Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Aug 20, 1:25*pm, "Christopher M." > wrote:
> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

Raw? Not a fan of dough myself...

Christopher M. wrote:

> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?

Raw bread? How bizarre.

I can share one a tip with you: Shelley uses it twice, but only the
second time involves eating.

I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.

Andy wrote:

> Artisan is such an oversold word. When Burger King uses it, there's no
> hope left in the world.

Yeah, "artisan" bread from a factory. As if!

On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:25:01 -0400, "Christopher M."
> wrote:

>Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>
>
>W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
Yes.
Janet US

"Christopher M." > wrote in message
...
> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?

Yes.

On Aug 20, 2:59*pm, "Julie Bove" > wrote:
> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
> > Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>
> Yes.

You eat bread dough?

On 8/20/2012 4:25 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
>
Just what is "artisan bread"? Must it be made by a small single bakery
or perhaps a specialist chain like Great Harvest (as I mentioned a day
or so ago)?

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

On 8/20/2012 10:58 AM, Andy wrote:
> "Christopher M." > wrote:
>
>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>
>>
>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
>
>
> Artisan is such an oversold word. When Burger King uses it, there's no
> hope left in the world.
>
> Pepperidge Farm sold frozen "artisan" bread loaves in a couple
> "flavors." Freezer to oven-baked to plate and then buttered to death. My
> favorite was rosemary.
>
> My easy from scratch "artisan bread" was always popovers. I could
> casually sit down and down 1/2 dozen of them in a sitting, dripping in
> butter... in the same fat old days!
>
> Nowadays I fancy myself more a toasted English muffin man!
>
> My picture is in the dictionary there!
>
> Andy
> Muffin NOT a Puffin Man!
>

It's a hot marketing term right now. I associative it more with
woodworking than but cooking most folks find it appealing. I'm just
waiting for some Artisan Angus beef. That's gonna be tasty!

On 20/08/2012 6:13 PM, l, not -l wrote:
> Artisan bread is another of those terms that has become so devalued as to be
> meaningless. Just as most who use the word awesome have no clue about what
> is truly awesome, most who talk about artisan bread have never seen or
> tasted it.
>

Yep. There are now "artisan" bread franchises. I am thinking that the
fact that they are a franchise and therefore following franchise recipes
or, more likely, using franchise ingredient mixes, they are not really
franchises.

My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not make
regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of whole grain
breads with olives, leek, potato etc. I confess that I don't buy their
breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a waste of good (and
expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally have lunch there and
their sandwiches are made with their bread, and they are incredible.

On Aug 20, 3:29*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 20/08/2012 6:13 PM, l, not -l wrote:
>
> > Artisan bread is another of those terms that has become so devalued as to be
> > meaningless. *Just as most who use the word awesome have no clue about what
> > is truly awesome, most who talk about artisan bread have never seen or
> > tasted it.
>
> Yep. There are now "artisan" bread franchises. I am thinking that the
> fact that they are a franchise and therefore following franchise recipes
> or, more likely, using franchise ingredient mixes, they are not really
> franchises.
>
> My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not make
> regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of whole grain
> breads with olives, leek, potato etc. *I confess that I don't buy their
> breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a waste of good (and
> expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally have lunch there and
> their sandwiches are made with their bread, and they are incredible.

Seems as if you buy a sandwich...you're buying their bread.....

On 20/08/2012 6:35 PM, Chemo wrote:

>> My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not make
>> regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of whole grain
>> breads with olives, leek, potato etc. I confess that I don't buy their
>> breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a waste of good (and
>> expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally have lunch there and
>> their sandwiches are made with their bread, and they are incredible.
>
> Seems as if you buy a sandwich...you're buying their bread.....
>


Yes. I am buying a sandwich, and there are two pieces of bead in the
sandwich. The bread is wonderful. I do not buy loaves of it because it
would be a waste, especially at $5-6 per loaf.


We have another good bakery in town where I get whole wheat and while
grain breads. I have been encouraging my brother to buy his bread there
but he says it is too expensive. It is about twice as much as he pays
for bread from the local supermarket bakery. The real bakery bread
loaves are bigger and weigh about twice as much, and they are so much
better.

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 20/08/2012 6:35 PM, Chemo wrote:
>
>>> My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not
>>> make regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of
>>> whole grain breads with olives, leek, potato etc. I confess that I
>>> don't buy their breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a
>>> waste of good (and expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally
>>> have lunch there and their sandwiches are made with their bread,
>>> and they are incredible.
>>
>> Seems as if you buy a sandwich...you're buying their bread.....
>>
>
>
> Yes. I am buying a sandwich, and there are two pieces of bead in the
> sandwich. The bread is wonderful. I do not buy loaves of it because it
> would be a waste, especially at $5-6 per loaf.
>
>
> We have another good bakery in town where I get whole wheat and while
> grain breads. I have been encouraging my brother to buy his bread
> there but he says it is too expensive. It is about twice as much as
> he pays for bread from the local supermarket bakery. The real bakery
> bread loaves are bigger and weigh about twice as much, and they are
> so much better.

We found some excellent whole wheat bread that sells for about $3.50 at
Costco. It's over $5.00 elsewhere. The loaves are smaller than a cheap
bread loaf but it is fine for us when there are just two of us in the house.
We don't always finish the loaf so I freeze the extra and make stuffing with
it about once a month. But now that my husband is home we go through two
loaves in a week, easily. He is a big sandwich eater. Daughter and I are
not.

On Aug 20, 3:46*pm, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 20/08/2012 6:35 PM, Chemo wrote:
>
> >> My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not make
> >> regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of whole grain
> >> breads with olives, leek, potato etc. *I confess that I don't buy their
> >> breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a waste of good (and
> >> expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally have lunch there and
> >> their sandwiches are made with their bread, and they are incredible.
>
> > Seems as if you buy a sandwich...you're buying their bread.....
>
> Yes. I am buying a sandwich, and there are two pieces of bead in the
> sandwich. The bread is wonderful. I do not buy loaves of it because it
> would be a waste, especially at $5-6 per loaf.
>
> We have another good bakery in town where I get whole wheat and while
> grain breads. I have been encouraging my brother to buy his bread there
> but he says it is too expensive. It is about twice as much as he pays
> for bread from the local supermarket bakery. *The real bakery bread
> loaves are bigger and weigh about twice as much, and they are so much
> better.

I was just kidding with ya!

"Andy" > wrote in message ...
> "Christopher M." > wrote:
>
>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>
>>
>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
>
>
> Artisan is such an oversold word. When Burger King uses it, there's no
> hope left in the world.

I remember when Burger King started making their croissandwiches with
croissant shaped rolls instead of croissants. Sad.

> Pepperidge Farm sold frozen "artisan" bread loaves in a couple
> "flavors." Freezer to oven-baked to plate and then buttered to death. My
> favorite was rosemary.

Rosemary has a nice kick.

> My easy from scratch "artisan bread" was always popovers. I could
> casually sit down and down 1/2 dozen of them in a sitting, dripping in
> butter... in the same fat old days!

I've only had soggy popovers.

> Nowadays I fancy myself more a toasted English muffin man!

Me as well. I also like a good crumpet, or something that can soak up
butter.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"Kalmia" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.

There's the rub.

Thank you.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"Janet Bostwick" > wrote in message
...
> On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 16:25:01 -0400, "Christopher M."
> > wrote:
>
>>Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>
>>
>>W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>>
> Yes.
> Janet US

I feel kind of silly. I usually just eat it untoasted.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"l, not -l" > wrote in message
...
> <snip> Just as most who use the word awesome have no clue about what
> is truly awesome, most who talk about artisan bread have never seen or
> tasted it.

Sounds like a famous quote.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 20/08/2012 6:35 PM, Chemo wrote:
>>
>>>> My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not
>>>> make regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of
>>>> whole grain breads with olives, leek, potato etc. I confess that I
>>>> don't buy their breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a
>>>> waste of good (and expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally
>>>> have lunch there and their sandwiches are made with their bread,
>>>> and they are incredible.
>>>
>>> Seems as if you buy a sandwich...you're buying their bread.....
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes. I am buying a sandwich, and there are two pieces of bead in the
>> sandwich. The bread is wonderful. I do not buy loaves of it because it
>> would be a waste, especially at $5-6 per loaf.
>>
>>
>> We have another good bakery in town where I get whole wheat and while
>> grain breads. I have been encouraging my brother to buy his bread
>> there but he says it is too expensive. It is about twice as much as
>> he pays for bread from the local supermarket bakery. The real bakery
>> bread loaves are bigger and weigh about twice as much, and they are
>> so much better.
>
> We found some excellent whole wheat bread that sells for about $3.50 at
> Costco. It's over $5.00 elsewhere. The loaves are smaller than a cheap
> bread loaf but it is fine for us when there are just two of us in the
> house. We don't always finish the loaf so I freeze the extra and make
> stuffing with it about once a month. But now that my husband is home we
> go through two loaves in a week, easily. He is a big sandwich eater.
> Daughter and I are not.

Homemade stuffing sounds delicious.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

On Monday, August 20, 2012 6:13:40 PM UTC-4, l, not -l wrote:
> Artisan bread is another of those terms that has become so devalued as to be
>
> meaningless. Just as most who use the word awesome have no clue about what
>
> is truly awesome, most who talk about artisan bread have never seen or
>
> tasted it.

Yuh kin add 'paranoid', 'couture' and 'psychotic' to that list too. Often, one hears of 'artesian' bread -- ha.


>
> --
>
>
>
> Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

On Aug 20, 5:04*pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.

This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. I couldn't find the actual strip
online.

Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
me?

Lucy: Here you are.

Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!

wrote:
> On Aug 20, 5:04 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.
>
> This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. I couldn't find the actual strip
> online.
>
> Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
> me?
>
> Lucy: Here you are.
>
> Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
> singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!

They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.

I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

Most supermarket cookies totally suck. You'd think they'd have a decent way of making a cookie. Not yet.

Chemo wrote:
>
>My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not make
>regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of whole grain
>breads with olives, leek, potato etc. *

White or whole wheat can be artisan, in fact most are white bread.
Any machine formed bread can contain those ingredients. The thing
that makes bread artisan is that it's hand formed, typically free form
but can also be baked in some sort of pan... the typical pizza is
artisan bread.

On Aug 20, 4:59*pm, "Christopher M." > wrote:
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>
> ...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Dave Smith wrote:
> >> On 20/08/2012 6:35 PM, Chemo wrote:
>
> >>>> My corner bakery makes a variety on interesting breads. They do not
> >>>> make regular white bread or whole wheat. They have a variety of
> >>>> whole grain breads with olives, leek, potato etc. *I confess that I
> >>>> don't buy their breads. I don't eat much bread, so it would be a
> >>>> waste of good (and expensive) bread for me, but I do occasionally
> >>>> have lunch there and their sandwiches are made with their bread,
> >>>> and they are incredible.
>
> >>> Seems as if you buy a sandwich...you're buying their bread.....
>
> >> Yes. I am buying a sandwich, and there are two pieces of bead in the
> >> sandwich. The bread is wonderful. I do not buy loaves of it because it
> >> would be a waste, especially at $5-6 per loaf.
>
> >> We have another good bakery in town where I get whole wheat and while
> >> grain breads. I have been encouraging my brother to buy his bread
> >> there but he says it is too expensive. It is about twice as much as
> >> he pays for bread from the local supermarket bakery. *The real bakery
> >> bread loaves are bigger and weigh about twice as much, and they are
> >> so much better.
>
> > We found some excellent whole wheat bread that sells for about $3.50 at
> > Costco. *It's over $5.00 elsewhere. *The loaves are smaller than a cheap
> > bread loaf but it is fine for us when there are just two of us in the
> > house. We don't always finish the loaf so I freeze the extra and make
> > stuffing with it about once a month. *But now that my husband is home we
> > go through two loaves in a week, easily. *He is a big sandwich eater.
> > Daughter and I are not.
>
> Homemade stuffing sounds delicious.
>
> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

What? you've never had homemade stuffing????????

On 21/08/2012 2:45 PM, Chemo wrote:
go through two loaves in a week, easily. He is a big sandwich eater.
>>> Daughter and I are not.
>>
>> Homemade stuffing sounds delicious.
>>
>> W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
>
> What? you've never had homemade stuffing????????
>


I have only had the commercial stuff once. Yech. What a poor substitute
for home made that stuff is.

On Aug 21, 11:49*am, Dave Smith > wrote:
> On 21/08/2012 2:45 PM, Chemo wrote:
> * go through two loaves in a week, easily. *He is a big sandwich eater.

Chemo wrote:

> > >> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.
> >
> > > There's the rub.
> >
> > You put rub on raw toast?
>
> He rubs himself with the bread....

Cue Sheldon to make the obligatory foreskin joke....

"Christopher M." > wrote in message
...
> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?

Ironically.
(I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
buzzword that really means "higher prices"!

On 8/21/2012 4:37 PM, sf wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:19:51 -0400, "news" > wrote:
>
>>
>> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>
>> Ironically.
>> (I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
>> buzzword that really means "higher prices"!
>>
>
> I doubt he knows what artisan means.
>
Actually, a number of commercial sliced breads produce perfectly
acceptable toast, even if I would not eat the bread as bought.

--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)

Extraneous "not" in Reply To.

"Christopher M." wrote:
>
> wrote:
> > On Aug 20, 5:04 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> >> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.
> >
> > This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. I couldn't find the actual strip
> > online.
> >
> > Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
> > me?
> >
> > Lucy: Here you are.
> >
> > Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
> > singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!
>
> They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.
>
> I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.

I think I can honestly say that I've never touched anything with a ten foot
pole.

G.

On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:54:32 -0400, James Silverton
> wrote:

> On 8/21/2012 4:37 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:19:51 -0400, "news" > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
> >>
> >> Ironically.
> >> (I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
> >> buzzword that really means "higher prices"!
> >>
> >
> > I doubt he knows what artisan means.
> >
> Actually, a number of commercial sliced breads produce perfectly
> acceptable toast, even if I would not eat the bread as bought.

When in doubt, toast it!

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Gary wrote:

> > They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.
> >
> > I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.
>
> I think I can honestly say that I've never touched anything with a ten foot
> pole.

Of course you haven't. That's why your crew sends American jobs
overseas.

On Aug 21, 2:14*pm, Gary > wrote:
> "Christopher M." wrote:
>
> > wrote:
> > > On Aug 20, 5:04 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
> > >> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.
>
> > > This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. *I couldn't find the actual strip
> > > online.
>
> > > Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
> > > me?
>
> > > Lucy: Here you are.
>
> > > Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
> > > singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!
>
> > They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.
>
> > I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.
>
> I think I can honestly say that I've never touched anything with a ten foot
> pole.
>
> G.

I've found a 9 footer works just fine.

"James Silverton" > wrote in message
...
> On 8/21/2012 4:37 PM, sf wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:19:51 -0400, "news" > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Christopher M." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Do you eat it raw? Or do you toast it? Do you use it in recipes?
>>>
>>> Ironically.
>>> (I hate the word "artisan" when applied to food! Ugh! It's a marketing
>>> buzzword that really means "higher prices"!
>>>
>>
>> I doubt he knows what artisan means.
>>
> Actually, a number of commercial sliced breads produce perfectly
> acceptable toast, even if I would not eat the bread as bought.

I agree.

However, you can roll Wonder bread up into a ball.


W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)

To me artisan bread is bread with a hard crust. I love the sliced
oatmeal bread I buy every so often. I also like from Target the 3 cheese
semolina bread. If you can play knock knock on the crust...

On 8/20/2012 10:49 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
> wrote:
>> On Aug 20, 5:04 pm, Kalmia > wrote:
>>> I think you mean untoasted by 'raw'.
>>
>> This is from an old Peanuts cartoon. I couldn't find the actual strip
>> online.
>>
>> Linus: You gonna make some toast? How about putting in a slice for
>> me?
>>
>> Lucy: Here you are.
>>
>> Linus: Thank you very much. Hey! This is too light! It's hardly
>> singed! Surely you don't expect me to eat raw toast!
>
> They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.
>
> I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole.

I like them like that!

On 8/20/2012 7:58 PM, Christopher M. wrote:
> "l, not -l" > wrote in message
> ...
>> <snip> Just as most who use the word awesome have no clue about what
>> is truly awesome, most who talk about artisan bread have never seen or
>> tasted it.
>
> Sounds like a famous quote.
>

My dad once used the word awful in a sort of speech and explained why he
used it in the context in which he did. He said the origin of the word
is "full of awe" so that isn't a bad thing. It made people think.
Because when he said what he referred to that was full of awe as awful,
people didn't get it. He was an amazing man.

Cheryl wrote:

> > They sell some pretty raw sugar cookies at the supermarket.

> I like them like that!

Well, you can use your heat vision to finish baking them. The rest of
us have to use an oven.