"Millennials Kill Again. The Latest Victim? American Cheese"

By Lydia Mulvany and Leslie Patton

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...a-s-big-cheese

First paragraphs:

American cheese will never die. It has too many preservatives.

But its melting away.

One by one, Americas food outlets are abandoning the century-old American staple. In many cases, theyre replacing it with fancier cheeses.

Panera Four Cheese Grilled Cheese
Source: Panera Bread

Wendys is offering asiago. A&Ws Canada locations switched to real cheddar. McDonalds is selling the Big Macs soft, orange square of American cheese with a version that doesnt contain artificial preservatives. Cracker Barrel ditched its old-fashioned grilled cheese. So did Panera Bread, replacing American with a four-cheese combo of fontina, cheddar, monteau and smoked gouda. The result: higher sales.

American cheese is €œan ingredient were looking to less and less in our pantry,€� said Sara Burnett, the chains director of wellness and food policy...

(snip)


I never liked it - it sticks to your teeth!

And one time, when I asked the tall, stocky middle-aged man at the deli counter "what cheese ends do you have today" he kept balking - and asking "what type are you looking for for?" I finally said, coldly: "The reason I'm asking is, the last time I was here, someone tried to slip me American cheese when I SAID I didn't want it."


Lenona.

On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:

Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?

American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting properties.
Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!

I mean that is all sincerity. 8|

nb

"notbob" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>
> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>
> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting properties.
> Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>
> I mean that is all sincerity. 8|
>
> nb


I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.

Cheri

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:12:51 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

> "Millennials Kill Again. The Latest Victim? American Cheese"

And how many things have previous generations "killed"? Many of
them deserved to die. Look at any Betty Crocker cookbook from the
50's and 60's.

It's the manufacturers that have killed American Cheese with all the
cheapened fake shit - just like they're trying to do with hot dogs
and many other foods.

These articles are really boring. They're one step above
click-bait.

> American cheese will never die. It has too many preservatives.

Real American cheese doesn't have any preservatives.

-sw

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:35:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>>
>> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>>
>> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting properties.
>> Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>>
>> I mean that is all sincerity. 8|
>>
>> nb
>
>
>I like American cheese and use it often.

You guys perfected cheese, didn't you?

On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>
> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>
> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting properties.
> Â*Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>
> I mean that is all sincerity.Â* 8|
>
> nb

Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese. The
kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket. Not processed
American "cheese-food".

Jill

On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 3:58:58 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
> > On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
> >
> > Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
> >
> > American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting properties..
> > Â*Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
> >
> > I mean that is all sincerity.Â* 8|
> >
> > nb
>
> Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese. The
> kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket. Not processed
> American "cheese-food".
>
> Jill

I like mild cheeses, but American is just too rubbery for me. For
grilled cheese, I prefer a medium cheddar.

Cindy Hamilton

On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:

> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.
>
> Cheri

Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.

jmcquown > wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>>
>> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>>
>> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting properties.
>> Â*Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>>
>> I mean that is all sincerity.Â* 8|
>>
>> nb
>
> Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese. The
> kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket. Not processed
> American "cheese-food".
>
> Jill
>

Me too, but it saddens me how many people think American cheese is nothing
more than Kraft singles.

On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 2:35:44 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
>
> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.
>
> Cheri
>
Same here.

On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 2:38:02 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> These articles are really boring. They're one step above
> click-bait.
>
> -sw
>
Agree.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.

I used to use it more often. Now I use cheddar more often.

On 10/12/2018 4:05 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 3:58:58 PM UTC-4, Jill McQuown wrote:
>> On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>>>
>>> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting properties.
>>> Â*Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>>>
>>> I mean that is all sincerity.Â* 8|
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese. The
>> kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket. Not processed
>> American "cheese-food".
>>
>> Jill
>
> I like mild cheeses, but American is just too rubbery for me. For
> grilled cheese, I prefer a medium cheddar.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
For grilled cheese I prefer Swiss & pepperjack.

Jill

On 10/12/2018 4:10 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> jmcquown > wrote:
>> On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>>>
>>> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting properties.
>>> Â*Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>>>
>>> I mean that is all sincerity.Â* 8|
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese. The
>> kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket. Not processed
>> American "cheese-food".
>>
>> Jill
>>
>
> Me too, but it saddens me how many people think American cheese is nothing
> more than Kraft singles.
>
Sadly, that seems to be the case. American cheese isn't limited to
Kraft individually wrapped slices of plasticized cheese food.

I'm thrilled "young people" are discovering imported cheeses. But
that's not a reason to declare ware on *real* American cheese. I'm sure
lots of dairy farmers would agree with me.

Look at the places the article is talking about. Wendy's. Panera
Bread. I've eaten at Cracker Barrel but I never ordered their mac &
cheese. These are millenials who don't cook. Despite the article, they
don't get to dictate what's available for me to buy at the store.

Jill

On 10/12/2018 4:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.
>>
>> Cheri
>
> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.

The type of cheese depends on what I'm using it for.

Jill

"Brice" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:35:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
>>"notbob" > wrote in message
...
>>> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>>>
>>> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting properties.
>>> Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>>>
>>> I mean that is all sincerity. 8|
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>>
>>I like American cheese and use it often.
>
> You guys perfected cheese, didn't you?


No, we just improved it. ;-) Seriously, American cheese falls far behind
cheese from other parts of the world IMO, due to laws mostly.

Cheri

On 10/12/2018 6:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
>> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.
>
> I used to use it more often. Now I use cheddar more often.

I use [American] Cheddar, I use American (not the individually wrapped
slices, the kind you buy at the deli counter). I use Asiago, I use
Swiss, Gruyere, Fontina, Brie. It depends on what I'm cooking and the
usage for it.

Jill

On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:12:54 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> "Millennials Kill Again. The Latest Victim? American Cheese"
>
> By Lydia Mulvany and Leslie Patton
>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...a-s-big-cheese
>
> First paragraphs:
>
> American cheese will never die. It has too many preservatives.
>
> But its melting away.
>
> One by one, Americas food outlets are abandoning the century-old American staple. In many cases, theyre replacing it with fancier cheeses.
>
> Panera Four Cheese Grilled Cheese
> Source: Panera Bread
>
> Wendys is offering asiago. A&Ws Canada locations switched to real cheddar. McDonalds is selling the Big Macs soft, orange square of American cheese with a version that doesnt contain artificial preservatives. Cracker Barrel ditched its old-fashioned grilled cheese. So did Panera Bread, replacing American with a four-cheese combo of fontina, cheddar, monteau and smoked gouda. The result: higher sales.
>
> American cheese is €œan ingredient were looking to less and less in our pantry,€� said Sara Burnett, the chains director of wellness and food policy...
>
> (snip)
>
>
> I never liked it - it sticks to your teeth!
>
> And one time, when I asked the tall, stocky middle-aged man at the deli counter "what cheese ends do you have today" he kept balking - and asking "what type are you looking for for?" I finally said, coldly: "The reason I'm asking is, the last time I was here, someone tried to slip me American cheese when I SAID I didn't want it."
>
>
> Lenona.

Process cheese and American cheese was a product of its time. It was a way of extending cheese and turning it into a product that is easily transported, and was easy to cook with. It was cheap, had a long shelf life, and did not need any refrigeration. What's not to like?

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:51:27 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

>"Brice" > wrote in message
.. .
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:35:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I like American cheese and use it often.
>>
>> You guys perfected cheese, didn't you?
>
>No, we just improved it. ;-) Seriously, American cheese falls far behind
>cheese from other parts of the world IMO, due to laws mostly.

I don't know American cheeses, but I love French cheeses. Especially
the types that start talking to you when you look at them.

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 01:30:26 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Fri 12 Oct 2018 06:01:18p, Brice told us...
>
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:51:27 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Brice" > wrote in message
...
>>>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:35:25 -0700, "Cheri"
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I like American cheese and use it often.
>>>>
>>>> You guys perfected cheese, didn't you?
>>>
>>>No, we just improved it. ;-) Seriously, American cheese falls far
>>>behind cheese from other parts of the world IMO, due to laws
>>>mostly.
>>
>> I don't know American cheeses, but I love French cheeses.
>> Especially the types that start talking to you when you look at
>> them.
>>
>
>Do they always speak in French?

They're multilingual, but with a strong accent.

"l not -l" > wrote in message
...
>
> On 12-Oct-2018, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> > I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as
>> > well.
>> >
>> > Cheri
>>
>> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
>> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.
> That does it; all this cheese talk makes me want to have a grilled cheese
> sandwich for supper tonight. Land o' Lakes Sharp Cheddar-American Blend,
> on
> sprouted grain bread.

I've been craving English muffins, toasted with cheese, with or without a
tomato slice.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 10/12/2018 4:10 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>>>>
>>>> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting
>>>> properties.
>>>> Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>>>>
>>>> I mean that is all sincerity. 8|
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese. The
>>> kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket. Not processed
>>> American "cheese-food".
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>
>>
>> Me too, but it saddens me how many people think American cheese is
>> nothing
>> more than Kraft singles.
>>
> Sadly, that seems to be the case. American cheese isn't limited to Kraft
> individually wrapped slices of plasticized cheese food.
>
> I'm thrilled "young people" are discovering imported cheeses. But that's
> not a reason to declare ware on *real* American cheese. I'm sure lots of
> dairy farmers would agree with me.
>
> Look at the places the article is talking about. Wendy's. Panera Bread.
> I've eaten at Cracker Barrel but I never ordered their mac & cheese.
> These are millenials who don't cook. Despite the article, they don't get
> to dictate what's available for me to buy at the store.

I'm not a cheese snob although I have found a few to be too sharp or mild
for my tastes. I generally buy whatever I find the best deal on. If I get
something that's too sharp, I can mix it with mild or vice versa. I do keep
certain ones almost all the time. Those would be med. cheddar, Swiss, gouda,
mozzarella, Parmesan and Feta.

On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:12:18 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.
>>>
>>> Cheri
>>
>> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
>> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.
>
> I used to use it more often. Now I use cheddar more often.

Yet you're allergic to milk... Go figure.

-sw

Pamela wrote:
>
> I once brought some soft cheese back from Paris and it stank the fridge out
> so much I had to put it in the garage which it also stank out. When I ate
> it, it was surprisingly mild.

Sounds like a true case of TIAD to me.

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:57:41 +0100, Pamela >
wrote:

>On 03:59 13 Oct 2018, Brice > wrote in
:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 01:30:26 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Do they always speak in French?
>>
>> They're multilingual, but with a strong accent.
>
>They also have a strong pong!
>
>I once brought some soft cheese back from Paris and it stank the fridge out
>so much I had to put it in the garage which it also stank out. When I ate
>it, it was surprisingly mild.

Yes, they tend to taste better than they smell. Or else nobody would
eat them, I guess.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> I've been craving English muffins, toasted with cheese, with or without a
> tomato slice.

That sounds like a good quest!

On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 10:54:09 AM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 15:57:41 +0100, Pamela >
> wrote:
>
> >On 03:59 13 Oct 2018, Brice > wrote in
> :
> >
> >> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 01:30:26 -0000 (UTC), Wayne Boatwright
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>Do they always speak in French?
> >>
> >> They're multilingual, but with a strong accent.
> >
> >They also have a strong pong!
> >
> >I once brought some soft cheese back from Paris and it stank the fridge out
> >so much I had to put it in the garage which it also stank out. When I ate
> >it, it was surprisingly mild.
>
> Yes, they tend to taste better than they smell. Or else nobody would
> eat them, I guess.

Once when I was buying some Parmesan Reggiano the deli person told me when they are shredding Parm Reg that customers have remarked "What stinks?"

John Kuthe...

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:51:08 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Pamela wrote:
>>
>> I once brought some soft cheese back from Paris and it stank the fridge out
>> so much I had to put it in the garage which it also stank out. When I ate
>> it, it was surprisingly mild.
>
>Sounds like a true case of TIAD to me.

Great with a glass of wine and a pair of chopsticks.

I think kraft singles taste good if you let them warm to room temp.

On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 11:10:25 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> I think kraft singles taste good if you let them warm to room temp.

Kraft Singles are NOT CHEESE!

They are much like that which oozes from a can and is pasteurized processed cheese food spread! And SALTY.

John Kuthe...

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
> > On 10/12/2018 4:10 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> >>jmcquown > wrote:
> > > > On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
> > > > > On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign
> > > > > cheeses?
> > > > >
> > > > > American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting
> > > > > properties.
> >>>> Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean that is all sincerity. 8|
> > > > >
> > > > > nb
> > > >
> > > > Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese.
> > > > The kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket.
> > > > Not processed American "cheese-food".
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > > >
> > >
> > > Me too, but it saddens me how many people think American cheese
> > > is nothing more than Kraft singles.
> > >
> > Sadly, that seems to be the case. American cheese isn't limited to
> > Kraft individually wrapped slices of plasticized cheese food.
> >
> > I'm thrilled "young people" are discovering imported cheeses. But
> > that's not a reason to declare ware on real American cheese. I'm
> > sure lots of dairy farmers would agree with me.
> >
> > Look at the places the article is talking about. Wendy's. Panera
> > Bread. I've eaten at Cracker Barrel but I never ordered their mac
> > & cheese. These are millenials who don't cook. Despite the
> > article, they don't get to dictate what's available for me to buy
> > at the store.
>
> I'm not a cheese snob although I have found a few to be too sharp or
> mild for my tastes. I generally buy whatever I find the best deal on.
> If I get something that's too sharp, I can mix it with mild or vice
> versa. I do keep certain ones almost all the time. Those would be
> med. cheddar, Swiss, gouda, mozzarella, Parmesan and Feta.

I am a self admitted cheese snob but i stock the common things you list
as well.

Meantime, a bean pot!

So it's a little chilly and feels right.

16oz White beans
1.5lbs 'seasoning meat' from the Farmers Market (foot of Dam Neck)
1 large onion
1TB minced dried garlic
3ts granulated roasted garlic
2ts garlic salt
2ts Tandoori blend seasoning (fairly spicy)
Water to cover plus 2 inches for now, add more at need later

Set in crock pot on high for now. Totally sniffilicious!

On 10/12/2018 11:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 10/12/2018 4:10 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>>> On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>>> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>>>>>
>>>>> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting
>>>>> properties.
>>>>> Â*Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>>>>>
>>>>> I mean that is all sincerity. 8|
>>>>>
>>>>> nb
>>>>
>>>> Meltability is a good thing. Â* I like actual American cheese.Â* The
>>>> kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket.Â* Not processed
>>>> American "cheese-food".
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>
>>> Me too, but it saddens me how many people think American cheese is
>>> nothing
>>> more than Kraft singles.
>>>
>>
>> I'm thrilled "young people" are discovering imported cheeses.Â* But
>> that's not a reason to declare war on *real* American cheese.Â* I'm
>> sure lots of dairy farmers would agree with me.
>>
>> Look at the places the article is talking about.Â* Wendy's.Â* Panera
>> Bread. I've eaten at Cracker Barrel but I never ordered their mac &
>> cheese. These are millenials who don't cook.Â* Despite the article,
>> they don't get to dictate what's available for me to buy at the store.
>
> I'm not a cheese snob although I have found a few to be too sharp or
> mild for my tastes. I generally buy whatever I find the best deal on. If
> I get something that's too sharp, I can mix it with mild or vice versa.
> I do keep certain ones almost all the time. Those would be med. cheddar,
> Swiss, gouda, mozzarella, Parmesan and Feta.

It wasn't all that long ago you claimed you couldn't *find* Swiss cheese
in the stores near Bothell. You seemed to think there was some sort of
shortage. I guess they've straightened that out. Now you're a cheese
maven.

Jill

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> I've been craving English muffins, toasted with cheese, with or without a
>> tomato slice.
>
> That sounds like a good quest!

Delish.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
...
> On 10/12/2018 11:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>> news
>>> On 10/12/2018 4:10 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>> On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting
>>>>>> properties.
>>>>>> Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean that is all sincerity. 8|
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nb
>>>>>
>>>>> Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese. The
>>>>> kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket. Not processed
>>>>> American "cheese-food".
>>>>>
>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Me too, but it saddens me how many people think American cheese is
>>>> nothing
>>>> more than Kraft singles.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm thrilled "young people" are discovering imported cheeses. But that's
>>> not a reason to declare war on *real* American cheese. I'm sure lots of
>>> dairy farmers would agree with me.
>>>
>>> Look at the places the article is talking about. Wendy's. Panera Bread.
>>> I've eaten at Cracker Barrel but I never ordered their mac & cheese.
>>> These are millenials who don't cook. Despite the article, they don't get
>>> to dictate what's available for me to buy at the store.
>>
>> I'm not a cheese snob although I have found a few to be too sharp or mild
>> for my tastes. I generally buy whatever I find the best deal on. If I get
>> something that's too sharp, I can mix it with mild or vice versa. I do
>> keep certain ones almost all the time. Those would be med. cheddar,
>> Swiss, gouda, mozzarella, Parmesan and Feta.
>
> It wasn't all that long ago you claimed you couldn't *find* Swiss cheese
> in the stores near Bothell. You seemed to think there was some sort of
> shortage. I guess they've straightened that out. Now you're a cheese
> maven.

I can find it now. Where I couldn't find it was when I lived on Staten
Island. Some of the grocery stores here are small and don't stock a lot of
variety. I must have looked at one of those. Winco has their own Swiss in
blocks. Cheap and good.

"Sqwertz" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:12:18 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>
>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> Cheri
>>>
>>> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
>>> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.
>>
>> I used to use it more often. Now I use cheddar more often.
>
> Yet you're allergic to milk... Go figure.

I was never allergic to milk. I have food intolerances that come and go.
Currently only eggs. My Dr. wanted me to avoid dairy for a problem I won't
get into here. Dairy was *not* the problem. The problem was my Dr. not doing
the correct test. I am seeing a specialist now and eating dairy.

Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/12/2018 11:56 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
>>>
>>> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
>>> news >>>> On 10/12/2018 4:10 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>>>>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>>>>> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting
>>>>>>> properties.
>>>>>>> Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I mean that is all sincerity. 8|
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nb
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese. The
>>>>>> kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket. Not
>>>>>> processed
>>>>>> American "cheese-food".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Me too, but it saddens me how many people think American cheese is
>>>>> nothing
>>>>> more than Kraft singles.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm thrilled "young people" are discovering imported cheeses. But
>>>> that's not a reason to declare war on *real* American cheese. I'm
>>>> sure lots of dairy farmers would agree with me.
>>>>
>>>> Look at the places the article is talking about. Wendy's. Panera
>>>> Bread. I've eaten at Cracker Barrel but I never ordered their mac &
>>>> cheese. These are millenials who don't cook. Despite the article,
>>>> they don't get to dictate what's available for me to buy at the store.
>>>
>>> I'm not a cheese snob although I have found a few to be too sharp or
>>> mild for my tastes. I generally buy whatever I find the best deal on.
>>> If I get something that's too sharp, I can mix it with mild or vice
>>> versa. I do keep certain ones almost all the time. Those would be
>>> med. cheddar, Swiss, gouda, mozzarella, Parmesan and Feta.
>>
>> It wasn't all that long ago you claimed you couldn't *find* Swiss
>> cheese in the stores near Bothell. You seemed to think there was some
>> sort of shortage. I guess they've straightened that out. Now you're
>> a cheese maven.
>
> I can find it now. Where I couldn't find it was when I lived on Staten
> Island. Some of the grocery stores here are small and don't stock a lot
> of variety. I must have looked at one of those. Winco has their own
> Swiss in blocks. Cheap and good.

Yeah, there's like what ... 25 people in bothell. You'll have to go to
Seattle for cheese.

On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 18:05:24 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> "Sqwertz" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:12:18 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:
>>
>>> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as
>>>>> well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheri
>>>>
>>>> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
>>>> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.
>>>
>>> I used to use it more often. Now I use cheddar more often.
>>
>> Yet you're allergic to milk... Go figure.
>
> I was never allergic to milk. I have food intolerances that come and go.
> Currently only eggs. My Dr. wanted me to avoid dairy for a problem I won't
> get into here. Dairy was *not* the problem. The problem was my Dr. not doing
> the correct test. I am seeing a specialist now and eating dairy.

And you wonder why nobody believes anything you say.

-sw

One thing to think about is that on cooking shows on TV, they never, ever, use American cheese when making some sort of dish. I've never seen Emeril or Alton Brown make a cheese sauce out of American Cheese. It's always Cheddar or Swiss or some other type of cheese, never American. Even when making a cheeseburger, they always put anything but American cheese on it. Many restaurants, I would think, would not even keep American cheese on hand, because even if you order a grilled cheese or a ham and cheese omelette, it's probably Cheddar or Swiss (if you so desire) on it. Even for a Club sandwich, most restaurants probably put Cheddar on it. Personally, I doubt I've knowingly eaten American cheese in 20 years. I think most people associate American cheese with the cheese wrapped in plastic and with processed stuff like Velveeta.

"cshenk" wrote in message
...

Julie Bove wrote:

>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
> > On 10/12/2018 4:10 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
> >>jmcquown > wrote:
> > > > On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
> > > > > On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign
> > > > > cheeses?
> > > > >
> > > > > American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting
> > > > > properties.
> >>>> Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
> > > > >
> > > > > I mean that is all sincerity. 8|
> > > > >
> > > > > nb
> > > >
> > > > Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese.
> > > > The kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket.
> > > > Not processed American "cheese-food".
> > > >
> > > > Jill
> > > >
> > >
> > > Me too, but it saddens me how many people think American cheese
> > > is nothing more than Kraft singles.
> > >
> > Sadly, that seems to be the case. American cheese isn't limited to
> > Kraft individually wrapped slices of plasticized cheese food.
> >
> > I'm thrilled "young people" are discovering imported cheeses. But
> > that's not a reason to declare ware on real American cheese. I'm
> > sure lots of dairy farmers would agree with me.
> >
> > Look at the places the article is talking about. Wendy's. Panera
> > Bread. I've eaten at Cracker Barrel but I never ordered their mac
> > & cheese. These are millenials who don't cook. Despite the
> > article, they don't get to dictate what's available for me to buy
> > at the store.
>
> I'm not a cheese snob although I have found a few to be too sharp or
> mild for my tastes. I generally buy whatever I find the best deal on.
> If I get something that's too sharp, I can mix it with mild or vice
> versa. I do keep certain ones almost all the time. Those would be
> med. cheddar, Swiss, gouda, mozzarella, Parmesan and Feta.

I am a self admitted cheese snob but i stock the common things you list
as well.

Meantime, a bean pot!

So it's a little chilly and feels right.

16oz White beans
1.5lbs 'seasoning meat' from the Farmers Market (foot of Dam Neck)
1 large onion
1TB minced dried garlic
3ts granulated roasted garlic
2ts garlic salt
2ts Tandoori blend seasoning (fairly spicy)
Water to cover plus 2 inches for now, add more at need later

Set in crock pot on high for now. Totally sniffilicious!
==

Please describe 'seasoning meat'?


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Brice wrote:
>
> On Sat, 13 Oct 2018 11:51:08 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
> >Pamela wrote:
> >>
> >> I once brought some soft cheese back from Paris and it stank the fridge out
> >> so much I had to put it in the garage which it also stank out. When I ate
> >> it, it was surprisingly mild.
> >
> >Sounds like a true case of TIAD to me.
>
> Great with a glass of wine and a pair of chopsticks.

Yep...that would probably work.