I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
iron Dutch oven.
So, I will make beef burritos and make rice that nods its head to
Mexican flavors. Some salad for a side dish.
Margaritas to drink and ice cream for dessert.
Janet US

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
> last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
> making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
> iron Dutch oven.
>
> Janet US
>
You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.

On Sat, 5 May 2018 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
>> last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
>> making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
>> iron Dutch oven.
>>
>> Janet US
>>
>You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.

don't have a crockpot. Had one for a couple of months and took it to
Goodwill. Just not my style of cooking.
Janet US

On Sat, 5 May 2018 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
>> last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
>> making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
>> iron Dutch oven.
>>
>> Janet US
>>
>You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.

Can braise on the stovetop, yesterday I braised pork
chops on the stove top... I always braise on the stovetop... I see no
advantage whatsoever to braising in the oven or slow cooker. I found
my slow cooker to be a useless appliance, I gave it away.

On 2018-05-05 12:16 PM, wrote:
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
>> last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
>> making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
>> iron Dutch oven.
>>
>> Janet US
>>
> You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.
>


It could also go on a burner on low heat while the bread is cooking.

On Sat, 05 May 2018 10:41:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Sat, 5 May 2018 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
>>> last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
>>> making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
>>> iron Dutch oven.
>>>
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.
>
>don't have a crockpot. Had one for a couple of months and took it to
>Goodwill. Just not my style of cooking.
>Janet US

A crockpot is to cooking as paint by numbers is art.
The only thing I found crockpots good for is steelcut oats, saves all
that stirring. When I gave up steel cut oats and found no other good
use for a crockpot I gave it away... and fed about 30 pounds of
steelcut oats to the birds. Steel cut oats are really no better than
ordinary Quaker oats.

> wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 05 May 2018 10:41:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 5 May 2018 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>>
>>>On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
>>>> last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
>>>> making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
>>>> iron Dutch oven.
>>>>
>>>> Janet US
>>>>
>>>You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.
>>
>>don't have a crockpot. Had one for a couple of months and took it to
>>Goodwill. Just not my style of cooking.
>>Janet US
>
> A crockpot is to cooking as paint by numbers is art.
> The only thing I found crockpots good for is steelcut oats, saves all
> that stirring. When I gave up steel cut oats and found no other good
> use for a crockpot I gave it away... and fed about 30 pounds of
> steelcut oats to the birds. Steel cut oats are really no better than
> ordinary Quaker oats.


Proves that you don't know how to use a crockpot is all that does.

Cheri

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:41:07 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> On Sat, 5 May 2018 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.
>
> don't have a crockpot. Had one for a couple of months and took it to
> Goodwill. Just not my style of cooking.
> Janet US
>
>
I gotta admit I don't use mine weekly but it is nice to plop something
in there and go shopping or whatever and come home and dinner is pretty
much ready.

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:50:56 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Can braise on the stovetop, yesterday I braised pork
> chops on the stove top... I always braise on the stovetop... I see no
> advantage whatsoever to braising in the oven or slow cooker. I found
> my slow cooker to be a useless appliance, I gave it away.
>
>
I just replied to Janet that I don't use mine weekly but it's nice to put
something in there without having to babysit it. Thursday I made "crock-
pot beef stroganoff" and headed off to Wally World. It needed another 2
hours or so of cooking when I got home and pretty much all I had to do
was cook the noodles and heat the bread.

Dinner's ready!

On Sat, 5 May 2018 10:35:32 -0700, "Cheri" >
wrote:

> wrote in message
.. .
>> On Sat, 05 May 2018 10:41:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 5 May 2018 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
>>>>> last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
>>>>> making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
>>>>> iron Dutch oven.
>>>>>
>>>>> Janet US
>>>>>
>>>>You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.
>>>
>>>don't have a crockpot. Had one for a couple of months and took it to
>>>Goodwill. Just not my style of cooking.
>>>Janet US
>>
>> A crockpot is to cooking as paint by numbers is art.
>> The only thing I found crockpots good for is steelcut oats, saves all
>> that stirring. When I gave up steel cut oats and found no other good
>> use for a crockpot I gave it away... and fed about 30 pounds of
>> steelcut oats to the birds. Steel cut oats are really no better than
>> ordinary Quaker oats.
>
>Proves that you don't know how to use a crockpot is all that does.

I was thinking to use the porcelain insert with glass lid for pickling
cukes but it's too shallow. And you just proved that you can't cook.

On Sat, 5 May 2018 10:42:03 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:50:56 AM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> Can braise on the stovetop, yesterday I braised pork
>> chops on the stove top... I always braise on the stovetop... I see no
>> advantage whatsoever to braising in the oven or slow cooker. I found
>> my slow cooker to be a useless appliance, I gave it away.
>>
>>
>I just replied to Janet that I don't use mine weekly but it's nice to put
>something in there without having to babysit it. Thursday I made "crock-
>pot beef stroganoff" and headed off to Wally World. It needed another 2
>hours or so of cooking when I got home and pretty much all I had to do
>was cook the noodles and heat the bread.
>
>Dinner's ready!

I can accomplish exactly the same on the stovetop... do your stovetop
burners not have temperature control? Does your oven not have a
thermostat? Yesterday I braised a mess of porkchops in tomato sauce
in a twelve quart pot on the stove top... didn't need to look at it
for over six hours. If your top burner can't be turned down low
enough simply use a larger pot. I ended up with six falling off the
bone chops and some seven quarts of scrumptious tomato sauce for my
freezer plus enough for dinner last night. In error I defrosted two
small top round steaks thinking it was pork chops, clearly labeled but
my fault for neglecting to read the label I snipped from the meat
package and froze in the zip-loc with the meat. In any event those
joined the chops in the sauce.
With modern cookstoves I see no use whatsoever for crockpots.

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 1:23:07 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> On Sat, 5 May 2018 10:42:03 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >I just replied to Janet that I don't use mine weekly but it's nice to put
> >something in there without having to babysit it. Thursday I made "crock-
> >pot beef stroganoff" and headed off to Wally World. It needed another 2
> >hours or so of cooking when I got home and pretty much all I had to do
> >was cook the noodles and heat the bread.
> >
> >Dinner's ready!
>
> I can accomplish exactly the same on the stovetop... do your stovetop
> burners not have temperature control? Does your oven not have a
> thermostat? Yesterday I braised a mess of porkchops in tomato sauce
> in a twelve quart pot on the stove top... didn't need to look at it
> for over six hours. If your top burner can't be turned down low
> enough simply use a larger pot. I ended up with six falling off the
> bone chops and some seven quarts of scrumptious tomato sauce for my
> freezer plus enough for dinner last night. In error I defrosted two
> small top round steaks thinking it was pork chops, clearly labeled but
> my fault for neglecting to read the label I snipped from the meat
> package and froze in the zip-loc with the meat. In any event those
> joined the chops in the sauce.
>
>
Of course my stovetop has temperature controls. But I don't like
leaving the house with something braising or barely simmering on
an open flame. I was gone for several hours and I would have been
on pins and needles thinking I had left something on a barely lit
burner.
>
> With modern cookstoves I see no use whatsoever for crockpots.
>
That's wonderful for you but what's good for you is not necessarily
what others want to do. Ain't it great we all have a choice?

On Sat, 5 May 2018 10:38:24 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:41:07 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 5 May 2018 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.
>>
>> don't have a crockpot. Had one for a couple of months and took it to
>> Goodwill. Just not my style of cooking.
>> Janet US
>>
>>
>I gotta admit I don't use mine weekly but it is nice to plop something
>in there and go shopping or whatever and come home and dinner is pretty
>much ready.

I like to stir, and add, and peek etc. Crock pot just doesn't do it
for me.
Janet US

On Sat, 5 May 2018 11:41:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>snip
>>
>Of course my stovetop has temperature controls. But I don't like
>leaving the house with something braising or barely simmering on
>an open flame. I was gone for several hours and I would have been
>on pins and needles thinking I had left something on a barely lit
>burner.
>>
snip
I'm with you on that.
Janet US

Sheldon wrote:

> On Sat, 5 May 2018 10:35:32 -0700, "Cheri" >
> wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Sat, 05 May 2018 10:41:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sat, 5 May 2018 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
> >>>>> last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
> >>>>> making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
> >>>>> iron Dutch oven.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Janet US
> >>>>>
> >>>>You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.
> >>>
> >>>don't have a crockpot. Had one for a couple of months and took it to
> >>>Goodwill. Just not my style of cooking.
> >>>Janet US
> >>
> >> A crockpot is to cooking as paint by numbers is art.
> >> The only thing I found crockpots good for is steelcut oats, saves all
> >> that stirring. When I gave up steel cut oats and found no other good
> >> use for a crockpot I gave it away... and fed about 30 pounds of
> >> steelcut oats to the birds. Steel cut oats are really no better than
> >> ordinary Quaker oats.
> >
> >Proves that you don't know how to use a crockpot is all that does.
>
> I was thinking to use the porcelain insert with glass lid for pickling
> cukes but it's too shallow. And you just proved that you can't cook.


I like to make quick icebox veg pickles, today I made a medley of diced cukes, red onion, okra, red bell peppers and japs, using my small crockpot insert; this is work lunch stuff. Microwaved the brine, then poured over the veg in the crock insert, very handy.

--
Best
Greg

Cheri wrote:

> > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 05 May 2018 10:41:01 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 5 May 2018 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:09:42 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
> >>>> last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
> >>>> making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
> >>>> iron Dutch oven.
> >>>>
> >>>> Janet US
> >>>>
> >>>You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.
> >>
> >>don't have a crockpot. Had one for a couple of months and took it to
> >>Goodwill. Just not my style of cooking.
> >>Janet US
> >
> > A crockpot is to cooking as paint by numbers is art.
> > The only thing I found crockpots good for is steelcut oats, saves all
> > that stirring. When I gave up steel cut oats and found no other good
> > use for a crockpot I gave it away... and fed about 30 pounds of
> > steelcut oats to the birds. Steel cut oats are really no better than
> > ordinary Quaker oats.
>
>
> Proves that you don't know how to use a crockpot is all that does.


But...but...you are an "atrocious witch"...!!!

;-)


--
Best
Greg

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 2:08:38 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> On Sat, 5 May 2018 10:38:24 -0700 (PDT), "
> > wrote:
>
> >I gotta admit I don't use mine weekly but it is nice to plop something
> >in there and go shopping or whatever and come home and dinner is pretty
> >much ready.
>
> I like to stir, and add, and peek etc. Crock pot just doesn't do it
> for me.
> Janet US
>
>
Oh, to be sure I stirred like a tornado when I got home and had a taste
as well. Everything went into the pot before plugging in and I don't
peek until 2 or 3 hours before it's expected to be done. Kinda like
the oven or lifting the lid on the grill; loses too much heat.

:-))

On Sat, 5 May 2018 11:41:44 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 1:23:07 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 5 May 2018 10:42:03 -0700 (PDT), "
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I just replied to Janet that I don't use mine weekly but it's nice to put
>> >something in there without having to babysit it. Thursday I made "crock-
>> >pot beef stroganoff" and headed off to Wally World. It needed another 2
>> >hours or so of cooking when I got home and pretty much all I had to do
>> >was cook the noodles and heat the bread.
>> >
>> >Dinner's ready!
>>
>> I can accomplish exactly the same on the stovetop... do your stovetop
>> burners not have temperature control? Does your oven not have a
>> thermostat? Yesterday I braised a mess of porkchops in tomato sauce
>> in a twelve quart pot on the stove top... didn't need to look at it
>> for over six hours. If your top burner can't be turned down low
>> enough simply use a larger pot. I ended up with six falling off the
>> bone chops and some seven quarts of scrumptious tomato sauce for my
>> freezer plus enough for dinner last night. In error I defrosted two
>> small top round steaks thinking it was pork chops, clearly labeled but
>> my fault for neglecting to read the label I snipped from the meat
>> package and froze in the zip-loc with the meat. In any event those
>> joined the chops in the sauce.
>>
>>
>Of course my stovetop has temperature controls. But I don't like
>leaving the house with something braising or barely simmering on
>an open flame. I was gone for several hours and I would have been
>on pins and needles thinking I had left something on a barely lit
>burner.

A gas stove set on low is just as safe if not safer than an electric
cooker. Me, I would never leave home with something cooking no matter
by what method. I don't leave home or go to sleep with the washer or
clothes dryer on either... a water hose could burst or there can be a
lint fire. I'm tuned in to water flowing and I have smoke detectors
everywhere. Slow cookers are fairly chintzy high wattage appliances
and they have no built in safety features. I'd no sooner leave with a
toaster oven on. However leaving a low simmering pot on a gas stove
presents no risk, but I'd still not leave home while it's on. If I
need to be gone for an hour I'd turn the burner off and turn it back
on when I return, done that several times... never cools into an
unsafe zone but no biggie to raise the heat to bring it back to
temperature in five minutes.


>> With modern cookstoves I see no use whatsoever for crockpots.
>>
>That's wonderful for you but what's good for you is not necessarily
>what others want to do. Ain't it great we all have a choice?
>

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 9:14:16 AM UTC-10, Steve 'Cannabis Oil' Wertz wrote:
>
> I like to make quick icebox veg pickles, today I made a medley of diced cukes, red onion, okra, red bell peppers and japs, using my small crockpot insert; this is work lunch stuff. Microwaved the brine, then poured over the veg in the crock insert, very handy.
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

I made some prune mui. It is dried fruits rehydrated with a pickling liquid of fruit juice, sugar, vinegar, salt. I also added some star anise and Mexican chamoy and Tajin for some zip. I'll probably add some other things to the jar, which is marinating on the counter.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/...8aDWkc8rcofScN

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 2:41:44 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> A gas stove set on low is just as safe if not safer than an electric
> cooker.
>
No, it's not.
>
> Me, I would never leave home with something cooking no matter
> by what method. I don't leave home or go to sleep with the washer or
> clothes dryer on either.
>
Nor do I.
>
> a water hose could burst or there can be a
> lint fire.
>
Clean your lint trap every time you dry clothes. At least once a
year take the back off your dryer to make sure there is no loose
lint to cause a fire.
>
> I'm tuned in to water flowing and I have smoke detectors
> everywhere.
>
As do I and a carbon monoxide detector.
>
> Slow cookers are fairly chintzy high wattage appliances
> and they have no built in safety features. I'd no sooner leave
> with a toaster oven on.
>
You need to get out more and check out the latest models of crock-
pots. You're way behind the times.

My slow cooker allows me to choose 4 or 6 hours, on high, cooking time,
or 8 or 10 hours, on low, cooking time. After the selected cooking
time has been reach it goes into it's 'keep warm' phase. After two
hours of being on warm it automatically shuts off.
>
> However leaving a low simmering pot on a gas stove
> presents no risk, but I'd still not leave home while it's on. If I
> need to be gone for an hour I'd turn the burner off and turn it back
> on when I return, done that several times... never cools into an
> unsafe zone but no biggie to raise the heat to bring it back to
> temperature in five minutes.
>
With my crockpot I don't have to fiddle with burners.

On 5/5/18 9:09 AM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> I was going to do a Mexican style pork today for burritos but at the
> last minute I realized that I was going to be using the oven for
> making bread. Pork butt takes a bunch of hours in the oven in a cast
> iron Dutch oven.
> So, I will make beef burritos and make rice that nods its head to
> Mexican flavors. Some salad for a side dish.
> Margaritas to drink and ice cream for dessert.
> Janet US
>
I can't believe you bought nearly expired beef

wrote:
>
> However leaving a low simmering pot on a gas stove
> presents no risk, but I'd still not leave home while it's on. If I
> need to be gone for an hour I'd turn the burner off and turn it back
> on when I return, done that several times... never cools into an
> unsafe zone but no biggie to raise the heat to bring it back to
> temperature in five minutes.

I've done that many times too. Need to run out for an hour or
so...and a large pot simmering, I'll turn off the burner, put a
folded kitchen towel on top of the lid for extra insulation then
go. Once home bring it back up to a simmer and continue cooking.

>
> >> With modern cookstoves I see no use whatsoever for crockpots.

I use mine for certain things. All appliances have their uses.
Mainly, I use my crockpot to make small batches of rich chicken
broth.

I use an old 1980 Rival crockpot. Still works fine so I have no
urge or need to buy a newer one since I rarely use it.

On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:12:40 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> However leaving a low simmering pot on a gas stove
>> presents no risk, but I'd still not leave home while it's on. If I
>> need to be gone for an hour I'd turn the burner off and turn it back
>> on when I return, done that several times... never cools into an
>> unsafe zone but no biggie to raise the heat to bring it back to
>> temperature in five minutes.
>
>I've done that many times too. Need to run out for an hour or
>so...and a large pot simmering, I'll turn off the burner, put a
>folded kitchen towel on top of the lid for extra insulation then
>go. Once home bring it back up to a simmer and continue cooking.

The only reason I turn my stove off when I leave home for a while is
because it's gas and when on a low simmer the flame can blow out from
a draft, has happened once when I opened the sliders but didn't notice
the flame was out for about twenty minutes when I smelled gas. Since
then I'm careful about opening the slider on a windy day when the
stove is on.

>> >> With modern cookstoves I see no use whatsoever for crockpots.
>
>I use mine for certain things. All appliances have their uses.
>Mainly, I use my crockpot to make small batches of rich chicken
>broth.
>
>I use an old 1980 Rival crockpot. Still works fine so I have no
>urge or need to buy a newer one since I rarely use it.

This is the Crock Pot I had, I think there's a pot roast in it, was
2006:
https://postimg.cc/image/6ucb0u59n/
It was 8 quarts but I found it much too small for stew/soups,
certainly too small to use for stock... but mostly I didn't like that
if I wanted to add something it took forever for the temperature to
return... making stew/pot roast I found by the time the meat was
tender the veggies were mush. I wouldn't ever make so small amount of
stock except when I have some gnawed porkchop bones to simmer an hour
for a quick stock for a couple packets of ramen for me. My wife
doesn't gnaw bones, she has too much expensive dental work... she cuts
the meat from bones... but even if she did gnaw her bones I'd still
add them to my bones. And she doesn't like ramen anyway so I make it
just for me when she's not home and then I add onions.
When I make a batch of stock the smallest pot I'll use is my 18 quart
PIAZZA... a real French style stock pot that's much taller than it is
wide. And it seems large but by the time I strain out the solids I
get maybe 10-12 quarts of stock, and I don't fill pots to the top,
much neater cooking.

On 5/7/2018 10:18 AM, wrote:

> The only reason I turn my stove off when I leave home for a while is
> because it's gas and when on a low simmer the flame can blow out from
> a draft, has happened once when I opened the sliders but didn't notice
> the flame was out for about twenty minutes when I smelled gas. Since
> then I'm careful about opening the slider on a windy day when the
> stove is on.
>
Mine has a flame-failure device - should the flame blow out, the gas is
automatically shut off.

On Mon, 7 May 2018 12:45:49 -0400, S Viemeister
> wrote:

>On 5/7/2018 10:18 AM, wrote:
>
>> The only reason I turn my stove off when I leave home for a while is
>> because it's gas and when on a low simmer the flame can blow out from
>> a draft, has happened once when I opened the sliders but didn't notice
>> the flame was out for about twenty minutes when I smelled gas. Since
>> then I'm careful about opening the slider on a windy day when the
>> stove is on.
>>
>Mine has a flame-failure device - should the flame blow out, the gas is
>automatically shut off.

I have that for my oven but not my top burners... what stove do you
have?

wrote:
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 12:45:49 -0400, S Viemeister
> > wrote:
>
>> On 5/7/2018 10:18 AM, wrote:
>>
>>> The only reason I turn my stove off when I leave home for a while is
>>> because it's gas and when on a low simmer the flame can blow out from
>>> a draft, has happened once when I opened the sliders but didn't notice
>>> the flame was out for about twenty minutes when I smelled gas. Since
>>> then I'm careful about opening the slider on a windy day when the
>>> stove is on.
>>>
>> Mine has a flame-failure device - should the flame blow out, the gas is
>> automatically shut off.
>
> I have that for my oven but not my top burners... what stove do you
> have?
>

That's too bad. When the time comes, yoose can't stick yoose head in the
oven.

On 5/7/2018 4:54 PM, wrote:
> > wrote:
>> On 5/7/2018 10:18 AM, wrote:
>>> The only reason I turn my stove off when I leave home for a while is
>>> because it's gas and when on a low simmer the flame can blow out from
>>> a draft, has happened once when I opened the sliders but didn't notice
>>> the flame was out for about twenty minutes when I smelled gas. Since
>>> then I'm careful about opening the slider on a windy day when the
>>> stove is on.
>>>
>> Mine has a flame-failure device - should the flame blow out, the gas is
>> automatically shut off.
>
> I have that for my oven but not my top burners... what stove do you
> have?
>
It's a European model.
Hotpoint/Cannon CH60DPXFS Dual Fuel
Four gas burners (propane), and two electric ovens.

On Mon, 7 May 2018 20:22:47 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 5 May 2018 10:38:24 -0700 (PDT),
>wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:41:07 AM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 5 May 2018 09:16:35 -0700 (PDT), "
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>You could do your pork in a crockpot if you have one.
>>>
>>> don't have a crockpot. Had one for a couple of months and took it to
>>> Goodwill. Just not my style of cooking.
>>> Janet US
>>>
>>>
>> I gotta admit I don't use mine weekly but it is nice to plop something
>> in there and go shopping or whatever and come home and dinner is pretty
>> much ready.
>
>Anything you can do in a crock pot you can also do in the oven and
>stovetop with a cast iron dutch oven.
>But the crock pot is more energy efficient and doesn't tie up the
>oven or stove, just the counter.
>
>-sw

I've never yet used all four burners at once.... I'll often use two,
rarely three.

wrote:
> I've never yet used all four burners at once.... I'll often use two,
> rarely three.

That's because you toss everything into a 16qt mini-navy pot.

Gary wrote:
>penmart01 wrote:
>> I've never yet used all four burners at once.... I'll often use two,
>> rarely three.
>
>That's because you toss everything into a 16qt mini-navy pot.

Don't you own a real stock pot?

On Tue, 08 May 2018 14:18:21 -0400, wrote:

>Gary wrote:
>>penmart01 wrote:
>>> I've never yet used all four burners at once.... I'll often use two,
>>> rarely three.
>>
>>That's because you toss everything into a 16qt mini-navy pot.
>
>Don't you own a real stock pot?

some of us prefer quality over quantity

Gary wrote:
> wrote:
>> I've never yet used all four burners at once.... I'll often use two,
>> rarely three.
>
> That's because you toss everything into a 16qt mini-navy pot.
>

Pshaw. Poopeye uses a huge steam kettle. I bet he throws more food out
his windows than everyone here even cooks. Can you imagine that garbage
dump he lives in?

Sure, most of it eventually gets eaten by all the cats, possum, skunks
and other vermin, but that would only add to the stench.

On Tue, 08 May 2018 12:36:29 -0600, U.S. Janet B. >
wrote:

>On Tue, 08 May 2018 14:18:21 -0400, wrote:
>
>>Gary wrote:
>>>penmart01 wrote:
>>>> I've never yet used all four burners at once.... I'll often use two,
>>>> rarely three.
>>>
>>>That's because you toss everything into a 16qt mini-navy pot.
>>
>>Don't you own a real stock pot?
>
>some of us prefer quality over quantity.

Your reply is asinine... no one was talking quality,
just size.... no one needs a quality pot to heat liquid.

wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> >penmart01 wrote:
> >> I've never yet used all four burners at once.... I'll often use two,
> >> rarely three.
> >
> >That's because you toss everything into a 16qt mini-navy pot.
>
> Don't you own a real stock pot?

For many years I used a 5-qt stock pot. Too small and annoying.
Every time I made anything large, it didn't hold quite enough
that I wanted. So I bought an 8-qt one that works well for me.
Gives me about 7 quarts of whatever I make, stock, spaghetti
sauce, chili, etc.

That's all I need for me and even when daughter lived here. I
only have a fairly small fridge with freezer on top. I just
measured it = 15" X 15" X 23". So 7 quarts is enough to store in
that and still have room for other things.

Unlike Julie I can always find some space in my freezer to
freeze another item.

On Wed, 09 May 2018 08:47:01 -0400, Gary > wrote:

wrote:
>>
>> Gary wrote:
>> >penmart01 wrote:
>> >> I've never yet used all four burners at once.... I'll often use two,
>> >> rarely three.
>> >
>> >That's because you toss everything into a 16qt mini-navy pot.
>>
>> Don't you own a real stock pot?
>
>For many years I used a 5-qt stock pot. Too small and annoying.
>Every time I made anything large, it didn't hold quite enough
>that I wanted. So I bought an 8-qt one that works well for me.
>Gives me about 7 quarts of whatever I make, stock, spaghetti
>sauce, chili, etc.
>
>That's all I need for me and even when daughter lived here. I
>only have a fairly small fridge with freezer on top. I just
>measured it = 15" X 15" X 23". So 7 quarts is enough to store in
>that and still have room for other things.
>
>Unlike Julie I can always find some space in my freezer to
>freeze another item.

Everyone cooks differently. I use an 8 qt for boiling a pound of
pasta, could use a smaller pot but I don't like to fill any pot to the
top, prevents boil overs and spatters. However when I'm taking the
trouble and the time for a stock I like a large amount so I'll use the
18 qt. PIAZZA... cost $80 at Williams Sonoma, they were having a sale
and trying to unload their PIAZZA cookware because it was expensive
and at that time people weren't into high end cookware so they were
selling them at half price, I bought four pieces. It's difficlt to
find PIAZZA cookware in the US.
Be prepared to wait while their pdf catalog downloads:
http://www.piazza.it
There's a store in Florida that sells PIAZZA cookware but priced very
high.