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I made an almost-vegetarian chili a few weeks ago using lentils for the
base, with a little TVP thrown in. The only thing that kept it from being vegetarian is I added some pork broth. It turned out good enough that I wanted to make it again. I went to the store, and lentils were almost $2 a pound! (it wasn't that long ago that lentils were 39˘ a pound.) Green split peas were only 89˘ so I bought those instead. Will they work for this application, or should I do something else with them? Green lentils cook up gray in color, which was easily overpowered by the brick-red chiles. Split peas cook up a vivid green; I'm not sure how that will work. Also aren't peas a little sweeter than lentils? I may try it anyway. Cook the peas in some canned beef broth that I have in the pantry, then add pureed ancho and New Mexico chilies (and onions, garlic, oregano, and a little cumin and tomatoes.) What do you think? -Bob |
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On Apr 25, 9:30*pm, zxcvbob wrote:
I made an almost-vegetarian chili a few weeks ago using lentils for the base, with a little TVP thrown in. *The only thing that kept it from being vegetarian is I added some pork broth. *It turned out good enough that I wanted to make it again. I went to the store, and lentils were almost $2 a pound! *(it wasn't that long ago that lentils were 39˘ a pound.) *Green split peas were only 89˘ so I bought those instead. *Will they work for this application, or should I do something else with them? *Green lentils cook up gray in color, which was easily overpowered by the brick-red chiles. *Split peas cook up a vivid green; I'm not sure how that will work. *Also aren't peas a little sweeter than lentils? I may try it anyway. *Cook the peas in some canned beef broth that I have in the pantry, then add pureed ancho and New Mexico chilies (and onions, garlic, oregano, and a little cumin and tomatoes.) *What do you think? In my experience lentils are negligibly gassy while the same cannot be said of split peas. You may want to try your favorite degassing technique on the split peas before using them. The other thing is I always cook split peas with a smoked hamhock or similar. The flavors blend so well in my opinion. |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:30:05 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote: I went to the store, and lentils were almost $2 a pound! (it wasn't that long ago that lentils were 39˘ a pound.) Green split peas were only 89˘ so I bought those instead. Will they work for this application, or should I do something else with them? Green lentils cook up gray in color, which was easily overpowered by the brick-red chiles. Split peas cook up a vivid green; I'm not sure how that will work. Also aren't peas a little sweeter than lentils? I think they fall apart easier than lentils. That's why split pea soup is not filled with whole split peas. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 21:41:14 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888
wrote: In my experience lentils are negligibly gassy while the same cannot be said of split peas. You may want to try your favorite degassing technique on the split peas before using them. The other thing is I always cook split peas with a smoked hamhock or similar. The flavors blend so well in my opinion. I'd substitute pinto beans in that chili. Split peas are just wrong. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On 26/04/2011 12:41 AM, spamtrap1888 wrote:
In my experience lentils are negligibly gassy while the same cannot be said of split peas. You may want to try your favorite degassing technique on the split peas before using them. The other thing is I always cook split peas with a smoked hamhock or similar. The flavors blend so well in my opinion. I had made several mediocre attempts at split pea soup using different types of bone in ham. A few month ago I saw smoked ham hocks at the butcher shop and tried that. Wow! That was the missing ingredient. It makes an incredible soup. |
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Dave Smith wrote:
On 26/04/2011 12:41 AM, spamtrap1888 wrote: In my experience lentils are negligibly gassy while the same cannot be said of split peas. You may want to try your favorite degassing technique on the split peas before using them. The other thing is I always cook split peas with a smoked hamhock or similar. The flavors blend so well in my opinion. I had made several mediocre attempts at split pea soup using different types of bone in ham. A few month ago I saw smoked ham hocks at the butcher shop and tried that. Wow! That was the missing ingredient. It makes an incredible soup. Smoked pork neckbones works pretty well too. I think y'all have talked me out of making "chili". I'll just make a pot of pea soup. I have some ham hocks in the freezer... -Bob |
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On 2011-04-26, zxcvbob wrote:
work. Also aren't peas a little sweeter than lentils? That's why you CAN NOT substitute split peas for lentils. Unlike lentils, split peas actually taste GOOD, while lentils taste like ....well, lentils. :P nb |
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On 26/04/2011 10:23 AM, notbob wrote:
On 2011-04-26, wrote: work. Also aren't peas a little sweeter than lentils? That's why you CAN NOT substitute split peas for lentils. Unlike lentils, split peas actually taste GOOD, while lentils taste like ...well, lentils.:P I remember having them years ago, cooked by people who were in tight budgets and who weren't great cooks. I was not impressed. Then I had then in a restaurant in France and I was impressed. I kept meaning to try cooking them and finally got around to it a few weeks ago. Not impressed, |
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On Apr 26, 10:22*am, Dave Smith wrote:
On 26/04/2011 10:23 AM, notbob wrote: On 2011-04-26, *wrote: work. *Also aren't peas a little sweeter than lentils? That's why you CAN NOT substitute split peas for lentils. *Unlike lentils, split peas actually taste GOOD, while lentils taste like ...well, lentils.:P * I remember having them years ago, cooked by people who were in tight budgets and who weren't great cooks. I was not impressed. Then I had then in a restaurant in France and I was impressed. I kept meaning to try cooking them and finally got around to it a few weeks ago. *Not impressed, Petit Salé Aux Lentilles is classic French comfort food. |
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:14:56 -0700, Dan Abel wrote:
In article , sf wrote: I think they fall apart easier than lentils. That's why split pea soup is not filled with whole split peas. Our tap water does not soften legumes very well. Thus, our split pea soup has split peas that look pretty much like they did in the package, unless they are smooshed or whizzed by an immersion blender. I never use an immersion blender on that. I just let it cook a couple more minutes. And are those whole split peas or split whole peas? I am not positive, but I think they come out of the pod already split. Believe it or not, I've actually spent time thinking about it. ![]() can't imagine someone sitting there, splitting individual peas one by one (even in ancient times when labor was cheap), because there was so much more to do in daily life. -- I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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Omelet wrote:
In article , notbob wrote: On 2011-04-26, zxcvbob wrote: work. Also aren't peas a little sweeter than lentils? That's why you CAN NOT substitute split peas for lentils. Unlike lentils, split peas actually taste GOOD, while lentils taste like ...well, lentils. :P nb Speaking of Lentils, there are three different types I have available. The regular brown ones, yellow lentils and some little pink ones about 1/2 normal size. I have sprouted the pink ones for sprouts (and they were quite good) but I've never cooked them into a soup. I love the red ones. They cook faster than the bigger ones. [I've sprouted the bigger green and brown ones-- but never the pink ones. I'll have to give them a try. If you like saffron at all-- give this a try; http://www.food.com/recipe/winter-sq...il-stew-217244 It is the original cornucopia of flavors and textures. I've played with the squash variety, but never the lentils. Jim [I'm with Bob, above, who says not to sub them for peas--- but I'm *not* with *not* bob, who doesn't think lentils taste good.g] |
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:15:51 -0500, Omelet
wrote: snip Speaking of Lentils, there are three different types I have available. The regular brown ones, yellow lentils and some little pink ones about 1/2 normal size. I have sprouted the pink ones for sprouts (and they were quite good) but I've never cooked them into a soup. Anyone ever tried these? -- Black ones have also shown up in my stores this last year. They are a little smaller and taste similar to the others. Janet US |
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On Apr 26, 10:23*am, notbob wrote:
On 2011-04-26, zxcvbob wrote: work. *Also aren't peas a little sweeter than lentils? That's why you CAN NOT substitute split peas for lentils. *Unlike lentils, split peas actually taste GOOD, while lentils taste like ...well, lentils. * :P Well, yellow lentils turn to mush for me if I don't slightly undercook them. Jerry -- Engineering is the art of making what you want from things you can get. |
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Dan Abel wrote:
And are those whole split peas or split whole peas? :=) They are whole split peas. The split whole peas are the ones that escaped. They split this popcicle stand. ;^) |
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