On Friday, September 26, 2014 6:49:29 PM UTC-10, wrote:
> On Friday, September 26, 2014 8:29:31 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is very
>
> > > hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7 years.
>
> > > Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably 3% of sushi's
>
> > > have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
>
> >
>
> > Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains Krab.
>
> >
>
>
>
> California roll with its delicious Krab is the archetypal supermarket
>
> sushi.

One of my customers said that Fridays was his night to make dinner. He thought he was going to make his creation which was krab, onions, eggs, lots of cheese, and butter mixed together. I thought that was kind of goofy. OTOH, he's a well respected scientist so well, you know...

On 9/25/2014 8:12 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> When I first had sashimi at the age of 10,
> my grandfather was at the same dinner and
> I found out why he wouldn't eat it. I loved
> the stuff right from the start.
>
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2768117
>

Somehow, I very much doubt the veracity of the article. That second
x-ray(?) image shown is not some one who's male, and the article clearly
states the victim is male.

Sky

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 22:26:58 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> Most of the grocery stores here have two full time people cranking out
> sushi at a kiosk.


> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 22:29:31 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> Another 20% contains Krab.
>
> -sw


> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 08:21:36 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> There's plenty of dickless males here, at least.


> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 2014-09-27 10:13 AM, Janet wrote:
I always cook smoked haddock and kippers.
>
>> Yep, smoked is a form of cooking. It's not completely strictly raw salmon.
>
> In Scotland, fish can be hot smoked or cold smoked. Cold-smoked salmon
> is still raw. I never cook it.
>

Nor do I. I have made cold smoked several times. Pack in salt and
sugar for 12 hours to suck out the juices, then rinse and soak in a
saturated brine for another 12 hours. Rinse off excess salt, then brush
with sugar and booze. Smoking it for a few minutes at less than 110F is
optional at that point.






>
>
>

On 2014-09-27 10:24 AM, Gary wrote:
> Janet wrote:
>>
>> In Scotland, fish can be hot smoked or cold smoked. Cold-smoked salmon
>> is still raw. I never cook it.
>
> Perhaps you should try cooking it sometime and see what you think.
> :-)
>


Are you sometimes really impressed with your own wit?

On 9/26/2014 10:08 PM, Sky wrote:
> On 9/25/2014 8:12 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
>> When I first had sashimi at the age of 10,
>> my grandfather was at the same dinner and
>> I found out why he wouldn't eat it. I loved
>> the stuff right from the start.
>>
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2768117
>>
>
> Somehow, I very much doubt the veracity of the article. That second
> x-ray(?) image shown is not some one who's male, and the article clearly
> states the victim is male.
>
> Sky

OTOH, I think that promoting the fear of eating fish and sushi is a good
thing. We don't need a bunch of Americans cutting into our share of raw
eatin' fish! Please don't eat tuna - cooked or raw!

Brooklyn1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > David E. Ross wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On 9/25/2014 6:12 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:
> >> > When I first had sashimi at the age of 10,
> >> > my grandfather was at the same dinner and
> >> > I found out why he wouldn't eat it. I loved
> >> > the stuff right from the start.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2768117
> >> >
> >>
> >> After some episodes of extreme intestinal distress after dining on
> >> sashimi (sushi without the rice), my doctor suggested that I had
> >> picked up an intestinal parasite from the sashimi. I told my
> doctor >> that, prior to the first episode, I had not had any sushi
> or sashimi >> for quite a few months; and I had at least two episodes
> of intestinal >> distress before eating the sashimi. My doctor then
> changed his mind >> about the source of my problem. We are still
> waiting for the lab >> results.
> >>
> >> I find it strange that the first episode occurred shortly after a
> >> colonoscopy, during which three polyps were removed from my colon.
> >> The polyps proved to be benign.
> >
> > Hi David, small correction. Sushi is with rice, yes but doesnt
> > indicate raw fish. Sashimi is raw fish (and may come over rice,
> > normally does).
> >
> > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
> > very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
> > years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably 3%
> > of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
> >
> > Don't get western religion on 'vegetarian' there as to them fish is
> > meat. When they say vegetarian there, it has no fish or anything
> > science would classify as family animalia.
>
> Everywhere on the planet Earth all fish is deemed animal except by the
> moroons who are looking for alibis... I've known many nudnicks who
> claimed to be vegetarian yet ate poultry... like a chicken was a
> carrot. Actually there is no such thing as a vegetarian... humans
> must eat meat protein or they will soon die. I've known people who
> claimed to be devout vegetarians yet I've caught them eating tube
> steak.

Smile, there are real vegetarians but they come in versons. Some eat
dairy and some eat dairy and eggs for example.

The bit where 'fish isnt meat' seems to come from European Cristian
sets (not all Catholic). It was something on curbing demand at a time
in some historical searches. Basically they came up with 'meatless
Friday' then turned around and decided fish didnt count.

You'll probably upset a lot of people who do not want to believe
fish=meat and it's always religion based. Me, I just laugh and say
nothing as I move on when folks post a 'meatless Friday' of Heminway
Trout and so on.
Carol

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Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
> > very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
> > years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably 3%
> > of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
>
> Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains Krab.
>
> -sw

Really? You mustlive somewhere very odd then. I ddnt say they were
all vegetarian, but I said about 30% were. Your 70% with meat shows
the same.

You might want to check on the fish and see if it is genuinely raw.
For example, eel in sushi is always cooked. It may have been cooked in
a canning process (yes, canned eel is a good item for sushi, sounds odd
but tastes great). Mackeral is always cooked or party heat dried.
Squid is cooked. Salmon is always cooked (paracite issues, dangerous
raw). Most of the fish/seafoods in sushi are precooked but not to the
dessicated levels Americans do. The cooking is best related to a rare
steak but it IS cooked.

The most popular raw fish types are tuna and sea bass. You can also
find snapper and (um, english escapes, onaga? another white fleshed
fish).

One method of 'cooking the fish' is to use still very hot rice for the
sushi. The fish steam cooks as the roll cools before it is sliced for
serving. Hand Sushi (Nigiri?) is often done that way.

To get true raw fish in sushi, the rice must be cold (harder to handle)
before forming the roll.

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wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Friday, September 26, 2014 8:29:31 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
> > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
> > > very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
> > > years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably
> > > 3% of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
> >
> > Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
> > Krab.
> >
>
> California roll with its delicious Krab is the archetypal supermarket
> sushi.

Grin, maybe bit guess what. They love it in Japan too. They either
call it California Roll or American Sushi. Quite popular there and for
good reason. Well made and fresh, it is quite good. They also use the
fake 'crab/lobster' stuff in a lot of sushi's there and it's also quite
good. (BTW, the crab stuff is also cooked of course).

--

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 9/26/2014 3:46 PM, James Silverton wrote:
> > On 9/26/2014 3:05 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > On 2014-09-26 1:33 PM, Janet wrote:
> > > > In article >,
> > > > says...
> > > > >
> >>>>"Gary" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've never had a problem - there are some fish that taste
> > > > > > > far better not cooked.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > nope
> > > > >
> > > > > Agreed 100%, nope.
> > > >
> >>> You don't like smoked salmon?
> > > >
> > > I remember my mother foisting Finn and Haddie on us when we
> > > young. I later acquired a taste for smoked fish. I enjoy smoked
> > > trout and trout.
> > >
> > It's Finnan Haddie and is essentially partially cooked being
> > hot-smoked if it is not actually cooked for the meal.
> >
>
> Yep, smoked is a form of cooking. It's not completely strictly raw
> salmon.
>
> Jill

Hi Jill, raw salmon is a major bad one. Paracites. It has to be cooked
but smoking type cooking kills them.


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On Saturday, September 27, 2014 9:45:44 PM UTC-7, cshenk wrote:
> jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>

> > Yep, smoked is a form of cooking. It's not completely strictly raw
> > salmon.
>

> Hi Jill, raw salmon is a major bad one. Paracites. It has to be cooked
> but smoking type cooking kills them.
>

The Oregon fishing rules and regulations book even goes to the trouble to
warn anglers about the dangers of letting their dogs eat raw salmon --
parasites.

wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Saturday, September 27, 2014 9:45:44 PM UTC-7, cshenk wrote:
> > jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
>
> > > Yep, smoked is a form of cooking. It's not completely strictly
> > > raw salmon.
> >
>
> > Hi Jill, raw salmon is a major bad one. Paracites. It has to be
> > cooked but smoking type cooking kills them.
> >
>
> The Oregon fishing rules and regulations book even goes to the
> trouble to warn anglers about the dangers of letting their dogs eat
> raw salmon -- parasites.

Yup. Big issue with that and folks trying to feed dogs on the cheap up
North. Long cold freezing makes it ok, but that is OF for at least 2
weeks. Thats a commercial freezer without the warming defrost.



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On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:42:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > On Friday, September 26, 2014 8:29:31 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
> > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
> > > > very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
> > > > years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably
> > > > 3% of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
> > >
> > > Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
> > > Krab.
> > >
> >
> > California roll with its delicious Krab is the archetypal supermarket
> > sushi.
>
> Grin, maybe bit guess what. They love it in Japan too. They either
> call it California Roll or American Sushi. Quite popular there and for
> good reason. Well made and fresh, it is quite good. They also use the
> fake 'crab/lobster' stuff in a lot of sushi's there and it's also quite
> good. (BTW, the crab stuff is also cooked of course).

I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
weird to me.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

"sf" > wrote in message
news
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:42:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>> > On Friday, September 26, 2014 8:29:31 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
>> > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
>> > > > very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
>> > > > years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably
>> > > > 3% of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
>> > >
>> > > Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
>> > > Krab.
>> > >
>> >
>> > California roll with its delicious Krab is the archetypal supermarket
>> > sushi.
>>
>> Grin, maybe bit guess what. They love it in Japan too. They either
>> call it California Roll or American Sushi. Quite popular there and for
>> good reason. Well made and fresh, it is quite good. They also use the
>> fake 'crab/lobster' stuff in a lot of sushi's there and it's also quite
>> good. (BTW, the crab stuff is also cooked of course).
>
> I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
> different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
> weird to me.

I find it completely lacking in flavor. I had some like this on a cruise
ship once. It looked nice, but it was just a bunch of rice and a lump of
something that tasted like nothing. even the rice was not seasoned
properly. Why go through the effort at all?

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 07:44:51 -0700, "Pico Rico"
> wrote:

> I find it completely lacking in flavor. I had some like this on a cruise
> ship once. It looked nice, but it was just a bunch of rice and a lump of
> something that tasted like nothing. even the rice was not seasoned
> properly. Why go through the effort at all?

Maybe that's it! I guess properly seasoned rice is crucial to the
process.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 9/28/2014 9:44 AM, Pico Rico wrote:
>
> "sf" > wrote in message

>> I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
>> different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
>> weird to me.
>
> I find it completely lacking in flavor. I had some like this on a cruise
> ship once. It looked nice, but it was just a bunch of rice and a lump of
> something that tasted like nothing. even the rice was not seasoned
> properly. Why go through the effort at all?

Back in the old days, Norwegian Cruise Line had pretty good sushi, but
that changed. We cruised on the Navigator of the Seas on September 7th
and we ate in their sushi restaurant 4 times and it was wonderful. We
had lunch there, once, and their lunch menu is different from their
evening menu. Edamame is offered complimentary, but you pay for
everything else.

Becca

On 9/27/2014 11:36 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>>
>>> Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
>>> very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
>>> years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably 3%
>>> of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
>>
>> Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains Krab.
>>
>> -sw
>
> Really? You mustlive somewhere very odd then. I ddnt say they were
> all vegetarian, but I said about 30% were. Your 70% with meat shows
> the same.
>
> You might want to check on the fish and see if it is genuinely raw.
> For example, eel in sushi is always cooked. It may have been cooked in
> a canning process (yes, canned eel is a good item for sushi, sounds odd
> but tastes great). Mackeral is always cooked or party heat dried.
> Squid is cooked. Salmon is always cooked (paracite issues, dangerous
> raw). Most of the fish/seafoods in sushi are precooked but not to the
> dessicated levels Americans do. The cooking is best related to a rare
> steak but it IS cooked.
>
> The most popular raw fish types are tuna and sea bass. You can also
> find snapper and (um, english escapes, onaga? another white fleshed
> fish).
>
> One method of 'cooking the fish' is to use still very hot rice for the
> sushi. The fish steam cooks as the roll cools before it is sliced for
> serving. Hand Sushi (Nigiri?) is often done that way.
>
> To get true raw fish in sushi, the rice must be cold (harder to handle)
> before forming the roll.

If you eat sushi in a Chinese restaurant or a supermarket, I assume it
is cooked, so is tempura, shrimp and crab.

Sushi restaurants have sushi and sashimi that is raw. The raw fish is
sushi grade which means it is flash-frozen, to make it safe to eat. Some
squid might be cooked, but I have eaten squid which was raw, it tasted
sweet and mellow.

Becca

On 9/28/2014 10:41 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:42:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Friday, September 26, 2014 8:29:31 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
>>>>> very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
>>>>> years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably
>>>>> 3% of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
>>>>
>>>> Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
>>>> Krab.
>>>>
>>>
>>> California roll with its delicious Krab is the archetypal supermarket
>>> sushi.
>>
>> Grin, maybe bit guess what. They love it in Japan too. They either
>> call it California Roll or American Sushi. Quite popular there and for
>> good reason. Well made and fresh, it is quite good. They also use the
>> fake 'crab/lobster' stuff in a lot of sushi's there and it's also quite
>> good. (BTW, the crab stuff is also cooked of course).
>
> I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
> different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
> weird to me.
>
>
I thought the imitation crab in Japanese dishes and sushi was called
Surimi. Of course, Krab may be a brand name; the Japanese seem prone to
those re-spellings like "Chikin".

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On 9/28/2014 10:41 AM, sf wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:42:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
>> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>
>>> On Friday, September 26, 2014 8:29:31 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
>>>>> very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
>>>>> years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably
>>>>> 3% of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
>>>>
>>>> Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
>>>> Krab.
>>>>
>>>
>>> California roll with its delicious Krab is the archetypal supermarket
>>> sushi.
>>
>> Grin, maybe bit guess what. They love it in Japan too. They either
>> call it California Roll or American Sushi. Quite popular there and for
>> good reason. Well made and fresh, it is quite good. They also use the
>> fake 'crab/lobster' stuff in a lot of sushi's there and it's also quite
>> good. (BTW, the crab stuff is also cooked of course).
>
> I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
> different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
> weird to me.
>
>
A major problem with supermarket sushi is freshness. "Made fresh daily"
is *not* a recommendation for sushi. Even conveyor-belt sushi
restaurants have a mechanism to remove the dishes an hour after they are
set out.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:41:50 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

> On 9/28/2014 10:41 AM, sf wrote:

> > I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
> > different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
> > weird to me.
> >
> >
> A major problem with supermarket sushi is freshness. "Made fresh daily"
> is *not* a recommendation for sushi. Even conveyor-belt sushi
> restaurants have a mechanism to remove the dishes an hour after they are
> set out.

That too, but I can watch them make it and still don't like it. I
think Pico is probably right, they don't season the rice properly.


--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On 9/28/2014 1:17 PM, sf wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:41:50 -0400, James Silverton
> > wrote:
>
>> On 9/28/2014 10:41 AM, sf wrote:
>
>>> I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
>>> different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
>>> weird to me.
>>>
>>>
>> A major problem with supermarket sushi is freshness. "Made fresh daily"
>> is *not* a recommendation for sushi. Even conveyor-belt sushi
>> restaurants have a mechanism to remove the dishes an hour after they are
>> set out.
>
> That too, but I can watch them make it and still don't like it. I
> think Pico is probably right, they don't season the rice properly.
>
>
I wonder why that lack of seasoning should be the case? Flavored sushi
vinegar for preparing the rice is not expensive and, in fact, neither is
the spice mixture.

By the way, I had forgotten the name for conveyor-belt sushi and I
gather it is "Kaiten zushi" (machinery mostly made in Korea.)

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 13:34:42 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

> On 9/28/2014 1:17 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:41:50 -0400, James Silverton
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/28/2014 10:41 AM, sf wrote:
> >
> >>> I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
> >>> different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
> >>> weird to me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >> A major problem with supermarket sushi is freshness. "Made fresh daily"
> >> is *not* a recommendation for sushi. Even conveyor-belt sushi
> >> restaurants have a mechanism to remove the dishes an hour after they are
> >> set out.
> >
> > That too, but I can watch them make it and still don't like it. I
> > think Pico is probably right, they don't season the rice properly.
> >
> >
> I wonder why that lack of seasoning should be the case? Flavored sushi
> vinegar for preparing the rice is not expensive and, in fact, neither is
> the spice mixture.

All the usual cost cutting, I presume.
>
> By the way, I had forgotten the name for conveyor-belt sushi and I
> gather it is "Kaiten zushi" (machinery mostly made in Korea.)



--
Avoid cutting yourself when slicing vegetables by getting someone else to hold them.

On Sunday, September 28, 2014 4:44:51 AM UTC-10, Pico Rico wrote:
> "sf" > wrote in message
>
> news >
> > On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:42:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> >>
>
> >> > On Friday, September 26, 2014 8:29:31 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
>
> >> > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>
> >> > >
>
> >> > > > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
>
> >> > > > very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
>
> >> > > > years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably
>
> >> > > > 3% of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
>
> >> > >
>
> >> > > Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
>
> >> > > Krab.
>
> >> > >
>
> >> >
>
> >> > California roll with its delicious Krab is the archetypal supermarket
>
> >> > sushi.
>
> >>
>
> >> Grin, maybe bit guess what. They love it in Japan too. They either
>
> >> call it California Roll or American Sushi. Quite popular there and for
>
> >> good reason. Well made and fresh, it is quite good. They also use the
>
> >> fake 'crab/lobster' stuff in a lot of sushi's there and it's also quite
>
> >> good. (BTW, the crab stuff is also cooked of course).
>
> >
>
> > I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
>
> > different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
>
> > weird to me.
>
>
>
> I find it completely lacking in flavor. I had some like this on a cruise
>
> ship once. It looked nice, but it was just a bunch of rice and a lump of
>
> something that tasted like nothing. even the rice was not seasoned
>
> properly. Why go through the effort at all?

Seasoning the rice involves aerating the hot rice/vinegar/sugar mixture with a paddle while cooling it down with a fan. The old school method is to use a wooden box and paper fan. My auntie did it this way. My guess is that they use an electric fan these days but the proper way to do it is still stirring with a paddle by hand. Doing it right ain't easy!

Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:36:57 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> >>
> >>> Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
> >>> very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
> >>> years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably 3%
> >>> of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
> >>
> >> Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
> Krab.
> >
> > Really? You mustlive somewhere very odd then.
>
> No YOU live someplace odd.
>
> > You might want to check on the fish and see if it is genuinely raw.
>
> Please. You think I don't know the difference? I ain't your average
> RFC pumpkin.
>
> -sw

Try again. I lived in Japan for 7 years. You on the other hand may
assume if you see fish or seafood in the roll, it is raw. You probably
think the Octopus is raw for all we know.

Carol

--

Becca EmaNymton wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 9/27/2014 11:36 PM, cshenk wrote:
> > Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it
> > > > is very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan
> > > > for 7 years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though.
> > > > Probably 3% of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on
> > > > vegetarian.
> > >
> > > Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
> > > Krab.
> > >
> > > -sw
> >
> > Really? You mustlive somewhere very odd then. I ddnt say they were
> > all vegetarian, but I said about 30% were. Your 70% with meat shows
> > the same.
> >
> > You might want to check on the fish and see if it is genuinely raw.
> > For example, eel in sushi is always cooked. It may have been
> > cooked in a canning process (yes, canned eel is a good item for
> > sushi, sounds odd but tastes great). Mackeral is always cooked or
> > party heat dried. Squid is cooked. Salmon is always cooked
> > (paracite issues, dangerous raw). Most of the fish/seafoods in
> > sushi are precooked but not to the dessicated levels Americans do.
> > The cooking is best related to a rare steak but it IS cooked.
> >
> > The most popular raw fish types are tuna and sea bass. You can also
> > find snapper and (um, english escapes, onaga? another white fleshed
> > fish).
> >
> > One method of 'cooking the fish' is to use still very hot rice for
> > the sushi. The fish steam cooks as the roll cools before it is
> > sliced for serving. Hand Sushi (Nigiri?) is often done that way.
> >
> > To get true raw fish in sushi, the rice must be cold (harder to
> > handle) before forming the roll.
>
> If you eat sushi in a Chinese restaurant or a supermarket, I assume
> it is cooked, so is tempura, shrimp and crab.
>
> Sushi restaurants have sushi and sashimi that is raw. The raw fish is
> sushi grade which means it is flash-frozen, to make it safe to eat.
> Some squid might be cooked, but I have eaten squid which was raw, it
> tasted sweet and mellow.
>
> Becca

Sure Becca, as I said there is raw fish in some Sushi's. Believe me, I
lived in Japan for 7 years. I totally 'get it' on the difference. I
know all about flash-frozen too.

The Japanese rules on raw fish are more stringent than USDA in a lot of
places. It;s a place where raw fish is actually pretty safe to consume.

Carol

--

sf wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:42:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
>
> > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > On Friday, September 26, 2014 8:29:31 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is
> > > > > it is very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in
> > > > > Japan for 7 years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy
> > > > > though. Probably 3% of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are
> > > > > full on vegetarian.
> > > >
> > > > Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
> > > > Krab.
> > > >
> > >
> > > California roll with its delicious Krab is the archetypal
> > > supermarket sushi.
> >
> > Grin, maybe bit guess what. They love it in Japan too. They either
> > call it California Roll or American Sushi. Quite popular there and
> > for good reason. Well made and fresh, it is quite good. They also
> > use the fake 'crab/lobster' stuff in a lot of sushi's there and
> > it's also quite good. (BTW, the crab stuff is also cooked of
> > course).
>
> I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
> different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
> weird to me.

Dunno, but maybe it is sitting too long or doesnt have the right rice?
I'm not actually a major sushi fan. I like it well enough, but it's
not a mainstay here.

More on the true sashimi side of the fence.

--

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 02:50:08 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> I ain't your average
> RFC pumpkin.
>
> -sw

> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On 9/28/2014 2:08 PM, cshenk wrote:
> Becca EmaNymton wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
>> On 9/27/2014 11:36 PM, cshenk wrote:
>>> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it
>>>>> is very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan
>>>>> for 7 years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though.
>>>>> Probably 3% of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on
>>>>> vegetarian.
>>>>
>>>> Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
>>>> Krab.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Really? You mustlive somewhere very odd then. I ddnt say they were
>>> all vegetarian, but I said about 30% were. Your 70% with meat shows
>>> the same.
>>>
>>> You might want to check on the fish and see if it is genuinely raw.
>>> For example, eel in sushi is always cooked. It may have been
>>> cooked in a canning process (yes, canned eel is a good item for
>>> sushi, sounds odd but tastes great). Mackeral is always cooked or
>>> party heat dried. Squid is cooked. Salmon is always cooked
>>> (paracite issues, dangerous raw). Most of the fish/seafoods in
>>> sushi are precooked but not to the dessicated levels Americans do.
>>> The cooking is best related to a rare steak but it IS cooked.
>>>
>>> The most popular raw fish types are tuna and sea bass. You can also
>>> find snapper and (um, english escapes, onaga? another white fleshed
>>> fish).
>>>
>>> One method of 'cooking the fish' is to use still very hot rice for
>>> the sushi. The fish steam cooks as the roll cools before it is
>>> sliced for serving. Hand Sushi (Nigiri?) is often done that way.
>>>
>>> To get true raw fish in sushi, the rice must be cold (harder to
>>> handle) before forming the roll.
>>
>> If you eat sushi in a Chinese restaurant or a supermarket, I assume
>> it is cooked, so is tempura, shrimp and crab.
>>
>> Sushi restaurants have sushi and sashimi that is raw. The raw fish is
>> sushi grade which means it is flash-frozen, to make it safe to eat.
>> Some squid might be cooked, but I have eaten squid which was raw, it
>> tasted sweet and mellow.
>>
>> Becca
>
> Sure Becca, as I said there is raw fish in some Sushi's. Believe me, I
> lived in Japan for 7 years. I totally 'get it' on the difference. I
> know all about flash-frozen too.
>
> The Japanese rules on raw fish are more stringent than USDA in a lot of
> places. It;s a place where raw fish is actually pretty safe to consume.
>
> Carol

The United States has few rules and little enforcement when it comes to
uncooked seafood, you just have to hope for the best.

Becca

James Silverton wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 9/28/2014 10:41 AM, sf wrote:
> >On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:42:24 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:
> >
> > > wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > > On Friday, September 26, 2014 8:29:31 PM UTC-7, Sqwertz wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is
> > > > > > it is very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in
> > > > > > Japan for 7 years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy
> > > > > > though. Probably 3% of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are
> > > > > > full on vegetarian.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20%
> > > > > contains Krab.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > California roll with its delicious Krab is the archetypal
> > > > supermarket
> >>> sushi.
> > >
> > > Grin, maybe bit guess what. They love it in Japan too. They
> > > either call it California Roll or American Sushi. Quite popular
> > > there and for good reason. Well made and fresh, it is quite
> > > good. They also use the fake 'crab/lobster' stuff in a lot of
> > > sushi's there and it's also quite good. (BTW, the crab stuff is
> > > also cooked of course).
> >
> > I hate supermarket sushi and I don't know what they do to it that's
> > different. Even though I can watch them make it, it still tastes
> > weird to me.
> >
> >
> I thought the imitation crab in Japanese dishes and sushi was called
> Surimi. Of course, Krab may be a brand name; the Japanese seem prone
> to those re-spellings like "Chikin".

Surimi or suriname are the most common spellings. Yes, laugh with us
all over 'engrish' which they also do deliberately at times just to
have fun with it.

--

On 9/28/2014 4:24 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:16:15 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 13:58:24 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>>
>>> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:36:57 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it is
>>>>>>> very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan for 7
>>>>>>> years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably 3%
>>>>>>> of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
>>>> Krab.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? You mustlive somewhere very odd then.
>>>>
>>>> No YOU live someplace odd.
>>>>
>>>>> You might want to check on the fish and see if it is genuinely raw.
>>>>
>>>> Please. You think I don't know the difference? I ain't your average
>>>> RFC pumpkin.
>>>>
>>>> -sw
>>>
>>> Try again. I lived in Japan for 7 years. You on the other hand may
>>> assume if you see fish or seafood in the roll, it is raw. You probably
>>> think the Octopus is raw for all we know.
>>
>> Oh, lay off the narcissism. And you also claimed that all salmon is
>> cooked when used in sushi, which is total bullshit. Never have I seen
>> cooked salmon in sushi. It's probably the second most popular sashimi
>> fish in the States.
>
> I don't think I've ever had cooked salmon at a Japanese restaurant or
> sushi place. Unless there's something mysterious about raw salmon that
> only makes me think its raw.
>
Oh, surely you've had salmon teriyaki and smoked salmon sushi.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not." in Reply To.

Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 13:58:24 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> >> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:36:57 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it
> is >>>>> very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan
> for 7 >>>>> years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though.
> Probably 3% >>>>> of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on
> vegetarian. >>>>
> >>>> Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
> >> Krab.
> >>>
> >>> Really? You mustlive somewhere very odd then.
> >>
> >> No YOU live someplace odd.
> >>
> >>> You might want to check on the fish and see if it is genuinely
> raw. >>
> >> Please. You think I don't know the difference? I ain't your
> average >> RFC pumpkin.
> >>
> >> -sw
> >
> > Try again. I lived in Japan for 7 years. You on the other hand may
> > assume if you see fish or seafood in the roll, it is raw. You
> > probably think the Octopus is raw for all we know.
>
> Oh, lay off the narcissism. And you also claimed that all salmon is
> cooked when used in sushi, which is total bullshit. Never have I seen
> cooked salmon in sushi. It's probably the second most popular sashimi
> fish in the States.
>
> I suppose you think all this salmon is cooked, right?
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=salm...h=734&source=l
> nms&tbm=isch
>
> Here, educate yourself:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sashimi#Varieties
>
> Living in Japan sure didn't make you any sort of sushi expert.
>
> -sw

You are totally wrong. Raw salmon can not be used in the USA for
sashimi or sushi. Its a Paracite problem.



--

JohnJohn wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:16:15 -0500, Sqwertz >
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 13:58:24 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> >
> >> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:36:57 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own experience is it
> is >>>>>> very hard to find a raw fish in sushi and I lived in Japan
> for 7 >>>>>> years. Finding vegetarian sushi is very easy though.
> Probably 3% >>>>>> of sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on
> vegetarian. >>>>>
> >>>>> Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20% contains
> >>> Krab.
> >>>>
> >>>> Really? You mustlive somewhere very odd then.
> >>>
> >>> No YOU live someplace odd.
> >>>
> >>>> You might want to check on the fish and see if it is genuinely
> raw. >>>
> >>> Please. You think I don't know the difference? I ain't your
> average >>> RFC pumpkin.
> >>>
> >>> -sw
> >>
> >> Try again. I lived in Japan for 7 years. You on the other hand may
> >> assume if you see fish or seafood in the roll, it is raw. You
> probably >> think the Octopus is raw for all we know.
> >
> > Oh, lay off the narcissism. And you also claimed that all salmon is
> > cooked when used in sushi, which is total bullshit. Never have I
> > seen cooked salmon in sushi. It's probably the second most popular
> > sashimi fish in the States.
>
> I don't think I've ever had cooked salmon at a Japanese restaurant or
> sushi place. Unless there's something mysterious about raw salmon that
> only makes me think its raw.

There is a chemiocal cooking used or a smoking method. Neither are
true raw fish but they kill the paracites.

--

James Silverton wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On 9/28/2014 4:24 PM, JohnJohn wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:16:15 -0500, Sqwertz
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 13:58:24 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> > >
> > > > Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:36:57 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 19:13:45 -0500, cshenk wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Most sushi's are not raw fish at all. My own
> > > > > > > > experience is it is very hard to find a raw fish in
> > > > > > > > sushi and I lived in Japan for 7 years. Finding
> > > > > > > > vegetarian sushi is very easy though. Probably 3% of
> > > > > > > > sushi's have raw fish and 30% are full on vegetarian.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here, more than 50% of sushi has raw fish. Another 20%
> > > > > > > contains
> > > > > Krab.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Really? You mustlive somewhere very odd then.
> > > > >
> > > > > No YOU live someplace odd.
> > > > >
> > > > > > You might want to check on the fish and see if it is
> > > > > > genuinely raw.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please. You think I don't know the difference? I ain't your
> > > > > average RFC pumpkin.
> > > > >
> > > > > -sw
> > > >
> > > > Try again. I lived in Japan for 7 years. You on the other hand
> > > > may assume if you see fish or seafood in the roll, it is raw.
> > > > You probably think the Octopus is raw for all we know.
> > >
> > > Oh, lay off the narcissism. And you also claimed that all salmon
> > > is cooked when used in sushi, which is total bullshit. Never
> > > have I seen cooked salmon in sushi. It's probably the second
> > > most popular sashimi fish in the States.
> >
> > I don't think I've ever had cooked salmon at a Japanese restaurant
> > or sushi place. Unless there's something mysterious about raw
> > salmon that only makes me think its raw.
> >
> Oh, surely you've had salmon teriyaki and smoked salmon sushi.

Yup, he thinks it raw salmon. Neither is.

--

Bregs wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Anyone got a good filter for this bregs asshole?

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:43:33 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> Maybe somebody
> makes it with hot smoked salmon but I've never seen it.
>
> -sw


> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 15:16:15 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> Oh, lay off the narcissism.


> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:46:16 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

> There is a chemiocal cooking used or a smoking method. Neither are
> true raw fish but they kill the paracites.

Well, that part's good to know. I was beginning to wonder if I needed
to give up eating home made gravlax.


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On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 16:50:07 -0500, "cshenk" > wrote:

>
> Bregs wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> Anyone got a good filter for this bregs asshole?

Author: Bregs (gone).


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