Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Aug 20, 1:25*pm, "Christopher M." > wrote:
> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

Raw? Not a fan of dough myself...

Christopher M. wrote:

> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?

Raw bread? How bizarre.

I can share one a tip with you: Shelley uses it twice, but only the
second time involves eating.

I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
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>
>
> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.

There's the rub.

Thank you.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Aug 20, 5:04*pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.

This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. I couldn't find the actual strip
online.

Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
me?

Lucy: Here you are.

Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!

wrote:
> On Aug 20, 5:04 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.
>
> This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. I couldn't find the actual strip
> online.
>
> Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
> me?
>
> Lucy: Here you are.
>
> Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
> singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!

They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.

I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

Most supermarket cookies totally suck. You'd think they'd have a decent way of making a cookie. Not yet.

"Christopher M." wrote:
>
> wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 5:04 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> >> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.
> >
> > This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. I couldn't find the actual strip
> > online.
> >
> > Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
> > me?
> >
> > Lucy: Here you are.
> >
> > Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
> > singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!
>
> They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.
>
> I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.

I think I can honestly say that I've never touched anything with a ten foot
pole.

G.

Gary wrote:

> > They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.
> >
> > I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.
>
> I think I can honestly say that I've never touched anything with a ten foot
> pole.

Of course you haven't. That's why your crew sends American jobs
overseas.

On Aug 21, 2:14*pm, Gary > wrote:
> "Christopher M." wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> > > On Aug 20, 5:04 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> > >> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.
>
> > > This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. *I couldn't find the actual strip
> > > online.
>
> > > Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
> > > me?
>
> > > Lucy: Here you are.
>
> > > Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
> > > singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!
>
> > They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.
>
> > I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.
>
> I think I can honestly say that I've never touched anything with a ten foot
> pole.
>
> G.

I've found a 9 footer works just fine.

On 8/21/2012 5:14 PM, Gary wrote:
> "Christopher M." wrote:
>>
>> They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.
>>
>> I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.
>
> I think I can honestly say that I've never touched anything with a ten foot
> pole.
>
> G.
>
I guess you've never had to wrangle an alligator. Neither have I
When I had one in my back yard, security sent a young woman down with a
10 foot pole with a wire loop on the end. She's in that rare group of
people who *can* say she's touched something with a ten foot pole!

OB Food: Alligator chili

Jill

On 8/20/2012 10:49 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
> wrote:
>> On Aug 20, 5:04 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>>> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.
>>
>> This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. I couldn't find the actual strip
>> online.
>>
>> Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
>> me?
>>
>> Lucy: Here you are.
>>
>> Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
>> singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!
>
> They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.
>
> I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.

I like them like that!

Cheryl wrote:

> > They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.

> I like them like that!

Well, you can use your heat vision to finish baking them. The rest of
us have to use an oven.

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
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> On 8/20/2012 10:49 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
>> wrote:
>>> On Aug 20, 5:04 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>>>> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.
>>>
>>> This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. I couldn't find the actual strip
>>> online.
>>>
>>> Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
>>> me?
>>>
>>> Lucy: Here you are.
>>>
>>> Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
>>> singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!
>>
>> They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.
>>
>> I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.
>
> I like them like that!

I think sugar cookies taste 100% better when their toasty. But maybe when
they're not toasty they're like wedding cookies?

Sometimes I cook puff pastry. I put some jelly and whipped frosting inside.
But I'm very careful to avoid browning them too much.

I hate overly-brown puff pastry desserts. I also hate butter cookies.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:25:01 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:

>Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>
>
>W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
Yes.
Janet US

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:25:01 -0400, "Christopher M."
> > wrote:
>
>>Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>
>>
>>W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>>
> Yes.
> Janet US

I feel kind of silly. I usually just eat it untoasted.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"Christopher M." > wrote in message
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> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?

Yes.

On Aug 20, 2:59*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>
> Yes.

You eat bread dough?

On 8/20/2012 4:25 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
>
Just what is "artisan bread"? Must it be made by a small single bakery
or perhaps a specialist chain like Great Harvest (as I mentioned a day
or so ago)?

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

"Christopher M." > wrote in message
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> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?

Ironically.
(I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
buzzword that really means "higher prices"!

On 8/21/2012 3:19 PM, news wrote:
> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>
> Ironically.
> (I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
> buzzword that really means "higher prices"!
>
>
And snobbish. I hate the way Dominos pizza advertizes their "artisan
pizza" as being sold as-is and you can't modify toppings because their
choice of toppings is better than anyone else can decide.

Cheryl wrote:

> And snobbish. I hate the way Dominos pizza advertizes their "artisan
> pizza" as being sold as-is and you can't modify toppings because their
> choice of toppings is better than anyone else can decide.

Does that really matter? Don't tell me you actually care whether
Domino's calls their slop "artisinal".

On 8/23/2012 10:57 PM, George M. Middius wrote:

> Cheryl wrote:
>
>> And snobbish. I hate the way Dominos pizza advertizes their "artisan
>> pizza" as being sold as-is and you can't modify toppings because their
>> choice of toppings is better than anyone else can decide.
>
> Does that really matter? Don't tell me you actually care whether
> Domino's calls their slop "artisinal".
>
>
Are you obsessed with me? I'm flattered but I get the feeling you're
not my type.

Cheryl wrote:

> >> And snobbish. I hate the way Dominos pizza advertizes their "artisan
> >> pizza" as being sold as-is and you can't modify toppings because their
> >> choice of toppings is better than anyone else can decide.
> >
> > Does that really matter? Don't tell me you actually care whether
> > Domino's calls their slop "artisinal".
> >
> >
> Are you obsessed with me? I'm flattered but I get the feeling you're
> not my type.

How bizarre. Queen Mary said the same thing before I KFed her.

In case you're serious: No, I am not obsessed with you.

My turn: Why would you entertain such an idea?

"Cheryl" > wrote in message
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> On 8/21/2012 3:19 PM, news wrote:
>> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>
>> Ironically.
>> (I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
>> buzzword that really means "higher prices"!
>>
>>
> And snobbish. I hate the way Dominos pizza advertizes their "artisan
> pizza" as being sold as-is and you can't modify toppings because their
> choice of toppings is better than anyone else can decide.

It's ridiculous how much people charge for pizza toppings.

And the quality isn't even that great. Some mediocre pepperoni.

Maybe I'll buy a pizza and heat it in my oven with my own toppings.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:50:21 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:

>
>"Cheryl" > wrote in message
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>> On 8/21/2012 3:19 PM, news wrote:
>>> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>>
>>> Ironically.
>>> (I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
>>> buzzword that really means "higher prices"!
>>>
Some years ago, 25 -35, there was a resurgence of interest in beer,
bread and cheese making at the individual person(s) level. These
small brewers and bakers paid great attention to detail and went back
to the origins of the beer/bread/cheese to make an individual and note
worthy product. Very little product was made at these local levels
and the product was very individual and in most cases excellent. The
term artisan was coined to indicate that the beer or bread or cheese
came from such an establishment. Often the results of the old
fashioned approach were rustic looking. Of course, corporate America
wasn't about to miss such a marketing buzz word. And so children, it
came to pass that everything has been dubbed "artisan."
Janet US

On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 08:13:50 -0600, Janet Bostwick
> wrote:

> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 15:50:21 -0400, "Christopher M."
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Cheryl" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On 8/21/2012 3:19 PM, news wrote:
> >>> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
> >>>
> >>> Ironically.
> >>> (I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
> >>> buzzword that really means "higher prices"!
> >>>
> Some years ago, 25 -35, there was a resurgence of interest in beer,
> bread and cheese making at the individual person(s) level. These
> small brewers and bakers paid great attention to detail and went back
> to the origins of the beer/bread/cheese to make an individual and note
> worthy product. Very little product was made at these local levels
> and the product was very individual and in most cases excellent. The
> term artisan was coined to indicate that the beer or bread or cheese
> came from such an establishment. Often the results of the old
> fashioned approach were rustic looking. Of course, corporate America
> wasn't about to miss such a marketing buzz word. And so children, it
> came to pass that everything has been dubbed "artisan."
> Janet US

I equate "artisan" with hand made... but as you said, the term has
been hijacked by corporate America.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

On 8/21/2012 3:19 PM, news wrote:
> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
> ...
>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>
> Ironically.
> (I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
> buzzword that really means "higher prices"!
>
>
That's so true! It's just bread with some added crap. Herbs, seeds,
anything to justify raising the price. It's like when they serve
hamburgers at "the club" on kaiser rolls. Because poppy seeds on the
bun make the burger so much better.

Jill

On 8/27/2012 9:46 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 8/21/2012 3:19 PM, news wrote:
>> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>
>> Ironically.
>> (I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
>> buzzword that really means "higher prices"!
>>
>>
> That's so true! It's just bread with some added crap. Herbs, seeds,
> anything to justify raising the price. It's like when they serve
> hamburgers at "the club" on kaiser rolls. Because poppy seeds on the
> bun make the burger so much better.
>
> Jill


Depends, some folks could care less about the bread or roll that is used
and some think it is an important component. For example there is a
local family owned sub shop in my town that uses really great rolls from
a local Italian bakery that has a coal fired oven. Even though they use
quality meats etc the roll makes the sandwich. There is no mention of
"artisan" though. This is simply non bigbox folks who know how to make
good food.

Poppy seeds certainly won't help but a quality kaiser roll sure makes a
good burger even better.

On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 11:11:18 -0400, George >
wrote:
snip
>Poppy seeds certainly won't help but a quality kaiser roll sure makes a
>good burger even better.

I'm with you. I really hate those sweet, soft hamburger buns. Give
me a Kaiser-type roll any day.
Janet US

On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 09:46:32 -0400, jmcquown >
wrote:

> It's like when they serve
> hamburgers at "the club" on kaiser rolls. Because poppy seeds on the
> bun make the burger so much better.

Poppy seeds? I thought Kaiser rolls were thicker and firmer than
regular hamburger buns and have some sort of a fancy twist on the top
to pretty them up.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kaisersemmel-.jpg

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

To me artisan bread is bread with a hard crust. I love the sliced
oatmeal bread I buy every so often. I also like from Target the 3 cheese
semolina bread. If you can play knock knock on the crust...

Andy wrote:

> Artisan is such an oversold word. When Burger King uses it, there's no
> hope left in the world.

Yeah, "artisan" bread from a factory. As if!

On 8/20/2012 10:58 AM, Andy wrote:
> "Christopher M." > wrote:
>
>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>
>>
>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
>
>
> Artisan is such an oversold word. When Burger King uses it, there's no
> hope left in the world.
>
> Pepperidge Farm sold frozen "artisan" bread loaves in a couple
> "flavors." Freezer to oven-baked to plate and then buttered to death. My
> favorite was rosemary.
>
> My easy from scratch "artisan bread" was always popovers. I could
> casually sit down and down 1/2 dozen of them in a sitting, dripping in
> butter... in the same fat old days!
>
> Nowadays I fancy myself more a toasted English muffin man!
>
> My picture is in the dictionary there!
>
> Andy
> Muffin NOT a Puffin Man!
>

It's a hot marketing term right now. I associative it more with
woodworking than but cooking most folks find it appealing. I'm just
waiting for some Artisan Angus beef. That's gonna be tasty!

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Christopher M." > wrote:
>
>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>
>>
>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
>
>
> Artisan is such an oversold word. When Burger King uses it, there's no
> hope left in the world.

I remember when Burger King started making their croissandwiches with
croissant shaped rolls instead of croissants. Sad.

> Pepperidge Farm sold frozen "artisan" bread loaves in a couple
> "flavors." Freezer to oven-baked to plate and then buttered to death. My
> favorite was rosemary.

Rosemary has a nice kick.

> My easy from scratch "artisan bread" was always popovers. I could
> casually sit down and down 1/2 dozen of them in a sitting, dripping in
> butter... in the same fat old days!

I've only had soggy popovers.

> Nowadays I fancy myself more a toasted English muffin man!

Me as well. I also like a good crumpet, or something that can soak up
butter.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On 20/08/2012 6:13 PM, l, not -l wrote:
> Artisan bread is another of those terms that has become so devalued as to be
> meaningless. Just as most who use the word awesome have no clue about what
> is truly awesome, most who talk about artisan bread have never seen or
> tasted it.
>

Yep. There are now "artisan" bread franchises. I am thinking that the
fact that they are a franchise and therefore following franchise recipes
or, more likely, using franchise ingredient mixes, they are not really
franchises.

My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not make
regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of whole grain
breads with olives, leek, potato etc. I confess that I don't buy their
breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a waste of good (and
expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally have lunch there and
their sandwiches are made with their bread, and they are incredible.

On Aug 20, 3:29*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 20/08/2012 6:13 PM, l, not -l wrote:
>
> > Artisan bread is another of those terms that has become so devalued as to be
> > meaningless. *Just as most who use the word awesome have no clue about what
> > is truly awesome, most who talk about artisan bread have never seen or
> > tasted it.
>
> Yep. There are now "artisan" bread franchises. I am thinking that the
> fact that they are a franchise and therefore following franchise recipes
> or, more likely, using franchise ingredient mixes, they are not really
> franchises.
>
> My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not make
> regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of whole grain
> breads with olives, leek, potato etc. *I confess that I don't buy their
> breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a waste of good (and
> expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally have lunch there and
> their sandwiches are made with their bread, and they are incredible.

Seems as if you buy a sandwich...you're buying their bread.....

On 20/08/2012 6:35 PM, Chemo wrote:

>> My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not make
>> regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of whole grain
>> breads with olives, leek, potato etc. I confess that I don't buy their
>> breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a waste of good (and
>> expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally have lunch there and
>> their sandwiches are made with their bread, and they are incredible.
>
> Seems as if you buy a sandwich...you're buying their bread.....
>


Yes. I am buying a sandwich, and there are two pieces of bead in the
sandwich. The bread is wonderful. I do not buy loaves of it because it
would be a waste, especially at $5-6 per loaf.


We have another good bakery in town where I get whole wheat and while
grain breads. I have been encouraging my brother to buy his bread there
but he says it is too expensive. It is about twice as much as he pays
for bread from the local supermarket bakery. The real bakery bread
loaves are bigger and weigh about twice as much, and they are so much
better.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 20/08/2012 6:35 PM, Chemo wrote:
>
>>> My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not
>>> make regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of
>>> whole grain breads with olives, leek, potato etc. I confess that I
>>> don't buy their breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a
>>> waste of good (and expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally
>>> have lunch there and their sandwiches are made with their bread,
>>> and they are incredible.
>>
>> Seems as if you buy a sandwich...you're buying their bread.....
>>
>
>
> Yes. I am buying a sandwich, and there are two pieces of bead in the
> sandwich. The bread is wonderful. I do not buy loaves of it because it
> would be a waste, especially at $5-6 per loaf.
>
>
> We have another good bakery in town where I get whole wheat and while
> grain breads. I have been encouraging my brother to buy his bread
> there but he says it is too expensive. It is about twice as much as
> he pays for bread from the local supermarket bakery. The real bakery
> bread loaves are bigger and weigh about twice as much, and they are
> so much better.

We found some excellent whole wheat bread that sells for about $3.50 at
Costco. It's over $5.00 elsewhere. The loaves are smaller than a cheap
bread loaf but it is fine for us when there are just two of us in the house.
We don't always finish the loaf so I freeze the extra and make stuffing with
it about once a month. But now that my husband is home we go through two
loaves in a week, easily. He is a big sandwich eater. Daughter and I are
not.