On 4/29/2017 9:20 PM, Alex wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 4/29/2017 11:46 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 21:36:56 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/28/2017 4:20 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>>>> wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sqwertz wrote:
>>>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wayne, thankfully you missed the useless pseudo-sexual blethering
>>>>>>> former
>>>>>>> roommate war between John Kuthe and Bryan whatever his name was.
>>>>>>> That
>>>>>>> was a real call for killfiles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know you read most of it! ;-) Wayne may remember Bryan
>>>>>> Simmons as
>>>>>> "Food Snob" (AKA "Food Slob").
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>
>>>>> Has to remember Bryan as TFM (The Fat Man), and tons of posts over a
>>>>> long time about Christy (Kilikini)... both their pics are still at the
>>>>> RFC web site.
>>>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.org/mug/shot/TFM%28R%29.jpg
>>>>> http://www.recfoodcooking.org/memoriam.html
>>>>>
>>>>> ==
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, and more than one died
>>>>>
>>>> Bryan was/is not TFM.
>>>
>>> Yes. Bryan and TFM were/are very different people. Sheldon is
>>> showing his senility.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>> TFM's name is Allen. Anyone who knew Kristy well knows that.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Alan.

Spelling mistake. Not like I care, but I do know he wasn't Bryan. I
also knew kili was planning to dump Alan's sorry ass.

Jill

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:57:06 -0500, Sqwertz >
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:32:59 -0600, graham wrote:
>
>> On 2017-04-29 1:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

>>> You were aware that he died since you said farewell to him when it was
>>> first posted.
>>>
>>> The theory that his death was self-inflicted is just that, a theory.
>>> But not without merit considering his odd mental state, as you note.
>>> It was clear that while he was usually happy before 2:PM, his rare
>>> posts after 3:PM indicated he definitely had some inner demons.
>>>
>> That's a completely baseless assertion!
>
>No, It's most certainly not. Andy went off on more than handful of
>people here, babbling and talking nonsense. This is a fact that most
>people who've been here should remember. So don't get all indignant.
>
>I'd bet money that he killed himself. All the writing was there in
>big black letters on a white wall.

Have you ever thought about a career change? Editor of a gossip
magazine?

On 4/29/2017 5:32 PM, graham wrote:
> On 2017-04-29 1:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:55:38 -0400, wrote:
>>
>>> Gary wrote:
>> ?
>>>> I notice that the page was updated to include Janet Wilder. Why isn't
>>>> Andy on the list. He was a big part of this group once until he offed
>>>> himself on New Years day.
>>>
>>> Obviously no one reported his demise to the web site admin.
>>> This is the first I'm hearing about Andy ending it all, I figured he
>>> got bored and decided to unceremoniously move on, same as so many
>>> others have.
>>
>> You were aware that he died since you said farewell to him when it was
>> first posted.
>>
>> The theory that his death was self-inflicted is just that, a theory.
>> But not without merit considering his odd mental state, as you note.
>> It was clear that while he was usually happy before 2:PM, his rare
>> posts after 3:PM indicated he definitely had some inner demons.
>>
> That's a completely baseless assertion!

Not really. Steve did find Andy's obituary. If you want proof he had
problems, I can tell you. Andy was calling me constantly, in some sort
of manic-depressive state. He seemed to think I was his girlfriend. I
never met the man in my life. One day he called just to ask my middle
name. I don't have one. "How come I find Jill M. McQuown when I do a
search?" Uh... I don't know. And why the heck are you Googling me?

For a while, he called me several times a day. Sometimes just minutes
apart. He'd be all Sad Sak when I wouldn't answer the phone. He'd
leave me long, rambling messages. One minute he was "oh... guess you
don't ever want to talk to me again". Then he'd call back all bright
and cheery, "Hey! How are you! Just wanted to say hi!"

He would not listen when I politely asked him to stop. I emailed him,
asked him to stop. He didn't reply to the email. I finally had to call
him out about it here on RFC.

There was definitely something wrong with him. It's not a huge leap to
suspect he killed himself. He probably needed to be on some sort of
medication.

Jill

On 2017-04-29 10:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> That's a completely baseless assertion!
>
> Not really. Steve did find Andy's obituary. If you want proof he had
> problems, I can tell you. Andy was calling me constantly, in some sort
> of manic-depressive state. He seemed to think I was his girlfriend. I
> never met the man in my life. One day he called just to ask my middle
> name. I don't have one. "How come I find Jill M. McQuown when I do a
> search?" Uh... I don't know. And why the heck are you Googling me?
>
> For a while, he called me several times a day. Sometimes just minutes
> apart. He'd be all Sad Sak when I wouldn't answer the phone. He'd
> leave me long, rambling messages. One minute he was "oh... guess you
> don't ever want to talk to me again". Then he'd call back all bright
> and cheery, "Hey! How are you! Just wanted to say hi!"
>
> He would not listen when I politely asked him to stop. I emailed him,
> asked him to stop. He didn't reply to the email. I finally had to call
> him out about it here on RFC.
>
> There was definitely something wrong with him. It's not a huge leap to
> suspect he killed himself. He probably needed to be on some sort of
> medication.

Not surprising. He used to go to chat and would be hitting on the women
and then freaked out when they ignored him.

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:13:18 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 4/29/2017 5:32 PM, graham wrote:

>> That's a completely baseless assertion!
>
>Not really. Steve did find Andy's obituary. If you want proof he had
>problems, I can tell you. Andy was calling me constantly, in some sort
>of manic-depressive state. He seemed to think I was his girlfriend. I
>never met the man in my life. One day he called just to ask my middle
>name. I don't have one. "How come I find Jill M. McQuown when I do a
>search?" Uh... I don't know. And why the heck are you Googling me?
>
>For a while, he called me several times a day. Sometimes just minutes
>apart. He'd be all Sad Sak when I wouldn't answer the phone. He'd
>leave me long, rambling messages. One minute he was "oh... guess you
>don't ever want to talk to me again". Then he'd call back all bright
>and cheery, "Hey! How are you! Just wanted to say hi!"
>
>He would not listen when I politely asked him to stop. I emailed him,
>asked him to stop. He didn't reply to the email. I finally had to call
>him out about it here on RFC.
>
>There was definitely something wrong with him. It's not a huge leap to
>suspect he killed himself. He probably needed to be on some sort of
>medication.

Even people with mental problems can have heart attacks.

On 4/29/2017 9:57 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:32:59 -0600, graham wrote:
>
>> On 2017-04-29 1:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:55:38 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>> ?
>>>>> I notice that the page was updated to include Janet Wilder. Why isn't
>>>>> Andy on the list. He was a big part of this group once until he offed
>>>>> himself on New Years day.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously no one reported his demise to the web site admin.
>>>> This is the first I'm hearing about Andy ending it all, I figured he
>>>> got bored and decided to unceremoniously move on, same as so many
>>>> others have.
>>>
>>> You were aware that he died since you said farewell to him when it was
>>> first posted.
>>>
>>> The theory that his death was self-inflicted is just that, a theory.
>>> But not without merit considering his odd mental state, as you note.
>>> It was clear that while he was usually happy before 2:PM, his rare
>>> posts after 3:PM indicated he definitely had some inner demons.
>>>
>> That's a completely baseless assertion!
>
> No, It's most certainly not. Andy went off on more than handful of
> people here, babbling and talking nonsense. This is a fact that most
> people who've been here should remember. So don't get all indignant.
>
> I'd bet money that he killed himself. All the writing was there in
> big black letters on a white wall.
>
> -sw
>
Whether he did or didn't, I know there was something wrong with Andy.
What about that bread he squished because the store didn't have exactly
what he wanted?

Don't forget him calling me on the phone. He had some delusion that I
was his girlfriend. Never mind I stopped answering my phone. He'd
leave long rambling messages... Sometimes up, sometimes down.

The guy had problems.

Jill

On 4/29/2017 10:18 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-04-29 10:13 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>> That's a completely baseless assertion!
>>
>> Not really. Steve did find Andy's obituary. If you want proof he had
>> problems, I can tell you. Andy was calling me constantly, in some
>> sort of manic-depressive state. He seemed to think I was his
>> girlfriend. I never met the man in my life. One day he called just
>> to ask my middle name. I don't have one. "How come I find Jill M.
>> McQuown when I do a search?" Uh... I don't know. And why the heck
>> are you Googling me?
>>
>> For a while, he called me several times a day. Sometimes just minutes
>> apart. He'd be all Sad Sak when I wouldn't answer the phone. He'd
>> leave me long, rambling messages. One minute he was "oh... guess you
>> don't ever want to talk to me again". Then he'd call back all bright
>> and cheery, "Hey! How are you! Just wanted to say hi!"
>>
>> He would not listen when I politely asked him to stop. I emailed him,
>> asked him to stop. He didn't reply to the email. I finally had to
>> call him out about it here on RFC.
>>
>> There was definitely something wrong with him. It's not a huge leap
>> to suspect he killed himself. He probably needed to be on some sort
>> of medication.
>
> Not surprising. He used to go to chat and would be hitting on the women
> and then freaked out when they ignored him.

I think I'd given up RFC chat by then!

He had bouts of anger, I know that. I don't think he was at all a
stable person.

Jill

On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:26:35 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 4/29/2017 9:57 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:32:59 -0600, graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-04-29 1:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:55:38 -0400, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> ?
>>>>>> I notice that the page was updated to include Janet Wilder. Why isn't
>>>>>> Andy on the list. He was a big part of this group once until he offed
>>>>>> himself on New Years day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously no one reported his demise to the web site admin.
>>>>> This is the first I'm hearing about Andy ending it all, I figured he
>>>>> got bored and decided to unceremoniously move on, same as so many
>>>>> others have.
>>>>
>>>> You were aware that he died since you said farewell to him when it was
>>>> first posted.
>>>>
>>>> The theory that his death was self-inflicted is just that, a theory.
>>>> But not without merit considering his odd mental state, as you note.
>>>> It was clear that while he was usually happy before 2:PM, his rare
>>>> posts after 3:PM indicated he definitely had some inner demons.
>>>>
>>> That's a completely baseless assertion!
>>
>> No, It's most certainly not. Andy went off on more than handful of
>> people here, babbling and talking nonsense. This is a fact that most
>> people who've been here should remember. So don't get all indignant.
>>
>> I'd bet money that he killed himself. All the writing was there in
>> big black letters on a white wall.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>Whether he did or didn't, I know there was something wrong with Andy.
>What about that bread he squished because the store didn't have exactly
>what he wanted?
>
>Don't forget him calling me on the phone. He had some delusion that I
>was his girlfriend. Never mind I stopped answering my phone. He'd
>leave long rambling messages... Sometimes up, sometimes down.

-Squishing bread.
-Calling McBiddy on the phone.

Ok, it must have been suicide.

"jmcquown" > wrote in message
news
> On 4/29/2017 5:32 PM, graham wrote:
>> On 2017-04-29 1:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:55:38 -0400, wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gary wrote:
>>> ?
>>>>> I notice that the page was updated to include Janet Wilder. Why isn't
>>>>> Andy on the list. He was a big part of this group once until he offed
>>>>> himself on New Years day.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously no one reported his demise to the web site admin.
>>>> This is the first I'm hearing about Andy ending it all, I figured he
>>>> got bored and decided to unceremoniously move on, same as so many
>>>> others have.
>>>
>>> You were aware that he died since you said farewell to him when it was
>>> first posted.
>>>
>>> The theory that his death was self-inflicted is just that, a theory.
>>> But not without merit considering his odd mental state, as you note.
>>> It was clear that while he was usually happy before 2:PM, his rare
>>> posts after 3:PM indicated he definitely had some inner demons.
>>>
>> That's a completely baseless assertion!
>
> Not really. Steve did find Andy's obituary. If you want proof he had
> problems, I can tell you. Andy was calling me constantly, in some sort of
> manic-depressive state. He seemed to think I was his girlfriend. I never
> met the man in my life. One day he called just to ask my middle name. I
> don't have one. "How come I find Jill M. McQuown when I do a search?"
> Uh... I don't know. And why the heck are you Googling me?
>
> For a while, he called me several times a day. Sometimes just minutes
> apart. He'd be all Sad Sak when I wouldn't answer the phone. He'd leave
> me long, rambling messages. One minute he was "oh... guess you don't ever
> want to talk to me again". Then he'd call back all bright and cheery,
> "Hey! How are you! Just wanted to say hi!"
>
> He would not listen when I politely asked him to stop. I emailed him,
> asked him to stop. He didn't reply to the email. I finally had to call
> him out about it here on RFC.
>
> There was definitely something wrong with him. It's not a huge leap to
> suspect he killed himself. He probably needed to be on some sort of
> medication.
>
> Jill

I got along with him just fine for a long time. But then he went off on me
for some reason. Can't remember why now. I think he took something that I
said and twisted it into something else and then went all hateful on me.
IIRC, this was not long before he died.

"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:13:18 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>>On 4/29/2017 5:32 PM, graham wrote:
>
>>> That's a completely baseless assertion!
>>
>>Not really. Steve did find Andy's obituary. If you want proof he had
>>problems, I can tell you. Andy was calling me constantly, in some sort
>>of manic-depressive state. He seemed to think I was his girlfriend. I
>>never met the man in my life. One day he called just to ask my middle
>>name. I don't have one. "How come I find Jill M. McQuown when I do a
>>search?" Uh... I don't know. And why the heck are you Googling me?
>>
>>For a while, he called me several times a day. Sometimes just minutes
>>apart. He'd be all Sad Sak when I wouldn't answer the phone. He'd
>>leave me long, rambling messages. One minute he was "oh... guess you
>>don't ever want to talk to me again". Then he'd call back all bright
>>and cheery, "Hey! How are you! Just wanted to say hi!"
>>
>>He would not listen when I politely asked him to stop. I emailed him,
>>asked him to stop. He didn't reply to the email. I finally had to call
>>him out about it here on RFC.
>>
>>There was definitely something wrong with him. It's not a huge leap to
>>suspect he killed himself. He probably needed to be on some sort of
>>medication.
>
> Even people with mental problems can have heart attacks.

True and I think he did have medical problems although I can't recall now
what they were.

In article >, says...
>
> On 4/29/2017 5:32 PM, graham wrote:
> > On 2017-04-29 1:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:55:38 -0400, wrote:
> >>
> >>> Gary wrote:
> >> ?
> >>>> I notice that the page was updated to include Janet Wilder. Why isn't
> >>>> Andy on the list. He was a big part of this group once until he offed
> >>>> himself on New Years day.
> >>>
> >>> Obviously no one reported his demise to the web site admin.
> >>> This is the first I'm hearing about Andy ending it all, I figured he
> >>> got bored and decided to unceremoniously move on, same as so many
> >>> others have.
> >>
> >> You were aware that he died since you said farewell to him when it was
> >> first posted.
> >>
> >> The theory that his death was self-inflicted is just that, a theory.
> >> But not without merit considering his odd mental state, as you note.
> >> It was clear that while he was usually happy before 2:PM, his rare
> >> posts after 3:PM indicated he definitely had some inner demons.
> >>
> > That's a completely baseless assertion!
>
> Not really. Steve did find Andy's obituary.

No, he did NOT. Steve found Andy's estate report, which is not an
obituary, and it did not give the date or cause of death.

There are many diseases of middle-age that result in sudden death
after longterm stress/anxiety, such as stroke and heart attack.

Janet UK

In article >, says...

> Whether he did or didn't, I know there was something wrong with Andy.


Alcoholism, drug addiction, badly managed diabetes, heavy pain
medication, stroke, all produce the variable behaviours you describe.
They can also, all result in sudden death.

Janet UK

On 4/30/2017 12:03 AM, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> "jmcquown" > wrote in message
> news
>> On 4/29/2017 5:32 PM, graham wrote:
>>> On 2017-04-29 1:46 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:55:38 -0400, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gary wrote:
>>>> ?
>>>>>> I notice that the page was updated to include Janet Wilder. Why isn't
>>>>>> Andy on the list. He was a big part of this group once until he offed
>>>>>> himself on New Years day.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously no one reported his demise to the web site admin.
>>>>> This is the first I'm hearing about Andy ending it all, I figured he
>>>>> got bored and decided to unceremoniously move on, same as so many
>>>>> others have.
>>>>
>>>> You were aware that he died since you said farewell to him when it was
>>>> first posted.
>>>>
>>>> The theory that his death was self-inflicted is just that, a theory.
>>>> But not without merit considering his odd mental state, as you note.
>>>> It was clear that while he was usually happy before 2:PM, his rare
>>>> posts after 3:PM indicated he definitely had some inner demons.
>>>>
>>> That's a completely baseless assertion!
>>
>> Not really. Steve did find Andy's obituary. If you want proof he had
>> problems, I can tell you. Andy was calling me constantly, in some
>> sort of manic-depressive state. He seemed to think I was his
>> girlfriend. I never met the man in my life. One day he called just
>> to ask my middle name. I don't have one. "How come I find Jill M.
>> McQuown when I do a search?" Uh... I don't know. And why the heck are
>> you Googling me?
>>
>> For a while, he called me several times a day. Sometimes just minutes
>> apart. He'd be all Sad Sak when I wouldn't answer the phone. He'd
>> leave me long, rambling messages. One minute he was "oh... guess you
>> don't ever want to talk to me again". Then he'd call back all bright
>> and cheery, "Hey! How are you! Just wanted to say hi!"
>>
>> He would not listen when I politely asked him to stop. I emailed him,
>> asked him to stop. He didn't reply to the email. I finally had to
>> call him out about it here on RFC.
>>
>> There was definitely something wrong with him. It's not a huge leap
>> to suspect he killed himself. He probably needed to be on some sort
>> of medication.
>>
>> Jill
>
> I got along with him just fine for a long time. But then he went off on
> me for some reason. Can't remember why now. I think he took something
> that I said and twisted it into something else and then went all hateful
> on me. IIRC, this was not long before he died.
>

He used to be OK, but towards the end he got really nasty. He is the
only RFC person I put in the kill file. Sad, really that a person has
the problems he had. Did he do himself in? Good possibility given his
mental state.

On 4/29/2017 2:27 PM, Janet wrote:
> In article >, says...
>
>> I notice that the page was updated to include Janet Wilder. Why isn't
>> Andy on the list. He was a big part of this group once until he offed
>> himself on New Years day.
>
> Of all the crap you've ever posted, Gary, that beats all. So
> much for all those maudling posts about the death of your ferret,
> begging for sympathy and support, eh?

You are showing your dark side again, Janet.

On 4/30/2017 1:35 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:20:52 -0400, Alex wrote:
>
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>> TFM's name is Allen. Anyone who knew Kristy well knows that.
>>
>> Alan.
>
> Actually, he does spell it Allen. I remember because it's exactly the
> wrong way that I spell my middle name (Alan - one L followed by an A).
>
> https://floridaresidentdb.com/person...n_keith_tipton
>
> Never knew his middle name was Keith. How *** <snork>.
>
> -sw
>
You say potato... kili was planning to leave him. Then she got
sick. TFM simply wouldn't work. She complained to me constantly about
him getting so drunk he'd forget to pick her up when *she* got off work.
What a guy!

I knew her better than many people here know. I don't like talking on
the phone but kili is someone I did talk to. She made a bad choice and
was trying to find a way out. She was estranged from her mother (who
thought she never should have left her - according to kili - abusive
boyfriend Greg in Maui - until it was clear she was dying). She didn't
get any help from the worthless TFM or his family. I felt sorry for
her. BUT... she also jumped into marriage with some guy she met on a
BBQ newsgroup. She was mostly vegetarian so why she thought Allen was
*all that* is a mystery. Anyone else remember her complaining about him
making her go to the "stinky meat store"?

Imagine forcing Bruce to spend the day in a butcher shop. Must have
been like that. RIP, kili. Rot in hell, Allen Tipton.

Jill

On 4/29/2017 9:57 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

> No, It's most certainly not. Andy went off on more than handful of
> people here, babbling and talking nonsense. This is a fact that most
> people who've been here should remember. So don't get all indignant.
>
> I'd bet money that he killed himself. All the writing was there in
> big black letters on a white wall.

Do you remember the date, wasn't it New Year's?

nancy

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 4/30/2017 1:35 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:20:52 -0400, Alex wrote:
> >
> > > jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> > > > TFM's name is Allen. Anyone who knew Kristy well knows that.
> > >
> > > Alan.
> >
> > Actually, he does spell it Allen. I remember because it's exactly
> > the wrong way that I spell my middle name (Alan - one L followed by
> > an A).
> >
> > https://floridaresidentdb.com/person...n_keith_tipton
> >
> > Never knew his middle name was Keith. How *** <snork>.
> >
> > -sw
> >
> You say potato... kili was planning to leave him. Then she got
> sick. TFM simply wouldn't work. She complained to me constantly
> about him getting so drunk he'd forget to pick her up when she got
> off work. What a guy!
>
> I knew her better than many people here know. I don't like talking
> on the phone but kili is someone I did talk to. She made a bad
> choice and was trying to find a way out. She was estranged from her
> mother (who thought she never should have left her - according to
> kili - abusive boyfriend Greg in Maui - until it was clear she was
> dying). She didn't get any help from the worthless TFM or his
> family. I felt sorry for her. BUT... she also jumped into marriage
> with some guy she met on a BBQ newsgroup. She was mostly vegetarian
> so why she thought Allen was *all that* is a mystery. Anyone else
> remember her complaining about him making her go to the "stinky meat
> store"?
>
> Imagine forcing Bruce to spend the day in a butcher shop. Must have
> been like that. RIP, kili. Rot in hell, Allen Tipton.
>
> Jill

I remember Kili, Allen was a PITA.

--

On 2017-04-30, cshenk > wrote:

> I remember Kili,

As do I. I spent a lotta time on the phone, with Kili, but she never
confided in me, like she did Jill. I do know it was a tragic case.

> Allen was a PITA.

I never liked the guy, personally, but did not really know him. In
fact, I wasn't even aware he committed suicide.

nb

On 4/30/2017 1:57 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-04-30, cshenk > wrote:
>
>> I remember Kili,
>
> As do I. I spent a lotta time on the phone, with Kili, but she never
> confided in me, like she did Jill. I do know it was a tragic case.
>
>> Allen was a PITA.
>
> I never liked the guy, personally, but did not really know him. In
> fact, I wasn't even aware he committed suicide.
>
> nb
>
Uh... Allen (kili's husband) didn't commit suicide.

Jill

On 4/30/2017 1:57 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-04-30, cshenk > wrote:
>
>> I remember Kili,
>
> As do I. I spent a lotta time on the phone, with Kili, but she never
> confided in me, like she did Jill. I do know it was a tragic case.
>
That's because you're a guy. She likely wouldn't have told you how
unhappy she was. IMHO, she made a big mistake marrying Allen, but truth
be told she was unhappy before that. It seemed to me she was always
insecure. Always running towards something, only to find she'd gone
from the frying pan into the fire. Poor thing. She was sweet and kind,
but also very naive.

Jill

notbob wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 2017-04-30, cshenk > wrote:
>
> > I remember Kili,
>
> As do I. I spent a lotta time on the phone, with Kili, but she never
> confided in me, like she did Jill. I do know it was a tragic case.
>
> > Allen was a PITA.
>
> I never liked the guy, personally, but did not really know him. In
> fact, I wasn't even aware he committed suicide.
>
> nb

We just have someone here saying he did recently. We don't know if he
actually did, best I can recall. He may well have, but there's no
memory stirring that back then it was known. Motly I recall the back
of a car window with a memorial.

Carol


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On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:51:08 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

>On 4/30/2017 1:35 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:20:52 -0400, Alex wrote:
>>
>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>
>>>> TFM's name is Allen. Anyone who knew Kristy well knows that.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>
>> Actually, he does spell it Allen. I remember because it's exactly the
>> wrong way that I spell my middle name (Alan - one L followed by an A).
>>
>> https://floridaresidentdb.com/person...n_keith_tipton
>>
>> Never knew his middle name was Keith. How *** <snork>.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>You say potato... kili was planning to leave him. Then she got
>sick. TFM simply wouldn't work. She complained to me constantly about
>him getting so drunk he'd forget to pick her up when *she* got off work.
> What a guy!
>
>I knew her better than many people here know. I don't like talking on
>the phone but kili is someone I did talk to. She made a bad choice and
>was trying to find a way out. She was estranged from her mother (who
>thought she never should have left her - according to kili - abusive
>boyfriend Greg in Maui - until it was clear she was dying). She didn't
>get any help from the worthless TFM or his family. I felt sorry for
>her. BUT... she also jumped into marriage with some guy she met on a
>BBQ newsgroup. She was mostly vegetarian so why she thought Allen was
>*all that* is a mystery. Anyone else remember her complaining about him
>making her go to the "stinky meat store"?
>
>Imagine forcing Bruce to spend the day in a butcher shop. Must have
>been like that. RIP, kili. Rot in hell, Allen Tipton.
>
>Jill
I didn't know any of that.
If Alien Tipton is dead his picture should be removed from Mugs.

On 2017-04-30, jmcquown > wrote:

> That's because you're a guy.

Yeah, it wasn't too difficult to figure that angle.

> IMHO, she made a big mistake marrying Allen, but truth be told she
> was unhappy before that. It seemed to me she was always insecure.
> Always running towards something, only to find she'd gone from the
> frying pan into the fire. Poor thing. She was sweet and kind, but
> also very naive.

That was my impression, also.

nb

On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:41:11 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:01:32 -0700, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:10:33 -0700, "Cheri" >
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Same here. I do have killfile capability, it ain't rocket science, but
> >> sometimes everyone has something useful to say and I don't want to miss what
> >> I find interesting, and I'm not a fan of *public plonking* either.
> >>
> >
> >Not my opinion at all. You can't have it both ways. If you're
> >skipping them, then you're not reading them - so kill them.
>
> Huh? If I often skip people, I have to killfile them? Where did you
> pull this law from?

There's no law that says I can't kill them. When I'm done, I'm
completely done. None of that namby pamby skipping baloney. AFAIC,
if I'm skipping them anyway, I don't even want to see their name in
the TOC. They are dead to me.


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On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:43:52 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

> I read what seems interesting, because of the thread or the person or
> both. And when I'm done, I mark the newsgroup as "read". No need for a
> killfile. You have another way of doing it. Fine.

Read? Then it's the thread that won't die. Like I said, when I'm
done, I'm completely over the poster, the thread, whatever.


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On Mon, 01 May 2017 02:09:58 -0700, sf > wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:41:11 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:01:32 -0700, sf > wrote:
>>
>> >Not my opinion at all. You can't have it both ways. If you're
>> >skipping them, then you're not reading them - so kill them.
>>
>> Huh? If I often skip people, I have to killfile them? Where did you
>> pull this law from?
>
>There's no law that says I can't kill them. When I'm done, I'm
>completely done. None of that namby pamby skipping baloney. AFAIC,
>if I'm skipping them anyway, I don't even want to see their name in
>the TOC. They are dead to me.

I don't think I hate anybody enough to feel that way about them.

On Mon, 01 May 2017 09:26:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Mon 01 May 2017 02:13:08a, sf told us...
>
>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:43:52 +1000, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I read what seems interesting, because of the thread or the
>>> person or both. And when I'm done, I mark the newsgroup as
>>> "read". No need for a killfile. You have another way of doing it.
>>> Fine.
>>
>> Read? Then it's the thread that won't die. Like I said, when I'm
>> done, I'm completely over the poster, the thread, whatever.
>>
>>
>
>I'm glad you haven't kf'd me yet sf. I enjoy reading your posts.

She got you scared, didn't she?

On Mon, 01 May 2017 09:29:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

>On Mon 01 May 2017 02:28:13a, Bruce told us...
>
>> On Mon, 01 May 2017 09:26:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon 01 May 2017 02:13:08a, sf told us...
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:43:52 +1000, Bruce >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I read what seems interesting, because of the thread or the
>>>>> person or both. And when I'm done, I mark the newsgroup as
>>>>> "read". No need for a killfile. You have another way of doing it.
>>>>> Fine.
>>>>
>>>> Read? Then it's the thread that won't die. Like I said, when I'm
>>>> done, I'm completely over the poster, the thread, whatever.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I'm glad you haven't kf'd me yet sf. I enjoy reading your posts.
>>
>> She got you scared, didn't she?
>>
>
>not at all!

Well, I'll always agree with her from now on.

On Mon, 01 May 2017 09:26:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> wrote:

> On Mon 01 May 2017 02:13:08a, sf told us...
>
> > On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:43:52 +1000, Bruce >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I read what seems interesting, because of the thread or the
> >> person or both. And when I'm done, I mark the newsgroup as
> >> "read". No need for a killfile. You have another way of doing it.
> >> Fine.
> >
> > Read? Then it's the thread that won't die. Like I said, when I'm
> > done, I'm completely over the poster, the thread, whatever.
> >
> >
>
> I'm glad you haven't kf'd me yet sf. I enjoy reading your posts.

LOL


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"jmcquown" wrote in message news
On 4/30/2017 1:57 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2017-04-30, cshenk > wrote:
>
>> I remember Kili,
>
> As do I. I spent a lotta time on the phone, with Kili, but she never
> confided in me, like she did Jill. I do know it was a tragic case.
>
That's because you're a guy. She likely wouldn't have told you how
unhappy she was. IMHO, she made a big mistake marrying Allen, but truth
be told she was unhappy before that. It seemed to me she was always
insecure. Always running towards something, only to find she'd gone
from the frying pan into the fire. Poor thing. She was sweet and kind,
but also very naive.

Jill

==

I really liked Kili. I never saw her say a mean thing to anybody!



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On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 3:44:28 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 01 May 2017 09:29:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> > wrote:
>
> >On Mon 01 May 2017 02:28:13a, Bruce told us...
> >
> >> On Mon, 01 May 2017 09:26:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Mon 01 May 2017 02:13:08a, sf told us...
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:43:52 +1000, Bruce >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I read what seems interesting, because of the thread or the
> >>>>> person or both. And when I'm done, I mark the newsgroup as
> >>>>> "read". No need for a killfile. You have another way of doing it.
> >>>>> Fine.
> >>>>
> >>>> Read? Then it's the thread that won't die. Like I said, when I'm
> >>>> done, I'm completely over the poster, the thread, whatever.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>I'm glad you haven't kf'd me yet sf. I enjoy reading your posts.
> >>
> >> She got you scared, didn't she?
> >>
> >
> >not at all!
>
> Well, I'll always agree with her from now on.

Attaboy...give in...surrender. If you don't she'll NEVER read your posts again.
Ahahahahahahhhaahhaha

On Mon, 1 May 2017 14:22:31 +0100, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>"jmcquown" wrote in message news >
>On 4/30/2017 1:57 PM, notbob wrote:
>> On 2017-04-30, cshenk > wrote:
>>
>>> I remember Kili,
>>
>> As do I. I spent a lotta time on the phone, with Kili, but she never
>> confided in me, like she did Jill. I do know it was a tragic case.
>>
>That's because you're a guy. She likely wouldn't have told you how
>unhappy she was. IMHO, she made a big mistake marrying Allen, but truth
>be told she was unhappy before that. It seemed to me she was always
>insecure. Always running towards something, only to find she'd gone
>from the frying pan into the fire. Poor thing. She was sweet and kind,
>but also very naive.
>
>Jill

I never got the impression she was naive, far from it... to me she was
the classsic enabler who considered no well meant advice from anyone,
I found her extremely stubborn.


>==
>
>I really liked Kili. I never saw her say a mean thing to anybody!

On Mon, 1 May 2017 08:54:03 -0700 (PDT), Roy >
wrote:

>On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 3:44:28 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 01 May 2017 09:29:46 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon 01 May 2017 02:28:13a, Bruce told us...
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 01 May 2017 09:26:10 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Mon 01 May 2017 02:13:08a, sf told us...
>> >>>
>> >>>> Read? Then it's the thread that won't die. Like I said, when I'm
>> >>>> done, I'm completely over the poster, the thread, whatever.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>I'm glad you haven't kf'd me yet sf. I enjoy reading your posts.
>> >>
>> >> She got you scared, didn't she?
>> >>
>> >
>> >not at all!
>>
>> Well, I'll always agree with her from now on.
>
>Attaboy...give in...surrender. If you don't she'll NEVER read your posts again.
>Ahahahahahahhhaahhaha

Yes, I'll be dead to her! Forever!

On 5/2/2017 1:50 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:11:54 -0400, Nancy Young wrote:

>> Do you remember the date, wasn't it New Year's?
>
> It was New Years Eve Day when he stopped posting. He rarely posted
> past 3:00pm. And at that point in Usenet history Andy was posting
> every day, starting early in the morning. He was starting an average
> of 4-5 new threads a day, all insignificant blather (often youtube
> links to music videos).
>
> So whatever happened, it was likely New Years Eve. It being New Years
> Eve, I think, is significant.

I remember he'd made some comment that he and I used to be
friends and I agreed. He'd done that before, if I knew he was in
trouble I'd have been nicer, but he'd usually just go back to
calling Blake names, which really ****ed me off. At any rate, he
did seem down right before he disappeared. The timing and his
demeanor at the time had me agreeing with your likely scenario.

That and he was filling dumpsters with his stuff, I didn't really
get the story as I no longer read his posts.

nancy

On 5/1/2017 9:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
> I really liked Kili. I never saw her say a mean thing to anybody!
>
She was very nice.

Jill

On 4/30/2017 8:10 PM, wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:51:08 -0400, jmcquown >
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/30/2017 1:35 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:20:52 -0400, Alex wrote:
>>>
>>>> jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> TFM's name is Allen. Anyone who knew Kristy well knows that.
>>>>
>>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> Actually, he does spell it Allen. I remember because it's exactly the
>>> wrong way that I spell my middle name (Alan - one L followed by an A).
>>>
>>> https://floridaresidentdb.com/person...n_keith_tipton
>>>
>>> Never knew his middle name was Keith. How *** <snork>.
>>>
>>> -sw
>>>
>> You say potato... kili was planning to leave him. Then she got
>> sick. TFM simply wouldn't work. She complained to me constantly about
>> him getting so drunk he'd forget to pick her up when *she* got off work.
>> What a guy!
>>
>> I knew her better than many people here know. I don't like talking on
>> the phone but kili is someone I did talk to. She made a bad choice and
>> was trying to find a way out. She was estranged from her mother (who
>> thought she never should have left her - according to kili - abusive
>> boyfriend Greg in Maui - until it was clear she was dying). She didn't
>> get any help from the worthless TFM or his family. I felt sorry for
>> her. BUT... she also jumped into marriage with some guy she met on a
>> BBQ newsgroup. She was mostly vegetarian so why she thought Allen was
>> *all that* is a mystery. Anyone else remember her complaining about him
>> making her go to the "stinky meat store"?
>>
>> Imagine forcing Bruce to spend the day in a butcher shop. Must have
>> been like that. RIP, kili. Rot in hell, Allen Tipton.
>>
>> Jill
> I didn't know any of that.
> If Alien Tipton is dead his picture should be removed from Mugs.
>
I didn't say he was dead. Just hope he rots in hell for the way he
treated her.

You can appreciate this sentiment, Sheldon. She had taken in three (?
memory fades) cats. kili cared for them like babies. She kept them
indoors. She managed to scrape money together if they needed vet care.
One cat named Pua had ringworm when she brought the cat in as a stray.
After kili died I was told TFM put them outside. As far as I'm
concerned he's a pig.

Jill