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What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the
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![]() "john royce" > wrote in message ... > What is the best way to cook Okra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the > slimy texture? Nothing doing. Even battered and deep fried, you still have the slime. Ever hear the comedian who said he ate so much okra as a child he couldn't keep his socks up? |
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"cybercat" > wrote: > "john royce" > wrote in message > ... > > What is the best way to cook Okra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the > > slimy texture? > Nothing doing. Even battered and deep fried, you still have the slime. Ever > hear the comedian who said he ate so much okra as a child he couldn't keep > his socks up? My Creole friends tell me that they usually add tomatoes when they cook okra because increasing acidity decreases slime. I haven't tried it yet. D.M. |
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john royce said...
> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the > slimy texture? When you google a successful method to minimize slime, get back to us. Andy |
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Andy wrote:
> john royce said... > >> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the >> slimy texture? > > > When you google a successful method to minimize slime, get back to us. > > Andy I don't know what you guys are talking about. When I fry okra in the skillet, or deep fry (been a long time since I've used that method), no slime is left. Bob |
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Bob Muncie said...
> Andy wrote: >> john royce said... >> >>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize >>> the slimy texture? >> >> >> When you google a successful method to minimize slime, get back to us. >> >> Andy > > I don't know what you guys are talking about. When I fry okra in the > skillet, or deep fry (been a long time since I've used that method), no > slime is left. > > Bob I did a cursory search and Ockra isn't the same as okra. Andy |
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Andy wrote:
> Bob Muncie said... > >> Andy wrote: >>> john royce said... >>> >>>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize >>>> the slimy texture? >>> >>> When you google a successful method to minimize slime, get back to us. >>> >>> Andy >> I don't know what you guys are talking about. When I fry okra in the >> skillet, or deep fry (been a long time since I've used that method), no >> slime is left. >> >> Bob > > > I did a cursory search and Ockra isn't the same as okra. > > Andy Hey there Andy... I am on dial-up this morning as my cable modem guys are still working out the issues they have from yesterday's high wind outage. So I did not do a lot of research on "Ockra" as an item. I just assumed it was a typo (like I make daily) when the phrase "lady fingers" was used (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_finger). Regards, Bob |
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Bob Muncie said...
> Andy wrote: >> Bob Muncie said... >> >>> Andy wrote: >>>> john royce said... >>>> >>>>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize >>>>> the slimy texture? >>>> >>>> When you google a successful method to minimize slime, get back to us. >>>> >>>> Andy >>> I don't know what you guys are talking about. When I fry okra in the >>> skillet, or deep fry (been a long time since I've used that method), no >>> slime is left. >>> >>> Bob >> >> >> I did a cursory search and Ockra isn't the same as okra. >> >> Andy > > Hey there Andy... > > I am on dial-up this morning as my cable modem guys are still working > out the issues they have from yesterday's high wind outage. So I did not > do a lot of research on "Ockra" as an item. I just assumed it was a typo > (like I make daily) when the phrase "lady fingers" was used > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_finger). > > Regards, > > Bob Bob, Yeah. It sounded like a typo to me, too! How more anal/specific can I get? LOL!!! Best, Andy |
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![]() > I did a cursory search and Ockra isn't the same as okra. > > Andy- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - What a coincidence that okra and ockra would both be slimey. Mr. Royce, which did you mean? N. |
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On Oct 8, 7:31*am, Bob Muncie > wrote:
> Andy wrote: > > john royce said... > > >> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the > >> slimy texture? > > > When you google a successful method to minimize slime, get back to us. > > > Andy > > I don't know what you guys are talking about. When I fry okra in the > skillet, or deep fry (been a long time since I've used that method), no > slime is left. > > Bob The okra I mistakenly tried because a friend said I would love it deep fried, was slimey on the inside, not the outside. N. |
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Nancy2 wrote:
> On Oct 8, 7:31 am, Bob Muncie > wrote: >> Andy wrote: >>> john royce said... >>>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the >>>> slimy texture? >>> When you google a successful method to minimize slime, get back to us. >>> Andy >> I don't know what you guys are talking about. When I fry okra in the >> skillet, or deep fry (been a long time since I've used that method), no >> slime is left. >> >> Bob > > The okra I mistakenly tried because a friend said I would love it deep > fried, was slimey on the inside, not the outside. > > N. Nancy - If I were to make it for you, you would not find it "slimy". I know because the first time I had okra, it was *very* slimy, and left me with an impression I'd never want to try it again. But a good fry, or a dry style oven bake would likely change your mind. It did change mine. I love the flavor, hate the slime. Bob |
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Bob Muncie said...
> Nancy2 wrote: >> On Oct 8, 7:31 am, Bob Muncie > wrote: >>> Andy wrote: >>>> john royce said... >>>>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to >>>>> minimize the slimy texture? >>>> When you google a successful method to minimize slime, get back to >>>> us. Andy >>> I don't know what you guys are talking about. When I fry okra in the >>> skillet, or deep fry (been a long time since I've used that method), >>> no slime is left. >>> >>> Bob >> >> The okra I mistakenly tried because a friend said I would love it deep >> fried, was slimey on the inside, not the outside. >> >> N. > > Nancy - If I were to make it for you, you would not find it "slimy". I > know because the first time I had okra, it was *very* slimy, and left me > with an impression I'd never want to try it again. > > But a good fry, or a dry style oven bake would likely change your mind. > > It did change mine. > > I love the flavor, hate the slime. > > Bob Bob, Way back in time, <G> there was a Gumbo cook-along that I took part in. Andy's Gumbo v1.0 I'd read up on a dozen and more recipes and got lots of negatives and warnings about okra slime, so I used filé powder as the finishing/thickening agent. Not 100% authentic gumbo but not slimy either. I do wonder if I'd used okra as the called for ingredient, would I have noticed slime in the finished dish? Probably not. Best, Andy |
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On Oct 8, 7:04*am, "john royce" > wrote:
> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the > slimy texture? It's "okra." There is no way to de-slime it. Throw it in the compost. N. |
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Nancy2 wrote on Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT):
> On Oct 8, 7:04 am, "john royce" > wrote: >> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to >> minimize the slimy texture? > It's "okra." > There is no way to de-slime it. Throw it in the compost. Yes there is! I like it thinly sliced and fried crisp served with some Indian foods or as a component of a raita. The rather small okras that you can buy in Indian stores are best. -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2
> wrote: >On Oct 8, 7:04*am, "john royce" > wrote: >> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the >> slimy texture? > >It's "okra." > >There is no way to de-slime it. Throw it in the compost. > >N. Now, now. I can cook it so even you would like it. -- modom |
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On Oct 8, 10:37*am, "modom (palindrome guy)" >
wrote: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 > > > wrote: > >On Oct 8, 7:04*am, "john royce" > wrote: > >> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the > >> slimy texture? > > >It's "okra." > > >There is no way to de-slime it. *Throw it in the compost. > > >N. > > Now, now. I can cook it so even you would like it. > -- > > modom I've been tempted before, and found out the person LIED. ;-) Never again. N. |
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Nancy2 > wrote:
> "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote: > > > > Now, now. I can cook it so even you would like it. > > I've been tempted before, and found out the person LIED. ;-) Never > again. Are there any authentic Vietnamese restaurants within striking distance? If so, go there and order canh chua, hot-n-sour soup. It has nothing to do with the Chinese version and is closer to the Thai tom yam (but still very different). A few okra pieces are usually there and if the soup is correctly made you will find that they are crunchy, not slimy at all. Victor |
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Victor Sack wrote:
> Nancy2 > wrote: > >> "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote: >>> Now, now. I can cook it so even you would like it. >> I've been tempted before, and found out the person LIED. ;-) Never >> again. > > Are there any authentic Vietnamese restaurants within striking distance? > If so, go there and order canh chua, hot-n-sour soup. It has nothing to > do with the Chinese version and is closer to the Thai tom yam (but still > very different). A few okra pieces are usually there and if the soup is > correctly made you will find that they are crunchy, not slimy at all. > > Victor Victor - To be honest, with the hot & sour soup I make (with a swirled in raw egg), you would not notice any sliminess in the okra, assuming you added them. The spicy will counter any texture you don't like :-) Bob |
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![]() "modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote in message ... > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 > > wrote: > >> >>There is no way to de-slime it. Throw it in the compost. >> >>N. > > Now, now. I can cook it so even you would like it. No you can't. My Mom said that for many, many years. But it never happened. The stench of it cooking makes me nauseous. |
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:47:44 -0400, "Jenny" > wrote:
> >"modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote in message .. . >> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 >> > wrote: >> >>> >>>There is no way to de-slime it. Throw it in the compost. >>> >>>N. >> >> Now, now. I can cook it so even you would like it. > >No you can't. My Mom said that for many, many years. But it never >happened. The stench of it cooking makes me nauseous. > Well, it will almost surely never happen that I cook for you -- okra or anything else. So there's not much chance we will ever settle this. But I can make it very good, and there's no stench, just the aroma of caramelizing plant sugars and hot soy sauce. One thing I like about okra is that it takes hot Texas weather well, producing in abundance after most other crops in the garden have faded away. -- modom |
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On Oct 8, 8:27*pm, "modom (palindrome guy)" >
wrote: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:47:44 -0400, "Jenny" > wrote: > > >"modom (palindrome guy)" > wrote in message > .. . > >> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 07:58:37 -0700 (PDT), Nancy2 > >> > wrote: > > >>>There is no way to de-slime it. *Throw it in the compost. > > >>>N. > > >> Now, now. I can cook it so even you would like it. > > >No you can't. *My Mom said that for many, many years. *But it never > >happened. *The stench of it cooking makes me nauseous. > > Well, it will almost surely never happen that I cook for you -- okra > or anything else. So there's not much chance we will ever settle this. > But I can make it very good, and there's no stench, just the aroma of > caramelizing plant sugars and hot soy sauce. > > One thing I like about okra is that it takes hot Texas weather well, > producing in abundance after most other crops in the garden have faded > away. > -- > > modom- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Have you noticed that the OP has never answered if he meant okra or ockra? N. |
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On Oct 8, 7:58*am, Nancy2 > wrote:
> On Oct 8, 7:04*am, "john royce" > wrote: > > > What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the > > slimy texture? > > It's "okra." > > There is no way to de-slime it. *Throw it in the compost. > > N. yuck...almost as bad as nopalitos; sold in jars here in socal and is peeled cactus that is put into scrambled eggs. i guess it's an ethnic thing. and you have to be raised eating it in your family. i never could learn |
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critters & me in azusa, ca wrote:
> On Oct 8, 7:58 am, Nancy2 > wrote: >> On Oct 8, 7:04 am, "john royce" > wrote: >> >>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the >>> slimy texture? >> It's "okra." >> >> There is no way to de-slime it. Throw it in the compost. >> >> N. > > yuck...almost as bad as nopalitos; sold in jars here in socal and is > peeled cactus that is put into scrambled eggs. i guess it's an ethnic > thing. and you have to be raised eating it in your family. i never > could learn > I hope you haven't limited your future due to a non-appreciated offering. Even if jarred, I assume they would lose their sliminess if fried at a high enough temp, or for long enough. I think it is likely the same way with cactus. Please post back with some of your experimentation. Bob |
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On Oct 8, 9:26*am, Bob Muncie > wrote:
> critters & me in azusa, ca wrote: > > > > > > > On Oct 8, 7:58 am, Nancy2 > wrote: > >> On Oct 8, 7:04 am, "john royce" > wrote: > > >>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the > >>> slimy texture? > >> It's "okra." > > >> There is no way to de-slime it. *Throw it in the compost. > > >> N. > > > yuck...almost as bad as nopalitos; sold in jars here in socal and is > > peeled cactus that is put into scrambled eggs. i guess it's an ethnic > > thing. and you have to be raised eating it in your family. *i never > > could learn > > I hope you haven't limited your future due to a non-appreciated offering. > > Even if jarred, I assume they would lose their sliminess if fried at a > high enough temp, or for long enough. I think it is likely the same way > with cactus. > > Please post back with some of your experimentation. > > Bob i ate it 50 years ago, (at age 16) when married to the mexican husband, and once was enough. now hot stuff in general that is good; i'll eat any type of mexican food except nopalitos. i love menudo (when it is made correctly with lots of tripas and pata, & caldo (either chicken or beef). |
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critters & me in azusa, ca wrote:
> On Oct 8, 9:26 am, Bob Muncie > wrote: >> critters & me in azusa, ca wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Oct 8, 7:58 am, Nancy2 > wrote: >>>> On Oct 8, 7:04 am, "john royce" > wrote: >>>>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the >>>>> slimy texture? >>>> It's "okra." >>>> There is no way to de-slime it. Throw it in the compost. >>>> N. >>> yuck...almost as bad as nopalitos; sold in jars here in socal and is >>> peeled cactus that is put into scrambled eggs. i guess it's an ethnic >>> thing. and you have to be raised eating it in your family. i never >>> could learn >> I hope you haven't limited your future due to a non-appreciated offering. >> >> Even if jarred, I assume they would lose their sliminess if fried at a >> high enough temp, or for long enough. I think it is likely the same way >> with cactus. >> >> Please post back with some of your experimentation. >> >> Bob > > i ate it 50 years ago, (at age 16) when married to the mexican > husband, and once was enough. now hot stuff in general > that is good; i'll eat any type of mexican food except nopalitos. i > love menudo (when it is made correctly with lots of tripas and pata, & > caldo (either chicken or beef). > I think eating those brains likely put holes in yours. Nothing wrong with Mexican cooking. I love it myself. But what does that have to do with Okra, and cooking it in ways that are not slimy? Bob |
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critters & me in azusa, ca wrote:
> On Oct 8, 7:58 am, Nancy2 > wrote: >> On Oct 8, 7:04 am, "john royce" > wrote: >> >>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the >>> slimy texture? >> It's "okra." >> >> There is no way to de-slime it. Throw it in the compost. >> >> N. > > yuck...almost as bad as nopalitos; sold in jars here in socal and is > peeled cactus that is put into scrambled eggs. i guess it's an ethnic > thing. and you have to be raised eating it in your family. i never > could learn > I've been eating nopalitos my whole life, you need to rinse them really good after removing from the jar. Then proceed with your recipe. I like them in what I call a "Tex-Mex" tuna salad, make the salad as usual and then chop up some well rinsed nopalitos and some black olives, add a bit of chili powder to the mix and then eat. Works for me. |
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Harriet wrote:
> yuck...almost as bad as nopalitos; sold in jars here in socal and is > peeled cactus that is put into scrambled eggs. i guess it's an ethnic > thing. and you have to be raised eating it in your family. i never could > learn Traditionally, nopales are boiled, and yes, that does tend to give a slimy texture, just like boiling okra. However, I like to cut nopales into strips and grill them; you minimize the slime that way and the flavor is a bit reminiscent of green beans with a splash of lemon. Prepared that way, nopales make a nice addition to a salad, tostadas, or tacos. A few years ago I concocted what I called a "Santa Fe gumbo" which followed the general formula for a chicken-sausage gumbo only using Southwestern ingredients: The roux was made exactly as for a gumbo. The "trinity" was modified by using poblano chiles in place of green bell peppers. I used a spicy pork sausage in place of andouille, and the "gumbo" was thickened with chopped cactus instead of filé powder or okra. Bob |
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On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:04:37 +0100, "john royce"
> wrote: >What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the >slimy texture? > Lately, I've been splitting the pods in half longways, tossing with olive oil and soy soyce, and roasting them in a 350F oven for about half an hour till they get a little browned and begin to dry. -- modom |
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On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:36:34 -0500, "modom (palindrome guy)"
> wrote: >On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:04:37 +0100, "john royce" > wrote: > >>What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the >>slimy texture? >> > >Lately, I've been splitting the pods in half longways, tossing with >olive oil and soy soyce, and roasting them in a 350F oven for about >half an hour till they get a little browned and begin to dry. Erm... make that soy sauce. -- modom |
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modom (palindrome guy) wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 10:36:34 -0500, "modom (palindrome guy)" > > wrote: > >> On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:04:37 +0100, "john royce" >> > wrote: >> >>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the >>> slimy texture? >>> >> Lately, I've been splitting the pods in half longways, tossing with >> olive oil and soy soyce, and roasting them in a 350F oven for about >> half an hour till they get a little browned and begin to dry. > > Erm... make that soy sauce. Modem - Now that you mentioned it, I also use soy sauce on my okra, and it has been received nicely by all. Next time at the grocery I will specifically look for the okra ;-) It's soup season now, and I like that veggie. Bob |
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On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:05:08 +0100, cvining
> wrote: > >'modom (palindrome guy)[_3_ Wrote: >> ;1387413']On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:04:37 +0100, "john royce" >> lid wrote: >> - >> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize >> the >> slimy texture? >> - >> >> Lately, I've been splitting the pods in half longways, tossing with >> olive oil and soy soyce, and roasting them in a 350F oven for about >> half an hour till they get a little browned and begin to dry. >> -- >> >> modom > >Thanks for the tip. I also was wondering how to make okra less slimy. >Thanks again. There's another way. Although for the life of me I can't understand why people who eat oysters hate okra because of its texture, I accept that some people despise this noble veggie. Method: Trim the stems, but leave the crowns. Peel the tough outer layer off the crowns, leaving a cone-shaped cap on the pod. Use your fave veggie-peeler. Soak in lemon juice for a while, maybe an hour. Rinse (or not) and either grill on iron or in a convection oven to the point where the ribs start turning brown. Serve as is or incorporate into your favorite gumbo (whole) or tagine. I love it stewed with lamb shoulder and Moroccan preserved lemon. HTH, Alex |
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:37:40 -0500, Chemiker
> wrote: >On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 05:05:08 +0100, cvining > wrote: > >> >>'modom (palindrome guy)[_3_ Wrote: >>> ;1387413']On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:04:37 +0100, "john royce" >>> lid wrote: >>> - >>> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize >>> the >>> slimy texture? >>> - >>> >>> Lately, I've been splitting the pods in half longways, tossing with >>> olive oil and soy soyce, and roasting them in a 350F oven for about >>> half an hour till they get a little browned and begin to dry. >>> -- >>> >>> modom >> >>Thanks for the tip. I also was wondering how to make okra less slimy. >>Thanks again. > >There's another way. Although for the life of me I can't understand >why people who eat oysters hate okra because of its texture, I accept >that some people despise this noble veggie. > >Method: > >Trim the stems, but leave the crowns. Peel the tough outer layer >off the crowns, leaving a cone-shaped cap on the pod. Use your >fave veggie-peeler. Soak in lemon juice for a while, maybe an hour. >Rinse (or not) and either grill on iron or in a convection oven to >the point where the ribs start turning brown. Serve as is or >incorporate into your favorite gumbo (whole) or tagine. I love >it stewed with lamb shoulder and Moroccan preserved lemon. > >HTH, > >Alex Yup. That would work very well. The South Asian students participating in the community garden here grew lots of "lady fingers" this summer. I'll have to get their ideas sometime. -- modom |
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On Oct 8, 8:04*am, "john royce" > wrote:
> What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the > slimy texture? Not sure. A resto here offers battered and deep fried okra as a side and it's still a bit slimy. I keep a bag in the freezer and add to gumbo - but that's about the only way I use it. |
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Kalmia wrote:
> Not sure. A resto here offers battered and deep fried okra as a side > and it's still a bit slimy. > > I keep a bag in the freezer and add to gumbo - but that's about the > only way I use it. > So far, I have never had fried okra that was slimy, maybe I have been lucky. The last time I fried okra, I cooked the okra in bacon fat for about 10 minutes, then I added fresh bread crumbs and cooked it until the bread crumbs turned brown. I added sliced green onions when it was almost done, it tasted pretty good. I also like it boiled, baked and in soup. It tastes good in gumbo, but it thickens vegetable soup as well. Becca |
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![]() "Becca" > wrote in message ... > Kalmia wrote: >> Not sure. A resto here offers battered and deep fried okra as a side >> and it's still a bit slimy. >> >> I keep a bag in the freezer and add to gumbo - but that's about the >> only way I use it. >> > > > So far, I have never had fried okra that was slimy, maybe I have been > lucky. The last time I fried okra, I cooked the okra in bacon fat for > about 10 minutes, then I added fresh bread crumbs and cooked it until the > bread crumbs turned brown. I added sliced green onions when it was almost > done, it tasted pretty good. I also like it boiled, baked and in soup. > It tastes good in gumbo, but it thickens vegetable soup as well. > I want to eat at your house! |
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cybercat wrote:
>> So far, I have never had fried okra that was slimy, maybe I have been >> lucky. The last time I fried okra, I cooked the okra in bacon fat for >> about 10 minutes, then I added fresh bread crumbs and cooked it until the >> bread crumbs turned brown. I added sliced green onions when it was almost >> done, it tasted pretty good. I also like it boiled, baked and in soup. >> It tastes good in gumbo, but it thickens vegetable soup as well. >> >> > I want to eat at your house! You are certainly welcome. :-) Sorry it took so long to respond, I had a house full of company for a couple of days so it has been hit and miss. I have 1100 messages in this group and I am going to delete them, I hope I am not missing anything good. Becca |
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![]() "john royce" > wrote in message ... > What is the best way to cook Ockra (ladies fingers) so as to minimize the > slimy texture? > Best recipe for okra? Do a google search for Alan Zelt's "lutefisk" recipe, and just substitute okra for the lutefisk. HTH |
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