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"Millennials Kill Again. The Latest Victim? American Cheese"

By Lydia Mulvany and Leslie Patton

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...a-s-big-cheese

First paragraphs:

American cheese will never die. It has too many preservatives.

But its melting away.

One by one, Americas food outlets are abandoning the century-old American staple. In many cases, theyre replacing it with fancier cheeses.

Panera Four Cheese Grilled Cheese
Source: Panera Bread

Wendys is offering asiago. A&Ws Canada locations switched to real cheddar. McDonalds is selling the Big Macs soft, orange square of American cheese with a version that doesnt contain artificial preservatives. Cracker Barrel ditched its old-fashioned grilled cheese. So did Panera Bread, replacing American with a four-cheese combo of fontina, cheddar, monteau and smoked gouda. The result: higher sales.

American cheese is €śan ingredient were looking to less and less in our pantry,€ť said Sara Burnett, the chains director of wellness and food policy...

(snip)


I never liked it - it sticks to your teeth!

And one time, when I asked the tall, stocky middle-aged man at the deli counter "what cheese ends do you have today" he kept balking - and asking "what type are you looking for for?" I finally said, coldly: "The reason I'm asking is, the last time I was here, someone tried to slip me American cheese when I SAID I didn't want it."


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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 16:51:27 -0700, "Cheri" >
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>"Brice" > wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 12:35:25 -0700, "Cheri" >
>> wrote:
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>>>I like American cheese and use it often.

>>
>> You guys perfected cheese, didn't you?

>
>No, we just improved it. ;-) Seriously, American cheese falls far behind
>cheese from other parts of the world IMO, due to laws mostly.


I don't know American cheeses, but I love French cheeses. Especially
the types that start talking to you when you look at them.
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On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:

> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.
>
> Cheri


Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.
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> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
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>> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.
>>
>> Cheri

>
> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.


I used to use it more often. Now I use cheddar more often.

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On 10/12/2018 6:12 PM, Julie Bove wrote:
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> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
>> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.

>
> I used to use it more often. Now I use cheddar more often.


I use [American] Cheddar, I use American (not the individually wrapped
slices, the kind you buy at the deli counter). I use Asiago, I use
Swiss, Gruyere, Fontina, Brie. It depends on what I'm cooking and the
usage for it.

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On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 15:12:18 -0700, Julie Bove wrote:

> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in message
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>> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>>> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.
>>>
>>> Cheri

>>
>> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
>> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.

>
> I used to use it more often. Now I use cheddar more often.


Yet you're allergic to milk... Go figure.

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On 10/12/2018 4:10 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>
>> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.
>>
>> Cheri

>
> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.


The type of cheese depends on what I'm using it for.

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> On 12-Oct-2018, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 10/12/2018 3:35 PM, Cheri wrote:
>>
>> > I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as
>> > well.
>> >
>> > Cheri

>>
>> Used to use it all the time, now I will buy some of the others like a
>> sharp cheddar or a 4 cheese blend that is good.

> That does it; all this cheese talk makes me want to have a grilled cheese
> sandwich for supper tonight. Land o' Lakes Sharp Cheddar-American Blend,
> on
> sprouted grain bread.


I've been craving English muffins, toasted with cheese, with or without a
tomato slice.

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> I've been craving English muffins, toasted with cheese, with or without a
> tomato slice.


That sounds like a good quest!
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On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 2:35:44 PM UTC-5, Cheri wrote:
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> I like American cheese and use it often. I do like other cheeses as well.
>
> Cheri
>

Same here.

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> On 10/12/2018 4:10 PM, Jinx the Minx wrote:
>> jmcquown > wrote:
>>> On 10/12/2018 3:32 PM, notbob wrote:
>>>> On 10/12/2018 1:12 PM, wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Izzit any wonder Americans are buying more and more foreign cheeses?
>>>>
>>>> American cheese is good for only one thing .....it's melting
>>>> properties.
>>>> Otherwise, American cheese SUCKS!
>>>>
>>>> I mean that is all sincerity. 8|
>>>>
>>>> nb
>>>
>>> Meltability is a good thing. I like actual American cheese. The
>>> kind you can get in the deli section of the supermarket. Not processed
>>> American "cheese-food".
>>>
>>> Jill
>>>

>>
>> Me too, but it saddens me how many people think American cheese is
>> nothing
>> more than Kraft singles.
>>

> Sadly, that seems to be the case. American cheese isn't limited to Kraft
> individually wrapped slices of plasticized cheese food.
>
> I'm thrilled "young people" are discovering imported cheeses. But that's
> not a reason to declare ware on *real* American cheese. I'm sure lots of
> dairy farmers would agree with me.
>
> Look at the places the article is talking about. Wendy's. Panera Bread.
> I've eaten at Cracker Barrel but I never ordered their mac & cheese.
> These are millenials who don't cook. Despite the article, they don't get
> to dictate what's available for me to buy at the store.


I'm not a cheese snob although I have found a few to be too sharp or mild
for my tastes. I generally buy whatever I find the best deal on. If I get
something that's too sharp, I can mix it with mild or vice versa. I do keep
certain ones almost all the time. Those would be med. cheddar, Swiss, gouda,
mozzarella, Parmesan and Feta.



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l not -l wrote:

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> On 15-Oct-2018, wrote:
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> > On Monday, October 15, 2018 at 11:11:43 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > >
> > > When cooking beans 'seasoning meat' likely
> > > refers to smoked meat; ham/hocks.
> > >

> > Yes, smoke ham hocks; it does wonders for beans and greens.

> I had never seen meat labeled as seasoning meat; but, Friday I did
> see, and buy, a package of "ham seasoning". It is approx. one inch
> cubes of ham, which I guess were cut from scrap ends of ham. Another
> store always has "bacon scraps", ragged cuts from the ends of slabs
> sold at the "service meat" counter.
>
> I consider seasoning meat to be flavorful bits of smoked meats; my
> favorites, in order of preference, are pork shanks, tasso, jowl,
> bacon and ham hocks.


That would work for me! This is a simple local spicey spoked version.
Might be pork belly related but seems lean overall in looks.
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> These articles are really boring. They're one step above
> click-bait.
>
> -sw
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Agree.

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On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:12:54 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> "Millennials Kill Again. The Latest Victim? American Cheese"
>
> By Lydia Mulvany and Leslie Patton
>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...a-s-big-cheese
>
> First paragraphs:
>
> American cheese will never die. It has too many preservatives.
>
> But its melting away.
>
> One by one, Americas food outlets are abandoning the century-old American staple. In many cases, theyre replacing it with fancier cheeses.
>
> Panera Four Cheese Grilled Cheese
> Source: Panera Bread
>
> Wendys is offering asiago. A&Ws Canada locations switched to real cheddar. McDonalds is selling the Big Macs soft, orange square of American cheese with a version that doesnt contain artificial preservatives. Cracker Barrel ditched its old-fashioned grilled cheese. So did Panera Bread, replacing American with a four-cheese combo of fontina, cheddar, monteau and smoked gouda. The result: higher sales.
>
> American cheese is €śan ingredient were looking to less and less in our pantry,€ť said Sara Burnett, the chains director of wellness and food policy...
>
> (snip)
>
>
> I never liked it - it sticks to your teeth!
>
> And one time, when I asked the tall, stocky middle-aged man at the deli counter "what cheese ends do you have today" he kept balking - and asking "what type are you looking for for?" I finally said, coldly: "The reason I'm asking is, the last time I was here, someone tried to slip me American cheese when I SAID I didn't want it."
>
>
> Lenona.


Process cheese and American cheese was a product of its time. It was a way of extending cheese and turning it into a product that is easily transported, and was easy to cook with. It was cheap, had a long shelf life, and did not need any refrigeration. What's not to like?
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I think kraft singles taste good if you let them warm to room temp.


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On Saturday, October 13, 2018 at 11:10:25 AM UTC-5, wrote:
> I think kraft singles taste good if you let them warm to room temp.


Kraft Singles are NOT CHEESE!

They are much like that which oozes from a can and is pasteurized processed cheese food spread! And SALTY.

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One thing to think about is that on cooking shows on TV, they never, ever, use American cheese when making some sort of dish. I've never seen Emeril or Alton Brown make a cheese sauce out of American Cheese. It's always Cheddar or Swiss or some other type of cheese, never American. Even when making a cheeseburger, they always put anything but American cheese on it. Many restaurants, I would think, would not even keep American cheese on hand, because even if you order a grilled cheese or a ham and cheese omelette, it's probably Cheddar or Swiss (if you so desire) on it. Even for a Club sandwich, most restaurants probably put Cheddar on it. Personally, I doubt I've knowingly eaten American cheese in 20 years. I think most people associate American cheese with the cheese wrapped in plastic and with processed stuff like Velveeta.
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On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 2:12:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> "Millennials Kill Again. The Latest Victim? American Cheese"
>
> By Lydia Mulvany and Leslie Patton
>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...a-s-big-cheese
>
> First paragraphs:
>
> American cheese will never die. It has too many preservatives.
>
> But its melting away.
>
> One by one, Americas food outlets are abandoning the century-old American staple. In many cases, theyre replacing it with fancier cheeses.
>
> Panera Four Cheese Grilled Cheese
> Source: Panera Bread
>
> Wendys is offering asiago.


Cheese if forced on all burgers at Wendy's. No plain burger without cheese that costs less. That's why I patronize Shake Shack instead.

Also my breakfast place uses Kraft american as an ingredient "glue" in omelettes. It takes longer to cook if I ask for no-cheese. Since I am paying the same price as a cheese based order, I grab extra take home paper napkins in lieu of the foregone yellow arterial clogger.
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On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 8:26:13 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 2:12:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > "Millennials Kill Again. The Latest Victim? American Cheese"
> >
> > By Lydia Mulvany and Leslie Patton
> >
> > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...a-s-big-cheese
> >
> > First paragraphs:
> >
> > American cheese will never die. It has too many preservatives.
> >
> > But its melting away.
> >
> > One by one, Americas food outlets are abandoning the century-old American staple. In many cases, theyre replacing it with fancier cheeses.
> >
> > Panera Four Cheese Grilled Cheese
> > Source: Panera Bread
> >
> > Wendys is offering asiago.

>
> Cheese if forced on all burgers at Wendy's. No plain burger without cheese that costs less. That's why I patronize Shake Shack instead.
>
> Also my breakfast place uses Kraft american as an ingredient "glue" in omelettes. It takes longer to cook if I ask for no-cheese. Since I am paying the same price as a cheese based order, I grab extra take home paper napkins in lieu of the foregone yellow arterial clogger.


If you think the cost of ingredients entitles you to a lower price on
an order that requires extra labor, perhaps you should stop going to
restaurants.

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On Wednesday, December 19, 2018 at 5:00:31 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 8:26:13 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 2:12:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
> > > "Millennials Kill Again. The Latest Victim? American Cheese"
> > >
> > > By Lydia Mulvany and Leslie Patton
> > >
> > > https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...a-s-big-cheese
> > >
> > > First paragraphs:
> > >
> > > American cheese will never die. It has too many preservatives.
> > >
> > > But its melting away.
> > >
> > > One by one, Americas food outlets are abandoning the century-old American staple. In many cases, theyre replacing it with fancier cheeses.
> > >
> > > Panera Four Cheese Grilled Cheese
> > > Source: Panera Bread
> > >
> > > Wendys is offering asiago.

> >
> > Cheese if forced on all burgers at Wendy's. No plain burger without cheese that costs less. That's why I patronize Shake Shack instead.
> >
> > Also my breakfast place uses Kraft american as an ingredient "glue" in omelettes. It takes longer to cook if I ask for no-cheese. Since I am paying the same price as a cheese based order, I grab extra take home paper napkins in lieu of the foregone yellow arterial clogger.

>
> If you think the cost of ingredients entitles you to a lower price on
> an order that requires extra labor, perhaps you should stop going to
> restaurants.
>
> Cindy Hamilton


Its not extra labor to avoid placing a cheese slice, its less labor and less ingredients. Somehow Shake Shack and even McDonalds manage to offer a plain burger and higher priced cheeseburger. I use to go to a local downtown Chicago chain named M-Burger but they changed their menu and dropped the lower priced burger.

As for cooking omelettes, it just sits on the griddle longer while the cook starts another order. Again, less labor to place a cheese slice and less ingredient cost. Sometimes I'll order the special with Feta cheese because it includes toast.


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On 2018-12-19 10:18 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I've been saying "no cheese" all my life. I don't see why it
> bothers you and jgrove24.
>
> The only time I have cheese on a burger is my decennial Big Mac.
> It's so flavorless that it just doesn't matter.


I have had cheeseburgers in the past, an usually ended up suffering from
it, so just don't do it anymore. I have made exceptions for blue
cheese. If I order a burger in a restaurant they usually try to up sell
me to a cheeseburger but I don't see the point in paying extra for
something that is likely to be a negative experience.

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On 2018-12-19, l not -l > wrote:

> ,,,,, I simply like hamburgers much better than
> cheeseburgers, except a change of pace patty melt.


That's it, isn't it? What do you WANT!

With me, it's the quality of cheese at a particular location.
In-and-Out Burger, I wouldn't even think about ordering w/o cheese.
Gotta be a Double-Double, at the very least. Double-Beef, Double
Cheese. Anywhere else and I'd be asking fer jes a burger, please.
Be checkin' out the cheese on the sly (patty melt).

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On 23 Dec 2018 notbob wrote:
>On 2018-12-19, l not wrote:
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>>I simply like hamburgers much better than
>>cheeseburgers, except a change of pace patty melt.

>
>That's it, isn't it? What do you WANT!
>
>With me, it's the quality of cheese at a particular location.
>In-and-Out Burger, I wouldn't even think about ordering w/o cheese.
>Gotta be a Double-Double, at the very least. Double-Beef, Double
>Cheese. Anywhere else and I'd be asking fer jes a burger, please.
>Be checkin' out the cheese on the sly (patty melt).


Huh? All fast foods and most eateries serve mystery meat burgers and
cheese food (not even a dairy product). Only real difference is some
eateries serve a better bun.
Many years ago when I was a kid growing up in Brooklyn prior to the
advent of preformed frozen burgers restaurants ordered ground beef
from a nearby butcher fresh every day and made their own by hand,
never premade or frozen. Buns were ordered from a nearby bakery, made
fresh every day. Fancy schmancy restaurants and luncheonettes did
likewise. After my paper route I'd stop at Sid's Luncheonette for a
burger, Sid used an icecream scoop to measure out a burger and quickly
formed it by hand and slapped it on the griddle. Could have any roll
from an assortment in a glass case on the counter; Kaiser, onion,
sesame. plain. A burger was 25˘, came with a spear of real fermented
pickle and could have a slab of Bermuda onyon if desired. Sids hands
were scrupulously clean from hand washing glasses and plates all day.




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On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 9:12:54 AM UTC-10, wrote:
> "Millennials Kill Again. The Latest Victim? American Cheese"
>
> By Lydia Mulvany and Leslie Patton
>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...a-s-big-cheese
>
> First paragraphs:
>
> American cheese will never die. It has too many preservatives.
>
> But its melting away.
>
> One by one, Americas food outlets are abandoning the century-old American staple. In many cases, theyre replacing it with fancier cheeses.
>
> Panera Four Cheese Grilled Cheese
> Source: Panera Bread
>
> Wendys is offering asiago. A&Ws Canada locations switched to real cheddar. McDonalds is selling the Big Macs soft, orange square of American cheese with a version that doesnt contain artificial preservatives. Cracker Barrel ditched its old-fashioned grilled cheese. So did Panera Bread, replacing American with a four-cheese combo of fontina, cheddar, monteau and smoked gouda. The result: higher sales.
>
> American cheese is €śan ingredient were looking to less and less in our pantry,€ť said Sara Burnett, the chains director of wellness and food policy...
>
> (snip)
>
>
> I never liked it - it sticks to your teeth!
>
> And one time, when I asked the tall, stocky middle-aged man at the deli counter "what cheese ends do you have today" he kept balking - and asking "what type are you looking for for?" I finally said, coldly: "The reason I'm asking is, the last time I was here, someone tried to slip me American cheese when I SAID I didn't want it."
>
>
> Lenona.


I was surprised to find some Velveeta Mini-blocks in the fridge. My daughter bought it. She says that she got it to melt on broccoli. That should be interesting. The Mini Blocks are 4 oz slabs of individually wrapped cheese substance. Sliced Velveeta is the greatest invention since sliced bread. Making it a handy size might be the only thing needed to make this product relevant to a younger generation.
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