, specials.... how much >love does HE need? ****ing hypocrite. He's about 1% of the imperial presence Emeril has become. Emeril is on way too many products. He's the Hello Kitty of America. >>Bourdain on why men become chefs: > > So why do women become chefs, Tony? Jackass. Because girls cook. >>He's hungry for some prole food. > > Again: Jackass. That's the reporter, not Bourdain. And if Bourdain wanted he could eat foie gras and pig face every meal for the rest of his life. So he probably has to get up a yen for a dog. --Blair |
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:57:32 GMT, Blair P. Houghton > wrote:
>Stacia > wrote: >>>"I've done a complete turnaround on Emeril," he said. "You know, I have to >>>think: `How much love does that guy need?' It's getting kind of pathetic. >> >> Holy shit. Uh, Bourdain has 8 books, two shows, specials.... how much >>love does HE need? ****ing hypocrite. > >He's about 1% of the imperial presence Emeril has become. > >Emeril is on way too many products. > >He's the Hello Kitty of America. Not until he gets his own vibrator product. >>>Bourdain on why men become chefs: >> >> So why do women become chefs, Tony? Jackass. > >Because girls cook. How about because they like it. > >>>He's hungry for some prole food. >> >> Again: Jackass. > >That's the reporter, not Bourdain. And if Bourdain wanted >he could eat foie gras and pig face every meal for the rest >of his life. So he probably has to get up a yen for a dog. Bourdain has shown a willingness to go for just about anything from the fanciest of foods to the most common. |
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Blair P. Houghton > wrote in
: >>>"I've done a complete turnaround on Emeril," he said. "You know, I >>>have to think: `How much love does that guy need?' It's getting kind >>>of pathetic. He really said that? That's in poor taste (no pun intended). Bourdain has the enviable position of travelling around the world and doing a more "provocative" show than Emeril ever could (stuck in that TV studio). That AND he's not on Food TV Network! Imho, Andy |
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> wrote in message > >> >
> > Have you seen the sitcom based on his first book? It's pretty funny. I > downloaded all 13 episodes and watched the straight through. > > http://www.tv.com/kitchen-confidenti...8/summary.html Thanks for the site. Can't wait to download. Just purchased The Nasty Bits. d |
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![]() wrote: > On 28 Jun 2006 18:36:00 -0700, wrote: > > > > wrote: > >> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:00:00 -0400, Ubiquitous > wrote: > >> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >>What impresses me about Bourdain is how he can eat all that street food > >> >>in all those foreign countries without getting the runs. He must have a > >> >>cast-iron stomach. > >> > > >> >Do you pay attention to what he washes it all down with? :-) > >> > > >> LOL! > >> He certainly isn't on the wagon now. He's a drunk, but he has the fame and money > >> to support the behavior. > > > >AFAIK, he was never on the wagon. > > Have you seen the sitcom based on his first book? It's pretty funny. I > downloaded all 13 episodes and watched the straight through. > > http://www.tv.com/kitchen-confidenti...8/summary.html Thanks for the link. I haven't seen any of it, although I've read the book. |
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On 2006-06-29, Andy <q> wrote:
> Blair P. Houghton > wrote in > : > >>>>"I've done a complete turnaround on Emeril," he said. "You know, I >>>>have to think: `How much love does that guy need?' It's getting kind >>>>of pathetic. > > He really said that? Like AB is anyone to criticize. A drunken ex-junkie who's never distinguished himself by actually cooking, but by gossiping about the slimey underbelly of commercial cooking. It might be entertaining if he was even remotely funny, but he's not. They should title his next endeavor, No Class Ass! nb |
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notbob > wrote in
: > On 2006-06-29, Andy <q> wrote: >> Blair P. Houghton > wrote in >> : >> >>>>>"I've done a complete turnaround on Emeril," he said. "You know, I >>>>>have to think: `How much love does that guy need?' It's getting kind >>>>>of pathetic. >> >> He really said that? > > Like AB is anyone to criticize. A drunken ex-junkie who's never > distinguished himself by actually cooking, but by gossiping about the > slimey underbelly of commercial cooking. It might be entertaining if > he was even remotely funny, but he's not. They should title his next > endeavor, No Class Ass! > > nb nb, So what? The guy is only on once a week. We have RR and Emeril several times a day over at Food TV Network. Pick yer poison!!! And hey, my brain doesn't have to commit idiotic cooking details to memory! YMMV, Andy |
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![]() Andy wrote: > notbob > wrote in > : > > > On 2006-06-29, Andy <q> wrote: > >> Blair P. Houghton > wrote in > >> : > >> > >>>>>"I've done a complete turnaround on Emeril," he said. "You know, I > >>>>>have to think: `How much love does that guy need?' It's getting kind > >>>>>of pathetic. > >> > >> He really said that? > > > > Like AB is anyone to criticize. A drunken ex-junkie who's never > > distinguished himself by actually cooking, but by gossiping about the > > slimey underbelly of commercial cooking. It might be entertaining if > > he was even remotely funny, but he's not. They should title his next > > endeavor, No Class Ass! > > > > nb > > > nb, > > So what? The guy is only on once a week. We have RR and Emeril several > times a day over at Food TV Network. Pick yer poison!!! One "No Reservations" is worth a million "$40 a Day" episodes. Bourdain is genuinely entertaining, IMO -- and when he dislikes the taste of something, he says so. Ray reacts the same way (with feigned bliss) to everything she puts in her damned mouth. |
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![]() Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote: > > oups.com: > > > > > Andy wrote: > >> notbob > wrote in > >> : > >> > >> > On 2006-06-29, Andy <q> wrote: > >> >> Blair P. Houghton > wrote in > >> >> : > >> >> > >> >>>>>"I've done a complete turnaround on Emeril," he said. "You know, > >> >>>>>I have to think: `How much love does that guy need?' It's > >> >>>>>getting kind of pathetic. > >> >> > >> >> He really said that? > >> > > >> > Like AB is anyone to criticize. A drunken ex-junkie who's never > >> > distinguished himself by actually cooking, but by gossiping about > >> > the slimey underbelly of commercial cooking. It might be > >> > entertaining if he was even remotely funny, but he's not. They > >> > should title his next endeavor, No Class Ass! > >> > > >> > nb > >> > >> > >> nb, > >> > >> So what? The guy is only on once a week. We have RR and Emeril > >> several times a day over at Food TV Network. Pick yer poison!!! > > > > One "No Reservations" is worth a million "$40 a Day" episodes. > > Bourdain is genuinely entertaining, IMO -- and when he dislikes the > > taste of something, he says so. Ray reacts the same way (with feigned > > bliss) to everything she puts in her damned mouth. > > "This is soooo Good" comes to mind with RR and the phrase "cool" also is > right up there. What other dumb phrases can you think of? The obvious one, of course, is "Yum-O!" Then there's that annoying Pillsbury Doughboy giggle. Then there's the rolling of the eyes. Et cetera. |
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![]() > wrote > Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote: >> "This is soooo Good" comes to mind with RR and the phrase "cool" also is >> right up there. What other dumb phrases can you think of? > > The obvious one, of course, is "Yum-O!" Then there's that annoying > Pillsbury Doughboy giggle. Then there's the rolling of the eyes. Et > cetera. Don't forget DEEEE lish! nancy |
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![]() Nancy Young wrote: > > wrote > > > Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote: > > >> "This is soooo Good" comes to mind with RR and the phrase "cool" also is > >> right up there. What other dumb phrases can you think of? > > > > The obvious one, of course, is "Yum-O!" Then there's that annoying > > Pillsbury Doughboy giggle. Then there's the rolling of the eyes. Et > > cetera. > > Don't forget DEEEE lish! Yes indeed. And here's a relatively subtle one: On "$40 a Day," RR orders a lot of sandwiches. But she doesn't call them sandwiches; she drops the "nd" out and calls them "sawiches." It's annoying. |
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![]() > wrote in message oups.com... > > Nancy Young wrote: > > > wrote > > > > > Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote: > > > > >> "This is soooo Good" comes to mind with RR and the phrase "cool" also is > > >> right up there. What other dumb phrases can you think of? > > > > > > The obvious one, of course, is "Yum-O!" Then there's that annoying > > > Pillsbury Doughboy giggle. Then there's the rolling of the eyes. Et > > > cetera. > > > > Don't forget DEEEE lish! > > Yes indeed. And here's a relatively subtle one: On "$40 a Day," RR > orders a lot of sandwiches. But she doesn't call them sandwiches; she > drops the "nd" out and calls them "sawiches." It's annoying. > To me the most annoying pronunciation of hers is PEE-CAN for pecan... should be puh-kon! |
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![]() > wrote in message oups.com... > > Nancy Young wrote: >> > wrote >> >> > Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote: >> >> >> "This is soooo Good" comes to mind with RR and the phrase "cool" also >> >> is >> >> right up there. What other dumb phrases can you think of? >> > >> > The obvious one, of course, is "Yum-O!" Then there's that annoying >> > Pillsbury Doughboy giggle. Then there's the rolling of the eyes. Et >> > cetera. >> >> Don't forget DEEEE lish! > > Yes indeed. And here's a relatively subtle one: On "$40 a Day," RR > orders a lot of sandwiches. But she doesn't call them sandwiches; she > drops the "nd" out and calls them "sawiches." It's annoying. > She is saying "samwiches". That has been around longer then Rachel. Guess you don't get around much |
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![]() "Chris Marksberry" > wrote in message ... > > > wrote in message > oups.com... >> >> Nancy Young wrote: >> > > wrote >> > >> > > Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote: >> > >> > >> "This is soooo Good" comes to mind with RR and the phrase "cool" >> > >> also > is >> > >> right up there. What other dumb phrases can you think of? >> > > >> > > The obvious one, of course, is "Yum-O!" Then there's that annoying >> > > Pillsbury Doughboy giggle. Then there's the rolling of the eyes. Et >> > > cetera. >> > >> > Don't forget DEEEE lish! >> >> Yes indeed. And here's a relatively subtle one: On "$40 a Day," RR >> orders a lot of sandwiches. But she doesn't call them sandwiches; she >> drops the "nd" out and calls them "sawiches." It's annoying. >> > > To me the most annoying pronunciation of hers is PEE-CAN for pecan... > should be puh-kon! > >Paula Deen calls them pee-cans too, I think it depends on what region of >the country you are in |
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![]() "Jake" > wrote in message ... > >> > > She is saying "samwiches". That has been around longer then Rachel. > Guess you don't get around much I thought that was "samwidges." ;o) Rich |
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> >> Have you seen the sitcom based on his first book? It's pretty funny. I > >> downloaded all 13 episodes and watched the straight through. > >> > >> http://www.tv.com/kitchen-confidenti...8/summary.html > > > >Thanks for the site. Can't wait to download. Just purchased The Nasty Bits. > >d > > > Your Welcome > I downloaded them from the alt.binaries.tv news group. > All the episodes from the first season. > I wish we could get the station that carries them. > > I'm heading out the door to pick up The Nasty Bits and two other of his books I > ordered last week. Looking forward to some great summer reading. ![]() And what station would that be, please? Just about to download. Bookmarked cuz I thought things would get a little hectic, which it did 8-} Kitchen Confidential had a few areas that lagged, but overall I think you'll enjoy it. I'll probably read it again before I recycle it to someone else. Are you reading his fiction novels as well? d |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote > It always amazes me how familiar you anti-EL/RR whiners are with the > on air idiosyncrasies of these celebrities. You must spend hours > watching them. How very odd. That makes no sense. How are people to know about someone before they watch them? Maybe the first time someone says EVOOextravirginoliveoil it's not annoying, 10 shows later you realize she says it every other breath ... that's when you know the person's idiocyncrasies? And they start to become grating? I haven't watched RR for a long time, seems nothing has changed, especially with the shows being repeated for years. Every show with those same idiocyncracies. That's life. Of course I watched her enough to have a clue about her trademark comments. Doesn't take long. Heck, I stopped watching the View because of Star back when Debbie M was still on, that's a long time. I still know Star is as irritating as they come. How would I know if I hadn't seen her at some point? nancy |
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On 2006-07-01, Nancy Young > wrote:
> And they start to become grating.... You mean like this group's kvetching about EL and RR? nb |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote > On 2006-07-01, Nancy Young > wrote: >> And they start to become grating.... > > You mean like this group's kvetching about EL and RR? Precisely. How would you know if you didn't read it all the time. You answered your own question. nancy |
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On 2006-07-01, Nancy Young > wrote:
> Precisely. How would you know if you didn't read it > all the time. You answered your own question. The difference is, I don't tune in rfc looking for EL/RR snivels. But, it's constantly sprung on me against my will. Here I am reading through an rfc thread on how to truss a Slobovian anteater for wood fired roasting when some ditz interjects, "Oh, did you see Rachel Ray's episode on 30 minute Slobovian anteaters. Holy crap, it drives me crazy how she's always got the exact ingredients for Slobovian anteater on hand". nb |
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 12:37:45 -0400, "Nancy Young" >
wrote: > >"notbob" > wrote > >> It always amazes me how familiar you anti-EL/RR whiners are with the >> on air idiosyncrasies of these celebrities. You must spend hours >> watching them. How very odd. > >That makes no sense. How are people to know about someone >before they watch them? Maybe the first time someone says >EVOOextravirginoliveoil it's not annoying, 10 shows later you >realize she says it every other breath ... that's when you know the >person's idiocyncrasies? And they start to become grating? Very few people start off as horribly annoying. It takes time before things begin to bother you. >I haven't watched RR for a long time, seems nothing has changed, >especially with the shows being repeated for years. Every show >with those same idiocyncracies. That's life. That's part of the problem. I see her show when I flipping between channels and other than her weight there doesn't seem to be any difference between one show and another. At least with a show like Good Eats there's something unique about each show that isn't there with Rachel Ray's "30 minute meals." >Of course I watched her enough to have a clue about her >trademark comments. Doesn't take long. Yep. I think everyone in this thread has seen her "30 Minute Meals", "$40 a day" and even her "Tasty Travels" shows at least a few times. > |
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![]() "notbob" > wrote in message . .. > On 2006-07-01, Nancy Young > wrote: > >> Precisely. How would you know if you didn't read it >> all the time. You answered your own question. > > The difference is, I don't tune in rfc looking for EL/RR snivels. But, > it's constantly sprung on me against my will. Here I am reading > through an rfc thread on how to truss a Slobovian anteater for wood fired > roasting when some ditz interjects, "Oh, did you see Rachel Ray's > episode on 30 minute Slobovian anteaters. Holy crap, it drives me crazy > how she's always got the exact ingredients for Slobovian anteater on > hand". > > nb Fark I missed that episode |
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