I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need to
eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green beans.
I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the beans in
water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue Jill* Steam them! I
opted for the boiling water.

Original recipe uses ground beef, the partially cooked green beans and a
sliced onion. I added two bell peppers that had an accident so needed to be
used soon and a good handful of grape tomatoes. Stir fry all with a little
garlic in sesame oil. I did mostly peanut with a little sesame as I find
sesame to be overwhelming. Add some beef broth or water and beef powder, 1 T
molasses and 3 T. soy sauce. Cornstarch (I used sweet rice flour) to make a
gravy. Some reviewers claimed it needed more seasoning so I added salt,
black pepper and a touch more garlic.

Serve over rice. I made brown. It's good but if I were making it just for
me, I would not use the molasses and soy sauce. I think I would prefer a
plain brown gravy.

On Thu, 23 May 2019 21:27:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need to
> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef....

So this is your newest At Death's Door - fatty liver? <yawn>

The last thing you should be buying is beef, let alone
bacteria-ridden marked down beef. There's a reason it's partially
brown (or about to be).

-sw

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 23 May 2019 21:27:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>> to
>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
>> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef....
>
> So this is your newest At Death's Door - fatty liver? <yawn>

I'm not at death's door. And it's not a new condition.
>
> The last thing you should be buying is beef, let alone
> bacteria-ridden marked down beef. There's a reason it's partially
> brown (or about to be).

I wasn't brown and it's not bacteria laden.

On Thu, 23 May 2019 23:10:42 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 21:27:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>>> to
>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
>>> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef....
>>
>> So this is your newest At Death's Door - fatty liver? <yawn>
>
> I'm not at death's door. And it's not a new condition.
>>
>> The last thing you should be buying is beef, let alone
>> bacteria-ridden marked down beef. There's a reason it's partially
>> brown (or about to be).
>
> I wasn't brown and it's not bacteria laden.

Yes. it was. It was bacteria-laden as soon as it was killed. 26
days later it's even more bacteria laden.

That is a fact no matter how much you care to deny it.

-sw

lid writes:
>On Thu, 23 May 2019 23:10:42 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 21:27:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>>>> to
>>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
>>>> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef....
>>>
>>> So this is your newest At Death's Door - fatty liver? <yawn>
>>
>> I'm not at death's door. And it's not a new condition.
>>>
>>> The last thing you should be buying is beef, let alone
>>> bacteria-ridden marked down beef. There's a reason it's partially
>>> brown (or about to be).
>>
>> I wasn't brown and it's not bacteria laden.
>
>Yes. it was. It was bacteria-laden as soon as it was killed. 26
>days later it's even more bacteria laden.
>
>That is a fact no matter how much you care to deny it.
>
>-sw

how do you kill ground beef?

On Fri, 24 May 2019 17:15:49 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle wrote:

> lid writes:
>>On Thu, 23 May 2019 23:10:42 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 21:27:16 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>>>>> to
>>>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
>>>>> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef....
>>>>
>>>> So this is your newest At Death's Door - fatty liver? <yawn>
>>>
>>> I'm not at death's door. And it's not a new condition.
>>>>
>>>> The last thing you should be buying is beef, let alone
>>>> bacteria-ridden marked down beef. There's a reason it's partially
>>>> brown (or about to be).
>>>
>>> I wasn't brown and it's not bacteria laden.
>>
>>Yes. it was. It was bacteria-laden as soon as it was killed. 26
>>days later it's even more bacteria laden.
>>
>>That is a fact no matter how much you care to deny it.
>
> how do you kill ground beef?

It eventually comes back to life. Not as cow, though.

-sw

On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need to
> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.

What junk science web site did you get this from?

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-05-24 4:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need to
>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>
> What junk science web site did you get this from?
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
With her supposed IQ, why would she ask for advice here?

On Fri, 24 May 2019 05:13:48 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2019-05-24 4:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need to
>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>>
>> What junk science web site did you get this from?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>With her supposed IQ, why would she ask for advice here?

That question tells me your IQ is a lot lower.

On 2019-05-24 7:13 a.m., graham wrote:
> On 2019-05-24 4:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I
>>> need to
>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>>
>> What junk science web site did you get this from?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> With her supposed IQ, why would she ask for advice here?


Is there anyone here who believes she has an IQ in the genius range? I
would have pegged her at average at the very best.

On Fri, 24 May 2019 21:49:30 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-05-24 7:13 a.m., graham wrote:
>> On 2019-05-24 4:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I
>>>> need to
>>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>>>
>>> What junk science web site did you get this from?
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> With her supposed IQ, why would she ask for advice here?
>
>
>Is there anyone here who believes she has an IQ in the genius range? I
>would have pegged her at average at the very best.

136 is smart, but not genius.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 24 May 2019 21:49:30 -0400, Dave Smith
> > wrote:
>
>>On 2019-05-24 7:13 a.m., graham wrote:
>>> On 2019-05-24 4:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I
>>>>> need to
>>>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>>>>
>>>> What junk science web site did you get this from?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> With her supposed IQ, why would she ask for advice here?
>>
>>
>>Is there anyone here who believes she has an IQ in the genius range? I
>>would have pegged her at average at the very best.
>
> 136 is smart, but not genius.

Right. And the thought of Dave pegging me just skeeves me out.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-05-24 7:13 a.m., graham wrote:
>> On 2019-05-24 4:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>>>> to
>>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>>>
>>> What junk science web site did you get this from?
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> With her supposed IQ, why would she ask for advice here?
>
>
> Is there anyone here who believes she has an IQ in the genius range? I
> would have pegged her at average at the very best.

136 is not considered genius!

"graham" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-05-24 4:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>>> to
>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>>
>> What junk science web site did you get this from?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> With her supposed IQ, why would she ask for advice here?

I didn't!

On 5/24/2019 7:13 AM, graham wrote:
> On 2019-05-24 4:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I
>>> need to
>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>>
>> What junk science web site did you get this from?
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> With her supposed IQ, why would she ask for advice here?

Ah, but she didn't ask for advice!

Jill

On Sat, 25 May 2019 09:42:06 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 5/24/2019 7:13 AM, graham wrote:
>> On 2019-05-24 4:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I
>>>> need to
>>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>>>
>>> What junk science web site did you get this from?
>>>
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>
>> With her supposed IQ, why would she ask for advice here?
>
>Ah, but she didn't ask for advice!
>
>Jill

JB didnt ask for advice directly, but by posting her personal medical
information she's essentially inviting comments, opinions, and
advice... that's the nature of newsgroups... otherwise she should have
kept her personal medical information to email or better kept it to
herself and her doctor. Posting anything to a newsgroup automatically
opens it to public scrutiny with any and all responses it may draw.
That's why most don't post pictures of their cooking, they know that
they wouldn't be able to handle any comments other than "that's
wonderful".

On 5/25/2019 11:14 AM, wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2019 09:42:06 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 5/24/2019 7:13 AM, graham wrote:
>>> On 2019-05-24 4:06 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>> On Friday, May 24, 2019 at 12:27:23 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I
>>>>> need to
>>>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>>>>
>>>> What junk science web site did you get this from?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>>>
>>> With her supposed IQ, why would she ask for advice here?
>>
>> Ah, but she didn't ask for advice!
>>
>> Jill
>
> JB didnt ask for advice directly, but by posting her personal medical
> information she's essentially inviting comments, opinions, and
> advice... that's the nature of newsgroups... otherwise she should have
> kept her personal medical information to email or better kept it to
> herself and her doctor. Posting anything to a newsgroup automatically
> opens it to public scrutiny with any and all responses it may draw.
> That's why most don't post pictures of their cooking, they know that
> they wouldn't be able to handle any comments other than "that's
> wonderful".
>
Obviously she was inviting *attention* by mentioning some medical
condition. In a subsequent post she claims it wasn't about her fatty
liver. Yet she went out of her way to mention it. She got the intended
attention seeking result, up to and including *cue Jill* when the recipe
mentioned steaming the green beans.

She shows her ignorance by saying she likes her cooked vegetables still
crisp. Apparently she doesn't know how to take vegetables being cooked
in a pot with a steamer basket off the burner when they're tender-crisp.

As for photos, some people just don't care about taking pictures of
food. I've posted many food pics over the years but really, I'd rather
eat than snap photos of it.

Jill

Julie Bove > wrote:
> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need to
> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green beans.
> I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the beans in
> water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue Jill* Steam them! I
> opted for the boiling water.
>
> Original recipe uses ground beef, the partially cooked green beans and a
> sliced onion. I added two bell peppers that had an accident so needed to be
> used soon and a good handful of grape tomatoes. Stir fry all with a little
> garlic in sesame oil. I did mostly peanut with a little sesame as I find
> sesame to be overwhelming. Add some beef broth or water and beef powder, 1 T
> molasses and 3 T. soy sauce. Cornstarch (I used sweet rice flour) to make a
> gravy. Some reviewers claimed it needed more seasoning so I added salt,
> black pepper and a touch more garlic.
>
> Serve over rice. I made brown. It's good but if I were making it just for
> me, I would not use the molasses and soy sauce. I think I would prefer a
> plain brown gravy.
>
>

This may be the worst recipe Ive ever seen if you want to heal your fatty
liver! No red meat (ground beef), no sugars (molasses), no sodium (soy
sauce, beef broth, plus extra salt), no saturated fat (peanut and sesame
oil) and low calorie (this isnt it). At least you served it over brown
rice. Its this recipes only liver saving grace. Please get your diet
information from reputable medical sites (not sites that recommend more
onions and celery).

On Fri, 24 May 2019 14:40:44 -0000 (UTC), Jinx the Minx wrote:

> Julie Bove > wrote:
>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need to
>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
>> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green beans.
>> I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the beans in
>> water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue Jill* Steam them! I
>> opted for the boiling water.
>>
>> Original recipe uses ground beef, the partially cooked green beans and a
>> sliced onion. I added two bell peppers that had an accident so needed to be
>> used soon and a good handful of grape tomatoes. Stir fry all with a little
>> garlic in sesame oil. I did mostly peanut with a little sesame as I find
>> sesame to be overwhelming. Add some beef broth or water and beef powder, 1 T
>> molasses and 3 T. soy sauce. Cornstarch (I used sweet rice flour) to make a
>> gravy. Some reviewers claimed it needed more seasoning so I added salt,
>> black pepper and a touch more garlic.
>>
>> Serve over rice. I made brown. It's good but if I were making it just for
>> me, I would not use the molasses and soy sauce. I think I would prefer a
>> plain brown gravy.
>>
>
> This may be the worst recipe I¢ve ever seen if you want to heal your fatty
> liver! No red meat (ground beef), no sugars (molasses), no sodium (soy
> sauce, beef broth, plus extra salt), no saturated fat (peanut and sesame
> oil) and low calorie (this isn¢t it). At least you served it over brown
> rice. It¢s this recipe¢s only liver saving grace. Please get your diet
> information from reputable medical sites (not sites that recommend more
> onions and celery).

I just stopped reading at the "beef" part. Thank you for having
more patience and being more thorough :-)

ObFood: It's National Escargot Day. I may even have a can in the
pantry...

-sw

On Fri, 24 May 2019 11:04:22 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>ObFood: It's National Escargot Day. I may even have a can in the
>pantry...

And remember: the bit that says "crunch" is its penis.

On 2019-05-24, Jinx the Minx > wrote:

> information from reputable medical sites (not sites that recommend more
> onions and celery).

HA!

"reputable medical sites"! As if there are any.

Even the Mayo Clinic has failed (I'll relate the story, if you care).

They don't say a medical doctor has a "practice" fer no good reason.

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-05-24, Jinx the Minx > wrote:
>
>> information from reputable medical sites (not sites that recommend more
>> onions and celery).
>
> HA!
>
> "reputable medical sites"! As if there are any.
>
> Even the Mayo Clinic has failed (I'll relate the story, if you care).
>
> They don't say a medical doctor has a "practice" fer no good reason.
>
> nb

I certainly would not take dietary advice from a Dr. They have very little
training with that.

I am battling a combination of medical problems. So there isn't going to be
one diet that works for me. Best I can do is make tweaks.

"Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>> to
>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
>> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green
>> beans.
>> I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the beans in
>> water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue Jill* Steam
>> them! I
>> opted for the boiling water.
>>
>> Original recipe uses ground beef, the partially cooked green beans and a
>> sliced onion. I added two bell peppers that had an accident so needed to
>> be
>> used soon and a good handful of grape tomatoes. Stir fry all with a
>> little
>> garlic in sesame oil. I did mostly peanut with a little sesame as I find
>> sesame to be overwhelming. Add some beef broth or water and beef powder,
>> 1 T
>> molasses and 3 T. soy sauce. Cornstarch (I used sweet rice flour) to make
>> a
>> gravy. Some reviewers claimed it needed more seasoning so I added salt,
>> black pepper and a touch more garlic.
>>
>> Serve over rice. I made brown. It's good but if I were making it just
>> for
>> me, I would not use the molasses and soy sauce. I think I would prefer a
>> plain brown gravy.
>>
>>
>
> This may be the worst recipe Ive ever seen if you want to heal your fatty
> liver! No red meat (ground beef), no sugars (molasses), no sodium (soy
> sauce, beef broth, plus extra salt), no saturated fat (peanut and sesame
> oil) and low calorie (this isnt it). At least you served it over brown
> rice. Its this recipes only liver saving grace. Please get your diet
> information from reputable medical sites (not sites that recommend more
> onions and celery).

I did not eat that for the fatty liver. I ate it to try to use up things
that I had in the house. I am trying to eat more onions and celery. I did
not get the onion and celery thing from a website. Both of those are good
for a fatty liver as are a lot of other fruits of vegetables but some of
those are things I can not or will not eat. Such as asparagus and Brusell
sprouts. No how, no way on those things. The recipe actually was pretty low
calorie though, as I didn't eat very much of it.

On 5/25/2019 4:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I
>>> need to
>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I
>>> got
>>> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green
>>> beans.
(snipped)

>> This may be the worst recipe Ive ever seen if you want to heal your
>> fatty
>> liver!Â* No red meat (ground beef), no sugars (molasses), no sodium (soy
>> sauce, beef broth, plus extra salt), no saturated fat (peanut and sesame
>> oil) and low calorie (this isnt it). At least you served it over brown
>> rice. Its this recipes only liver saving grace. Please get your diet
>> information from reputable medical sites (not sites that recommend more
>> onions and celery).
>
> I did not eat that for the fatty liver. I ate it to try to use up things
> that I had in the house.

Then why on earth did you start the post by saying "I am trying to
change my diet some to heal a fatty liver."?

You also said, "I added two bell peppers that had an accident"... I
doubt anyone knows what that means.

Jill

On 2019-05-25 10:24 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 5/25/2019 4:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>

>> I did not eat that for the fatty liver. I ate it to try to use up
>> things that I had in the house.
>
> Then why on earth did you start the post by saying "I am trying to
> change my diet some to heal a fatty liver."?


It is here clever little way of asking without actually asking. She has
been nailed too many times for asking for suggestions and then
systematically rejecting every suggestion made by the well meaning
people who got sucked into trying to help her. Now she just presents
the confusing scenario and avoids asking directly.
>
> You also said, "I added two bell peppers that had an accident"... I
> doubt anyone knows what that means.
>
> Jill

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2019-05-25 10:24 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
>> On 5/25/2019 4:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>
>>> I did not eat that for the fatty liver. I ate it to try to use up things
>>> that I had in the house.
>>
>> Then why on earth did you start the post by saying "I am trying to change
>> my diet some to heal a fatty liver."?
>
>
> It is here clever little way of asking without actually asking. She has
> been nailed too many times for asking for suggestions and then
> systematically rejecting every suggestion made by the well meaning people
> who got sucked into trying to help her. Now she just presents the
> confusing scenario and avoids asking directly.

In no way was I asking for advice or suggestions. I merely said what I made
for dinner.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/25/2019 4:04 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>>>> to
>>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I
>>>> got
>>>> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green
>>>> beans.
> (snipped)
>
>>> This may be the worst recipe Ive ever seen if you want to heal your
>>> fatty
>>> liver! No red meat (ground beef), no sugars (molasses), no sodium (soy
>>> sauce, beef broth, plus extra salt), no saturated fat (peanut and sesame
>>> oil) and low calorie (this isnt it). At least you served it over brown
>>> rice. Its this recipes only liver saving grace. Please get your diet
>>> information from reputable medical sites (not sites that recommend more
>>> onions and celery).
>>
>> I did not eat that for the fatty liver. I ate it to try to use up things
>> that I had in the house.
>
> Then why on earth did you start the post by saying "I am trying to change
> my diet some to heal a fatty liver."?
>
> You also said, "I added two bell peppers that had an accident"... I doubt
> anyone knows what that means.

I don't know what happened to them. Maybe someone knocked them on the floor?
They looked damaged but they weren't damaged when I put them in there.

Julie Bove > wrote:
>
> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>>> to
>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
>>> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green
>>> beans.
>>> I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the beans in
>>> water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue Jill* Steam
>>> them! I
>>> opted for the boiling water.
>>>
>>> Original recipe uses ground beef, the partially cooked green beans and a
>>> sliced onion. I added two bell peppers that had an accident so needed to
>>> be
>>> used soon and a good handful of grape tomatoes. Stir fry all with a
>>> little
>>> garlic in sesame oil. I did mostly peanut with a little sesame as I find
>>> sesame to be overwhelming. Add some beef broth or water and beef powder,
>>> 1 T
>>> molasses and 3 T. soy sauce. Cornstarch (I used sweet rice flour) to make
>>> a
>>> gravy. Some reviewers claimed it needed more seasoning so I added salt,
>>> black pepper and a touch more garlic.
>>>
>>> Serve over rice. I made brown. It's good but if I were making it just
>>> for
>>> me, I would not use the molasses and soy sauce. I think I would prefer a
>>> plain brown gravy.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> This may be the worst recipe Ive ever seen if you want to heal your fatty
>> liver! No red meat (ground beef), no sugars (molasses), no sodium (soy
>> sauce, beef broth, plus extra salt), no saturated fat (peanut and sesame
>> oil) and low calorie (this isnt it). At least you served it over brown
>> rice. Its this recipes only liver saving grace. Please get your diet
>> information from reputable medical sites (not sites that recommend more
>> onions and celery).
>
> I did not eat that for the fatty liver. I ate it to try to use up things
> that I had in the house. I am trying to eat more onions and celery. I did
> not get the onion and celery thing from a website. Both of those are good
> for a fatty liver as are a lot of other fruits of vegetables but some of
> those are things I can not or will not eat. Such as asparagus and Brusell
> sprouts. No how, no way on those things. The recipe actually was pretty low
> calorie though, as I didn't eat very much of it.
>
>

Sorry, my mistake. You posted first thing that you were trying to change
your diet for fatty liver. Then you said you got some marked down beef and
green beans, which implies you just bought them for this diet, not had them
and were trying to use them up. Lastly, despite being €œlow calorie€� by
virtue of not eating a lot, it still wasnt the healthiest meal for fatty
liver.

"Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message
...
> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>
>> "Jinx the Minx" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Julie Bove > wrote:
>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>>>> to
>>>> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I
>>>> got
>>>> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green
>>>> beans.
>>>> I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the beans in
>>>> water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue Jill* Steam
>>>> them! I
>>>> opted for the boiling water.
>>>>
>>>> Original recipe uses ground beef, the partially cooked green beans and
>>>> a
>>>> sliced onion. I added two bell peppers that had an accident so needed
>>>> to
>>>> be
>>>> used soon and a good handful of grape tomatoes. Stir fry all with a
>>>> little
>>>> garlic in sesame oil. I did mostly peanut with a little sesame as I
>>>> find
>>>> sesame to be overwhelming. Add some beef broth or water and beef
>>>> powder,
>>>> 1 T
>>>> molasses and 3 T. soy sauce. Cornstarch (I used sweet rice flour) to
>>>> make
>>>> a
>>>> gravy. Some reviewers claimed it needed more seasoning so I added salt,
>>>> black pepper and a touch more garlic.
>>>>
>>>> Serve over rice. I made brown. It's good but if I were making it just
>>>> for
>>>> me, I would not use the molasses and soy sauce. I think I would prefer
>>>> a
>>>> plain brown gravy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> This may be the worst recipe Ive ever seen if you want to heal your
>>> fatty
>>> liver! No red meat (ground beef), no sugars (molasses), no sodium (soy
>>> sauce, beef broth, plus extra salt), no saturated fat (peanut and sesame
>>> oil) and low calorie (this isnt it). At least you served it over brown
>>> rice. Its this recipes only liver saving grace. Please get your diet
>>> information from reputable medical sites (not sites that recommend more
>>> onions and celery).
>>
>> I did not eat that for the fatty liver. I ate it to try to use up things
>> that I had in the house. I am trying to eat more onions and celery. I did
>> not get the onion and celery thing from a website. Both of those are good
>> for a fatty liver as are a lot of other fruits of vegetables but some of
>> those are things I can not or will not eat. Such as asparagus and Brusell
>> sprouts. No how, no way on those things. The recipe actually was pretty
>> low
>> calorie though, as I didn't eat very much of it.
>>
>>
>
> Sorry, my mistake. You posted first thing that you were trying to change
> your diet for fatty liver. Then you said you got some marked down beef and
> green beans, which implies you just bought them for this diet, not had
> them
> and were trying to use them up. Lastly, despite being €œlow calorie€� by
> virtue of not eating a lot, it still wasnt the healthiest meal for fatty
> liver.

But I have a lot of other medical conditions and I do need to eat beef for
one of them. I mentioned the onions and celery for fatty liver. I already
eat a lot of those but am trying to increase those.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> But I have a lot of other medical conditions and I do need to eat beef for
> one of them.

What medical condition calls for eating beef specifically?

>I mentioned the onions and celery for fatty liver. I already
> eat a lot of those but am trying to increase those.

Easy enough to do. Buy more and eat them. Sweet potatoes are good
too. If you don't like them, too bad baby. Give up the excessive
wine consumption too.

On 5/24/2019 12:27 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
> to eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I
> got some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of
> green beans. I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put
> the beans in water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue
> Jill* Steam them! I opted for the boiling water.
>
I'd have either nuked or steamed them. I have a steamer basket that
fits in the pot. They have more flavor that way.


>
> Serve over rice. I made brown. It's good* but if I were making it just
> for me, I would not use the molasses and soy sauce. I think I would
> prefer a plain brown gravy.

I'd leave them in but probably half the amount for just a hint of their
flavor.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/24/2019 12:27 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>> to eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I
>> got some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green
>> beans. I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the
>> beans in water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue Jill*
>> Steam them! I opted for the boiling water.
>>
> I'd have either nuked or steamed them. I have a steamer basket that fits
> in the pot. They have more flavor that way.

I can't stand the texture of steamed vegetables. If I were to make this dish
again, I would just throw them right in with the meat. I prefer crisp beans.
>
>
>>
>> Serve over rice. I made brown. It's good but if I were making it just for
>> me, I would not use the molasses and soy sauce. I think I would prefer a
>> plain brown gravy.
>
> I'd leave them in but probably half the amount for just a hint of their
> flavor.

Wasn't a flavor profile I really liked.

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 4:09:40 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On 5/24/2019 12:27 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
> >> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
> >> to eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I
> >> got some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green
> >> beans. I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the
> >> beans in water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue Jill*
> >> Steam them! I opted for the boiling water.
> >>
> > I'd have either nuked or steamed them. I have a steamer basket that fits
> > in the pot. They have more flavor that way.
>
> I can't stand the texture of steamed vegetables. If I were to make this dish
> again, I would just throw them right in with the meat. I prefer crisp beans.

You can steam vegetables as crisp or as soft as you prefer.

Cindy Hamilton

On 5/25/2019 5:57 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 4:09:40 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 5/24/2019 12:27 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need
>>>> to eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I
>>>> got some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green
>>>> beans. I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the
>>>> beans in water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue Jill*
>>>> Steam them! I opted for the boiling water.
>>>>
>>> I'd have either nuked or steamed them. I have a steamer basket that fits
>>> in the pot. They have more flavor that way.
>>
>> I can't stand the texture of steamed vegetables. If I were to make this dish
>> again, I would just throw them right in with the meat. I prefer crisp beans.
>
> You can steam vegetables as crisp or as soft as you prefer.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
She such a great cook yet she hasn't figured that out yet.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/25/2019 5:57 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 4:09:40 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 5/24/2019 12:27 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>>> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I
>>>>> need
>>>>> to eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat.
>>>>> I
>>>>> got some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of
>>>>> green
>>>>> beans. I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the
>>>>> beans in water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue
>>>>> Jill*
>>>>> Steam them! I opted for the boiling water.
>>>>>
>>>> I'd have either nuked or steamed them. I have a steamer basket that
>>>> fits
>>>> in the pot. They have more flavor that way.
>>>
>>> I can't stand the texture of steamed vegetables. If I were to make this
>>> dish
>>> again, I would just throw them right in with the meat. I prefer crisp
>>> beans.
>>
>> You can steam vegetables as crisp or as soft as you prefer.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
> She such a great cook yet she hasn't figured that out yet.

I don't like them steamed at all, no matter. A stir fried green bean in no
way tastes like a steamed green bean.

On Sat, 25 May 2019 01:09:30 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> wrote:

>
<snip>
>
>I can't stand the texture of steamed vegetables. If I were to make this dish
>again, I would just throw them right in with the meat. I prefer crisp beans.

Whatever do you mean? Steaming does not impart a texture. Each
vegetable has its own texture. Steaming can achieve all that boiling
water does without the water uptake.

Steam until hot but crunchy, as in sugar snaps, asparagus or beans if
you like them like that. At the other end of the scale, steam until
soft for mashing, like whole potatoes.

Texture depends on the vegetable and the degree of doneness.

JB

<snip>

On 5/27/2019 9:02 AM, JBurns wrote:
> On Sat, 25 May 2019 01:09:30 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
> <snip>
>>
>> I can't stand the texture of steamed vegetables. If I were to make this dish
>> again, I would just throw them right in with the meat. I prefer crisp beans.
>
> Whatever do you mean? Steaming does not impart a texture. Each
> vegetable has its own texture. Steaming can achieve all that boiling
> water does without the water uptake.
>
> Steam until hot but crunchy, as in sugar snaps, asparagus or beans if
> you like them like that. At the other end of the scale, steam until
> soft for mashing, like whole potatoes.
>
> Texture depends on the vegetable and the degree of doneness.
>
> JB
>
> <snip>
>
She's just making up excuses at this point. She's got no support for
her reasons for not steaming vegetables as opposed to par-boiling them
prior to stir-frying them, so she blathers.

Jill

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 5/27/2019 9:02 AM, JBurns wrote:
>> On Sat, 25 May 2019 01:09:30 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> I can't stand the texture of steamed vegetables. If I were to make this
>>> dish
>>> again, I would just throw them right in with the meat. I prefer crisp
>>> beans.
>>
>> Whatever do you mean? Steaming does not impart a texture. Each
>> vegetable has its own texture. Steaming can achieve all that boiling
>> water does without the water uptake.
>>
>> Steam until hot but crunchy, as in sugar snaps, asparagus or beans if
>> you like them like that. At the other end of the scale, steam until
>> soft for mashing, like whole potatoes.
>>
>> Texture depends on the vegetable and the degree of doneness.
>>
>> JB
>>
>> <snip>
>>
> She's just making up excuses at this point. She's got no support for her
> reasons for not steaming vegetables as opposed to par-boiling them prior
> to stir-frying them, so she blathers.

I have had steamed vegetables a few times in restaurants. I did not like
them, especially the potatoes. I don't normally par-boil anything. I did try
it for that one recipe and did not like the end result. Seemed like it took
all the flavor out of them. I don't care for stir fried stuff either but I
will eat it once in a while, perhaps to remind myself why I don't like it.

"JBurns" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 25 May 2019 01:09:30 -0700, "Julie Bove"
> > wrote:
>
>>
> <snip>
>>
>>I can't stand the texture of steamed vegetables. If I were to make this
>>dish
>>again, I would just throw them right in with the meat. I prefer crisp
>>beans.
>
> Whatever do you mean? Steaming does not impart a texture. Each
> vegetable has its own texture. Steaming can achieve all that boiling
> water does without the water uptake.
>
> Steam until hot but crunchy, as in sugar snaps, asparagus or beans if
> you like them like that. At the other end of the scale, steam until
> soft for mashing, like whole potatoes.
>
> Texture depends on the vegetable and the degree of doneness.

I just don't like steamed vegetables at all, no matter what is done to them.
They don't appeal. I like raw vegetables or roasted. If it's hot outside, I
will do green beans in a pan on the stove with a touch of olive oil. No
water. Not overly fond of cooked sugar snaps and won't touch asparagus.

On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 6:27:23 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> I am trying to change my diet some to heal a fatty liver. I know I need to
> eat more onions and celery but need to read more about what to eat. I got
> some marked down organic grass fed ground beef and a big bag of green beans.
> I loosely followed a recipe. The recipe said to either put the beans in
> water, bring to a boil and let sit for 5 min. or... *Cue Jill* Steam them! I
> opted for the boiling water.
>
> Original recipe uses ground beef, the partially cooked green beans and a
> sliced onion. I added two bell peppers that had an accident so needed to be
> used soon and a good handful of grape tomatoes. Stir fry all with a little
> garlic in sesame oil. I did mostly peanut with a little sesame as I find
> sesame to be overwhelming. Add some beef broth or water and beef powder, 1 T
> molasses and 3 T. soy sauce. Cornstarch (I used sweet rice flour) to make a
> gravy. Some reviewers claimed it needed more seasoning so I added salt,
> black pepper and a touch more garlic.
>
> Serve over rice. I made brown. It's good but if I were making it just for
> me, I would not use the molasses and soy sauce. I think I would prefer a
> plain brown gravy.

I bought a teriyaki burger from Jack-in-the-Box for $1.99, then I took it home and put some kim chee on it. It was tasty but maybe not tasty enough. Maybe I should have put Spam and kim chee in it. OTOH Spam might be made from fatty liver.

http://tastyislandhawaii.com/2014/08...-teri-jr-jack/