Did you buy your house?

You've told us all about it. Some of us would like to know how it turned
out. I'm curious.

On 2017-07-11 8:51 AM, Gary wrote:
> Did you buy your house?
>
> You've told us all about it. Some of us would like to know how it turned
> out. I'm curious.
>
>


Why? Are you planning on celebrating an I told you so moment?

On 7/11/2017 8:54 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-07-11 8:51 AM, Gary wrote:
>> Did you buy your house?
>>
>> You've told us all about it. Some of us would like to know how it
>> turned out. I'm curious.
>>
>>
>
>
> Why? Are you planning on celebrating an I told you so moment?

No Dave, don't think so evil. John is part of this demented "family."
He's told us all his plans and I actually wish him well. Just wondering
if he actually did close and buy the house.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

On 7/11/2017 9:19 AM, Gary wrote:
> On 7/11/2017 8:54 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-07-11 8:51 AM, Gary wrote:
>>> Did you buy your house?
>>>
>>> You've told us all about it. Some of us would like to know how it
>>> turned out. I'm curious.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Why? Are you planning on celebrating an I told you so moment?
>
> No Dave, don't think so evil. John is part of this demented "family."
> He's told us all his plans and I actually wish him well. Just wondering
> if he actually did close and buy the house.
>
> Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
>
>

But if you are President you can turn a cigar into something magical.
Just ask Bill

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 3:20:04 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> On 7/11/2017 8:54 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2017-07-11 8:51 AM, Gary wrote:
> >> Did you buy your house?
> >>
> >> You've told us all about it. Some of us would like to know how it
> >> turned out. I'm curious.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Why? Are you planning on celebrating an I told you so moment?
>
> No Dave, don't think so evil. John is part of this demented "family."
> He's told us all his plans and I actually wish him well. Just wondering
> if he actually did close and buy the house.
>
> Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

You have to hone up on your guessing skills. I'm guessing the deal fell through. See - it's easy!

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 3:59:23 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
....
>
> You have to hone up on your guessing skills. I'm guessing the deal fell through. See - it's easy!

No, we pushed the close date back to 7/21.

John Kuthe...

dsi1 wrote:
>Gary wrote:
>>Dave Smith wrote:
>> >Gary wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Did you buy your house?
>> >>
>> >> You've told us all about it. Some of us would like to know how it
>> >> turned out. I'm curious.
>> >>
>> > Why? Are you planning on celebrating an I told you so moment?
>>
>> No Dave, don't think so evil. John is part of this demented "family."
>> He's told us all his plans and I actually wish him well. Just wondering
>> if he actually did close and buy the house.
>>
>> Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
>
>You have to hone up on your guessing skills. I'm guessing the deal fell through. See - it's easy!

John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
LOL-LOL
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:09:07 AM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 3:59:23 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> ...
> >
> > You have to hone up on your guessing skills. I'm guessing the deal fell through. See - it's easy!
>
> No, we pushed the close date back to 7/21.
>
> John Kuthe...

2017?


Hee hee.

John Kuthe wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 3:59:23 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> ...
> >
> > You have to hone up on your guessing skills. I'm guessing the deal
> > fell through. See - it's easy!
>
> No, we pushed the close date back to 7/21.
>
> John Kuthe...

I remember when we were buying, the seller suddenly wanted us to close
earlier than planned by 2 months. We didn't have the closing cost. He
was very pushy until we told him, 'sorry, it was a nice house but we
are backing out of it all if you want us to close 2 months early when
we do not have the money for that'.

In your case, you may be assuming repair costs early, now eating budget.

Carol

--

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
....
> John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
> LOL-LOL
> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .

We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.

I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!

And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!

John Kuthe...

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 6:44:09 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> ...
> > John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
> > LOL-LOL
> > Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
>
> We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.
>
> I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
>
> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
>
> John Kuthe...

That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting their property in compliance. That seems only right and natural. Curse you, cheap Chinese!

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 12:05:36 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
....
> That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting their property in compliance. That seems only right and natural. Curse you, cheap Chinese!

My cheap Chinese Landlord (a chemistry professor at UMSL) and his partner IN CHINA would never have agreed to that, and this house would just continue to degenerate into DUST!! I have said (maybe not here as much) that I am literally saving a small chunk of United Statesian real estate FROM THE RAPACIOUSLY MAMMON WORSHIPING CHINESE!

Some one in these United States has to do it! And I am a Rainbow Warrior so I am compelled to do this thing!!

http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths...rophecy-001577

John Kuthe...

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:05:29 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 6:44:09 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> ...
>> > John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
>> > LOL-LOL
>> > Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
>>
>> We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.
>>
>> I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
>>
>> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>
>That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting
>their property in compliance.
>That seems only right and natural.

That's how it's normally done, or the seller reduces the price by what
it would cost to comply.... however in my experience a property
needing such extensive repairs takes so long to remedy and reinspect
that typically the closing doesn't happen. It was very foolish for
John to invest in the A/C before closing.... and having A/C is not
required for a CO. But this is a rather strange deal as John lives
there so is essentially renting with the option to buy (or first right
of refusal), whereas in such a case it's normal for any future rent
paid to be subtracted from the buyer's cost. John is ready, willing,
and able to buy so he should not be penalized for the seller's
neglect. After following this transaction were it me I'd have long
ago walked away and bought a much better property. In fact I'd not
consider buying such a property, that it's for sale tells me that
college town rooming house is not at all profitable.... with all those
repairs needed it's a LOSE LOSE situation. Very often when someone
inherits cash they don't spend it wisely: Easy Come Easy Go!

On 7/12/2017 12:46 PM, wrote:

>>> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting
>> their property in compliance.
>> That seems only right and natural.
>
> That's how it's normally done, or the seller reduces the price by what
> it would cost to comply.... however in my experience a property
> needing such extensive repairs takes so long to remedy and reinspect
> that typically the closing doesn't happen. It was very foolish for
> John to invest in the A/C before closing.... and having A/C is not
> required for a CO. But this is a rather strange deal as John lives
> there so is essentially renting with the option to buy (or first right
> of refusal), whereas in such a case it's normal for any future rent
> paid to be subtracted from the buyer's cost.



Fixing the AC is probably the only thing I'd have paid for. If I'm
living there I want comfort while waiting for the closing.

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 5:15:59 AM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 12:05:36 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> ...
> > That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting their property in compliance. That seems only right and natural. Curse you, cheap Chinese!
>
> My cheap Chinese Landlord (a chemistry professor at UMSL) and his partner IN CHINA would never have agreed to that, and this house would just continue to degenerate into DUST!! I have said (maybe not here as much) that I am literally saving a small chunk of United Statesian real estate FROM THE RAPACIOUSLY MAMMON WORSHIPING CHINESE!
>
> Some one in these United States has to do it! And I am a Rainbow Warrior so I am compelled to do this thing!!
>
> http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths...rophecy-001577
>
> John Kuthe...

You think you got it bad but at least your land wasn't stolen by rich white folks. The great thing about the cheap Chinese is that they pay for property.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/...s-kauai-estate

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 6:46:15 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:05:29 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1ahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 6:44:09 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> >> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >> ...
> >> > John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
> >> > LOL-LOL
> >> > Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
> >>
> >> We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.
> >>
> >> I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
> >>
> >> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> >>
> >> John Kuthe...
> >
> >That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting
> >their property in compliance.
> >That seems only right and natural.
>
> That's how it's normally done, or the seller reduces the price by what
> it would cost to comply.... however in my experience a property
> needing such extensive repairs takes so long to remedy and reinspect
> that typically the closing doesn't happen. It was very foolish for
> John to invest in the A/C before closing.... and having A/C is not
> required for a CO. But this is a rather strange deal as John lives
> there so is essentially renting with the option to buy (or first right
> of refusal), whereas in such a case it's normal for any future rent
> paid to be subtracted from the buyer's cost. John is ready, willing,
> and able to buy so he should not be penalized for the seller's
> neglect. After following this transaction were it me I'd have long
> ago walked away and bought a much better property. In fact I'd not
> consider buying such a property, that it's for sale tells me that
> college town rooming house is not at all profitable.... with all those
> repairs needed it's a LOSE LOSE situation. Very often when someone
> inherits cash they don't spend it wisely: Easy Come Easy Go!

40 years ago my wife and I fixed up a place we were renting. It was a most awful plantation style duplex. By "plantation" style I mean it was housing for the workers, not the owners. We added carpeting and flooring and a more modern refrigerator. We were painting the place when we decided we needed to move to the mainland pronto. I did a walk through inspection with the owner the night we left. We walked down the hall and then turned around. The guy seemed like he was going to jump for joy. Well, that's the way I recall it. At the time I thought he seemed somewhat happy. The inspection took less than a minute. Most remarkable!

We get a free pass on this one because we were just dumb kids.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 7/12/2017 12:46 PM, wrote:
>
> >>> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> >>>
> >>> John Kuthe...
> >>
> >> That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting
> >> their property in compliance.
> >> That seems only right and natural.
> >
> > That's how it's normally done, or the seller reduces the price by what
> > it would cost to comply.... however in my experience a property
> > needing such extensive repairs takes so long to remedy and reinspect
> > that typically the closing doesn't happen. It was very foolish for
> > John to invest in the A/C before closing.... and having A/C is not
> > required for a CO. But this is a rather strange deal as John lives
> > there so is essentially renting with the option to buy (or first right
> > of refusal), whereas in such a case it's normal for any future rent
> > paid to be subtracted from the buyer's cost.
>
>
>
> Fixing the AC is probably the only thing I'd have paid for. If I'm
> living there I want comfort while waiting for the closing.


As it has been 100 degrees the last several days in St. Louis, having decent AC is essential, so...

I've been to many warm places, but St. Louis in summer is the hottest I've experienced...simply unbearable.


--
Best
Greg

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> ...
>> John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
>> LOL-LOL
>> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
> We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.
>
> I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
>
> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
>
> John Kuthe...


Run away from that place! You don't know how you will afford a roof!?

John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 12:05:36 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> ...
>> That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting their property in compliance. That seems only right and natural. Curse you, cheap Chinese!
> My cheap Chinese Landlord (a chemistry professor at UMSL) and his partner IN CHINA would never have agreed to that, and this house would just continue to degenerate into DUST!! I have said (maybe not here as much) that I am literally saving a small chunk of United Statesian real estate FROM THE RAPACIOUSLY MAMMON WORSHIPING CHINESE!
>
> Some one in these United States has to do it! And I am a Rainbow Warrior so I am compelled to do this thing!!
>
> http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths...rophecy-001577
>
> John Kuthe...

That will lead you to bankruptcy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:01:49 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > ...
> >> John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
> >> LOL-LOL
> >> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
> > We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points..
> >
> > I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
> >
> > And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
>
> Run away from that place! You don't know how you will afford a roof!?

The biggest leverage one can have on a sale is the ability to walk away - even if it's just an act. Letting the seller know you've swallowed the bait hook, line, and sinker puts a buyer at a distinct disadvantage.

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 12:14:17 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/12/2017 12:46 PM, wrote:
>
> >>> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> >>>
> >>> John Kuthe...
> >>
> >> That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting
> >> their property in compliance.
> >> That seems only right and natural.
> >
> > That's how it's normally done, or the seller reduces the price by what
> > it would cost to comply.... however in my experience a property
> > needing such extensive repairs takes so long to remedy and reinspect
> > that typically the closing doesn't happen. It was very foolish for
> > John to invest in the A/C before closing.... and having A/C is not
> > required for a CO. But this is a rather strange deal as John lives
> > there so is essentially renting with the option to buy (or first right
> > of refusal), whereas in such a case it's normal for any future rent
> > paid to be subtracted from the buyer's cost.
>
>
>
> Fixing the AC is probably the only thing I'd have paid for. If I'm
> living there I want comfort while waiting for the closing.

Exactly! Both central S/C systems are working wonderfully and while it was not ever excessively expensive the 1st floor unit basically ran almost 24 hours a day because it was doing a terrible job of cooling. It's gotta be cheaper now, the first floor unit actually shuts off multiple times a hot day AND keeps the inside comfortably cool! 77F We don't hang meat, yano?


John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 12:20:12 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 5:15:59 AM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 12:05:36 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > ...
> > > That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting their property in compliance. That seems only right and natural. Curse you, cheap Chinese!
> >
> > My cheap Chinese Landlord (a chemistry professor at UMSL) and his partner IN CHINA would never have agreed to that, and this house would just continue to degenerate into DUST!! I have said (maybe not here as much) that I am literally saving a small chunk of United Statesian real estate FROM THE RAPACIOUSLY MAMMON WORSHIPING CHINESE!
> >
> > Some one in these United States has to do it! And I am a Rainbow Warrior so I am compelled to do this thing!!
> >
> > http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths...rophecy-001577
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> You think you got it bad but at least your land wasn't stolen by rich white folks. The great thing about the cheap Chinese is that they pay for property.
>
> http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/...s-kauai-estate

With the money the U.S. citizens gave China by shopping at MalWart for the past 30 years!!!

Frontline expose:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontl.../walmart/view/

Music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qw64hRgLBqM

Lyrics:
http://www.lyricsvip.com/The-Reveren...re-Lyrics.html


Results: Data from http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html

U.S. Trade Imbalance with China (millions of dollars, to China)

Year Amount
1985 6
1986 1664
1987 2796
1988 3489
1989 6234
1990 10431
1991 12591
1992 18309
1993 22777
1994 29505
1995 33789
1996 39520
1997 47695
1998 56927
1999 68677
2000 83833
2001 83096
2002 103064
2003 124068
2004 161938
2005 201544
2006 232548
2007 258506
2008 268040
2009 208688
2010 273063
2011 295422
2012 315053
2013 318417
2014 342632
2015 365694

What have YOU bought for U.S. lately? ;-)


John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 12:32:33 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 6:46:15 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 22:05:29 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1ahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 6:44:09 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > >> ...
> > >> > John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
> > >> > LOL-LOL
> > >> > Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
> > >>
> > >> We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.
> > >>
> > >> I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
> > >>
> > >> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> > >>
> > >> John Kuthe...
> > >
> > >That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting
> > >their property in compliance.
> > >That seems only right and natural.
> >
> > That's how it's normally done, or the seller reduces the price by what
> > it would cost to comply.... however in my experience a property
> > needing such extensive repairs takes so long to remedy and reinspect
> > that typically the closing doesn't happen. It was very foolish for
> > John to invest in the A/C before closing.... and having A/C is not
> > required for a CO. But this is a rather strange deal as John lives
> > there so is essentially renting with the option to buy (or first right
> > of refusal), whereas in such a case it's normal for any future rent
> > paid to be subtracted from the buyer's cost. John is ready, willing,
> > and able to buy so he should not be penalized for the seller's
> > neglect. After following this transaction were it me I'd have long
> > ago walked away and bought a much better property. In fact I'd not
> > consider buying such a property, that it's for sale tells me that
> > college town rooming house is not at all profitable.... with all those
> > repairs needed it's a LOSE LOSE situation. Very often when someone
> > inherits cash they don't spend it wisely: Easy Come Easy Go!
>
> 40 years ago my wife and I fixed up a place we were renting. It was a most awful plantation style duplex. By "plantation" style I mean it was housing for the workers, not the owners. We added carpeting and flooring and a more modern refrigerator. We were painting the place when we decided we needed to move to the mainland pronto. I did a walk through inspection with the owner the night we left. We walked down the hall and then turned around. The guy seemed like he was going to jump for joy. Well, that's the way I recall it. At the time I thought he seemed somewhat happy. The inspection took less than a minute. Most remarkable!
>
> We get a free pass on this one because we were just dumb kids.

Beautiful!

John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 1:53:07 PM UTC-5, The Greatest! wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> > On 7/12/2017 12:46 PM, wrote:
> >
> > >>> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> > >>>
> > >>> John Kuthe...
> > >>
> > >> That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting
> > >> their property in compliance.
> > >> That seems only right and natural.
> > >
> > > That's how it's normally done, or the seller reduces the price by what
> > > it would cost to comply.... however in my experience a property
> > > needing such extensive repairs takes so long to remedy and reinspect
> > > that typically the closing doesn't happen. It was very foolish for
> > > John to invest in the A/C before closing.... and having A/C is not
> > > required for a CO. But this is a rather strange deal as John lives
> > > there so is essentially renting with the option to buy (or first right
> > > of refusal), whereas in such a case it's normal for any future rent
> > > paid to be subtracted from the buyer's cost.
> >
> >
> >
> > Fixing the AC is probably the only thing I'd have paid for. If I'm
> > living there I want comfort while waiting for the closing.
>
>
> As it has been 100 degrees the last several days in St. Louis, having decent AC is essential, so...
>
> I've been to many warm places, but St. Louis in summer is the hottest I've experienced...simply unbearable.
>
>
> --
> Best
> Greg

I call The Midwest "The Armpit Of The Nation"!

John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:03:47 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
> John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 12:05:36 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > ...
> >> That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting their property in compliance. That seems only right and natural.. Curse you, cheap Chinese!
> > My cheap Chinese Landlord (a chemistry professor at UMSL) and his partner IN CHINA would never have agreed to that, and this house would just continue to degenerate into DUST!! I have said (maybe not here as much) that I am literally saving a small chunk of United Statesian real estate FROM THE RAPACIOUSLY MAMMON WORSHIPING CHINESE!
> >
> > Some one in these United States has to do it! And I am a Rainbow Warrior so I am compelled to do this thing!!
> >
> > http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths...rophecy-001577
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> That will lead you to bankruptcy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I can HAVE the $$! It's just tied up in stocks right now and I'd like to keep it that way for now. Seemed to be doing good for my father, so as he taught be if it's not broke don't fix it! And know have my father's financial advisor Monty who works for Stifel Nicolaus.

John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:06:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:01:49 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
> > John Kuthe wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > > ...
> > >> John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
> > >> LOL-LOL
> > >> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
> > > We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.
> > >
> > > I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
> > >
> > > And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> >
> >
> > Run away from that place! You don't know how you will afford a roof!?
>
> The biggest leverage one can have on a sale is the ability to walk away - even if it's just an act. Letting the seller know you've swallowed the bait hook, line, and sinker puts a buyer at a distinct disadvantage.

The bargaining for price is off the table and done. Buyer )me) and sellers are in agreement of a cash price of $108,000. Now we are negotiating closing date and I am NOT letting my seller do any (more?) cheap Chinese fixes to stuff!! I'm gonna do it right!

And my housemates love me so much as their landlord they gave ME their July 2017 rent checks rather than our cheap Chinese landlord! (I just deposited those checks too, today!)

John Kuthe...

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:14:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/12/2017 12:46 PM, wrote:
>
>>>> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting
>>> their property in compliance.
>>> That seems only right and natural.
>>
>> That's how it's normally done, or the seller reduces the price by what
>> it would cost to comply.... however in my experience a property
>> needing such extensive repairs takes so long to remedy and reinspect
>> that typically the closing doesn't happen. It was very foolish for
>> John to invest in the A/C before closing.... and having A/C is not
>> required for a CO. But this is a rather strange deal as John lives
>> there so is essentially renting with the option to buy (or first right
>> of refusal), whereas in such a case it's normal for any future rent
>> paid to be subtracted from the buyer's cost.
>
>Fixing the AC is probably the only thing I'd have paid for. If I'm
>living there I want comfort while waiting for the closing.

I thought of that but then I would have bought a window unit that I
could take with me when the deal falls through, which it will. The
buyer repairing the seller's house to make it salable is the most
asinine thing I've ever heard. John Kootchie is far more an ignoranus
imbecile than I had previously thought... he's of the scale of the
most ignoring putz on the planet.

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 3:34:44 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:06:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:01:49 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
> > > John Kuthe wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > >> John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
> > > >> LOL-LOL
> > > >> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
> > > > We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.
> > > >
> > > > I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
> > > >
> > > > And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> > > >
> > > > John Kuthe...
> > >
> > >
> > > Run away from that place! You don't know how you will afford a roof!?
> >
> > The biggest leverage one can have on a sale is the ability to walk away - even if it's just an act. Letting the seller know you've swallowed the bait hook, line, and sinker puts a buyer at a distinct disadvantage.
>
> The bargaining for price is off the table and done. Buyer )me) and sellers are in agreement of a cash price of $108,000. Now we are negotiating closing date and I am NOT letting my seller do any (more?) cheap Chinese fixes to stuff!! I'm gonna do it right!
>
> And my housemates love me so much as their landlord they gave ME their July 2017 rent checks rather than our cheap Chinese landlord! (I just deposited those checks too, today!)
>
> John Kuthe...

This gets nuttier and nuttier. Now I've heard everything!

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 9:15:29 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:14:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
....
> >Fixing the AC is probably the only thing I'd have paid for. If I'm
> >living there I want comfort while waiting for the closing.
>
> I thought of that but then I would have bought a window unit that I
> could take with me when the deal falls through, which it will. The
> buyer repairing the seller's house to make it salable is the most
> asinine thing I've ever heard. John Kootchie is far more an ignoranus
> imbecile than I had previously thought... he's of the scale of the
> most ignoring putz on the planet.

I'm sorry your so confused Brother, and I mean that in the Rainbow Tribe sense:

http://www.ancient-origins.net/myths...rophecy-001577

I am EVIDENTLY a "card carrying" member:

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...3d&oe=5A0E4D46

John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 9:22:44 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 3:34:44 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:06:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:01:49 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
> > > > John Kuthe wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > > ...
> > > > >> John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
> > > > >> LOL-LOL
> > > > >> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
> > > > > We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
> > > > >
> > > > > And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> > > > >
> > > > > John Kuthe...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Run away from that place! You don't know how you will afford a roof!?
> > >
> > > The biggest leverage one can have on a sale is the ability to walk away - even if it's just an act. Letting the seller know you've swallowed the bait hook, line, and sinker puts a buyer at a distinct disadvantage.
> >
> > The bargaining for price is off the table and done. Buyer )me) and sellers are in agreement of a cash price of $108,000. Now we are negotiating closing date and I am NOT letting my seller do any (more?) cheap Chinese fixes to stuff!! I'm gonna do it right!
> >
> > And my housemates love me so much as their landlord they gave ME their July 2017 rent checks rather than our cheap Chinese landlord! (I just deposited those checks too, today!)
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> This gets nuttier and nuttier. Now I've heard everything!

I've always said My Reality often beats Your Fantasies! And both checks were from THE two most attractive young ladies living here! :-) Use your imagination just keep your mind out of MY GUTTER! :-)

John Kuthe...

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 4:43:41 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 9:22:44 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 3:34:44 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:06:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:01:49 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
> > > > > John Kuthe wrote:
> > > > > > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > >> John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
> > > > > >> LOL-LOL
> > > > > >> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
> > > > > > We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John Kuthe...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Run away from that place! You don't know how you will afford a roof!?
> > > >
> > > > The biggest leverage one can have on a sale is the ability to walk away - even if it's just an act. Letting the seller know you've swallowed the bait hook, line, and sinker puts a buyer at a distinct disadvantage.
> > >
> > > The bargaining for price is off the table and done. Buyer )me) and sellers are in agreement of a cash price of $108,000. Now we are negotiating closing date and I am NOT letting my seller do any (more?) cheap Chinese fixes to stuff!! I'm gonna do it right!
> > >
> > > And my housemates love me so much as their landlord they gave ME their July 2017 rent checks rather than our cheap Chinese landlord! (I just deposited those checks too, today!)
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> >
> > This gets nuttier and nuttier. Now I've heard everything!
>
> I've always said My Reality often beats Your Fantasies! And both checks were from THE two most attractive young ladies living here! :-) Use your imagination just keep your mind out of MY GUTTER! :-)
>
> John Kuthe...

Hoo hoo hoo!

On 7/12/2017 10:15 PM, wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 13:14:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
>> On 7/12/2017 12:46 PM, wrote:
>>
>>>>> And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
>>>>>
>>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>>
>>>> That's kind of goofy. I would have made the sale contingent on the owners getting
>>>> their property in compliance.
>>>> That seems only right and natural.
>>>
>>> That's how it's normally done, or the seller reduces the price by what
>>> it would cost to comply.... however in my experience a property
>>> needing such extensive repairs takes so long to remedy and reinspect
>>> that typically the closing doesn't happen. It was very foolish for
>>> John to invest in the A/C before closing.... and having A/C is not
>>> required for a CO. But this is a rather strange deal as John lives
>>> there so is essentially renting with the option to buy (or first right
>>> of refusal), whereas in such a case it's normal for any future rent
>>> paid to be subtracted from the buyer's cost.
>>
>> Fixing the AC is probably the only thing I'd have paid for. If I'm
>> living there I want comfort while waiting for the closing.
>
> I thought of that but then I would have bought a window unit
(snip)

I would have done that too, just for my personal space in the house.
Until and if and when the deal closes. He seems determined to spend a
bunch of money on a house he doesn't even own yet.

Jill

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 9:57:49 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
....
> I would have done that too, just for my personal space in the house.
> Until and if and when the deal closes. He seems determined to spend a
> bunch of money on a house he doesn't even own yet.
>
> Jill

I AM getting my carpenter friend Tim to replace all the windows in the house starting with top of the line argon gas filled double hung tilt in for cleaning Made In USA windows that WORK! Then Tim will install good USA made but less expensive windows in the other rooms! For a VERY good price!

John Kuthe...

On 7/11/2017 8:51 AM, Gary wrote:
> Did you buy your house?
>
> You've told us all about it. Some of us would like to know how it turned
> out. I'm curious.
>
>
Having read through the answers, it sounds ridiculous to me. Failed
inspection! That alone should tell him it's a stupid idea.

He's spending money to improve a house he doesn't even own yet. From
the outside, the pics I saw, it does look charming. But he doesn't know
what it will cost to restore those broken mediterranean style tiles on
the roof. Plus there's bound to be some work on the roof that needs
done underneath.

I'd want AC in my living space, sure. But I wouldn't pay to air
condition an entire house I didn't own. Are there still roommates
living there? Get them to pay for it.

You don't own it yet, John! You're being suckered into upgrading a
house someone else owns. Just too wacked out to realize it.

Jill

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 10:11:13 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> On 7/11/2017 8:51 AM, Gary wrote:
> > Did you buy your house?
> >
> > You've told us all about it. Some of us would like to know how it turned
> > out. I'm curious.
> >
> >
> Having read through the answers, it sounds ridiculous to me. Failed
> inspection! That alone should tell him it's a stupid idea.
>
> He's spending money to improve a house he doesn't even own yet. From
> the outside, the pics I saw, it does look charming. But he doesn't know
> what it will cost to restore those broken mediterranean style tiles on
> the roof. Plus there's bound to be some work on the roof that needs
> done underneath.

Yes there undoubtedly IS because my cheap Chinese landlord paid a stupid cheap local "handiman" (and I use the term loosely as once I was watching him load masonry caulk into his caulking gun, looked down the barrel squeezed the handle and got a shot of masonry caulk in his eyes!) goop from a 5 gallon bucket thick black roofing goop all over a bunch of the beautiful red clay 1/2 pipe current roofing tiles! The ****ers!

That's why I have an appt with Beal Roofing for next week Thurs July 20 to get an estimate on repair and restoration.

>
> I'd want AC in my living space, sure. But I wouldn't pay to air
> condition an entire house I didn't own. Are there still roommates
> living there? Get them to pay for it.

You don't understand. I assured all my other housemates that I wanted for them as little to change for them and certainly nothing negative, only positive changes, Like a fully functioning A/C system, etc!

>
> You don't own it yet, John! You're being suckered into upgrading a
> house someone else owns. Just too wacked out to realize it.
>
> Jill

Ah, you nattering naysayers of negativism! ;-)

John Kuthe...

In article >,
says...
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 7:06:24 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:01:49 PM UTC-10, Alex wrote:
> > > John Kuthe wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:31:34 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> > > > ...
> > > >> John will let us know WHEN HE'S READY... it's the FERRET SYNDROME.
> > > >> LOL-LOL
> > > >> Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah aha. . . . .
> > > > We (me and sellers) signed a closing date extension to July 21 and may have to push it back further depending on how much work I can get contracted to do because that satisfies the occupancy permit inspector's fail points.
> > > >
> > > > I know how this works, This is designed to prevent real estate properties from declining into dust if at all possible, and I wanna restore the red clay 1/2 pipe roof and brick and tile front porch back to original or better condition, and it's gonna be expensive. But I will find a way to do it!
> > > >
> > > > And the $375 A/C repair today did wonders!! The first floor A/C is actually functioning as it should and keeping the first floor at 77F which is it's setpoint. And I even turned it down to 76F for nighttime! YUM!! And it does it easily now!!
> > > >
> > > > John Kuthe...
> > >
> > >
> > > Run away from that place! You don't know how you will afford a roof!?
> >
> > The biggest leverage one can have on a sale is the ability to walk away - even if it's just an act. Letting the seller know you've swallowed the bait hook, line, and sinker puts a buyer at a distinct disadvantage.
>
> The bargaining for price is off the table and done. Buyer )me) and sellers are in agreement of a cash
price of $108,000.

A price you agreed to, apparently before you had a clue what the
essential repairs were and what they would cost. Now you're naively
paying for those repairs to a property YOU DON'T OWN.

>Now we are negotiating closing date and I am NOT letting my seller do
>any (more?) cheap Chinese fixes to stuff!! I'm gonna do it right!

IMO you're being suckered left right and centre by someone who is
probably taking advantage of your mental health disability.

> And my housemates love me so much as their landlord they gave ME
their July 2017 rent checks rather than our cheap Chinese landlord! (I
just deposited those checks too, today!)

Just wait till the Chinese OWNER of the property finds out HIS
tenants didn't pay HIM their rent this month.

Janet UK.

In article >,
says...
>
> On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 9:57:49 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> ...
> > I would have done that too, just for my personal space in the house.
> > Until and if and when the deal closes. He seems determined to spend a
> > bunch of money on a house he doesn't even own yet.
> >
> > Jill
>
> I AM getting my carpenter friend Tim to replace all the windows in the house starting with top
of the line argon gas filled double hung tilt in for cleaning Made In
USA windows that WORK! Then Tim will install good USA made but less
expensive windows in the other rooms! For a VERY good price!

Right; so then (even though you don't own the property he worked on)
you owe money to your carpenter frient Tim.


Janet UK

Janet wrote:
> says...
>> And my housemates love me so much as their landlord they gave ME
> their July 2017 rent checks rather than our cheap Chinese landlord! (I
> just deposited those checks too, today!)
>
> Just wait till the Chinese OWNER of the property finds out HIS
> tenants didn't pay HIM their rent this month.

I was thinking the same thing. John is not the owner yet and the chinese
owner gets the rent until then.

This really does sound like a fail-fail situation. Maybe John should
stop right now, swallow his losses and go look for a better house to
buy. This entire deal with all the future repairs sounds so not right to me.

No sane person would ever fix up a house until after closing and they
own it. The chinese landlord is probably loving all this insane nonsense.

John...he could even cancel the sale after you spend half your fortune
fixing up HIS house. Wake up.

On 2017-07-13 8:15 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article >,
> says...

>
> IMO you're being suckered left right and centre by someone who is
> probably taking advantage of your mental health disability.
>
>> And my housemates love me so much as their landlord they gave ME
> their July 2017 rent checks rather than our cheap Chinese landlord! (I
> just deposited those checks too, today!)
>
> Just wait till the Chinese OWNER of the property finds out HIS
> tenants didn't pay HIM their rent this month.
>

This is another example of the strange world he creates for himself.

On 7/12/2017 2:52 PM, The Greatest! wrote:
> I've been to many warm places
>

WTF does your shirt say, fatboy?

http://imgur.com/a/J8EE3 LOL!