On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 8:52:15 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > Turns out: a Thanksgiving Feast was "celebrated" after a colonizing tribe SLAUGHTERED everyone in a town the brutally TOOK OVER, then they RAIDED all the slaughtered people homes and STOLE ALL THEIR FOOD and ATE IT!! :-(
> >
> > :-(
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> Where the hell did you hear that? Stephen King novel?
>
A vision came to him after he took a hit off his crack pipe.

On 2018-10-07 3:26 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Sat 06 Oct 2018 11:54:20a, Dave Smith told us...

>> Now I get to take the dogs for a walk while my wife mops the
>> floor, makes a salad and makes up a fruit platter.
>>
>> Happy Thanksgiving.
>>
>
> A belated Happy Thansgiving! Your dinner sounds simple and
> delicious!
>

Thanks. Everything turned out nicely. Now I am working on leftovers. I
am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
with a turkey sandwich for supper.

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 11:27:43 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-10-07 9:53 AM, Gary wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> >>
> >> Turns out: a Thanksgiving Feast was "celebrated" after a colonizing tribe SLAUGHTERED everyone in a town the brutally TOOK OVER, then they RAIDED all the slaughtered people homes and STOLE ALL THEIR FOOD and ATE IT!! :-(
> >>
> >> :-(
> >>
> >> John Kuthe...
> >
> > Where the hell did you hear that? Stephen King novel?
> >
>
> It happened in the world of Kuthe, a very scary place.

True story! We are fed pablum, not the facts.

John Kuthe...

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 2:36:45 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> > It's just so much easier on everybody, no matter their age, if
> > everybody can bring a dish or two. Nice variety, nobody is worked to
> > death cooking, and nobody is in the poor house when the meal is
> > finished.
>
> We do that too here. It's early for us but some very basic plans are
> going out to see who's looking for a simple at home meal.
>
> Last year was about 6-8 folks but this year might be 18. Hard to tell
> yet but everyone brings a dish or something they can afford.
>
Unless a tragedy befalls my family we meet at my sister-in-law's house
30 miles away. I always take a ham and whatever is requested. Some-
times it's a dessert or soft drinks or bread. Just whatever and there's
anywhere from 15-20 people there depending if great and great-great
nephews can be pried off their sofas at home.

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Now I am working on leftovers. I
> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
> with a turkey sandwich for supper.
>
Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
an apoplexy, don't answer.

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-10-07 3:26 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> > On Sat 06 Oct 2018 11:54:20a, Dave Smith told us...
>
> >> Now I get to take the dogs for a walk while my wife mops the
> >> floor, makes a salad and makes up a fruit platter.
> >>
> >> Happy Thanksgiving.
> >>
> >
> > A belated Happy Thansgiving! Your dinner sounds simple and
> > delicious!
> >
>
> Thanks. Everything turned out nicely. Now I am working on leftovers. I
> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
> with a turkey sandwich for supper.

That's one of the best things about roasting a turkey! Once when I lived in what I call The Big House I used to have my family's Thanksgiving dinners and I'd divvy up the leftovers the next day and I'd make up Thanksgiving Dinner Leftovers for them, making foil packets out of white and dark meat turkey, and plastic containers of all the other goodies! Gravy, stuffing, garlic potatoes, sweet potatoes, home made cranberry sauce, etc. And PIE!!!

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...& oe=5C488410

John Kuthe...

"John Kuthe" > wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 11:27:43 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-10-07 9:53 AM, Gary wrote:
>> > John Kuthe wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Turns out: a Thanksgiving Feast was "celebrated" after a colonizing
>> >> tribe SLAUGHTERED everyone in a town the brutally TOOK OVER, then they
>> >> RAIDED all the slaughtered people homes and STOLE ALL THEIR FOOD and
>> >> ATE IT!! :-(
>> >>
>> >> :-(
>> >>
>> >> John Kuthe...
>> >
>> > Where the hell did you hear that? Stephen King novel?
>> >
>>
>> It happened in the world of Kuthe, a very scary place.
>
> True story! We are fed pablum, not the facts.
>
> John Kuthe...


Only you know the true facts though, right? LOL

Cheri

On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> Now I am working on leftovers. I
>> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
>> with a turkey sandwich for supper.
>>
> Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
> an apoplexy, don't answer.
>

Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
abomination.
..

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
>
> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
> >
>
> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made, not that canned
> abomination.
>
That's why I asked and you better sit down as I love the canned jellied
variety. M-m-m-m-m-m

wrote:

> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 2:36:45 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It's just so much easier on everybody, no matter their age, if
> > > everybody can bring a dish or two. Nice variety, nobody is
> > > worked to death cooking, and nobody is in the poor house when the
> > > meal is finished.
> >
> > We do that too here. It's early for us but some very basic plans
> > are going out to see who's looking for a simple at home meal.
> >
> > Last year was about 6-8 folks but this year might be 18. Hard to
> > tell yet but everyone brings a dish or something they can afford.
> >
> Unless a tragedy befalls my family we meet at my sister-in-law's house
> 30 miles away. I always take a ham and whatever is requested. Some-
> times it's a dessert or soft drinks or bread. Just whatever and
> there's anywhere from 15-20 people there depending if great and
> great-great nephews can be pried off their sofas at home.

Smile, although Don and I had extended families, they were mostly
elderly and long gone now. We've been making our fun locally for years
with our neighbors.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > Now I am working on leftovers. I
> > > am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of
> > > that with a turkey sandwich for supper.
> > >
> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to
> > cause an apoplexy, don't answer.
> >
>
> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
> abomination. .

WAAHH! I LIKE the canned stuff! It's traditional in my family! Ok,
I'll go hide and munch some of the canned stuff in my corner.

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>
> >> Now I am working on leftovers. I
> >> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
> >> with a turkey sandwich for supper.
> >>
> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
> >
>
> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
> abomination.
> .

I know! It was funny because in the 1990's my father, sister and I would shop for the stuffs to make Thanksgiving Dinner and after being raised on the gelatinous slime that slid out of the cans of cranberry sauce as we were in the produce dept my sister picks up a bag of cranberries and said Hey we should try this! And we did and we never went back!

John Kuthe...

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 9:11:57 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
> > On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
> > > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Now I am working on leftovers. I
> > > > am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of
> > > > that with a turkey sandwich for supper.
> > > >
> > > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to
> > > cause an apoplexy, don't answer.
> > >
> >
> > Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
> > abomination. .
>
> WAAHH! I LIKE the canned stuff! It's traditional in my family! Ok,
> I'll go hide and munch some of the canned stuff in my corner.

You can have ALL of mine!

I;ll make my own out of cranberries, sugar and water and some Chambord just to be delicious!

John Kuthe...

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
>> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Now I am working on leftovers. I
>> >> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
>> >> with a turkey sandwich for supper.
>> >>
>> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
>> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
>> >
>>
>> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
>> abomination.
>> .
>
>I know! It was funny because in the 1990's my father, sister and I would shop for the stuffs to make Thanksgiving Dinner and after being raised on the gelatinous slime that slid out of the cans of cranberry sauce as we were in the produce dept my sister picks up a bag of cranberries and said Hey we should try this! And we did and we never went back!

So basically, cranberries are too tart to eat, so you have to add lots
of sugar until you can't taste them anymore. And then you say you love
cranberries.

Is that the idea?

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 9:25:35 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Now I am working on leftovers. I
> >> >> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
> >> >> with a turkey sandwich for supper.
> >> >>
> >> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
> >> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
> >> abomination.
> >> .
> >
> >I know! It was funny because in the 1990's my father, sister and I would shop for the stuffs to make Thanksgiving Dinner and after being raised on the gelatinous slime that slid out of the cans of cranberry sauce as we were in the produce dept my sister picks up a bag of cranberries and said Hey we should try this! And we did and we never went back!
>
> So basically, cranberries are too tart to eat, so you have to add lots
> of sugar until you can't taste them anymore. And then you say you love
> cranberries.
>
> Is that the idea?

Um, NO!! Yes cranberries are very tart which is why they need so much sugar! And when their tartness is balanced with the sugar it's cranberry heaven! And the Chambord is just over the top delicious!

John Kuthe...

wrote:

> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
> >
> > > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going
> > > to cause an apoplexy, don't answer.
> > >
> >
> > Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made, not that
> > canned abomination.
> >
> That's why I asked and you better sit down as I love the canned
> jellied variety. M-m-m-m-m-m

Grin, me too! I made the fresh stuff. It's fine in it's place but I
like the canned better.

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:56:19 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 9:25:35 PM UTC-5, Brice wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
>> >> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
>> >> >
>> >> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
>> >> abomination.
>> >> .
>> >I know! It was funny because in the 1990's my father, sister and I would shop for the stuffs to make Thanksgiving Dinner and after being raised on the gelatinous slime that slid out of the cans of cranberry sauce as we were in the produce dept my sister picks up a bag of cranberries and said Hey we should try this! And we did and we never went back!
>>
>> So basically, cranberries are too tart to eat, so you have to add lots
>> of sugar until you can't taste them anymore. And then you say you love
>> cranberries.
>>
>> Is that the idea?
>
>Um, NO!! Yes cranberries are very tart which is why they need so much sugar! And when their tartness is balanced with the sugar it's cranberry heaven! And the Chambord is just over the top delicious!

I'm not a fan of sweet alcohol. I wonder what a Chambord hangover
would be like. Feeling like a sick fairy?

On 10/7/2018 11:16 PM, Brice wrote:

>>> So basically, cranberries are too tart to eat, so you have to add lots
>>> of sugar until you can't taste them anymore. And then you say you love
>>> cranberries.
>>>
>>> Is that the idea?
>>
>> Um, NO!! Yes cranberries are very tart which is why they need so much sugar! And when their tartness is balanced with the sugar it's cranberry heaven! And the Chambord is just over the top delicious!
>
> I'm not a fan of sweet alcohol. I wonder what a Chambord hangover
> would be like. Feeling like a sick fairy?
>

You'd probably get sick before you got drunk. Chambord is a nice
flavoring for things like sauteed carrots or the cranberry but sipping
more than an ounce is too sweet.

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 23:41:00 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 10/7/2018 11:16 PM, Brice wrote:
>
>>>> So basically, cranberries are too tart to eat, so you have to add lots
>>>> of sugar until you can't taste them anymore. And then you say you love
>>>> cranberries.
>>>>
>>>> Is that the idea?
>>>
>>> Um, NO!! Yes cranberries are very tart which is why they need so much sugar! And when their tartness is balanced with the sugar it's cranberry heaven! And the Chambord is just over the top delicious!
>>
>> I'm not a fan of sweet alcohol. I wonder what a Chambord hangover
>> would be like. Feeling like a sick fairy?
>>
>
>You'd probably get sick before you got drunk. Chambord is a nice
>flavoring for things like sauteed carrots or the cranberry but sipping
>more than an ounce is too sweet.

Yes, it might be a good ingredient sometimes. But drinking it must be
as bad as triple sec, blue curacao or pisang ambon.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
>>
>> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to
>> > cause
>> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
>> >
>>
>> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made, not that canned
>> abomination.
>>
> That's why I asked and you better sit down as I love the canned jellied
> variety. M-m-m-m-m-m

I do too, and I also like the homemade that Ina Garten does.

Cheri

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:11:57 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
>
> WAAHH! I LIKE the canned stuff! It's traditional in my family! Ok,
> I'll go hide and munch some of the canned stuff in my corner.

I've made it both ways. Opening a can or boiling cranberries in a sugar solution. I think the stuff that's not canned is pretty good - especially if someone makes it for me. If I had to make it myself, I'd just open a can.

On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 10:25:35 PM UTC-4, Brice wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
> >> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Now I am working on leftovers. I
> >> >> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
> >> >> with a turkey sandwich for supper.
> >> >>
> >> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
> >> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
> >> abomination.
> >> .
> >
> >I know! It was funny because in the 1990's my father, sister and I would shop for the stuffs to make Thanksgiving Dinner and after being raised on the gelatinous slime that slid out of the cans of cranberry sauce as we were in the produce dept my sister picks up a bag of cranberries and said Hey we should try this! And we did and we never went back!
>
> So basically, cranberries are too tart to eat, so you have to add lots
> of sugar until you can't taste them anymore. And then you say you love
> cranberries.
>
> Is that the idea?

You don't have to add lots of sugar. My cranberry-orange relish is made
with less than half the amount the standard recipe recommends.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 03:08:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 10:25:35 PM UTC-4, Brice wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
>> >> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now I am working on leftovers. I
>> >> >> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
>> >> >> with a turkey sandwich for supper.
>> >> >>
>> >> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
>> >> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
>> >> abomination.
>> >> .
>> >
>> >I know! It was funny because in the 1990's my father, sister and I would shop for the stuffs to make Thanksgiving Dinner and after being raised on the gelatinous slime that slid out of the cans of cranberry sauce as we were in the produce dept my sister picks up a bag of cranberries and said Hey we should try this! And we did and we never went back!
>>
>> So basically, cranberries are too tart to eat, so you have to add lots
>> of sugar until you can't taste them anymore. And then you say you love
>> cranberries.
>>
>> Is that the idea?
>
>You don't have to add lots of sugar. My cranberry-orange relish is made
>with less than half the amount the standard recipe recommends.

What would the ratio be?

On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 6:11:02 AM UTC-4, Brice wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 03:08:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 10:25:35 PM UTC-4, Brice wrote:
> >> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
> >> >> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Now I am working on leftovers. I
> >> >> >> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
> >> >> >> with a turkey sandwich for supper.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
> >> >> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
> >> >> abomination.
> >> >> .
> >> >
> >> >I know! It was funny because in the 1990's my father, sister and I would shop for the stuffs to make Thanksgiving Dinner and after being raised on the gelatinous slime that slid out of the cans of cranberry sauce as we were in the produce dept my sister picks up a bag of cranberries and said Hey we should try this! And we did and we never went back!
> >>
> >> So basically, cranberries are too tart to eat, so you have to add lots
> >> of sugar until you can't taste them anymore. And then you say you love
> >> cranberries.
> >>
> >> Is that the idea?
> >
> >You don't have to add lots of sugar. My cranberry-orange relish is made
> >with less than half the amount the standard recipe recommends.
>
> What would the ratio be?

One 12-ounce package cranberries. 1/4 cup sugar. Remember, it's a condiment,
not a course.

Cindy Hamilton

On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 03:22:46 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 6:11:02 AM UTC-4, Brice wrote:
>> On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 03:08:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 10:25:35 PM UTC-4, Brice wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> >> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
>> >> >> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Now I am working on leftovers. I
>> >> >> >> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
>> >> >> >> with a turkey sandwich for supper.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
>> >> >> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
>> >> >> abomination.
>> >> >> .
>> >> >
>> >> >I know! It was funny because in the 1990's my father, sister and I would shop for the stuffs to make Thanksgiving Dinner and after being raised on the gelatinous slime that slid out of the cans of cranberry sauce as we were in the produce dept my sister picks up a bag of cranberries and said Hey we should try this! And we did and we never went back!
>> >>
>> >> So basically, cranberries are too tart to eat, so you have to add lots
>> >> of sugar until you can't taste them anymore. And then you say you love
>> >> cranberries.
>> >>
>> >> Is that the idea?
>> >
>> >You don't have to add lots of sugar. My cranberry-orange relish is made
>> >with less than half the amount the standard recipe recommends.
>>
>> What would the ratio be?
>
>One 12-ounce package cranberries. 1/4 cup sugar. Remember, it's a condiment,
>not a course.

It's gonna take some homework to make sense of that.

12 ounce of cranberries = 340 grams
1/4 cup of sugar = 50 grams of sugar.

That's not bad at all. Most recipes for jams/jellies or whatever you
call them use much more sugar. Maybe even 1:1.

On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 17:30:04 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2018-10-07 2:19 PM, wrote:
>
>>> I can quote Wikipedia:
>>> "During and after the American Revolution, American refugees who
>>> remained loyal to Great Britain moved from the newly independent United
>>> States to Canada. They brought the customs and practices of the American
>>> Thanksgiving to Canada, such as the turkey, pumpkin, and squash"
>>
>> https://www.insidevancouver.ca/2014/...-thanksgiving/
>>
>> Try that one - you are wrong - show me something where you are right.
>> Why the hell do you want to link Canadian Thanksgiving to the
>> Pilgrims? Two entirely different occasions.
>>
>
>
>
>There is nothing much in there that proves me wrong, other than the
>author's assertions. The date is different, but our harvest season is
>earlier. The date used to be inconsistent, and it is believed that the
>Pilgrim Thanksgiving had been held on late September.
>
>The traditional foods are similar..... turkey with gravy, mashed
>potatoes, squash, pumpkin pie, apple pie.
>
>One of her points is that it is not associated with sales like it is in
>the US. Well, that is a relatively recent phenomenon, more a part of
>current consumerism that the Thanksgiving tradition. However, it is
>becoming a thing here.
>
>Your expert attributes part of the tradition to the celebration of
>Martin Frobisher's successful crossing of the Northwest Passage.
>Frobisher never found the Northwest Passage so I don't know how much
>faith you have in the beliefs of someone who was completely wrong about
>that.
>
>The fact that Canadians do not travel as much as Americans on
>Thanksgiving does not mean that they holiday tradition was not also
>based on the American one.
>
>
>I will stand by my personal experience growing up in Canada that our
>holiday is very strongly linked to the Pilgrims. I asked my wife about
>it this after noon. She is into Thanksgiving in a big way, just like her
>mother, who was proud of her Loyalist roots. She mentioned that when
>she switched to a high Anglican church a few years ago she was a little
>disappointed that they did not do anything special for Thanksgiving and
>realized it was because they had done they Harvest Home thing the week
>before.

Ball is in your court, YOU prove to me that the Canadian Thanksgiving
has even a little to do with the Pilgrim Fathers - I can't imagine why
you want to associate it with some religious nutters anyway!

On Sun, 07 Oct 2018 16:38:05 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 11:26:26 -0400, Dave Smith
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > On 2018-10-07 7:15 AM, wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 6 Oct 2018 22:06:27 -0400, Dave Smith
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 2018-10-06 5:46 PM, wrote:
>> > > >
>> >>>>> Thanksgiving is about "giving thanks" (duh!) to any dummies
>> stupid >>>>> enough to provide such a dinner.
>> > > > > >
>> >>>>> nb
>> > > > >
>> >>>> Canadian Thanksgiving is about being thankful for the harvest
>> just in, >>>> rather than Pilgrim Fathers.
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> >>> It is?? I grew up here and what I learned about Thanksgiving was
>> based >>> on the Pilgrim Thanksgiving. After all, Anglo Canada was
>> established >>> primarily by Loyalist who had re-located after the
>> revolution and >>> American independence. It's the same holiday, but
>> celebrated a month >>> earlier.
>> >>
>> >> If you check, you will find it is aligned with the church festivals
>> >> for Harvest Home. Although NS had it's share of loyalists, they
>> are >> not about celebrating the Pilgrim Fathers.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Yes, of course it is aligned with harvest festivals. The Pilgrims
>> > were British. Nova Scotia, which included what is now New
>> > Brunswick, had a huge influx of Loyalists. It is only natural that
>> > they would bring some of their customs. The Pilgrims,being British
>> > would have the same basic holiday celebrations as back home in
>> > England, and the Loyalists brought the Thanksgiving harvest
>> > festival with them. I am not giving the Pilgrims credit for
>> > inventing Thanksgiving. I am just telling you that, having grown up
>> > in Canada, Thanksgiving was always hyped as starting with the
>> > Pilgrim event.
>>
>> Must have been unique to your family - I have never heard a single
>> Canadian suggest it has anything whatsoever to do with the bloody
>> Pilgrims, thankfully.
>
>Canadian Thankgiving has the same roots as the USA one. It is only
>held earlier due to climate/crop time.
>
>South of you, folks were too busy gathering the crops in at your time.

As usual you are not basing that on fact, just what you want to think.
Please give me a link which shows Canadians celebrate the Pilgrim
Fathers for Thanksgiving!

On 2018-10-07 10:58 PM, cshenk wrote:
> wrote:
>
>>> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made, not that
>>> canned abomination.
>>>
>> That's why I asked and you better sit down as I love the canned
>> jellied variety. M-m-m-m-m-m
>
> Grin, me too! I made the fresh stuff. It's fine in it's place but I
> like the canned better.

I pity you guys. The canned stuff has no tart zing to it, no sharp
cranberry flavour. It is just sweet and bland. I also use cranberry
sauce with chicken.

On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 5:22:49 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Monday, October 8, 2018 at 6:11:02 AM UTC-4, Brice wrote:
> > On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 03:08:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 10:25:35 PM UTC-4, Brice wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 19:20:08 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > >> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 7:59:59 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> >> On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
> > >> >> > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Now I am working on leftovers. I
> > >> >> >> am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some of that
> > >> >> >> with a turkey sandwich for supper.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going to cause
> > >> >> > an apoplexy, don't answer.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that canned
> > >> >> abomination.
> > >> >> .
> > >> >
> > >> >I know! It was funny because in the 1990's my father, sister and I would shop for the stuffs to make Thanksgiving Dinner and after being raised on the gelatinous slime that slid out of the cans of cranberry sauce as we were in the produce dept my sister picks up a bag of cranberries and said Hey we should try this! And we did and we never went back!
> > >>
> > >> So basically, cranberries are too tart to eat, so you have to add lots
> > >> of sugar until you can't taste them anymore. And then you say you love
> > >> cranberries.
> > >>
> > >> Is that the idea?
> > >
> > >You don't have to add lots of sugar. My cranberry-orange relish is made
> > >with less than half the amount the standard recipe recommends.
> >
> > What would the ratio be?
>
> One 12-ounce package cranberries. 1/4 cup sugar. Remember, it's a condiment,
> not a course.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Exactly, it's a "relish" like Pickle Relish!! You don't eat a bowl of it, just a blob on your plate to dip bites of food in! Although I WOULD eat a small bowl of Cranberry Relish!

And I agree, one can make Cranberry or any other Relish with as much or little sugar as to your taste. IF you make your own Relishes!

John Kuthe...

On 2018-10-08 7:15 AM, wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 17:30:04 -0400, Dave Smith

>> I will stand by my personal experience growing up in Canada that our
>> holiday is very strongly linked to the Pilgrims. I asked my wife about
>> it this after noon. She is into Thanksgiving in a big way, just like her
>> mother, who was proud of her Loyalist roots. She mentioned that when
>> she switched to a high Anglican church a few years ago she was a little
>> disappointed that they did not do anything special for Thanksgiving and
>> realized it was because they had done they Harvest Home thing the week
>> before.
>
> Ball is in your court, YOU prove to me that the Canadian Thanksgiving
> has even a little to do with the Pilgrim Fathers - I can't imagine why
> you want to associate it with some religious nutters anyway!


Oh yeah. I aced that serve and you failed to return it. As I explained
to you... twice.... I grew up here and I know the tradition that we were
raised with. For some reason, you are more inclined to go with an author
with the last name of Ali to argue about Canadian culture. While you
came to the UK, many of us have roots in the American colonies and have
ancestors who came here as Loyalists. How typical of you to try to
bolster your lame argument with a slur against the people credited with
organizing the first Thanksgiving. The fact remains that for those of us
who were born and raised in this country, Canadian Thanksgiving is
essentially the same celebration as the American Thanksgiving, sharing
the same roots and the same traditional foods, but held on different dates.

John Kuthe wrote:

> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 9:11:57 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > > On 2018-10-07 5:55 PM, wrote:
> > > > On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I am working on leftovers. I
> > > > > am making a batch of butternut squash soup and will have some
> > > > > of that with a turkey sandwich for supper.
> > > > >
> > > > Dare I ask if cranberry sauce was on your table? If it's going
> > > > to cause an apoplexy, don't answer.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made,not that
> > > canned abomination. .
> >
> > WAAHH! I LIKE the canned stuff! It's traditional in my family!
> > Ok, I'll go hide and munch some of the canned stuff in my corner.
>
> You can have ALL of mine!
>
> I;ll make my own out of cranberries, sugar and water and some
> Chambord just to be delicious!
>
> John Kuthe...

John, there will always be 'one offs'. I like the canned stuff better
in this one item. It speaks of family and tradition.

I've made it from the fresh berries and while it was good, it just
didn't hit the spot for us. Don even admitted he missed the can lines
and I missed that I couldn't just slice some for a leftover turkey
samwich.

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2018-10-07 10:58 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made, not that
> > > > canned abomination.
> > > >
> > > That's why I asked and you better sit down as I love the canned
> > > jellied variety. M-m-m-m-m-m
> >
> > Grin, me too! I made the fresh stuff. It's fine in it's place but I
> > like the canned better.
>
> I pity you guys. The canned stuff has no tart zing to it, no sharp
> cranberry flavour. It is just sweet and bland. I also use cranberry
> sauce with chicken.

There is no need to pity the rest of us. It's simply that not everyone
wants the exact same thing. Thats a good part of the world.

dsi1 wrote:

> On Sunday, October 7, 2018 at 4:11:57 PM UTC-10, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > WAAHH! I LIKE the canned stuff! It's traditional in my family!
> > Ok, I'll go hide and munch some of the canned stuff in my corner.
>
> I've made it both ways. Opening a can or boiling cranberries in a
> sugar solution. I think the stuff that's not canned is pretty good -
> especially if someone makes it for me. If I had to make it myself,
> I'd just open a can.

It's actually pretty easy to make. I and my family just find we LIKE
the canned versions better. No reason why others have to prefer that.

Dave Smith wrote:
>
> On 2018-10-07 10:58 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made, not that
> >>> canned abomination.
> >>>
> >> That's why I asked and you better sit down as I love the canned
> >> jellied variety. M-m-m-m-m-m
> >
> > Grin, me too! I made the fresh stuff. It's fine in it's place but I
> > like the canned better.
>
> I pity you guys. The canned stuff has no tart zing to it, no sharp
> cranberry flavour. It is just sweet and bland. I also use cranberry
> sauce with chicken.

I also like the canned jelly cranberry sauce. Probably because
that's what I grew up with.

First time I made my own from real cranberries, then cooked with
water and one cup sugar, I tossed most of it in the trash. Way to
sickenly sweet.

I now use a nice compromise. Cranberries, 1/2 orange plus a bit
of water, then about half of the sugar.

That one cup of sugar with 12 oz of cranberries was inedible to
me.

On 10/8/2018 10:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
>
> I've made it from the fresh berries and while it was good, it just
> didn't hit the spot for us. Don even admitted he missed the can lines
> and I missed that I couldn't just slice some for a leftover turkey
> samwich.
>
LOL That's what I remember about it. The can lines.

Jill

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2018-10-08 7:15 AM, wrote:
> > On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 17:30:04 -0400, Dave Smith
>
> > > I will stand by my personal experience growing up in Canada that
> > > our holiday is very strongly linked to the Pilgrims. I asked my
> > > wife about it this after noon. She is into Thanksgiving in a big
> > > way, just like her mother, who was proud of her Loyalist roots.
> > > She mentioned that when she switched to a high Anglican church a
> > > few years ago she was a little disappointed that they did not do
> > > anything special for Thanksgiving and realized it was because
> > > they had done they Harvest Home thing the week before.
> >
> > Ball is in your court, YOU prove to me that the Canadian
> > Thanksgiving has even a little to do with the Pilgrim Fathers - I
> > can't imagine why you want to associate it with some religious
> > nutters anyway!
>
>
> Oh yeah. I aced that serve and you failed to return it. As I
> explained to you... twice.... I grew up here and I know the tradition
> that we were raised with. For some reason, you are more inclined to
> go with an author with the last name of Ali to argue about Canadian
> culture. While you came to the UK, many of us have roots in the
> American colonies and have ancestors who came here as Loyalists. How
> typical of you to try to bolster your lame argument with a slur
> against the people credited with organizing the first Thanksgiving.
> The fact remains that for those of us who were born and raised in
> this country, Canadian Thanksgiving is essentially the same
> celebration as the American Thanksgiving, sharing the same roots and
> the same traditional foods, but held on different dates.

For reason. The holiday (such as observed) was a feast of the harvest.
It was celebrated in what is NOW 2 countries but predates that. Same
ancestors, we just split ways later.

Pilgrims were just one set that came over.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving

The fact is both North and South North Americans celebrated it but as a
harvest issue, the southerly folks did it later because the final
harvest was later.

It's not rocket science here so not sure why the debate?

Gary wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > On 2018-10-07 10:58 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>> Of course there was cranberry sauce... freshly made, not that
> > >>> canned abomination.
> > > > >
> > >> That's why I asked and you better sit down as I love the canned
> > >> jellied variety. M-m-m-m-m-m
> > >
> > > Grin, me too! I made the fresh stuff. It's fine in it's place
> > > but I like the canned better.
> >
> > I pity you guys. The canned stuff has no tart zing to it, no sharp
> > cranberry flavour. It is just sweet and bland. I also use
> > cranberry sauce with chicken.
>
> I also like the canned jelly cranberry sauce. Probably because
> that's what I grew up with.
>
> First time I made my own from real cranberries, then cooked with
> water and one cup sugar, I tossed most of it in the trash. Way to
> sickenly sweet.
>
> I now use a nice compromise. Cranberries, 1/2 orange plus a bit
> of water, then about half of the sugar.
>
> That one cup of sugar with 12 oz of cranberries was inedible to
> me.

Pretty much same here. Sweeter by far than the cans.

jmcquown wrote:

> On 10/8/2018 10:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > I've made it from the fresh berries and while it was good, it just
> > didn't hit the spot for us. Don even admitted he missed the can
> > lines and I missed that I couldn't just slice some for a leftover
> > turkey samwich.
> >
> LOL That's what I remember about it. The can lines.
>
> Jill

Yeah, slicing guides!

On 2018-10-08 11:44 AM, cshenk wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On 2018-10-08 7:15 AM, wrote:
>>> On Sun, 7 Oct 2018 17:30:04 -0400, Dave Smith
>>
>>>> I will stand by my personal experience growing up in Canada that
>>>> our holiday is very strongly linked to the Pilgrims. I asked my
>>>> wife about it this after noon. She is into Thanksgiving in a big
>>>> way, just like her mother, who was proud of her Loyalist roots.
>>>> She mentioned that when she switched to a high Anglican church a
>>>> few years ago she was a little disappointed that they did not do
>>>> anything special for Thanksgiving and realized it was because
>>>> they had done they Harvest Home thing the week before.
>>>
>>> Ball is in your court, YOU prove to me that the Canadian
>>> Thanksgiving has even a little to do with the Pilgrim Fathers - I
>>> can't imagine why you want to associate it with some religious
>>> nutters anyway!
>>
>>
>> Oh yeah. I aced that serve and you failed to return it. As I
>> explained to you... twice.... I grew up here and I know the tradition
>> that we were raised with. For some reason, you are more inclined to
>> go with an author with the last name of Ali to argue about Canadian
>> culture. While you came to the UK, many of us have roots in the
>> American colonies and have ancestors who came here as Loyalists. How
>> typical of you to try to bolster your lame argument with a slur
>> against the people credited with organizing the first Thanksgiving.
>> The fact remains that for those of us who were born and raised in
>> this country, Canadian Thanksgiving is essentially the same
>> celebration as the American Thanksgiving, sharing the same roots and
>> the same traditional foods, but held on different dates.
>
> For reason. The holiday (such as observed) was a feast of the harvest.
> It was celebrated in what is NOW 2 countries but predates that. Same
> ancestors, we just split ways later.
>
> Pilgrims were just one set that came over.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving
>
> The fact is both North and South North Americans celebrated it but as a
> harvest issue, the southerly folks did it later because the final
> harvest was later.
>
> It's not rocket science here so not sure why the debate?
>


Someone who did not grow up here thinks this is not so, and she has
attempted to bolster her argument citing an article by an author with
the surname Ali, which would lead me to suspect that she was not raised
with the family and cultural traditions that I do. I don't think that
anyone is arguing that there were not rooted in the religious harvest
home and other harvest celebrations, or that there have been a number of
events of giving thanks. It would appear that some people will argue
against even the most obvious connections. As a person who was born in
this country and raised with the Thanksgiving tradition and married to a
woman with a similar background, I can attest to having celebrated the
holiday with references to the Pilgrims. Now we both have the same
celebration with the same basic theme, getting family and friends
together for feast of the same foods.... roast turkey,stuffing,
cranberries, gravy, mashed potatoes, squash, pumpkin pie, apple pie. I
guess perhaps the similarities are too subtle for some people.

On 10/8/2018 12:07 PM, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 10/8/2018 10:59 AM, cshenk wrote:
>>>
>>> I've made it from the fresh berries and while it was good, it just
>>> didn't hit the spot for us. Don even admitted he missed the can
>>> lines and I missed that I couldn't just slice some for a leftover
>>> turkey samwich.
>>>
>> LOL That's what I remember about it. The can lines.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Yeah, slicing guides!
>
I found it amusing. I never actually tasted cranberry sauce made from
*berries* until I was in my 20's.

Jill