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My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean type
salad.

The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I have
no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't like
lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.

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My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean type
salad.

The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I have
no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't like
lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.

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On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
> On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean
>> type salad.
>>
>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I
>> have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't
>> like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.

>
> Huh? Who is your gardener?
>
> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the salad
> you're serving?
>
> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with the
> gardening work?
>


I guess you never followed the story of the gardener. He lives in one
of the outbuildings. Need you bush trimmed?
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On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean type
> salad.
>
> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I have
> no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't like
> lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.


As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist on a bean diet
for every meal.
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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
>> On 05:24* 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>
>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean
>>> type salad.
>>>
>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
>>> craisins. I
>>> have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar
>>> doesn't
>>> like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.

>>
>> Huh?* Who is your gardener?
>>
>> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about
>> the salad
>> you're serving?
>>
>> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with
>> the
>> gardening work?
>>

>
> I guess you never followed the story of the gardener.* He lives in
> one of the outbuildings. Need you bush trimmed?


He's an expert at pruning her begonias.


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On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:59:33 +0100, Pamela >
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>On 15:10 21 Jun 2019, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
>>> On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>
>>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean
>>>> type salad.
>>>>
>>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>>>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I
>>>> have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't
>>>> like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.
>>>
>>> Huh? Who is your gardener?
>>>
>>> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the salad
>>> you're serving?
>>>
>>> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with the
>>> gardening work?
>>>

>>
>> I guess you never followed the story of the gardener. He lives in one
>> of the outbuildings.

>
>Does the gardener permanently live in the grounds but come to the main house
>for meals? That's an odd arrangement.


Are you really going to rehash all that? Just when the vultures have
fallen asleep?
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On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 07:52:53 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
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>On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean type
>> salad.
>>
>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I have
>> no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't like
>> lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.

>
>As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist on a bean diet
>for every meal.
>====


Beans aren't crap. They're very good for us. And they can be very
nice.
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On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:58:29 +0100, Pamela >
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>On 20:47 21 Jun 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:59:33 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 15:10 21 Jun 2019, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
>>>>> On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean
>>>>>> type salad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>>>>>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins.
>>>>>> I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar
>>>>>> doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? Who is your gardener?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the
>>>>> salad you're serving?
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with
>>>>> the gardening work?
>>>>
>>>> I guess you never followed the story of the gardener. He lives in one
>>>> of the outbuildings.
>>>
>>>Does the gardener permanently live in the grounds but come to the main
>>>house for meals? That's an odd arrangement.

>>
>> Are you really going to rehash all that? Just when the vultures have
>> fallen asleep?

>
>I've read posters make a passing comment about Julie's gardener but I
>assumed it was an unwarranted snide joke about some imaginary gardener.
>
>I hadn't realised there's a real gardener and that Julie really makes
>carefully prepared meals for him.
>
>What's the back story? All I know is he lives in an outbuilding.


Just that Julie has a gardener. But some emotionally starved RFC women
got very jealous when they heard that. Now they want a gardener too.
Or better yet, they want Julie's gardener.
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"Pamela" > wrote in message
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> On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean
>> type salad.
>>
>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I
>> have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't
>> like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.

>
> Huh? Who is your gardener?
>
> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the salad
> you're serving?
>
> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with the
> gardening work?


He lives here and I cook for him.



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"Pamela" > wrote in message
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> On 20:47 21 Jun 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:59:33 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 15:10 21 Jun 2019, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
>>>>> On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean
>>>>>> type salad.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>>>>>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins.
>>>>>> I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar
>>>>>> doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Huh? Who is your gardener?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the
>>>>> salad you're serving?
>>>>>
>>>>> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with
>>>>> the gardening work?
>>>>
>>>> I guess you never followed the story of the gardener. He lives in one
>>>> of the outbuildings.
>>>
>>>Does the gardener permanently live in the grounds but come to the main
>>>house for meals? That's an odd arrangement.

>>
>> Are you really going to rehash all that? Just when the vultures have
>> fallen asleep?

>
> I've read posters make a passing comment about Julie's gardener but I
> assumed it was an unwarranted snide joke about some imaginary gardener.
>
> I hadn't realised there's a real gardener and that Julie really makes
> carefully prepared meals for him.
>
> What's the back story? All I know is he lives in an outbuilding.


He lost his home in a fire. I offered him the spare room but it is really
small. He's storing some things in there but he preferred to live in what he
calls the tiny house. It's not entirely finished inside and there is no
running water so he comes in here for that. He actually comes and goes as he
pleases. We're friends. He has a GF. I love to cook so I said I would make
dinner every night. Sometimes he buys the food. Sometimes I do. I get a lot
of stuff at Costco. I don't pay him. We just sort of do things back and
forth for each other. He does more than just gardening. He's good with
handyman stuff.

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:58:29 +0100, Pamela >
> wrote:
>
>>On 20:47 21 Jun 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:59:33 +0100, Pamela >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 15:10 21 Jun 2019, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
>>>>>> On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean
>>>>>>> type salad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>>>>>>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins.
>>>>>>> I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar
>>>>>>> doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Huh? Who is your gardener?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the
>>>>>> salad you're serving?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with
>>>>>> the gardening work?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess you never followed the story of the gardener. He lives in one
>>>>> of the outbuildings.
>>>>
>>>>Does the gardener permanently live in the grounds but come to the main
>>>>house for meals? That's an odd arrangement.
>>>
>>> Are you really going to rehash all that? Just when the vultures have
>>> fallen asleep?

>>
>>I've read posters make a passing comment about Julie's gardener but I
>>assumed it was an unwarranted snide joke about some imaginary gardener.
>>
>>I hadn't realised there's a real gardener and that Julie really makes
>>carefully prepared meals for him.
>>
>>What's the back story? All I know is he lives in an outbuilding.

>
> Just that Julie has a gardener. But some emotionally starved RFC women
> got very jealous when they heard that. Now they want a gardener too.
> Or better yet, they want Julie's gardener.


I'm sure they would. He's very good looking and so is his dig!

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"Ophelia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Julie Bove" wrote in message ...
>
> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean type
> salad.
>
> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I
> have
> no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't like
> lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.
>
> =====
>
> Enjoy


It was very good. Thanks!

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> On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean type
>> salad.
>>
>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I
>> have
>> no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't like
>> lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.

>
> As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist on a bean
> diet
> for every meal.
> ====


I sure could! What's wrong with beans?

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On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:25:34 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
>"Bruce" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:58:29 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 20:47 21 Jun 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:59:33 +0100, Pamela >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 15:10 21 Jun 2019, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean
>>>>>>>> type salad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>>>>>>>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins.
>>>>>>>> I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar
>>>>>>>> doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh? Who is your gardener?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the
>>>>>>> salad you're serving?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with
>>>>>>> the gardening work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess you never followed the story of the gardener. He lives in one
>>>>>> of the outbuildings.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does the gardener permanently live in the grounds but come to the main
>>>>>house for meals? That's an odd arrangement.
>>>>
>>>> Are you really going to rehash all that? Just when the vultures have
>>>> fallen asleep?
>>>
>>>I've read posters make a passing comment about Julie's gardener but I
>>>assumed it was an unwarranted snide joke about some imaginary gardener.
>>>
>>>I hadn't realised there's a real gardener and that Julie really makes
>>>carefully prepared meals for him.
>>>
>>>What's the back story? All I know is he lives in an outbuilding.

>>
>> Just that Julie has a gardener. But some emotionally starved RFC women
>> got very jealous when they heard that. Now they want a gardener too.
>> Or better yet, they want Julie's gardener.

>
>I'm sure they would. He's very good looking and so is his dig!


LOL, I won't ask.
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"Bruce" > wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 13:25:34 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:58:29 +0100, Pamela >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On 20:47 21 Jun 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:59:33 +0100, Pamela >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 15:10 21 Jun 2019, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
>>>>>>>>> Mediterranean
>>>>>>>>> type salad.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>>>>>>>>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
>>>>>>>>> craisins.
>>>>>>>>> I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar
>>>>>>>>> doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Huh? Who is your gardener?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the
>>>>>>>> salad you're serving?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with
>>>>>>>> the gardening work?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess you never followed the story of the gardener. He lives in
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> of the outbuildings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Does the gardener permanently live in the grounds but come to the main
>>>>>>house for meals? That's an odd arrangement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you really going to rehash all that? Just when the vultures have
>>>>> fallen asleep?
>>>>
>>>>I've read posters make a passing comment about Julie's gardener but I
>>>>assumed it was an unwarranted snide joke about some imaginary gardener.
>>>>
>>>>I hadn't realised there's a real gardener and that Julie really makes
>>>>carefully prepared meals for him.
>>>>
>>>>What's the back story? All I know is he lives in an outbuilding.
>>>
>>> Just that Julie has a gardener. But some emotionally starved RFC women
>>> got very jealous when they heard that. Now they want a gardener too.
>>> Or better yet, they want Julie's gardener.

>>
>>I'm sure they would. He's very good looking and so is his dig!

>
> LOL, I won't ask.


What a typo! That should have said "dog". Zorro is smaller than my cats and
super cute!

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> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
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> > writes:
> > > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
> > > > Mediterranean type salad.
> > > >
> > > > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
> > > > tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
> > > > craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My
> > > > blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans
> > > > instead.
> > >
> > > As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist on a
> > > bean diet for every meal.
> > > ====

> >
> > it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't call it
> > crap
> >
> > I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad and add
> > pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion - assume you've got oil
> > and vinegar, maybe oregano
> >
> > I make a lentil soup about once a week
> >
> > spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make

>
> Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini, but
> don't.


I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that you have
posted from time to time?

Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home. Don's
heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended for 2 days.
The good news is his heart checked out as extremely healthy for his age
with none of the plaque (cholestrol) buildup to be expected by his age.

The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course). She said
to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy on the
veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of all meals
that have meat (seafood is meat to me).
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On 6/22/2019 9:30 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
>>
>> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> writes:
>>>> On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
>>>>> Mediterranean type salad.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>>>>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
>>>>> craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My
>>>>> blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans
>>>>> instead.
>>>>
>>>> As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist on a
>>>> bean diet for every meal.
>>>> ====
>>>
>>> it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't call it
>>> crap
>>>
>>> I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad and add
>>> pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion - assume you've got oil
>>> and vinegar, maybe oregano
>>>
>>> I make a lentil soup about once a week
>>>
>>> spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make

>>
>> Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini, but
>> don't.

>
> I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that you have
> posted from time to time?
>
> Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home. Don's
> heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended for 2 days.
> The good news is his heart checked out as extremely healthy for his age
> with none of the plaque (cholestrol) buildup to be expected by his age.
>

That's good news!

> The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course). She said
> to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy on the
> veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of all meals
> that have meat (seafood is meat to me).
>

I've always had the impression you cook/eat healthy food. Pssst, I
consider fish/seafood to be meat, too.

Jill


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jmcquown wrote:

> On 6/22/2019 9:30 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > writes:
> > > > > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
> > > > > > Mediterranean type salad.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell
> > > > > > peppers, tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans.
> > > > > > His has craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in
> > > > > > there too. My blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm
> > > > > > having kidney beans instead.
> > > > >
> > > > > As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist
> > > > > on a bean diet for every meal.
> > > > > ====
> > > >
> > > > it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't call it
> > > > crap
> > > >
> > > > I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad and
> > > > add pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion - assume
> > > > you've got oil and vinegar, maybe oregano
> > > >
> > > > I make a lentil soup about once a week
> > > >
> > > > spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make
> > >
> > > Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini, but
> > > don't.

> >
> > I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that you
> > have posted from time to time?
> >
> > Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home.
> > Don's heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended for 2
> > days. The good news is his heart checked out as extremely healthy
> > for his age with none of the plaque (cholestrol) buildup to be
> > expected by his age.
> >

> That's good news!
>
> > The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course). She
> > said to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy
> > on the veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of
> > all meals that have meat (seafood is meat to me).
> >

> I've always had the impression you cook/eat healthy food. Pssst, I
> consider fish/seafood to be meat, too.
>
> Jill


Hehe yes, good news indeed. He was at the ER with an apparent heart
attack a month ago but it was decided that was not it. They also said
it might have been a lung related infection that would feel similar so
put him on antibiotics and he felt better very soon.

This was followup as a stress test showed some mild abnormality but the
surgeon didnt find anything wrong at all. In fact, he looked to the
camera to be the heart of someone 30 years younger which lead to the
short (4-5 minutes) diet discussion.

Yup on the seafood/fish. I'm careful to caveat it after finding I
seriously offended some Catholic folks (and similar) by chuckling at
'meatless Friday' (whole salmon anyone?).

While we have junk food sometimes here, generally, we eat healthy
almost every day. The majority of what we eat is made from scratch if
you accept that canned tomato products fit in there. It isn't the
occasional order out of Dominos that 'gets ya'. It's the extra junk
added to pre-made stuff eaten every day.

When I grocery shop, I spend 35% of the time in the fresh veggies and
fruit section (plus potatoes and onions), 35% in the fresh meat and
seafood section, 10% in the canned section, 5% in the flour/baking
section, and the rest might be a pet food isle or might be low on
bandaids, or something specific like dried beans, rice, or Pepsi.

Will you see something else in our cart (might be 2)? Yes, but 80% by
volume of cart will be staples, veggies and meats. The rest might be
Pepsi, aluminium foil, coffee creamers (I supply them at work as my
part of the coffee mess).

Although a very different person from Julie, she also is a bit like me
in how she cooks in _some_ ways. She seems to start (like I do) with
what she has in fresh foods, and work on from there.

The difference is she seems to start with an idea then look for the
parts while I start with what I have and work onwards from there.
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> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
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> > writes:
> > > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
> > > > Mediterranean type salad.
> > > >
> > > > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
> > > > tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
> > > > craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My
> > > > blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans
> > > > instead.
> > >
> > > As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist on a
> > > bean diet for every meal.
> > > ====

> >
> > it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't call it
> > crap
> >
> > I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad and add
> > pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion - assume you've got oil
> > and vinegar, maybe oregano
> >
> > I make a lentil soup about once a week
> >
> > spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make

>
> Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini, but
> don't.


I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that you have
posted from time to time?

Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home. Don's
heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended for 2 days.
The good news is his heart checked out as extremely healthy for his age
with none of the plaque (cholestrol) buildup to be expected by his age.

The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course). She said
to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy on the
veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of all meals
that have meat (seafood is meat to me).

===

Good news, but I didn't know he has had heart surgery??


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On 6/22/2019 10:41 AM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 6/22/2019 9:30 AM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> writes:
>>>>>> On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
>>>>>>> Mediterranean type salad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell
>>>>>>> peppers, tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans.
>>>>>>> His has craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in
>>>>>>> there too. My blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm
>>>>>>> having kidney beans instead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist
>>>>>> on a bean diet for every meal.
>>>>>> ====
>>>>>
>>>>> it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't call it
>>>>> crap
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad and
>>>>> add pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion - assume
>>>>> you've got oil and vinegar, maybe oregano
>>>>>
>>>>> I make a lentil soup about once a week
>>>>>
>>>>> spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make
>>>>
>>>> Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini, but
>>>> don't.
>>>
>>> I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that you
>>> have posted from time to time?
>>>
>>> Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home.
>>> Don's heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended for 2
>>> days. The good news is his heart checked out as extremely healthy
>>> for his age with none of the plaque (cholestrol) buildup to be
>>> expected by his age.
>>>

>> That's good news!
>>
>>> The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course). She
>>> said to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy
>>> on the veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of
>>> all meals that have meat (seafood is meat to me).
>>>

>> I've always had the impression you cook/eat healthy food. Pssst, I
>> consider fish/seafood to be meat, too.
>>
>> Jill

>
> Hehe yes, good news indeed. He was at the ER with an apparent heart
> attack a month ago but it was decided that was not it. They also said
> it might have been a lung related infection that would feel similar so
> put him on antibiotics and he felt better very soon.
>
> This was followup as a stress test showed some mild abnormality but the
> surgeon didnt find anything wrong at all. In fact, he looked to the
> camera to be the heart of someone 30 years younger which lead to the
> short (4-5 minutes) diet discussion.
>
> Yup on the seafood/fish. I'm careful to caveat it after finding I
> seriously offended some Catholic folks (and similar) by chuckling at
> 'meatless Friday' (whole salmon anyone?).
>
> While we have junk food sometimes here, generally, we eat healthy
> almost every day. The majority of what we eat is made from scratch if
> you accept that canned tomato products fit in there. It isn't the
> occasional order out of Dominos that 'gets ya'. It's the extra junk
> added to pre-made stuff eaten every day.
>
> When I grocery shop, I spend 35% of the time in the fresh veggies and
> fruit section (plus potatoes and onions), 35% in the fresh meat and
> seafood section, 10% in the canned section, 5% in the flour/baking
> section, and the rest might be a pet food isle or might be low on
> bandaids, or something specific like dried beans, rice, or Pepsi.
>

Wow, you've got your shopping narrowed down to percentages?

I don't bake bread anymore but I hit up the grocery store bakery for
their (Bruce may chime in and say it isn't) sourdough bread. The bakery
is right next to the produce section so I immediately go to look for
veggies. Sometimes fruit, although I don't eat a great deal of fresh
fruit. It's not that I don't like fruit, I just can't be guaranteed I'd
actually eat that gorgeous plum or those beautiful berries before they
spoil.

I buy canned fruit. It stores in the pantry for a long time. Chill
before opening the can and snacking. Frozen berries are fun, too. Make
a chilled blender drink with frozen berries and sparkling water
sometime. (Alcohol not required.)

I move from the produce department, where I've bought vegetables I know
I'll use up before they spoil, to the fish/seafood department. Beyond
that is the beef, pork, chicken. I peruse.

From there I walk to the back where the milk and cheese is. Butter is
nearby.

I occasionally have to make a side-trip down an aisle to buy oil or
dried herbs/spices, peanut butter, things like that.

> Will you see something else in our cart (might be 2)? Yes, but 80% by
> volume of cart will be staples, veggies and meats. The rest might be
> Pepsi, aluminium foil, coffee creamers (I supply them at work as my
> part of the coffee mess).
>

(snippage)

There was a time when I looked at other people's shopping carts. These
days I don't care. I don't care if they look at what I buy, either.

Jill
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Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "cshenk" wrote in message
> ...
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >
> >"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> writes:
> >> > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove

> wrote: >> > > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
> >> > > Mediterranean type salad.
> >> > >
> >> > > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
> >> > > tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
> >> > > craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My
> >> > > blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans
> >> > > instead.
> >> >
> >> > As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist on a
> >> > bean diet for every meal.
> >> > ====
> > >
> >> it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't call it
> >> crap
> > >
> >> I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad and add
> >> pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion - assume you've got

> oil >> and vinegar, maybe oregano
> > >
> >> I make a lentil soup about once a week
> > >
> >> spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make

> >
> > Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini, but
> > don't.

>
> I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that you have
> posted from time to time?
>
> Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home.
> Don's heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended for 2
> days. The good news is his heart checked out as extremely healthy
> for his age with none of the plaque (cholestrol) buildup to be
> expected by his age.
>
> The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course). She
> said to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy on
> the veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of all
> meals that have meat (seafood is meat to me).
>
> ===
>
> Good news, but I didn't know he has had heart surgery??


Yes, but it wasn't open heart surgery levels. He was at the emergency
room a month ago and they had a stress test later and this was a
folow-up where they insert a camera and look inside the heart at the
arteries and veins.
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On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 8:30:37 AM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> She said
> to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy on the
> veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of all meals
> that have meat (seafood is meat to me).
>

Glad he's doing very good! And I could follow a diet of 1/3 of all meals
be seafood with no problem.


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> On 6/22/2019 10:41 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote:
> >
> > > On 6/22/2019 9:30 AM, cshenk wrote:
> > > > Julie Bove wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> >>>>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > writes:
> > > > > > > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie
> > > > > > > Bove wrote:
> > > > > > > > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
> > > > > > > > Mediterranean type salad.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell
> > > > > > > > peppers, tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and
> > > > > > > > pecans. His has craisins. I have no cucumber or that
> > > > > > > > would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't like
> > > > > > > > lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could
> > > > > > > exist on a bean diet for every meal.
> > > > > > > ====
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't
> > > > > > call it crap
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad
> > > > > > and add pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion -
> > > > > > assume you've got oil and vinegar, maybe oregano
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I make a lentil soup about once a week
> > > > > >
> > > > > > spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make
> > > > >
> > > > > Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini,
> > > > > but don't.
> > > >
> > > > I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that
> > > > you have posted from time to time?
> > > >
> > > > Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home.
> > > > Don's heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended
> > > > for 2 days. The good news is his heart checked out as
> > > > extremely healthy for his age with none of the plaque
> > > > (cholestrol) buildup to be expected by his age.
> > > >
> > > That's good news!
> > >
> > > > The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course).
> > > > She said to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and
> > > > heavy on the veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at
> > > > least 1/3 of all meals that have meat (seafood is meat to me).
> > > >
> > > I've always had the impression you cook/eat healthy food. Pssst,
> > > I consider fish/seafood to be meat, too.
> > >
> > > Jill

> >
> > Hehe yes, good news indeed. He was at the ER with an apparent heart
> > attack a month ago but it was decided that was not it. They also
> > said it might have been a lung related infection that would feel
> > similar so put him on antibiotics and he felt better very soon.
> >
> > This was followup as a stress test showed some mild abnormality but
> > the surgeon didnt find anything wrong at all. In fact, he looked
> > to the camera to be the heart of someone 30 years younger which
> > lead to the short (4-5 minutes) diet discussion.
> >
> > Yup on the seafood/fish. I'm careful to caveat it after finding I
> > seriously offended some Catholic folks (and similar) by chuckling at
> > 'meatless Friday' (whole salmon anyone?).
> >
> > While we have junk food sometimes here, generally, we eat healthy
> > almost every day. The majority of what we eat is made from scratch
> > if you accept that canned tomato products fit in there. It isn't
> > the occasional order out of Dominos that 'gets ya'. It's the extra
> > junk added to pre-made stuff eaten every day.
> >
> > When I grocery shop, I spend 35% of the time in the fresh veggies
> > and fruit section (plus potatoes and onions), 35% in the fresh meat
> > and seafood section, 10% in the canned section, 5% in the
> > flour/baking section, and the rest might be a pet food isle or
> > might be low on bandaids, or something specific like dried beans,
> > rice, or Pepsi.
> >

> Wow, you've got your shopping narrowed down to percentages?
>
> I don't bake bread anymore but I hit up the grocery store bakery for
> their (Bruce may chime in and say it isn't) sourdough bread. The
> bakery is right next to the produce section so I immediately go to
> look for veggies. Sometimes fruit, although I don't eat a great deal
> of fresh fruit. It's not that I don't like fruit, I just can't be
> guaranteed I'd actually eat that gorgeous plum or those beautiful
> berries before they spoil.
>
> I buy canned fruit. It stores in the pantry for a long time. Chill
> before opening the can and snacking. Frozen berries are fun, too.
> Make a chilled blender drink with frozen berries and sparkling water
> sometime. (Alcohol not required.)
>
> I move from the produce department, where I've bought vegetables I
> know I'll use up before they spoil, to the fish/seafood department.
> Beyond that is the beef, pork, chicken. I peruse.
>
> From there I walk to the back where the milk and cheese is. Butter
> is nearby.
>
> I occasionally have to make a side-trip down an aisle to buy oil or
> dried herbs/spices, peanut butter, things like that.
>
> > Will you see something else in our cart (might be 2)? Yes, but 80%
> > by volume of cart will be staples, veggies and meats. The rest
> > might be Pepsi, aluminium foil, coffee creamers (I supply them at
> > work as my part of the coffee mess).
> >

> (snippage)
>
> There was a time when I looked at other people's shopping carts.
> These days I don't care. I don't care if they look at what I buy,
> either.
>
> Jill


Hehe not so specific on the % time but it's kinda an estimate close to
what I do. Most veggies and meat area, then side trips. No bread other
than the flour for rye or whole wheat now if the KA works. (added to
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Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "cshenk" wrote in message
> ...
>
> Julie Bove wrote:
>
> >
> >"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> writes:
> >> > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove

> wrote: >> > > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
> >> > > Mediterranean type salad.
> >> > >
> >> > > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
> >> > > tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
> >> > > craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My
> >> > > blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans
> >> > > instead.
> >> >
> >> > As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist on a
> >> > bean diet for every meal.
> >> > ====
> > >
> >> it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't call it
> >> crap
> > >
> >> I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad and add
> >> pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion - assume you've got

> oil >> and vinegar, maybe oregano
> > >
> >> I make a lentil soup about once a week
> > >
> >> spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make

> >
> > Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini, but
> > don't.

>
> I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that you have
> posted from time to time?
>
> Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home.
> Don's heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended for 2
> days. The good news is his heart checked out as extremely healthy
> for his age with none of the plaque (cholestrol) buildup to be
> expected by his age.
>
> The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course). She
> said to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy on
> the veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of all
> meals that have meat (seafood is meat to me).
>
> ===
>
> Good news, but I didn't know he has had heart surgery??


Yes, but it wasn't open heart surgery levels. He was at the emergency
room a month ago and they had a stress test later and this was a
folow-up where they insert a camera and look inside the heart at the
arteries and veins.

===

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> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean type
> salad.
>
> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I have
> no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't like
> lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.


We were in Macy's the other day and I found a pressure cooker that would work on an induction stove for 32 bucks. It was a nice looking pot that uses a spring pressure regulator. I'd rather have a gravity regulator but for $32, I can't complain. I made pot roast. It was okay. What do I do now? Beats me.

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On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 3:12:04 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
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> We were in Macy's the other day and I found a pressure cooker that would work on an induction stove for 32 bucks. It was a nice looking pot that uses a spring pressure regulator. I'd rather have a gravity regulator but for $32, I can't complain. I made pot roast. It was okay. What do I do now? Beats me.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5JM0maPuNGFOU3
>

You can do frozen chicken wings or legs in 6 minutes after it comes to pressure.
Then you can take them out and finish them in the oven or toaster oven.
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On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:10:48 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
> > On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> >
> >> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a Mediterranean
> >> type salad.
> >>
> >> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
> >> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has craisins. I
> >> have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My blood sugar doesn't
> >> like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.

> >
> > Huh? Who is your gardener?
> >
> > Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the salad
> > you're serving?
> >
> > In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with the
> > gardening work?
> >

>
> I guess you never followed the story of the gardener. He lives in one
> of the outbuildings. Need you bush trimmed?


THAT is a rather personal question, Ed! ;-)

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Ophelia wrote:

>
>
> "cshenk" wrote in message
> ...
>
> Ophelia wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > "cshenk" wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> > Julie Bove wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> writes:
> >>> > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove

> >wrote: >> > > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
> >>> > > Mediterranean type salad.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell

> peppers, >>> > > tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans.
> His has >>> > > craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in
> there too. My >>> > > blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having
> kidney beans >>> > > instead.
> >>> >
> >>> > As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist on

> a >>> > bean diet for every meal.
> >>> > ====
> >> >
> >>> it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't call it
> >>> crap
> >> >
> >>> I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad and

> add >>> pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion - assume you've
> got >oil >> and vinegar, maybe oregano
> >> >
> >>> I make a lentil soup about once a week
> >> >
> >>> spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make
> > >
> >> Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini, but
> >> don't.

> >
> > I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that you
> > have posted from time to time?
> >
> > Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home.
> > Don's heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended for 2
> > days. The good news is his heart checked out as extremely healthy
> > for his age with none of the plaque (cholestrol) buildup to be
> > expected by his age.
> >
> > The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course). She
> > said to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy on
> > the veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of all
> > meals that have meat (seafood is meat to me).
> >
> > ===
> >
> > Good news, but I didn't know he has had heart surgery??

>
> Yes, but it wasn't open heart surgery levels. He was at the emergency
> room a month ago and they had a stress test later and this was a
> follow-up where they insert a camera and look inside the heart at the
> arteries and veins.
>
> ===
>
> And all is well??? That is good news


Yes. They had the extra tests because it seemed a month ago, he might
have been having a heart attack. Scarey as #%^ to us all here.

The surgeon said he's got one of the cleanest hearts she's seen in a
long time for a man of his age (still a bit shy of 70). More like a
man 1/2 his age. Looks like we can relax on the statin cholestrol meds
they have been trying to get him to take recently that do not make him
feel well.
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> On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 6:24:21 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
> > Mediterranean type salad.
> >
> > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
> > tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
> > craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My
> > blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.

>
> We were in Macy's the other day and I found a pressure cooker that
> would work on an induction stove for 32 bucks. It was a nice looking
> pot that uses a spring pressure regulator. I'd rather have a gravity
> regulator but for $32, I can't complain. I made pot roast. It was
> okay. What do I do now? Beats me.
>
>

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5JM0maPuNGFOU3

Looks good but dunno next step. Pressure cookers seem all about how
'fast they cook once up to pressure' but my few forays into them the
total time was almost the same as stove top.

Somehow, they never seemed like a 'fun' device to me.
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> On 21:05 21 Jun 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 20:58:29 +0100, Pamela >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On 20:47 21 Jun 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:59:33 +0100, Pamela >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 15:10 21 Jun 2019, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
>>>>>>>> Mediterranean type salad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>>>>>>>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
>>>>>>>> craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My
>>>>>>>> blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans
>>>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh? Who is your gardener?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the
>>>>>>> salad you're serving?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with
>>>>>>> the gardening work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess you never followed the story of the gardener. He lives in
>>>>>> one of the outbuildings.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does the gardener permanently live in the grounds but come to the main
>>>>>house for meals? That's an odd arrangement.
>>>>
>>>> Are you really going to rehash all that? Just when the vultures have
>>>> fallen asleep?
>>>
>>>I've read posters make a passing comment about Julie's gardener but I
>>>assumed it was an unwarranted snide joke about some imaginary gardener.
>>>
>>>I hadn't realised there's a real gardener and that Julie really makes
>>>carefully prepared meals for him.
>>>
>>>What's the back story? All I know is he lives in an outbuilding.

>>
>> Just that Julie has a gardener. But some emotionally starved RFC women
>> got very jealous when they heard that. Now they want a gardener too.
>> Or better yet, they want Julie's gardener.

>
> That sounds improbable on more than once count.


Doesn't seem that way to me.

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> On 21:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Pamela" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 20:47 21 Jun 2019, Bruce > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2019 18:59:33 +0100, Pamela >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 15:10 21 Jun 2019, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/21/2019 7:04 AM, Pamela wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05:24 21 Jun 2019, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
>>>>>>>> Mediterranean type salad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>>>>>>>> tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
>>>>>>>> craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My
>>>>>>>> blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans
>>>>>>>> instead.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Huh? Who is your gardener?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hasn't got any gardening to do, instead of making demands about the
>>>>>>> salad you're serving?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In fact, why doesn't he bring some sandwiches and just get on with
>>>>>>> the gardening work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess you never followed the story of the gardener. He lives in
>>>>>> one of the outbuildings.
>>>>>
>>>>>Does the gardener permanently live in the grounds but come to the main
>>>>>house for meals? That's an odd arrangement.
>>>>
>>>> Are you really going to rehash all that? Just when the vultures have
>>>> fallen asleep?
>>>
>>> I've read posters make a passing comment about Julie's gardener but I
>>> assumed it was an unwarranted snide joke about some imaginary gardener.
>>>
>>> I hadn't realised there's a real gardener and that Julie really makes
>>> carefully prepared meals for him.
>>>
>>> What's the back story? All I know is he lives in an outbuilding.

>>
>> He lost his home in a fire. I offered him the spare room but it is
>> really small. He's storing some things in there but he preferred to live
>> in what he calls the tiny house. It's not entirely finished inside and
>> there is no running water so he comes in here for that. He actually
>> comes and goes as he pleases. We're friends. He has a GF. I love to cook
>> so I said I would make dinner every night. Sometimes he buys the food.
>> Sometimes I do. I get a lot of stuff at Costco. I don't pay him. We just
>> sort of do things back and forth for each other. He does more than just
>> gardening. He's good with handyman stuff.

>
> Do you see yourself as having an emotional attchment to him?


Of course!

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> Julie Bove wrote:
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>>
>> "tert in seattle" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > writes:
>> > > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove wrote:
>> > > > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
>> > > > Mediterranean type salad.
>> > > >
>> > > > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
>> > > > tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
>> > > > craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My
>> > > > blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans
>> > > > instead.
>> > >
>> > > As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist on a
>> > > bean diet for every meal.
>> > > ====
>> >
>> > it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't call it
>> > crap
>> >
>> > I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad and add
>> > pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion - assume you've got oil
>> > and vinegar, maybe oregano
>> >
>> > I make a lentil soup about once a week
>> >
>> > spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make

>>
>> Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini, but
>> don't.

>
> I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that you have
> posted from time to time?


Yes but that is made as a meal. This stuff came in a box. Can't remember the
brand but I think it's the only brown rice kind available. Winco sells it.
>
> Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home. Don's
> heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended for 2 days.
> The good news is his heart checked out as extremely healthy for his age
> with none of the plaque (cholestrol) buildup to be expected by his age.
>
> The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course). She said
> to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy on the
> veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of all meals
> that have meat (seafood is meat to me).


Okay.



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> jmcquown wrote:
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>> On 6/22/2019 9:30 AM, cshenk wrote:
>> > Julie Bove wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> >>"tert in seattle" > wrote in message
>> > > ...
>> > > > writes:
>> > > > > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:24:21 PM UTC-6, Julie Bove
>> > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
>> > > > > > Mediterranean type salad.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell
>> > > > > > peppers, tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans.
>> > > > > > His has craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in
>> > > > > > there too. My blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm
>> > > > > > having kidney beans instead.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > As usual you are eating crap again. I'm sure you could exist
>> > > > > on a bean diet for every meal.
>> > > > > ====
>> > > >
>> > > > it doesn't sound all that appealing to me but I wouldn't call it
>> > > > crap
>> > > >
>> > > > I'd leave the bell peppers, fruit and nuts out of the salad and
>> > > > add pepperoncini, cherry tomatoes, and red onion - assume
>> > > > you've got oil and vinegar, maybe oregano
>> > > >
>> > > > I make a lentil soup about once a week
>> > > >
>> > > > spanish rice is one of those things I like but never make
>> > >
>> > > Did not have red onion. I don't know if he likes pepperocini, but
>> > > don't.
>> >
>> > I seem to recall you have a good recipe for Spanish Rice that you
>> > have posted from time to time?
>> >
>> > Today is when I would have gone shopping but instead am at home.
>> > Don's heart cath yesterday means he's not to be left untended for 2
>> > days. The good news is his heart checked out as extremely healthy
>> > for his age with none of the plaque (cholestrol) buildup to be
>> > expected by his age.
>> >

>> That's good news!
>>
>> > The surgeon discussed diet (and post surgery care of course). She
>> > said to keep on going just like we are. Sodium reduced and heavy
>> > on the veggies and fruits, reliance on seafood for at least 1/3 of
>> > all meals that have meat (seafood is meat to me).
>> >

>> I've always had the impression you cook/eat healthy food. Pssst, I
>> consider fish/seafood to be meat, too.
>>
>> Jill

>
> Hehe yes, good news indeed. He was at the ER with an apparent heart
> attack a month ago but it was decided that was not it. They also said
> it might have been a lung related infection that would feel similar so
> put him on antibiotics and he felt better very soon.
>
> This was followup as a stress test showed some mild abnormality but the
> surgeon didnt find anything wrong at all. In fact, he looked to the
> camera to be the heart of someone 30 years younger which lead to the
> short (4-5 minutes) diet discussion.
>
> Yup on the seafood/fish. I'm careful to caveat it after finding I
> seriously offended some Catholic folks (and similar) by chuckling at
> 'meatless Friday' (whole salmon anyone?).
>
> While we have junk food sometimes here, generally, we eat healthy
> almost every day. The majority of what we eat is made from scratch if
> you accept that canned tomato products fit in there. It isn't the
> occasional order out of Dominos that 'gets ya'. It's the extra junk
> added to pre-made stuff eaten every day.
>
> When I grocery shop, I spend 35% of the time in the fresh veggies and
> fruit section (plus potatoes and onions), 35% in the fresh meat and
> seafood section, 10% in the canned section, 5% in the flour/baking
> section, and the rest might be a pet food isle or might be low on
> bandaids, or something specific like dried beans, rice, or Pepsi.
>
> Will you see something else in our cart (might be 2)? Yes, but 80% by
> volume of cart will be staples, veggies and meats. The rest might be
> Pepsi, aluminium foil, coffee creamers (I supply them at work as my
> part of the coffee mess).
>
> Although a very different person from Julie, she also is a bit like me
> in how she cooks in _some_ ways. She seems to start (like I do) with
> what she has in fresh foods, and work on from there.
>
> The difference is she seems to start with an idea then look for the
> parts while I start with what I have and work onwards from there.


If I can't get to the store then I do rely on what I have. When fixing food
for just me, this is never a problem. Although I am picky, I stick to buying
things that I like although once in a while, I'll try something different.
That way I always have the makings of a meal.

The gardener likes more variety and especially likes Thai and Asian food. I
don't like Thai food at all and pretty much only like a couple of Asian
ones. That means I have to buy bean sprouts (they don't keep well) and
sometimes have to hunt for sauces. I also have to buy the Pad Thai noodles
online because he likes the brown rice ones and they are far cheaper to get
this way.

I also eat very little meat. When by myself, I never or rarely buy meat, but
I will eat it in a restaurant. It's far easier to order a meat meal than a
vegetarian one in a restaurant.

I am making pork fried rice for him, and there are plenty of leftovers in
the fridge. I am cooking some plain rice so I shouldn't have to cook
tomorrow.

I will have the rest of the tuna salad in a pita.

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> There was a time when I looked at other people's shopping carts. These
> days I don't care. I don't care if they look at what I buy, either.


I always look at people's shopping carts. I am always sad when I see an
elderly person with nothing but small, cheap, frozen meals or person with
small children buying cheap cereal and fruit flavored drinks.

Once at Winco, there was a mom with two teenage girls. She had three carts
heaped full. I didn't see much in the way of junk food. No soda. A lot of
bulk packs of chicken parts, fresh and frozen vegetables, dairy and eggs,
lots of bread, some cleaning supplies and personal care items.

The girls were fighting over the correct way to bag groceries so they were
calling attention to themselves. I was next in line. The bill came to over
$500. The cashier asked if this food was some for some event. The mom said
no. Just for them. I asked her how many there were. She said just the three
of them and that was their normal weekly shopping. I was shocked!

When Angela I lived alone, our weekly shopping there amounted to maybe $80 a
week. Granted, this was a few years ago. Neither of us were big meat eaters
and we didn't buy much of our personal products there.

I was still shocked. The mom and one daughter were thin. The other daughter
was not thin but didn't look much overweight either. I just couldn't imagine
them eating that much chicken!

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On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 12:24:44 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 3:12:04 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
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> > We were in Macy's the other day and I found a pressure cooker that would work on an induction stove for 32 bucks. It was a nice looking pot that uses a spring pressure regulator. I'd rather have a gravity regulator but for $32, I can't complain. I made pot roast. It was okay. What do I do now? Beats me.
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5JM0maPuNGFOU3
> >

> You can do frozen chicken wings or legs in 6 minutes after it comes to pressure.
> Then you can take them out and finish them in the oven or toaster oven.


That would be a plan however the air fryer works great for chicken wings. I'll make some kalua pig in the pressure cooker. For the air fryer, I plan to wrap a stuffed Anaheim pepper in pie dough and air fry it. That should be tasty.
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On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 1:55:12 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
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> > On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 6:24:21 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > > My gardener said he wanted Spanish rice, lentils and a
> > > Mediterranean type salad.
> > >
> > > The rice is brown. The salad is Romaine with baby bell peppers,
> > > tomatoes,Kalamatta olives, feta cheese and pecans. His has
> > > craisins. I have no cucumber or that would be in there too. My
> > > blood sugar doesn't like lentils so I'm having kidney beans instead.

> >
> > We were in Macy's the other day and I found a pressure cooker that
> > would work on an induction stove for 32 bucks. It was a nice looking
> > pot that uses a spring pressure regulator. I'd rather have a gravity
> > regulator but for $32, I can't complain. I made pot roast. It was
> > okay. What do I do now? Beats me.
> >
> >

> https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared...5JM0maPuNGFOU3
>
> Looks good but dunno next step. Pressure cookers seem all about how
> 'fast they cook once up to pressure' but my few forays into them the
> total time was almost the same as stove top.
>
> Somehow, they never seemed like a 'fun' device to me.


They were more fun when I was younger. Not so much now. I'm guessing because I'm not that much into meat these days.
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On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 9:24:29 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
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> On Saturday, June 22, 2019 at 12:24:44 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> >
> > You can do frozen chicken wings or legs in 6 minutes after it comes to pressure.
> > Then you can take them out and finish them in the oven or toaster oven.

>
> That would be a plan however the air fryer works great for chicken wings. I'll make some kalua pig in the pressure cooker. For the air fryer, I plan to wrap a stuffed Anaheim pepper in pie dough and air fry it. That should be tasty.
>

Ok, I was thinking you had an air fryer but could not remember for sure.
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