Ranaee wrote:

>We never buy any thing _but_ real maple
> syrup. Grade B. Our children have
> rarely had anything but real maple
> syrup. I think the flavor is so superior, it
> is worth the expense. It has a smokey
> taste that we like. Kind of like coffee.
> Not to mention not having any corn
> syrup in it. If I want corn, I'll eat some
> corn.. I get it Trader Joes, because
> that's the cheapest I can find it. It is
> expensive, but we don't use it often
> enough that I worry about the expense.
> One bottle lasts our family of nine over
> two months. And we do keep it in the
> refrigerator.

Gee, I'm learning all kinds of things here...I didn't realize syrup was
graded?! Interesting. That may be why I don't care for the pure stuff,
as the only thing I want to taste smoky, is smoked fish (yum) as I like
a stronger more "mapley" flavor, like Log Cabin, and I also use Mrs.
Butterworth's occasionally. I buy maple syrup for recipes that call for
it, but for things, such as pancakes and waffles, I reach for the good
ol' Log Cabin, which is now in bottles. Anybody remember when it
actually came in a tin, shaped like a log cabin, or am I giving my age
away?! :-)

Judy

On Sep 24, 1:18*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
> Ranaee wrote:
> >We never buy any thing _but_ real maple
> > syrup. Grade B. Our children have
> > rarely had anything but real maple
> > syrup. I think the flavor is so superior, it
> > is worth the expense. It has a smokey
> > taste that we like. Kind of like coffee.
> > Not to mention not having any corn
> > syrup in it. If I want corn, I'll eat some
> > corn.. I get it Trader Joes, because
> > that's the cheapest I can find it. It is
> > expensive, but we don't use it often
> > enough that I worry about the expense.
> > One bottle lasts our family of nine over
> > two months. And we do keep it in the
> > refrigerator.'s
>
> Gee, I'm learning all kinds of things here...I didn't realize syrup was
> graded?! Interesting. That may be why I don't care for the pure stuff,
> as the only thing I want to taste smoky, is smoked fish (yum) as I like
> a stronger more "mapley" flavor, like Log Cabin, and I also use Mrs.
> Butterworth's occasionally. I buy maple syrup for recipes that call for
> it, but for things, such as pancakes and waffles, I reach for the good
> ol' Log Cabin, which is now in bottles. Anybody remember when it
> actually came in a tin, shaped like a log cabin, or am I giving my age
> away?! :-)
>
> Judy

Log Cabin uses artificial maple flavor, I'll bet! Yeah, my mom bought
it and that's what I ate growing up, but then I discovered real maple
syrup! No comparison!

John Kuthe...

On Sep 24, 9:31*pm, John Kuthe > wrote:
> On Sep 24, 1:18*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Ranaee wrote:
> > >We never buy any thing _but_ real maple
> > > syrup. Grade B. Our children have
> > > rarely had anything but real maple
> > > syrup. I think the flavor is so superior, it
> > > is worth the expense. It has a smokey
> > > taste that we like. Kind of like coffee.
> > > Not to mention not having any corn
> > > syrup in it. If I want corn, I'll eat some
> > > corn.. I get it Trader Joes, because
> > > that's the cheapest I can find it. It is
> > > expensive, but we don't use it often
> > > enough that I worry about the expense.
> > > One bottle lasts our family of nine over
> > > two months. And we do keep it in the
> > > refrigerator.'s
>
> > Gee, I'm learning all kinds of things here...I didn't realize syrup was
> > graded?! Interesting. That may be why I don't care for the pure stuff,
> > as the only thing I want to taste smoky, is smoked fish (yum) as I like
> > a stronger more "mapley" flavor, like Log Cabin, and I also use Mrs.
> > Butterworth's occasionally. I buy maple syrup for recipes that call for
> > it, but for things, such as pancakes and waffles, I reach for the good
> > ol' Log Cabin, which is now in bottles. Anybody remember when it
> > actually came in a tin, shaped like a log cabin, or am I giving my age
> > away?! :-)
>
> > Judy
>
> Log Cabin uses artificial maple flavor, I'll bet! Yeah, my mom bought
> it and that's what I ate growing up, but then I discovered real maple
> syrup! No comparison!
>
> John Kuthe...

As I remember it, Log Cabin had 5% maple syrup when it was in those
cans, then it went down to 3%, and eventually, none.That's called
progress. Food chemists got better and better at synthesizing "almost"
flavors.

Jerry
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rights of the vilest and most abhorrent are protected."
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:31:03 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> wrote:

>On Sep 24, 1:18*pm, (Judy Haffner) wrote:
>>
>> Gee, I'm learning all kinds of things here...I didn't realize syrup was
>> graded?! Interesting. That may be why I don't care for the pure stuff,
>> as the only thing I want to taste smoky, is smoked fish (yum) as I like
>> a stronger more "mapley" flavor, like Log Cabin, and I also use Mrs.
>> Butterworth's occasionally. I buy maple syrup for recipes that call for
>> it, but for things, such as pancakes and waffles, I reach for the good
>> ol' Log Cabin, which is now in bottles. Anybody remember when it
>> actually came in a tin, shaped like a log cabin, or am I giving my age
>> away?! :-)
>
>Log Cabin uses artificial maple flavor, I'll bet! Yeah, my mom bought
>it and that's what I ate growing up, but then I discovered real maple
>syrup! No comparison!

Sure, real syrup costs ten times as much, what would it be expected
pinheads would say about the emporers new clothes. Nowadays, through
the magic of modern chemistry, artificial maple flavor can't be
distinguished from natural maple flavor... anyone claims thay can
can't tell nude from clothed

Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered ignorantly:

> Nowadays, through the magic of modern chemistry, artificial maple flavor
> can't be distinguished from natural maple flavor

Just more made-up bullshit from the village idiot.

Bob

In article m>,
"Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:

> Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered ignorantly:
>
> > Nowadays, through the magic of modern chemistry, artificial maple flavor
> > can't be distinguished from natural maple flavor
>
> Just more made-up bullshit from the village idiot.

I don't know, Bob. When you have as serious a case of TIAD as he does,
maybe he really can't tell the difference. Just look at all the stuff
he's posted over the years. No sense buying sausage at the butcher shop
for more than a dollar a pound, Hillshire Farms is just as good! Vienna
sausage from a can? Spam?

--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:12:00 -0700, Dan Abel > wrote:

> When you have as serious a case of TIAD as he does,
> maybe he really can't tell the difference.

And to think he's the one who coined that - at least I'd never heard
it before he started throwing it at people. I guess that's a good
example of his nastiness coming back to bite him in the butt. What
goes around comes around.

--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:43:12 -0700, "Bob Terwilliger"
> wrote:

>Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered ignorantly:
>
>> Nowadays, through the magic of modern chemistry, artificial maple flavor
>> can't be distinguished from natural maple flavor
>
>Just more made-up bullshit from the village idiot.
>
>Bob BIAD

On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:12:00 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:

> In article m>,
> "Bob Terwilliger" > wrote:
>
>> Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered ignorantly:
>>
>>> Nowadays, through the magic of modern chemistry, artificial maple flavor
>>> can't be distinguished from natural maple flavor
>>
>> Just more made-up bullshit from the village idiot.
>
> I don't know, Bob. When you have as serious a case of TIAD as he does,
> maybe he really can't tell the difference. Just look at all the stuff
> he's posted over the years. No sense buying sausage at the butcher shop
> for more than a dollar a pound, Hillshire Farms is just as good! Vienna
> sausage from a can? Spam?

....and a spam reuben is better than a corned beef reuben.

your pal,
blake

(Judy Haffner) wrote in
:

> Gee, I'm learning all kinds of things here...I didn't realize
> syrup was graded?! Interesting.

US maple syrup is graded A or B.

Maple syrup in Canada has 4 basic grades and some sub-grades, like
Extra Light AA (our preference).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_syrup#Grades

The B to D grades are for tourists.

--

"War is the terrorism of the rich and powerful and
terrorism is the war of the poor and powerless."

Peter Ustinov

"Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
...
> (Judy Haffner) wrote in
> :
>
>> Gee, I'm learning all kinds of things here...I didn't realize
>> syrup was graded?! Interesting.
>
> US maple syrup is graded A or B.
>
> Maple syrup in Canada has 4 basic grades and some sub-grades, like
> Extra Light AA (our preference).
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_syrup#Grades

You left out important information on the US grades
The United States uses different grading standards. Maple syrup is divided
into two major grades: Grade A and Grade B. Grade A is further broken down
into three sub-grades: Light Amber (sometimes known as Fancy), Medium Amber,
and Dark Amber.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in
:

> "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
> ...
>> (Judy Haffner) wrote in
>> :
>>
>>> Gee, I'm learning all kinds of things here...I didn't
>>> realize syrup was graded?! Interesting.
>>
>> US maple syrup is graded A or B.
>>
>> Maple syrup in Canada has 4 basic grades and some sub-grades,
>> like Extra Light AA (our preference).
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_syrup#Grades
>
> You left out important information on the US grades

I did? Was I obliged to clarify that? I don't think so.

> The United States uses different grading standards. Maple
> syrup is divided into two major grades: Grade A and Grade B.
> Grade A is further broken down into three sub-grades: Light
> Amber (sometimes known as Fancy), Medium Amber, and Dark
> Amber.

So, two grades, A and B, like I said.

--

"War is the terrorism of the rich and powerful and
terrorism is the war of the poor and powerless."

Peter Ustinov

"Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
...
> "Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in
> :
>
>> "Michel Boucher" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> (Judy Haffner) wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>>> Gee, I'm learning all kinds of things here...I didn't
>>>> realize syrup was graded?! Interesting.
>>>
>>> US maple syrup is graded A or B.
>>>
>>> Maple syrup in Canada has 4 basic grades and some sub-grades,
>>> like Extra Light AA (our preference).
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_syrup#Grades
>>
>> You left out important information on the US grades
>
> I did? Was I obliged to clarify that? I don't think so.
>
>> The United States uses different grading standards. Maple
>> syrup is divided into two major grades: Grade A and Grade B.
>> Grade A is further broken down into three sub-grades: Light
>> Amber (sometimes known as Fancy), Medium Amber, and Dark
>> Amber.
>
> So, two grades, A and B, like I said.
>
But you gave the impression that was all. No mention of sub grades. You
did not give enough information for anyone to draw a proper conclusion.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in
:

>>> You left out important information on the US grades
>>
>> I did? Was I obliged to clarify that? I don't think so.
>>
>>> The United States uses different grading standards. Maple
>>> syrup is divided into two major grades: Grade A and Grade B.
>>> Grade A is further broken down into three sub-grades: Light
>>> Amber (sometimes known as Fancy), Medium Amber, and Dark
>>> Amber.
>>
>> So, two grades, A and B, like I said.
>
> But you gave the impression that was all. No mention of sub
> grades. You did not give enough information for anyone to
> draw a proper conclusion.

I don't see how that's my problem. I didn't describe the sub-
grades of Canadian syrup either. I merely pointed out the US has
two grades while Canada (the much larger producer of maple syrup)
has four. Anyone interested can simply follow the link I provided
and read up on it.

--

"War is the terrorism of the rich and powerful and
terrorism is the war of the poor and powerless."

Peter Ustinov

On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:58:06 -0500, Michel Boucher
> wrote:

> Actually, as I heard it, your grades A and B correspond to our C
> and D.

I connected and looked up the subject... even here in the US, grading
is more complicated than we think.

Here's what Wikipedia says:

Grades
US Syrup grades. Left to right: Fancy, Grade A Medium Amber, Grade A
Dark Amber, Grade B

In Canada, maple syrup is classified as one of three grades, each with
several colour classes. These range from Canada #1, including Extra
Light (sometimes known as AA), Light (A), and Medium (B); #2 Amber
(C); and finally #3 Dark (D).[42] In addition, Canada #2 Amber may be
labelled Ontario Amber when produced and sold in that province
only.[43] A typical year's yield for a maple syrup producer will be
about 25 to 30 percent of each of the #1 colours, 10 percent #2 Amber,
and 2 percent #3 Dark.[18]

The United States uses different grading standards. Maple syrup is
divided into two major grades: Grade A and Grade B. Grade A is further
broken down into three sub-grades: Light Amber (sometimes known as
Fancy), Medium Amber, and Dark Amber. The Vermont Agency of
Agriculture Food and Markets uses a similar grading system of colour
and is roughly equivalent, especially for lighter syrups.[42] The
Vermont grading system differs from the US system in maintaining a
slightly higher standard of product density (measured on the Baumé
scale). New Hampshire maintains a similar standard, but not a separate
state grading scale. The Vermont-graded product has 0.9 percent more
sugar and less water in its composition than US-graded. A non-table
grade of syrup called commercial, or Grade C, is also produced under
the Vermont system.[44] Vermont inspectors enforce strict syrup
grading regulations, and can fine producers up to US$1000 for
labelling syrup incorrectly.[45]

Extra-Light and Grade A typically have a milder flavour than Grade B,
which is very dark with a sharp maple flavour.[44] The dark grades of
syrup are used primarily for cooking and baking, although some
specialty dark syrups are produced for table use.[46] The
classification of maple syrup in the US depends ultimately on its
translucence. US Grade A "Light Amber" has to be more than 75 percent
translucent, US Grade A "Medium Amber" has to be 60.5 to 74.9 percent
translucent, US Grade A "Dark Amber" has to be 44 to 60.4 percent
translucent, and US Grade B has to be less than 43.9 percent
translucent.[13]



--

You are what you eat, so avoid fruitcake and nuts.

"Michel Boucher" > wrote
>>> A tourist is a tourist. What has language got to do with it?
>>
>> A lot, in Canada.
>
> Not as far as tourists and maple syrup are concerned.
>

True, them Frenchies in Quebec are equally arrogant to everyone not born
there.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in
:

>>> A lot, in Canada.
>>
>> Not as far as tourists and maple syrup are concerned.
>>
>
> True, them Frenchies in Quebec are equally arrogant to
> everyone not born there.

It`s maple syrup, not politics, but I guess to you it is politics.

--
"War is the terrorism of the rich and powerful and
terrorism is the war of the poor and powerless."

Peter Ustinov

On 9/28/2011 9:35 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
> "Ed > wrote in
> :
>
>>>> A lot, in Canada.
>>>
>>> Not as far as tourists and maple syrup are concerned.
>>>
>>
>> True, them Frenchies in Quebec are equally arrogant to
>> everyone not born there.
>
> It`s maple syrup, not politics, but I guess to you it is politics.
>

It isn't politics just someone reporting an accurate observation. No
different than someone stating "it is windy in Chicago" after a visit.

On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:44:08 -0400, George >
wrote:

>On 9/28/2011 9:35 AM, Michel Boucher wrote:
>> "Ed > wrote in
>> :
>>
>>>>> A lot, in Canada.
>>>>
>>>> Not as far as tourists and maple syrup are concerned.
>>>>
>>>
>>> True, them Frenchies in Quebec are equally arrogant to
>>> everyone not born there.
>>
>> It`s maple syrup, not politics, but I guess to you it is politics.
>>
>
>It isn't politics just someone reporting an accurate observation. No
>different than someone stating "it is windy in Chicago" after a visit.

Just for the record- my experience has been the opposite in the
Montreal area. We were welcomed and treated *very* well by anglo
and franco -Quebecois [?]

Maybe because we were there to play hockey?
At any rate, several trips to different parts of Quebec- mostly around
Montreal- were all great experiences for about 100 youth hockey
families all told. [maybe 6 trips over 3-4 years with different teams]

We stayed mostly in the english speaking areas, but a couple of the
rinks were all French & they had high school kids assigned to each
team to translate.

We were never treated as well at any rinks or hotels in the states.

Jim

"Michel Boucher" > wrote
>>
>> True, them Frenchies in Quebec are equally arrogant to
>> everyone not born there.
>
> It`s maple syrup, not politics, but I guess to you it is politics.
>

Has nothing to do with politics. Has lot to do with observation of people
over the years.. Our biggest customer is in Canada (Ontario) and they have
a hart time dealing with the Quebec people. We've had truck drivers from
Quebec and other provinces at the same time and they can't get along with
the French arrogance.

Exceptions apply. I've also been treated very well on visits to Quebec, but
the reputation exist for good reason. Even you comment about low grades of
maple syrup for tourists fits right in.

"Ed Pawlowski" > wrote in
:

> "Michel Boucher" > wrote
>>>
>>> True, them Frenchies in Quebec are equally arrogant to
>>> everyone not born there.
>>
>> It's maple syrup, not politics, but I guess to you it is
>> politics.
>
> Even you
> comment about low grades of maple syrup for tourists fits
> right in.

I'm not a trucker, so this obviously doesn't apply to me. "Me"
comment is an observation, which I've clarified here in the past
and must do so again...*sigh*.

As it happens, the A grade is consumed almost exclusively
locally. Some does make its way to foreign lands as gifts for
Canadians abroad. But we don't hide it. It's on sale in stores
everywhere.

For some reason, tourists, whether French, English, Latvian or
Chinese, unused as they are to eating good maple syrup, prefer
the darker stuff because they *think* it's sweeter. So the lower
grades are preferred by tourists and the highest grade by locals.
It works out well that way.

If the tourists developed a taste for the A grade, we would be in
a bit of a pickle, but so far it has not caused any major
international incidents.

--

If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t
help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus
was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge
that He commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy
without condition, and then admit that we just don’t
want to do it.

Stephen Colbert (via videcormeum)

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 07/10/2011 10:16 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>>
>> Here in New England, I have always thought (and read) that the reverse
>> was true: those in the know got the darkest possible maple syrup.
>>
>
> There are several maple farms near my house. I get the dark. It has a
> much richer flavour.

I think so too.

--
Jean B.

On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 22:26:04 -0400, "Jean B." > wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 07/10/2011 10:16 PM, Jean B. wrote:
>>>
>>> Here in New England, I have always thought (and read) that the reverse
>>> was true: those in the know got the darkest possible maple syrup.
>>>
>>
>> There are several maple farms near my house. I get the dark. It has a
>> much richer flavour.
>
>I think so too.

Anyone who educates themself about the process will realize that the
lighter grades of maple syrup cost far less to produce, yet folks are
willing to pay more for less. Those who insist on buying the lightest
grades really don't like the flavor of maple syrup so would be much
better off buying the imitation maple flavored syrups off the
stupidmarket shelf, they'd save a ton of money.