Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday simply
with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!

I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no tortillas.

TIA


--
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On 4/18/2017 1:11 PM, KenK wrote:
> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday simply
> with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>
> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no tortillas.
>
> TIA
>
>

Good with shredded cheddar cheese and some spicy salsa or hot sauce.

On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 1:07:54 PM UTC-5, Travis McGee wrote:
>
> Good with shredded cheddar cheese and some spicy salsa or hot sauce.
>
>
I was going to recommend the shredded cheese as well.

KenK wrote:
>
>Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday simply
>with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>
>I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no tortillas.

Don't need tortillas, motza works too! LOL

I often prepare refried beans, I use canned black beans, mashed in the
pan used for fried pork chops... pork chops with refried beans is a
very good combo, really needs no kind of carbo however cervesa is
mandatory.
I don't like canned refried beans, disgusting.

> wrote in message
...
> KenK wrote:
>>
>>Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday
>>simply
>>with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>>
>>I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no tortillas.
>
> Don't need tortillas, motza works too! LOL
>
> I often prepare refried beans, I use canned black beans, mashed in the
> pan used for fried pork chops... pork chops with refried beans is a
> very good combo, really needs no kind of carbo however cervesa is
> mandatory.
> I don't like canned refried beans, disgusting.

I think most of the canned are quite good but a few are not.

I have been known to smother them with grated cheese so it melts.

N.

KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday
> simply with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>
> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
> tortillas.
>
> TIA

Hi KenK, is the no tortillas because you do not have any, or because
you do not eat bread (low carb desires).

If it's just that you do not have any handy, here's an idea you may
like. I'm keeping it simple. No making your own bread (grin).

Can of biscuits or you can use can of cresent rolls. Peel part of the
paper back where it says then whack the counter edge with it and it
pops open.

Flatten these out with your hands a bit then put a spoon of refried
beans in there. Top with a little seasoning if you like. I like a
little chile powder. I then add a little bit of chopped up onion,
maybe a 1/2 spoon level minced up a bit for each. Add another dough
layer on top and pinch the edges closed. Bake at the tempurature on
the can but it will need a little longer time because it's thicker.
When the tops are nicely browned, they are ready.

Recommend a glass baking dish or foil line whatever you bake them on as
sometimes the side pinches get loose and cleanup is a lot easier. Put
any you can't eat then in plastic baggies (or what you have) and they
freeze well and can be removed frozen from the bag then microwaved for
a fast simple breakfast.

Another one we like is a crazy old depression era recipe but I don't
care. We like it and that is what counts! Updated to today's grocery
store, we will take a can (or same amount of drained beans from the
crockpot made from dry) then add 2 chopped up hot dogs. These do not
have to be fancy types. We then add some jarred salsa (Depression era
recipe used home canned tomatoes and largely the same stuff as salsa).
I recommend adding 1/4 a small onion chopped fairly well to this but
you may find 1/8 cup works for you or find the salsa covered it to your
needs. Pace Picante Medium suits us but if you do not like 'spicy' go
mild Pace Picante or similar. The recipe is for a whole standard can
but you can work it with leftover partial amounts this way: 1 serving
your size, add maybe as much as 1/2 a chopped hot dog then add maybe a
spoon of chopped onion and 1-2 spoons salsa.

That help? I have never read all messages here but I gather you lost
your wife (so sorry) and are looking for basics for now as you had not
had to cook every day before. If that is wrong, please ignore me as
there was no insult intended if I got too basic.

I wish you well.
--

"cshenk" > wrote in news:49ednY5Qt5wBBmvFnZ2dnUU7-
:

> KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday
>> simply with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>>
>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>> tortillas.
>>
>> TIA
>
> Hi KenK, is the no tortillas because you do not have any, or because
> you do not eat bread (low carb desires).
>
Sort of. Trying to avoid gluten and corn.

Snip

> I wish you well.



--
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"KenK" > wrote in message
...
> "cshenk" > wrote in news:49ednY5Qt5wBBmvFnZ2dnUU7-
> :
>
>> KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday
>>> simply with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>>>
>>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>>> tortillas.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> Hi KenK, is the no tortillas because you do not have any, or because
>> you do not eat bread (low carb desires).
>>
> Sort of. Trying to avoid gluten and corn.

There are tortillas made of rice. Not sure if you can find them there or if
they would work for you. Here is one brand that looks like they might work.
Some rice tortillas come frozen. Can't remember if these did or not.

http://www.foodforlife.com/product/t...rice-tortillas

"Julie Bove" > wrote in
news
>
> "KenK" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "cshenk" > wrote in news:49ednY5Qt5wBBmvFnZ2dnUU7-
>> :
>>
>>> KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them
>>>> yesterday simply with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you,
>>>> Koko!
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>>>> tortillas.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Hi KenK, is the no tortillas because you do not have any, or because
>>> you do not eat bread (low carb desires).
>>>
>> Sort of. Trying to avoid gluten and corn.
>
> There are tortillas made of rice. Not sure if you can find them there
> or if they would work for you. Here is one brand that looks like they
> might work. Some rice tortillas come frozen. Can't remember if these
> did or not.
>
> http://www.foodforlife.com/product/t...rice-tortillas
>
>
Looks like a winner! Nothing forbidden in ingredient list except rice
bran not identified. Hoping brown as brown rice flour used. Tried to
figure out how to get from store locator map to a store but couldn't
figure it out. Sent them an email instead. Hope they have a store here.

I tried Amazon yesterday, but don't recall seeing their brand there.
Torillas I did see over $1 EACH!




--
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KenK > wrote in news:XnsA75D697D0254Binvalidcom@
130.133.4.11:

> "Julie Bove" > wrote in
> news >
>>
>> "KenK" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> "cshenk" > wrote in news:49ednY5Qt5wBBmvFnZ2dnUU7-
>>> :
>>>
>>>> KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them
>>>>> yesterday simply with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you,
>>>>> Koko!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>>>>> tortillas.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> Hi KenK, is the no tortillas because you do not have any, or because
>>>> you do not eat bread (low carb desires).
>>>>
>>> Sort of. Trying to avoid gluten and corn.
>>
>> There are tortillas made of rice. Not sure if you can find them there
>> or if they would work for you. Here is one brand that looks like they
>> might work. Some rice tortillas come frozen. Can't remember if these
>> did or not.
>>
>> http://www.foodforlife.com/product/t...rice-tortillas
>>
>>
> Looks like a winner! Nothing forbidden in ingredient list except rice
> bran not identified. Hoping brown as brown rice flour used. Tried to
> figure out how to get from store locator map to a store but couldn't
> figure it out. Sent them an email instead. Hope they have a store here.
>
> I tried Amazon yesterday, but don't recall seeing their brand there.
> Torillas I did see over $1 EACH!

They have a store here but it is about a 25 mile drive, Dunno if a
burrito is worth that! A health food store, likely expemsive.

I think back to Google for a brown rice flour tortilla recipe. The two I
found didn't work for me. One result was much too thin to form tortillas.
The other came out very gritty and the tortillas fell apart when I tried
to transfer them to the frying pan. Both probably fixable but I didn't
know how.

On the bright side, made chili yesterday and it was very good. Will make
it again.




--
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On 19 Apr 2017 17:06:43 GMT, KenK > wrote:

>"cshenk" > wrote in news:49ednY5Qt5wBBmvFnZ2dnUU7-
:
>
>> KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday
>>> simply with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>>>
>>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>>> tortillas.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> Hi KenK, is the no tortillas because you do not have any, or because
>> you do not eat bread (low carb desires).
>>
> Sort of. Trying to avoid gluten and corn.
>
>Snip
>
>> I wish you well.

Ken, I'm avoiding gluten and grains also. Here are a couple of
tortilla alternatives I use. Hope you try them

http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...llas.html#more
or
http://tinyurl.com/mka676o

I make these and use them for tacos also. I haven't posted it on my
blog yet but here's the recipe.
http://againstallgrain.com/2013/01/2...ainfree-paleo/

Best wishes

koko


--
When you acknowledge, as you must, that there is no perfect food,
only the idea of it, then the real purpose of striving toward perfection
becomes clear; to make people happy, That's what cooking is all about
Thomas Keller: The French Laundry

koko > wrote in news:001rfc51paabv6b7vh0l52kgbjsd9ip700@
4ax.com:

> http://tinyurl.com/mka676o

Thank you. Not sure if I can find coconut flour. Don't recall seeing it in
any of thr groceries I go to.

The plantain recipe sounds interesting. Wonder what it will taste like.
Banana?



--
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"KenK" > wrote in message
...
> koko > wrote in news:001rfc51paabv6b7vh0l52kgbjsd9ip700@
> 4ax.com:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/mka676o
>
> Thank you. Not sure if I can find coconut flour. Don't recall seeing it in
> any of thr groceries I go to.
>
> The plantain recipe sounds interesting. Wonder what it will taste like.
> Banana?

Look in the gluten free section or with the Bob's Red Mill products.

On Tuesday, April 25, 2017 at 8:21:31 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> koko > wrote in news:001rfc51paabv6b7vh0l52kgbjsd9ip700@
> 4ax.com:
>
> > http://tinyurl.com/mka676o
>
> Thank you. Not sure if I can find coconut flour. Don't recall seeing it in
> any of thr groceries I go to.
>
> The plantain recipe sounds interesting. Wonder what it will taste like.
> Banana?
>
>
>
> --
> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

You don't need plantains. You can just use green banana. That's the way it's done over here.

On 25 Apr 2017 18:21:27 GMT, KenK > wrote:

>koko > wrote in news:001rfc51paabv6b7vh0l52kgbjsd9ip700@
>4ax.com:
>
>> http://tinyurl.com/mka676o
>
>Thank you. Not sure if I can find coconut flour. Don't recall seeing it in
>any of thr groceries I go to.
Von's, Albertson's, Grocery Outlet, Trader Joe's and WalMart carry it.
>
>The plantain recipe sounds interesting. Wonder what it will taste like.
>Banana?
No, it doesn't taste like banana, plantain is a whole 'nuther thing,
more on the starchy side. Just don't pick out ones that are too ripe
or it will be too sweet.

koko

--
When you acknowledge, as you must, that there is no perfect food,
only the idea of it, then the real purpose of striving toward perfection
becomes clear; to make people happy, That's what cooking is all about
Thomas Keller: The French Laundry

koko > wrote in
:

> On 19 Apr 2017 17:06:43 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>
>>"cshenk" > wrote in news:49ednY5Qt5wBBmvFnZ2dnUU7-
:
>>
>>> KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them
>>>> yesterday simply with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you,
>>>> Koko!
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>>>> tortillas.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Hi KenK, is the no tortillas because you do not have any, or because
>>> you do not eat bread (low carb desires).
>>>
>> Sort of. Trying to avoid gluten and corn.
>>
>>Snip
>>
>>> I wish you well.
>
> Ken, I'm avoiding gluten and grains also. Here are a couple of
> tortilla alternatives I use. Hope you try them
>
> http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...tortillas.html
> #more or
> http://tinyurl.com/mka676o
>
> I make these and use them for tacos also. I haven't posted it on my
> blog yet but here's the recipe.
> http://againstallgrain.com/2013/01/2...ainfree-paleo/
>
> Best wishes
>
> koko
>
>
> --
> When you acknowledge, as you must, that there is no perfect food,
> only the idea of it, then the real purpose of striving toward
> perfection becomes clear; to make people happy, That's what cooking is
> all about
> Thomas Keller: The French
> Laundry
>

I started looking for a substitute for coconut oil a little while ago.
All the sites I looked at used other hard-to-find ingredients. Only one
said oil like olive oil.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to go back to Walmart Neighborhood Market to
see if they have coconut oil as well as the coconut flour I bought thia
morning.


--
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"KenK" > wrote in message
...
> koko > wrote in
> :
>
>> On 19 Apr 2017 17:06:43 GMT, KenK > wrote:
>>
>>>"cshenk" > wrote in news:49ednY5Qt5wBBmvFnZ2dnUU7-
:
>>>
>>>> KenK wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>
>>>>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them
>>>>> yesterday simply with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you,
>>>>> Koko!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>>>>> tortillas.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> Hi KenK, is the no tortillas because you do not have any, or because
>>>> you do not eat bread (low carb desires).
>>>>
>>> Sort of. Trying to avoid gluten and corn.
>>>
>>>Snip
>>>
>>>> I wish you well.
>>
>> Ken, I'm avoiding gluten and grains also. Here are a couple of
>> tortilla alternatives I use. Hope you try them
>>
>> http://www.kokoscornerblog.com/mycor...tortillas.html
>> #more or
>> http://tinyurl.com/mka676o
>>
>> I make these and use them for tacos also. I haven't posted it on my
>> blog yet but here's the recipe.
>> http://againstallgrain.com/2013/01/2...ainfree-paleo/
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> koko
>>
>>
>> --
>> When you acknowledge, as you must, that there is no perfect food,
>> only the idea of it, then the real purpose of striving toward
>> perfection becomes clear; to make people happy, That's what cooking is
>> all about
>> Thomas Keller: The French
>> Laundry
>>
>
> I started looking for a substitute for coconut oil a little while ago.
> All the sites I looked at used other hard-to-find ingredients. Only one
> said oil like olive oil.
>
> I'm afraid I'm going to have to go back to Walmart Neighborhood Market to
> see if they have coconut oil as well as the coconut flour I bought thia
> morning.

They should have it. It will come in a jar. Most stores these days carry it.

On 2017-04-18, KenK > wrote:

> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans.

I eat canned Jaunita brand refried beans in yer basic huevos
rancheros breakfast.

Nuke a some beans, then add salsa and 1-2 over-easy eggs. Some sour
cream couldn't hurt. Nuke as necessary, to maintain heat. I like
mine with flour tortillas, but not required. I usually have a beer
(cerveza), besides.

nb

On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 1:11:59 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday simply
> with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>
> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no tortillas.

Looks like you're going to have to remind people every time what you
can't eat. Wheat and corn in this context, isn't it? And dairy?

Looks like good old refries on a plate topped with chiles or salsa
or something. I can't advise because I don't eat refries.

Cindy Hamilton

Cindy Hamilton > wrote in
:

> On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 1:11:59 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday
>> simply with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>>
>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>> tortillas.
>
> Looks like you're going to have to remind people every time what you
> can't eat. Wheat and corn in this context, isn't it? And dairy?

Yep. And more. Quit doing that, got too much static here about it.

> Looks like good old refries on a plate topped with chiles or salsa
> or something. I can't advise because I don't eat refries.

I like a high fiber meal once a day. Refried beans are convenient.

>
> Cindy Hamilton
>



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On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 1:04:15 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton > wrote in
> :
>
> > On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 1:11:59 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
> >> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday
> >> simply with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
> >>
> >> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
> >> tortillas.
> >
> > Looks like you're going to have to remind people every time what you
> > can't eat. Wheat and corn in this context, isn't it? And dairy?
>
> Yep. And more. Quit doing that, got too much static here about it.

That's a damned if you do, damned if you don't. Do, and people
think you're a whiner. Don't, and you get a bunch of suggestions
that you can't use. Kudos to you for not complaining about the
latter.

> > Looks like good old refries on a plate topped with chiles or salsa
> > or something. I can't advise because I don't eat refries.
>
> I like a high fiber meal once a day. Refried beans are convenient.

That they are. I usually have lentil soup for lunch, but today
I had falafel. The goodness of the garbanzo beans was offset
by the badness of the deep-frying. Oh, well. I can't be
perfect all the time (or any time, really).

Cindy

On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 7:11:59 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday simply
> with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>
> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no tortillas.
>
> TIA
>
>
> --
> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.

Beans are a good, cheap, food. What I don't get is the appeal of mashing beans and mixing grease into the goop. What's wrong with whole, non-greased beans? OTOH, if you grew up on refried beans, then it would be perfectly normal.

On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 7:11:59 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday simply
>> with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>>
>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no tortillas.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>> --
>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>
>Beans are a good, cheap, food. What I don't get is the appeal of mashing beans and mixing grease into the goop. What's wrong with whole, non-greased beans? OTOH, if you grew up on refried beans, then it would be perfectly normal.

consider the cooked beans re-heated (refried) with bacon grease. It's
flavor added.
Many people eat the beans without added fat.
Janet US

On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 9:22:46 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 7:11:59 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
> >> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday simply
> >> with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
> >>
> >> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no tortillas.
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
> >
> >Beans are a good, cheap, food. What I don't get is the appeal of mashing beans and mixing grease into the goop. What's wrong with whole, non-greased beans? OTOH, if you grew up on refried beans, then it would be perfectly normal.
>
> consider the cooked beans re-heated (refried) with bacon grease. It's
> flavor added.
> Many people eat the beans without added fat.
> Janet US

Beans with bacon grease doesn't sound bad - you can even toss in some bacon. Smashing the beans into a pasty goo however, seems ill-advised though.

On 2017-04-19 5:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> Beans with bacon grease doesn't sound bad - you can even toss in some
> bacon. Smashing the beans into a pasty goo however, seems ill-advised
> though.
>


My best baked beam recipe has bacon in it. They are delicious.

On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 11:44:13 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2017-04-19 5:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
> > Beans with bacon grease doesn't sound bad - you can even toss in some
> > bacon. Smashing the beans into a pasty goo however, seems ill-advised
> > though.
> >
>
>
> My best baked beam recipe has bacon in it. They are delicious.

I love baked beans and you're right - they are delicious.

"Dave Smith" > wrote in message
...
> On 2017-04-19 5:34 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> Beans with bacon grease doesn't sound bad - you can even toss in some
>> bacon. Smashing the beans into a pasty goo however, seems ill-advised
>> though.
>>
>
>
> My best baked beam recipe has bacon in it. They are delicious.

I use onions and bacon in my baked beans. But not in my pinto beans. I
didn't grow up eating bacon grease. I have ruined a few dishes by taking the
recommendation of adding a bit of the stuff. Ick. No.

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 9:22:46 AM UTC-10, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 <dsi1yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 7:11:59 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>> >> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday
>> >> simply
>> >> with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>> >> tortillas.
>> >>
>> >> TIA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>> >
>> >Beans are a good, cheap, food. What I don't get is the appeal of mashing
>> >beans and mixing grease into the goop. What's wrong with whole,
>> >non-greased beans? OTOH, if you grew up on refried beans, then it would
>> >be perfectly normal.
>>
>> consider the cooked beans re-heated (refried) with bacon grease. It's
>> flavor added.
>> Many people eat the beans without added fat.
>> Janet US
>
> Beans with bacon grease doesn't sound bad - you can even toss in some
> bacon. Smashing the beans into a pasty goo however, seems ill-advised
> though.

Try it some time. You can even use a can of pintos. Reserve the liquid. Mash
the beans with a potato masher. Add a bit of the liquid if you find them to
be too thick.

On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:27:10 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> Try it some time. You can even use a can of pintos. Reserve the liquid. Mash
> the beans with a potato masher. Add a bit of the liquid if you find them to
> be too thick.

That's probably a good idea - thanks.

"U.S. Janet B." > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT), dsi1 >
> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 7:11:59 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday
>>> simply
>>> with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>>>
>>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>>> tortillas.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>>
>>Beans are a good, cheap, food. What I don't get is the appeal of mashing
>>beans and mixing grease into the goop. What's wrong with whole,
>>non-greased beans? OTOH, if you grew up on refried beans, then it would be
>>perfectly normal.
>
> consider the cooked beans re-heated (refried) with bacon grease. It's
> flavor added.
> Many people eat the beans without added fat.
> Janet US

According to the owner of a Mexican restaurant, beans in Mexico rarely have
added fat. He said pretty much all sources of fat are rather expensive there
so it is generally only used for special occasions.

dsi1 wrote:
>KenK wrote:
>>
>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday simply
>> with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no tortillas.
>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>
>Beans are a good, cheap, food. What I don't get is the appeal of mashing beans and mixing grease into the goop.

When you prepare refried beans yourself you control the fat content.
Obviously you don't and can't cook, not anything, not anything more
complex than a bowl of Flaky Wakies with with a poi side, and refried
beans with a can opener.

On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 11:46:42 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>
> When you prepare refried beans yourself you control the fat content.
> Obviously you don't and can't cook, not anything, not anything more
> complex than a bowl of Flaky Wakies with with a poi side, and refried
> beans with a can opener.

Hey pal, I thought we had an agreement that you were not going to post while drunk. Get off the bottle now!

Of course I know how to make refried beans, it ain't rocket science. The question is why would I want to? Most haoles and Hawaiians alike wouldn't treat beans in this manner. I have much respect for the people of Mexico but my question is a reasonable and earnest one - what's the appeal of smashed, mushy, beans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJVAiSMW6L0

dsi1 NO NAME wrote:
>Penmart wrote:
>>
>> When you prepare refried beans yourself you control the fat content.
>> Obviously you don't and can't cook, not anything, not anything more
>> complex than a bowl of Flaky Wakies with with a poi side, and refried
>> beans with a can opener.
>
>Hey pal, I thought we had an agreement that you were not going to post while drunk. Get off the bottle now!

I don't have a drinking problem but very obviously you do which is why
you are so focused on boozing. I probably drink far less than most, I
never drank more than two at a restaurant (I'm too frugal), and at
home I typically have one drink with dinner and occasionally another
after dinner but not usually, I never drink during the day before
dinner. I'm not a party animal, in fact I haven't attended a party in
some twenty five years. I don't like wine, not even Champagne on New
Years Eve but we share some Dom P. for tradition but I really don't
like it. A case of brewski lasts me a year or more, most for
cooking... it's rare I drink any, maybe a can after a hard hot day of
mowing and gardening. Evenings I drink plain water from the sippy
bottle on my night stand, same as I do during the day from another
sippy bottle at my PC, and yet another one in my tractore when working
all day. It's always those who think others are big boozers who are
the drunks, YOU!
My only addiction is pretty female breasts, but I don't think I needed
to announce that here... anyone here who hasn't figured that out has a
big boozing problem, YOU! I know with absolute certainty who here
cooks and who doesn't, you don't cook. Anyone can fake that they cook
because everyone eats, it's that simple... but for people like me who
actually cook every day it a no brainer to recognize the fakes, YOU!

On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 3:53:24 PM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> dsi1 NO NAME wrote:
> >Penmart wrote:
> >>
> >> When you prepare refried beans yourself you control the fat content.
> >> Obviously you don't and can't cook, not anything, not anything more
> >> complex than a bowl of Flaky Wakies with with a poi side, and refried
> >> beans with a can opener.
> >
> >Hey pal, I thought we had an agreement that you were not going to post while drunk. Get off the bottle now!
>
> I don't have a drinking problem but very obviously you do which is why
> you are so focused on boozing. I probably drink far less than most, I
> never drank more than two at a restaurant (I'm too frugal), and at
> home I typically have one drink with dinner and occasionally another
> after dinner but not usually, I never drink during the day before
> dinner. I'm not a party animal, in fact I haven't attended a party in
> some twenty five years. I don't like wine, not even Champagne on New
> Years Eve but we share some Dom P. for tradition but I really don't
> like it. A case of brewski lasts me a year or more, most for
> cooking... it's rare I drink any, maybe a can after a hard hot day of
> mowing and gardening. Evenings I drink plain water from the sippy
> bottle on my night stand, same as I do during the day from another
> sippy bottle at my PC, and yet another one in my tractore when working
> all day. It's always those who think others are big boozers who are
> the drunks, YOU!
> My only addiction is pretty female breasts, but I don't think I needed
> to announce that here... anyone here who hasn't figured that out has a
> big boozing problem, YOU! I know with absolute certainty who here
> cooks and who doesn't, you don't cook. Anyone can fake that they cook
> because everyone eats, it's that simple... but for people like me who
> actually cook every day it a no brainer to recognize the fakes, YOU!

I don't know crap about Mexican cooking. If you believe that not understanding the rationale for mashed beans means I don't cook then you're either drunk or an idiot. I believe it's a combination of both. You're acting like an authority on refried beans but you cannot answer my simple, earnest, question. You obviously have never made this dish. This tells me that you're a liar and a poseur.

No matter, I'm sufficiently interested in this question and will just go forth and make this simple dish. I'm going to make this Mexican style - with a shitload of oil. Otherwise, what's the point?

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 11:46:42 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
>
> When you prepare refried beans yourself you control the fat content.
> Obviously you don't and can't cook, not anything, not anything more
> complex than a bowl of Flaky Wakies with with a poi side, and refried
> beans with a can opener.

Hey pal, I thought we had an agreement that you were not going to post while
drunk. Get off the bottle now!

Of course I know how to make refried beans, it ain't rocket science. The
question is why would I want to? Most haoles and Hawaiians alike wouldn't
treat beans in this manner. I have much respect for the people of Mexico but
my question is a reasonable and earnest one - what's the appeal of smashed,
mushy, beans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJVAiSMW6L0

---

To me, they seem rather decadent. They are probably my favorite food, ever.
Although I love pretty much all beans, except for most BBQ or those hideous
Limas in tomato sauce, refried have always been my favorite.

Last night, I made tostada casserole. At least that was the name it was
given. Rather similar to the Taco pizza that I used to make. Crust/base was
Bisquick although similar recipes used canned biscuits pressed together.
Little sprinkle of corn meal above and below the dough, and I used a little
olive oil to grease the large, rectangular casserole with. Layer of refried
beans (I used double the amount called for), layer of cooked ground beef
with taco seasoning. Bake time and temp. was listed at 18-20 min. at 400
degrees. Nope. Still raw dough in the middle. I cranked it up to 450 for
another 10 minutes. Perfect. Add a layer of cheese and return to oven until
melted.

Cut in squares and top with lettuce, tomato, onion, salsa, avocado or
guacamole, sour cream, tortilla chips, black olives, or whatever you want.
Leftovers are good cold. It's very filling. For me, best to take less of the
casserole and add more of the raw veggie stuff on top. I imagine you could
also use tortillas as the base, but since they are already cooked, you'd
just need to heat it through.

In article >, says...
>
> "dsi1" > wrote in message
> ...
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 11:46:42 AM UTC-10, Sheldon wrote:
> >
> > When you prepare refried beans yourself you control the fat content.
> > Obviously you don't and can't cook, not anything, not anything more
> > complex than a bowl of Flaky Wakies with with a poi side, and refried
> > beans with a can opener.
>
> Hey pal, I thought we had an agreement that you were not going to post while
> drunk. Get off the bottle now!
>
> Of course I know how to make refried beans, it ain't rocket science. The
> question is why would I want to? Most haoles and Hawaiians alike wouldn't
> treat beans in this manner. I have much respect for the people of Mexico but
> my question is a reasonable and earnest one - what's the appeal of smashed,
> mushy, beans?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJVAiSMW6L0
>
> ---
>
> To me, they seem rather decadent.

Do you have any clue what decadent means????

Janet UK

"dsi1" > wrote in message
...
> On Tuesday, April 18, 2017 at 7:11:59 AM UTC-10, KenK wrote:
>> Looking for a tasty way to serve refried beans. Tried them yesterday
>> simply
>> with magic mushroom powder. Quite good! Thank you, Koko!
>>
>> I'm sure there are many many other ways. Suggestions? Sorry, no
>> tortillas.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>> --
>> I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook.
>
> Beans are a good, cheap, food. What I don't get is the appeal of mashing
> beans and mixing grease into the goop. What's wrong with whole,
> non-greased beans? OTOH, if you grew up on refried beans, then it would be
> perfectly normal.

They can be made fat free. The beans aren't really fried. When I make them,
I just cook the beans and mash them. I do usually add a little bit of olive
oil to them. Why? Given my 'druthers, my diet is low to no fat and that's
not good. So I try to add a little whenever I can. I also like to add some
chopped onion and bell pepper to help cut the carbs a little bit.

On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:23:36 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> "dsi1" <dsi100ahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > Beans are a good, cheap, food. What I don't get is the appeal of mashing
> > beans and mixing grease into the goop. What's wrong with whole,
> > non-greased beans? OTOH, if you grew up on refried beans, then it would be
> > perfectly normal.
>
> They can be made fat free. The beans aren't really fried. When I make them,
> I just cook the beans and mash them. I do usually add a little bit of olive
> oil to them. Why? Given my 'druthers, my diet is low to no fat and that's
> not good. So I try to add a little whenever I can. I also like to add some
> chopped onion and bell pepper to help cut the carbs a little bit.

It seems opinions vary greatly on the matter of oil. Some people don't even fry the bean and will mix in a good amount of oil into the bean pot. I'm a fan of using lots of oil so you know where I'm going to go.

On Thursday, April 20, 2017 at 4:24:00 AM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 8:23:36 PM UTC-10, Julie Bove wrote:
> > "dsi1" <dsi100ahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >
> > They can be made fat free. The beans aren't really fried. When I make them,
> > I just cook the beans and mash them. I do usually add a little bit of olive
> > oil to them. Why? Given my 'druthers, my diet is low to no fat and that's
> > not good. So I try to add a little whenever I can. I also like to add some
> > chopped onion and bell pepper to help cut the carbs a little bit.
>
> It seems opinions vary greatly on the matter of oil. Some people don't even fry the bean and will mix in a good amount of oil into the bean pot. I'm a fan of using lots of oil so you know where I'm going to go.
>
>
Julie is not making refried beans. She's making one of her usual
ungodly messes and calling it refried beans. Also, adding chopped
onion and bell is not 'cutting the carbs' they're just adding flavor
to her otherwise slop.