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On 11/13/2015 2:36 AM, Ophelia wrote:
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>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 20:07:49 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>
>>> Point taken. It's been so long (and so many others have jumped on the
>>> bandwagon since then) that it's easy to forget how they revolutionized
>>> the standards of fries.

>>
>> McDonald's revolutionized the standard of fries? The only revolution
>> was that they came up with a cross between fries and matchsticks. But
>> you were probably joking.

>
> LOL one can only hope so.
>

I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.
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On 11/13/2015 6:06 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when I
>>>>> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>>>>
>>>> Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
>>>> better.
>>>
>>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
>>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>>>
>>>> They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>>>> industry and grown under the same conditions.
>>>
>>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
>>> completely different.

>>
>> whoosh

>
> Back at ya.
>

I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.
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On 11/13/2015 3:57 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 10:51:00 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 10:12:32 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>>> I go there twice a year or so. I only get their fries in an emergency
>>>>> highway
>>>>
>>>> I would rather starve! Years ago a friend was passing through and I
>>>> didn't
>>>> have time to cook, so he suggested we go to McD's. When we got there I
>>>> looked at the menu board. Filet of fish sounded rather nice so I asked
>>>> for
>>>> that. I took one mouthful and nearly threw up! It was full of gunk!!!
>>>> And there was plastic cheese in there too!!
>>>
>>> It's probably that tilapia (basa?) fish that's grown in big tanks in
>>> the dark. I think that's also the fish that Chinese restaurants serve
>>> when they only specify "fish" as the ingredient. Can't get any
>>> cheaper.
>>>
>>>> The chips were like cardboard ... Nah...never again.
>>>
>>> I know. The mayo they serve with it helps a bit, although it looks
>>> like turtle poo.

>>
>> ewwww well, I leave you to your turtle poo and please feel free to have my
>> share))

>
> Thanks, I always want extra mayo
>

I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.
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On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 2:43:35 AM UTC-8, Ophelia wrote:
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Nice picture of a crumpet.

My friend's mother's parents came from the Isle of Man, so she learned
to make Yorkshire pudding as a girl.
I have had neither Bovril nor Marmite. And the Irish Goodall's steak
sauce is far more flavorful than HP Sauce.

Encasing sausage in dough is not limited to the UK.
Had one Scotch egg, once. Not desperate for another.
Haven't spotted any dick yet -- is it good?
(but what about sherry trifle -- that is what I could get behind.)
Chipped potatoes should be crisp, not soggy. So no gravy.
I have had mushy peas and a full English breakfast -- with black
pudding -- many times. Love grilled to-MAH-to, as well as mushrooms.

Haven't had bubble and squeak, or haggis (lungs not considered fit
for human consumption in the US). Salad cream is really an adaptation
of US salad dressings. But Branston Pickle is indeed good on a cheese
sandwich.
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On 11/13/2015 6:44 PM, wrote:
> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 2:43:35 AM UTC-8, Ophelia wrote:
>>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/exp...?frame=3335042
>>

>
> Nice picture of a crumpet.
>
> My friend's mother's parents came from the Isle of Man, so she learned
> to make Yorkshire pudding as a girl.
> I have had neither Bovril nor Marmite. And the Irish Goodall's steak
> sauce is far more flavorful than HP Sauce.
>
> Encasing sausage in dough is not limited to the UK.
> Had one Scotch egg, once. Not desperate for another.
> Haven't spotted any dick yet -- is it good?
> (but what about sherry trifle -- that is what I could get behind.)
> Chipped potatoes should be crisp, not soggy. So no gravy.

I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.


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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:06:34 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when I
> >> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
> >> >
> >> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
> >> >better.
> >>
> >> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
> >> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
> >> underfried cardboard pulp type.
> >>
> >> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
> >> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
> >>
> >> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
> >> completely different.

> >
> >whoosh

>
> Back at ya.


McDonald's changed industry standards and you can only talk about the
fries at some no name pub. IOW, you have nothing of value to add.

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On 11/13/2015 10:08 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:06:34 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>>
>> Back at ya leathery labia.

>
> McDonald's changed industry standards and you can only talk about my rancid, dripping vagina.
>IOW, you have nothing of value to add. Not even a peepee worth looking at.


I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.

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On 11/13/2015 10:49 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:08:52 -0800, sf > Barbara J Llorente 71 Cerritos Ave San Francisco, CA 94127 wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:06:34 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when I
>>>>>>> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
>>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
>>>>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>>>>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>>>>>
>>>>>> They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>>>>>> industry and grown under the same conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
>>>>> completely different.
>>>>
>>>> whoosh
>>>
>>> Back at ya.

>>
>> McDonald's changed industry standards and you can only talk about the
>> fries at some no name pub. IOW, you have nothing of value to add.

>
> You're changing the topic. I couldn't care less about potato industry
> standards. We were talking about the quality of McDonald's fries.
>


I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into
the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert
Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family
Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly
not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather
who prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death.
This particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor
of Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every
clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within
the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the
CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to
the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that
hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he
helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose
family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)
ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took
office.
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 16:49:57 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:08:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:06:34 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when I
> >> >> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
> >> >> >better.
> >> >>
> >> >> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
> >> >> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
> >> >> underfried cardboard pulp type.
> >> >>
> >> >> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
> >> >> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
> >> >> completely different.
> >> >
> >> >whoosh
> >>
> >> Back at ya.

> >
> >McDonald's changed industry standards and you can only talk about the
> >fries at some no name pub. IOW, you have nothing of value to add.

>
> You're changing the topic. I couldn't care less about potato industry
> standards. We were talking about the quality of McDonald's fries.


It starts with the potato.

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when I
>>> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>>> >
>>> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
>>> >better.
>>>
>>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
>>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>>>
>>> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>>> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
>>>
>>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
>>> completely different.

>>
>>whoosh

>
> Back at ya.


Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and twist
things. Ugh.

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"Bruce" > wrote in message
...
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 21:08:52 -0800, sf > wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 12:06:34 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce >
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips
>>> >> >> when I
>>> >> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
>>> >> >better.
>>> >>
>>> >> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You
>>> >> can
>>> >> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>>> >> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>>> >>
>>> >> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>>> >> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
>>> >>
>>> >> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result
>>> >> is
>>> >> completely different.
>>> >
>>> >whoosh
>>>
>>> Back at ya.

>>
>>McDonald's changed industry standards and you can only talk about the
>>fries at some no name pub. IOW, you have nothing of value to add.

>
> You're changing the topic. I couldn't care less about potato industry
> standards. We were talking about the quality of McDonald's fries.


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> On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 2:43:35 AM UTC-8, Ophelia wrote:
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/exp...?frame=3335042
>>

>
> Nice picture of a crumpet.
>
> My friend's mother's parents came from the Isle of Man, so she learned
> to make Yorkshire pudding as a girl.
> I have had neither Bovril nor Marmite. And the Irish Goodall's steak
> sauce is far more flavorful than HP Sauce.


Bovril and Marmite? Uck!

> Encasing sausage in dough is not limited to the UK.
> Had one Scotch egg, once. Not desperate for another.


Same.

> Haven't spotted any dick yet -- is it good?


Oh yes, with lots of custard

> (but what about sherry trifle -- that is what I could get behind.)


Easy to make:

http://britishfood.about.com/od/dess...onaltrifle.htm

> Chipped potatoes should be crisp, not soggy. So no gravy.


Agreed!

> I have had mushy peas and a full English breakfast -- with black
> pudding -- many times. Love grilled to-MAH-to, as well as mushrooms.
>
> Haven't had bubble and squeak, or haggis (lungs not considered fit
> for human consumption in the US). Salad cream is really an adaptation
> of US salad dressings. But Branston Pickle is indeed good on a cheese
> sandwich.


Try bubble and squeak. It isn't that different to home fries with mashed
potato.



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"Bruce" > wrote in message
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> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:27:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce >
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when
>>>>> >> I
>>>>> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
>>>>> >better.
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
>>>>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>>>>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>>>>>
>>>>> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>>>>> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
>>>>> completely different.
>>>>
>>>>whoosh
>>>
>>> Back at ya.

>>
>>Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and twist
>>things. Ugh.

>
> I don't understand how anyone can say that McDonald's revolutionized
> fries/chips. The only thing McDonald's revolutionized is diabetes.


Because she *knows everything* I could go on at length but really, she
simply isn't worth it. If others can't see through her that is their
problem.


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On 14/11/2015 8:47 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:27:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when I
>>>>>>> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
>>>>>> better.
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
>>>>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>>>>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>>>>>
>>>>>> They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>>>>>> industry and grown under the same conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
>>>>> completely different.
>>>>
>>>> whoosh
>>>
>>> Back at ya.

>>
>> Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and twist
>> things. Ugh.

>
> I don't understand how anyone can say that McDonald's revolutionized
> fries/chips. The only thing McDonald's revolutionized is diabetes.
>

I'm not so sure they 'revolutionized diabetes'. Diabetes was around long
before they had anything to do with it. On the other hand, they did
revolutionize the 'speedy acquisition' of childhood obesity and the
ensuing diabetes epidemic which followed.

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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 20:47:57 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:27:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" > wrote in message
. ..
>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when I
>>>>> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
>>>>> >better.
>>>>>
>>>>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
>>>>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>>>>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>>>>>
>>>>> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>>>>> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
>>>>> completely different.
>>>>
>>>>whoosh
>>>
>>> Back at ya.

>>
>>Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and twist
>>things. Ugh.

>
>I don't understand how anyone can say that McDonald's revolutionized
>fries/chips. The only thing McDonald's revolutionized is diabetes.


I believe it could be said the revolutionized making extruded chips,
yucky things.


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> I don't understand how anyone can say that McDonald's revolutionized
> fries/chips. The only thing McDonald's revolutionized is diabetes.
>


Didn't they invent the potato?

Way, way back, McD popularized the French fry and made them readily
available and cheap for the masses. I think they were 10 cents when
burgers were 15 cents. They were salty, tasty, fresh made in beef
tallow. The recipe has changed over the years for healthy eating
reasons. IMO, they are just another fast food fry.

Making them more popular is not a revolution though.
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>
>> Haven't spotted any dick yet -- is it good?

>
> Oh yes, with lots of custard
>


That will be our snack tonight. I saw a can of it when making tea this
morning and it has been a while since we've had some.
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:27:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when I
> >>> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
> >>> >
> >>> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
> >>> >better.
> >>>
> >>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
> >>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
> >>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
> >>>
> >>> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
> >>> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
> >>> completely different.
> >>
> >>whoosh

> >
> > Back at ya.

>
> Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and twist
> things. Ugh.


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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 20:47:57 +1100, Bruce > wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:27:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
> .. .
> >> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when I
> >>>> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
> >>>> >better.
> >>>>
> >>>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
> >>>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
> >>>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
> >>>>
> >>>> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
> >>>> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
> >>>> completely different.
> >>>
> >>>whoosh
> >>
> >> Back at ya.

> >
> >Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and twist
> >things. Ugh.

>
> I don't understand how anyone can say that McDonald's revolutionized
> fries/chips. The only thing McDonald's revolutionized is diabetes.


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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 07:05:45 -0800, sf > wrote:

>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 20:47:57 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:27:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Bruce" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> >> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips when I
>> >>>> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
>> >>>> >better.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You can
>> >>>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>> >>>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>> >>>> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result is
>> >>>> completely different.
>> >>>
>> >>>whoosh
>> >>
>> >> Back at ya.
>> >
>> >Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and twist
>> >things. Ugh.

>>
>> I don't understand how anyone can say that McDonald's revolutionized
>> fries/chips. The only thing McDonald's revolutionized is diabetes.

>
>Typical myopia of the British.


vs. the fattiness of Americans who stuff themselves with McDogs food,
if you can call it food - yuck.


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> On 11/14/2015 4:30 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>>

>
>
>>
>>> Haven't spotted any dick yet -- is it good?

>>
>> Oh yes, with lots of custard
>>

>
> That will be our snack tonight. I saw a can of it when making tea this
> morning and it has been a while since we've had some.


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"sf" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:27:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce >
>> >>> >wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips
>> >>> >> when I
>> >>> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
>> >>> >better.
>> >>>
>> >>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You
>> >>> can
>> >>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>> >>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>> >>>
>> >>> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>> >>> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
>> >>>
>> >>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result
>> >>> is
>> >>> completely different.
>> >>
>> >>whoosh
>> >
>> > Back at ya.

>>
>> Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and twist
>> things. Ugh.

>
> Goodness gracious. How rude.


Get real. Your panties are in twist over something I wrote to Bruce.
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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:53:57 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

> On 11/14/2015 4:47 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
> >
> > I don't understand how anyone can say that McDonald's revolutionized
> > fries/chips. The only thing McDonald's revolutionized is diabetes.
> >

>
> Didn't they invent the potato?
>
> Way, way back, McD popularized the French fry and made them readily
> available and cheap for the masses. I think they were 10 cents when
> burgers were 15 cents. They were salty, tasty, fresh made in beef
> tallow. The recipe has changed over the years for healthy eating
> reasons. IMO, they are just another fast food fry.
>
> Making them more popular is not a revolution though.


They completely changed the standards of potato production and
potatoes in general. Those humongous 1+ pound potatoes people call
dinner these days were virtually unknown until McDonald's became a
behemoth and their demands were met with "of course". If their model
didn't work, no one else would have copied them.

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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 15:09:59 -0000, "Ophelia" >
wrote:

>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:27:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce > wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce >
> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips
> >> >>> >> when I
> >> >>> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
> >> >>> >better.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You
> >> >>> can
> >> >>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
> >> >>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
> >> >>> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end result
> >> >>> is
> >> >>> completely different.
> >> >>
> >> >>whoosh
> >> >
> >> > Back at ya.
> >>
> >> Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and twist
> >> things. Ugh.

> >
> > Goodness gracious. How rude.

>
> Get real. Your panties are in twist over something I wrote to Bruce.
> and I am not apologizing to you for having an opinion.


It was just a meme. Not asking for one and don't care what you think.

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> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 15:09:59 -0000, "Ophelia" >
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "sf" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:27:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce >
>> >> >>wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce >
>> >> >>> >wrote:
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips
>> >> >>> >> when I
>> >> >>> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's them
>> >> >>> >better.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries. You
>> >> >>> can
>> >> >>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>> >> >>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>> >> >>> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end
>> >> >>> result
>> >> >>> is
>> >> >>> completely different.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>whoosh
>> >> >
>> >> > Back at ya.
>> >>
>> >> Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and
>> >> twist
>> >> things. Ugh.
>> >
>> > Goodness gracious. How rude.

>>
>> Get real. Your panties are in twist over something I wrote to Bruce.
>> and I am not apologizing to you for having an opinion.

>
> It was just a meme. Not asking for one and don't care what you think.


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...
>
>
> "sf" > wrote in message
> ...
>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 15:09:59 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "sf" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> > On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:27:22 -0000, "Ophelia" >
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> "Bruce" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:35:51 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 04:48:25 +1100, Bruce >
>>> >> >>wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 07:36:57 -0800, sf > wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:29:44 +1100, Bruce >
>>> >> >>> >wrote:
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >> But they're very mediocre fries/chips. I get much better chips
>>> >> >>> >> when I
>>> >> >>> >> order fish and chips at the local pub.
>>> >> >>> >
>>> >> >>> >Fine, you think the way some pub in Australia cuts and fry's
>>> >> >>> >them
>>> >> >>> >better.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> They don't do anything that special but they serve good fries.
>>> >> >>> You
>>> >> >>> can
>>> >> >>> also get bad fries in Australian pubs, by the way. The shaped and
>>> >> >>> underfried cardboard pulp type.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> >They're made with potatoes developed for the fast food
>>> >> >>> >industry and grown under the same conditions.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> I don't know about the genetics of the potatoes, but the end
>>> >> >>> result
>>> >> >>> is
>>> >> >>> completely different.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>whoosh
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Back at ya.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ignore her. She is not nearly so bright as she thinks she is and
>>> >> twist
>>> >> things. Ugh.
>>> >
>>> > Goodness gracious. How rude.
>>>
>>> Get real. Your panties are in twist over something I wrote to Bruce.
>>> and I am not apologizing to you for having an opinion.

>>
>> It was just a meme. Not asking for one and don't care what you think.

>
> *smile*
>

A meme (/'mi?m/ meem) is "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from
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> Way, way back, McD popularized the French fry and made them readily
> available and cheap for the masses. I think they were 10 cents when
> burgers were 15 cents.


Early 60's when we got our first McDonalds near Annapolis, MD.
Fries were 12 cents - same as comic books
Hamburgers were 15 cents.
Bazooka bubble gum with comic and fortune cost a penny.

Each week, I would divide my measly allowance and buy one fries, one
hamburger, and some comic books. I always had to have my McD fix so I
usually begged my mom for some extra money for a few extra comic
books. She was a softy too....she always gave me enough to buy 3-4
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> Didn't they invent the potato?
>
> Way, way back, McD popularized the French fry and made them readily
> available and cheap for the masses. I think they were 10 cents when
> burgers were 15 cents. They were salty, tasty, fresh made in beef
> tallow. The recipe has changed over the years for healthy eating
> reasons. IMO, they are just another fast food fry.
>
> Making them more popular is not a revolution though.


French fries were popular around here long before there was a McDonalds.
They were a common dish and side dish long before that fast food
franchise. Most restaurants around here offered them with gravy.
Frankly, I don't understand the attraction to McDonalds fries. I think
they are about the worst fries around.
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>
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:53:57 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
>
> > On 11/14/2015 4:47 AM, Bruce wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I don't understand how anyone can say that McDonald's revolutionized
> > > fries/chips. The only thing McDonald's revolutionized is diabetes.
> > >

> >
> > Didn't they invent the potato?
> >
> > Way, way back, McD popularized the French fry and made them readily
> > available and cheap for the masses. I think they were 10 cents when
> > burgers were 15 cents. They were salty, tasty, fresh made in beef
> > tallow. The recipe has changed over the years for healthy eating
> > reasons. IMO, they are just another fast food fry.
> >
> > Making them more popular is not a revolution though.

>
> They completely changed the standards of potato production and
> potatoes in general. Those humongous 1+ pound potatoes people call
> dinner these days were virtually unknown until McDonald's became a
> behemoth


That is absolute nonsense. Mc D's first burger/hotdog stall was in
1937. LONG before then, in other climates farmers and home gardeners
could and did grow potatoes of that size (and without irrigation).

Here's all the crud that goes into Mc D French Fries.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/22/macdon...vealed-how-it-
makes-french-fries-5031511/

Chips, OTOH, are just peeled, cut and fried in boiling fat which is
why both the texture and taste are so superior to FF.

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Totally untrue.

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> YMMV but mine never will. I've always loved and always will love McD
> food. They are not responsible for overweight people. The people
> themselves that overeat need to take full responsibility for that.


I'm right there with you. I don't go there much at all anymore, but I do
love the food, and it is up to people as to what and how much they stuff in
their faces, not McD's, Little Debbie, Hostess, or anyone else.

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> YMMV but mine never will. I've always loved and always will love McD
> food. They are not responsible for overweight people. The people
> themselves that overeat need to take full responsibility for that.


You're right about that. I became morbidly obese while only
going to McDonalds about once or twice a decade.

I'm not a fan of McDonalds. Their burgers are overcooked. I'd
rather have a good bar burger cooked medium-rare.

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> says...
> >
> > On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 09:53:57 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:
> >
> > > On 11/14/2015 4:47 AM, Bruce wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand how anyone can say that McDonald's revolutionized
> > > > fries/chips. The only thing McDonald's revolutionized is diabetes.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Didn't they invent the potato?
> > >
> > > Way, way back, McD popularized the French fry and made them readily
> > > available and cheap for the masses. I think they were 10 cents when
> > > burgers were 15 cents. They were salty, tasty, fresh made in beef
> > > tallow. The recipe has changed over the years for healthy eating
> > > reasons. IMO, they are just another fast food fry.
> > >
> > > Making them more popular is not a revolution though.

> >
> > They completely changed the standards of potato production and
> > potatoes in general. Those humongous 1+ pound potatoes people call
> > dinner these days were virtually unknown until McDonald's became a
> > behemoth

>
> That is absolute nonsense. Mc D's first burger/hotdog stall was in
> 1937. LONG before then, in other climates farmers and home gardeners
> could and did grow potatoes of that size (and without irrigation).
>
> Here's all the crud that goes into Mc D French Fries.
>
>
http://metro.co.uk/2015/01/22/macdon...vealed-how-it-
> makes-french-fries-5031511/
>
> Chips, OTOH, are just peeled, cut and fried in boiling fat which is
> why both the texture and taste are so superior to FF.


When we peel, cut, and fry potatoes in boiling fat, we call them
French fries. No difference, really. I've had them cut every way
from thin shoestrings of potato 1/4" thick to enormous wedges that
amounted to about 1/8 of a potato.

McDonalds just made a commodity of them, and lowered everybody's expectation
of what a French fry should be.

I can recall eating some godawful French fries in the early 60s, before
McD's took hold of the American palate. And I can recall eating some
excellent ones over the years.

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>> YMMV but mine never will. I've always loved and always will love McD
>> food. They are not responsible for overweight people. The people
>> themselves that overeat need to take full responsibility for that.

>
> I'm right there with you. I don't go there much at all anymore, but I do
> love the food, and it is up to people as to what and how much they stuff
> in their faces, not McD's, Little Debbie, Hostess, or anyone else.


Very true. Nobody forces them to eat it.


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>> vs. the fattiness of Americans who stuff themselves with McDogs food,
>> if you can call it food - yuck.

>
>You need to lighten up on this issue. First of all, you might not like
>McDonalds food but you are in the minority. Lots of ppl like it and
>the company makes a fortune each year worldwide.
>
>It's "different" food and I've always loved it. Don't eat there often,
>maybe once or twice a year but I'm always happy when I do.
>
>Because of the McD french fry talk here lately, I stopped by on the
>way home yesterday. All I bought was 2 small fries (from their 'not a
>dollar anymore' menu). They were fresh cooked. Got out to my van and
>tasted one. It needed a bit of salt so I dumped out both bags into the
>large bag, added one packet of their nifty popcorn salt, shook the bag
>then started eating them as I drove home.
>
>Keep in mind, I hadn't had these in almost a year but WOW! What an
>amazingly good taste and crunch. There was no stopping. Their food is
>no where near YUCK. It's pretty darn good eats.
>
>YMMV but mine never will. I've always loved and always will love McD
>food. They are not responsible for overweight people. The people
>themselves that overeat need to take full responsibility for that.


We have to agree to disagree on this - it's something like 30 years
since I was in one or ate anything of theirs.
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On 11/14/2015 11:55 AM, Gary wrote:


> YMMV but mine never will. I've always loved and always will love McD
> food. They are not responsible for overweight people. The people
> themselves that overeat need to take full responsibility for that.
>


Every Thursday morning I stop on my way to work and get two breakfast
sandwiches. I have breakfast a couple days a week with a co-worker. She
likes the McGriddles so ai get her one and I sometimes get that or a
biscuit sandwich. Been doing that for a few years. .
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On 11/14/2015 12:43 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

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> I'm not a fan of McDonalds. Their burgers are overcooked. I'd
> rather have a good bar burger cooked medium-rare.
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> Cindy Hamilton
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Many of us would. It is sometimes a matter of convenience. Two minutes
through the drive through versus 20+ going to a real burger place.
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On 11/14/2015 1:04 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> Many of us would. It is sometimes a matter of convenience. Two minutes
> through the drive through versus 20+ going to a real burger place.


Naturally I would like a nice burger or other at home or in some
restaurant, but days like yesterday, I spent all morning pulling out
dead flowers and otherwise getting the yard ready for winter, taking
four drum liners of crap to the recycle yard ... we just grabbed
lunch at McDonald's, strictly a coincidence. It's all I had the
energy for, it was fine. A chicken sandwich and some fries. Done.

nancy

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