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Back to Butter.
After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally switched gears and went back to real unsalted butter! I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity of real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with how little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! Andy |
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![]() "Andy" > wrote in message ... > Back to Butter. > > After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally > switched > gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > > I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity > of > real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with > how > little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about > 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. > > Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! > > Andy IMO, a smart decision. I don't see where replacing a pure food with something processed can be good. Sure, that fat is not so good but moderation is the key. |
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On 2009-03-01, Andy > wrote:
> After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally switched > gears and went back to real unsalted butter! Yep. Mom likes the fake stuff, so I've tried a ton o' different brands. Canola Harvest is about the best between flavor and cold spreadability, but I keep a couple cubes of the real deal hidden away. ![]() nb |
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In article >, Andy > wrote:
> Back to Butter. > > After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally switched > gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > > I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity of > real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with how > little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about > 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. > > Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! > > Andy I trust mother nature better than a container that reads like a chemistry lab... -- Peace! Om I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama |
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Ed Pawlowski said...
> > "Andy" > wrote in message news:Xns9BC1616CFD5D6CotD@ 216.196.97.131... >> Back to Butter. >> >> After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally >> switched >> gears and went back to real unsalted butter! >> >> I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity >> of >> real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with >> how >> little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about >> 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. >> >> Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! >> >> Andy > > IMO, a smart decision. I don't see where replacing a pure food with > something processed can be good. Sure, that fat is not so good but > moderation is the key. Ed, Agreed on all three points. Something else I never liked about Benecol was that even though it was low in sodium, there was some other ingredient in it that made it taste way too salty! I couldn't spread it thinly enough. Best, Andy |
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In article >, Andy > wrote:
>Back to Butter. > >After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally switched >gears and went back to real unsalted butter! G'day Andy, I've never been able to understand why people in this age who profess a preference for "organic", "natural", and similar, also seem happy to eat pseudo-foods manufactured from the cheapest oil (often palm oil) on the daily market quotes and transported in bulk in rusty steel bins that probably contained sheep shit (at best) or organochlorides on the previous voyage. >I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity of >real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with how >little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about >1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. > >Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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Omelet said...
> I trust mother nature better than a container that reads like a > chemistry lab... Om, Yeah.... what can I say, drastic measures for drastic times? Best, Andy |
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On Mar 1, 8:37*am, Andy > wrote:
> Back to Butter. > > After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally switched > gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > > I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity of > real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with how > little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about > 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. There is no way that Butter is "healthier" than Benecol, though it IS MUCH healthier that hydrogenated margarine. I congratulate you on the switch though. Life is too short to eat crappy tasting things. Butterfat is delicious. Margarine is not. > > Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! > > Andy --Bryan |
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On Mar 1, 10:25 am, Bobo Bonobo® > wrote:
> On Mar 1, 8:37 am, Andy > wrote: > > > Back to Butter. > > > After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally switched > > gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > > > I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity of > > real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with how > > little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about > > 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. > > There is no way that Butter is "healthier" than Benecol, though it IS > MUCH healthier that hydrogenated margarine. I congratulate you on the > switch though. Life is too short to eat crappy tasting things. > Butterfat is delicious. > Margarine is not. > > > > > Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! > > > Andy > > --Bryan Yes, Andy. Welcome back. B |
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Phred said...
> In article >, Andy > wrote: >>Back to Butter. >> >>After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally >>switched gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > > G'day Andy, > > I've never been able to understand why people in this age who profess > a preference for "organic", "natural", and similar, also seem happy to > eat pseudo-foods manufactured from the cheapest oil (often palm oil) > on the daily market quotes and transported in bulk in rusty steel bins > that probably contained sheep shit (at best) or organochlorides on the > previous voyage. Phred, Funny, my high school senior project was all about food additives. And decades later I don't take some of my own advice? ![]() Mom raised us on margarine. I never liked it. My friend's Mom used the real butter. I enjoyed eating her bread and butter sandwiches much more! As soon as I left home, I switched over to real butter. > Cheers, Phred. Best, Andy |
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Bobo Bonobo® said...
> On Mar 1, 8:37*am, Andy > wrote: >> Back to Butter. >> >> After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally switch > ed >> gears and went back to real unsalted butter! >> >> I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity > of >> real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with > how >> little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and abou > t >> 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. > > There is no way that Butter is "healthier" than Benecol, though it IS > MUCH healthier that hydrogenated margarine. I congratulate you on the > switch though. Life is too short to eat crappy tasting things. > Butterfat is delicious. > Margarine is not. >> >> Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! >> >> Andy > > --Bryan Bryan, Benecol did manage to squeeze their 0.4g of transfat! Land O' Lakes is sweet cream and natural flavor (that BETTER NOT be MSG or transfat). The FDA sucks with their transfat "truth in labeling" requirement! Canada has to account for all transfats. Best, Andy |
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bulka said...
> Yes, Andy. Welcome back. > > B bulka, Thanks. ![]() I'm going to make a giant popover. Getting out the ol' popover pail. <G> Best, Andy |
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On Sun 01 Mar 2009 07:58:16a, notbob told us...
> On 2009-03-01, Andy > wrote: > >> After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally >> switched gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > > Yep. Mom likes the fake stuff, so I've tried a ton o' different brands. > Canola Harvest is about the best between flavor and cold spreadability, > but I keep a couple cubes of the real deal hidden away. ![]() > > nb > I agree. After trying many brands I stumbled onto Canola Harvest and we like the best of the fake stuff. David will eat it on most anything. I only eat it melted over veggies. I always have unsalted butter in the freezer and use it when I have *good* bread to eat. I don't eat bread otherwise. I also use the butter *in* cooking and baking. -- Wayne Boatwright "One man's meat is another man's poison" - Oswald Dykes, English writer, 1709. |
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On Mar 1, 10:38 am, Andy > wrote:
> Mom raised us on margarine. I never liked it. My friend's Mom used the real > butter. I enjoyed eating her bread and butter sandwiches much more! > > As soon as I left home, I switched over to real butter. I was raised on marg, too. I think fifty years ago it was the modern thing to do. My grandma still used butter, but kept it in the cabinet until it got rancid. Grew up thinking butter was nasty. Then I grew up. Even in the rough patches I've spent $4 for butter rather than 79c for marg. B |
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On Mar 1, 9:45*am, Andy > wrote:
> Bobo Bonobo® said... > > > > > > > On Mar 1, 8:37*am, Andy > wrote: > >> Back to Butter. > > >> After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally > switch > > ed > >> gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > > >> I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the > purity > > *of > >> real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with > > how > >> little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and > abou > > t > >> 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. > > > There is no way that Butter is "healthier" than Benecol, though it IS > > MUCH healthier that hydrogenated margarine. *I congratulate you on the > > switch though. *Life is too short to eat crappy tasting things. > > Butterfat is delicious. > > Margarine is not. > > >> Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! > > >> Andy > > > --Bryan > > Bryan, > > Benecol did manage to squeeze their 0.4g of transfat! In that case, it's win-win. Those *******s should be killed, publicly and in a very bloody way, guts too. I hope it gets to the point where some folks whove lost everything to some of these thieving *******s in high places take the law into their own hands and do some serious killing. That Madoff guy. It'd be so beautiful to see him killed on YouTube while he begged for his life. "Dust to Dust" > > Land O' Lakes is sweet cream and natural flavor (that BETTER NOT be MSG or > transfat). > > The FDA sucks with their transfat "truth in labeling" requirement! I just bet that with a decent human being in the White House, that'll change. > > Canada has to account for all transfats. Our neighbor to the north is in many ways more civilized that the USA, for better or worse ![]() > > Best, > > Andy --Bryan |
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In article >, says...
> > Back to Butter. > > After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally switched > gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > > I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity of > real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with how > little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about > 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. > > Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! > > Andy I pretty much use unsalted butter for everything. I found that zapping a stick in a microwave oven for five second increments softens it for spreading too. Usually two to three five second cycles is enough. |
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On 2009-03-01, T > wrote:
> > I pretty much use unsalted butter for everything. I found that zapping a > stick in a microwave oven for five second increments softens it for > spreading too. Usually two to three five second cycles is enough. Yep. One of the few truly handy uses of a microwave. nb |
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T > wrote: > I pretty much use unsalted butter for everything. I found that zapping a > stick in a microwave oven f Using a vegetable peeler to shave some makes for easy spreading, too. I usually keep a couple tablespoons at room temp on a small dish, refrigerating the rest. -- -Barb, Mother Superior, HOSSSPoJ http://web.me.com/barbschaller "What you say about someone else says more about you than it does about the other person." |
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 12:14:10 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> wrote: >In article > , > T > wrote: >> I pretty much use unsalted butter for everything. I found that zapping a >> stick in a microwave oven f > >Using a vegetable peeler to shave some makes for easy spreading, too. >I usually keep a couple tablespoons at room temp on a small dish, >refrigerating the rest. Snazzy idea! I will do my best to remember it! Mom always kept a whole stick (4 ounces) out. I do the same. It gets used fast enough that it doesn't go rancid. Carol -- Change "invalid" to JamesBond's agent number to reply. |
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T said...
> In article >, says... >> >> Back to Butter. >> >> After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally >> switched gears and went back to real unsalted butter! >> >> I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the >> purity of real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That >> combined with how little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 >> months old and about 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. >> >> Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! >> >> Andy > > I pretty much use unsalted butter for everything. I found that zapping a > stick in a microwave oven for five second increments softens it for > spreading too. Usually two to three five second cycles is enough. T, I'll have to buy a cheap-o butter dish. I have an old crystal one. A fine excuse to visit Fantés (fantes.com) in South Philadelphia. Question: Does the butter get ruined somehow after too many heating and coolings? Thanks! Best, Andy |
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![]() "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message news:2275cd30-165b-4364-9738- Cutting to the chase, he said: "Life is too short to eat crappy tasting things. Butterfat is delicious. Margarine is not." To which I add "Amen!" Those are words we should live by. Felice |
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![]() "Andy" > wrote in message ... > > I'm going to make a giant popover. Getting out the ol' popover pail. <G> > > Best, > > Andy Enjoy! And may the butter dribble down your arm as you eat the popover. Felice |
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Felice said...
> > "Andy" > wrote in message news:Xns9BC16DF2F88D8CotD@ 216.196.97.131... >> >> I'm going to make a giant popover. Getting out the ol' popover pail. <G> >> >> Best, >> >> Andy > > Enjoy! And may the butter dribble down your arm as you eat the popover. > > Felice Felice, Why that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me all day! ![]() Thanks, Andy |
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:51:39 -0500, Felice wrote:
> "Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message > news:2275cd30-165b-4364-9738- > > Cutting to the chase, he said: > > "Life is too short to eat crappy tasting things. Butterfat is delicious. > Margarine is not." > > To which I add "Amen!" Those are words we should live by. > > Felice Amen ! -- Groet, salut, Wim. |
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notbob wrote:
> On 2009-03-01, Andy > wrote: > >> After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally switched >> gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > > Yep. Mom likes the fake stuff, so I've tried a ton o' different brands. > Canola Harvest is about the best between flavor and cold spreadability, but > I keep a couple cubes of the real deal hidden away. ![]() > > nb DH likes the fake stuff, too. I buy Smart Balance® Light in the tub for him. After trying many brands, that one is the least disagreeable in taste. I don't eat bread but I like to make quesadillas and fry them in butter---*real* sweet butter. I can taste the chemicals in the spreads which is amazing since I have whacky taste buds. |
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 08:37:34 -0600, Andy > wrote:
>Back to Butter. > >After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally switched >gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > >I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity of >real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with how >little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about >1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. > >Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! > Do you have a decent olive oil on hand for dipping bread? We wave away the butter at restaurants and ask for OO now. -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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sf said...
> Do you have a decent olive oil on hand for dipping bread? We wave > away the butter at restaurants and ask for OO now. sf, I guess it's decent OO. Martini's brand Kalamata extra virgin olive oil (product of Greece). It tastes good lathered (one-sided) on French bread coins and then toasted under the broiler. I probably wouldn't know prize-winning olive oil unless it came sold with a trophy! ![]() Best, Andy |
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On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 15:16:17 -0600, Andy > wrote:
>I probably wouldn't know prize-winning olive oil unless it came sold with a >trophy! ![]() ![]() can taste to your heart's content. It's very European, but catching on over here too. http://www.theolivepress.com/ or The Olive Bar in Campbell, CA -- I never worry about diets. The only carrots that interest me are the number of carats in a diamond. Mae West |
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l, not -l said...
> > On 1-Mar-2009, Andy > wrote: > >> I'll have to buy a cheap-o butter dish. I have an old crystal one. >> >> A fine excuse to visit Fantés (fantes.com) in South Philadelphia. >> >> Question: Does the butter get ruined somehow after too many heating and >> coolings? >> >> Thanks! > > Perhaps a butter bell might be a better choice for you, since you are > planning to buy something anyway. The butter bell allows you to keep > the butter spreadable at room temperature andt the water-seal keeps it > fresh for weeks. l, not -l, Funny you should mention it. I bought a butter bell (butter keeper) about two years ago but I think that was during my Benecol days so I never used it. I remember there was a long thread here at rfc about them at the time, so I bought one. Why not. I just can't walk into Fantés and NOT buy something and I just happened to be in the neighborhood. <VBG> I'll give it a try. It's still in the box. Best, Andy |
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![]() "Andy" > wrote in message ... > Back to Butter. > > After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally > switched > gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > > I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity > of > real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with > how > little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about > 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. > > Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! > > Andy Why did you go off in the first place? Dimitri |
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Dimitri said...
> > "Andy" > wrote in message news:Xns9BC1616CFD5D6CotD@ 216.196.97.131... >> Back to Butter. >> >> After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally >> switched >> gears and went back to real unsalted butter! >> >> I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the purity >> of >> real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with >> how >> little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and about >> 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. >> >> Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! >> >> Andy > > Why did you go off in the first place? > > Dimitri Dimitri, It was yo-yo diet round #3. Best, Andy |
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![]() "Andy" > wrote in message ... > Dimitri said... > >> >> "Andy" > wrote in message news:Xns9BC1616CFD5D6CotD@ > 216.196.97.131... >>> Back to Butter. >>> >>> After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally >>> switched >>> gears and went back to real unsalted butter! >>> >>> I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the > purity >>> of >>> real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That combined with >>> how >>> little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 months old and > about >>> 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. >>> >>> Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! >>> >>> Andy >> >> Why did you go off in the first place? >> >> Dimitri > > > Dimitri, > > It was yo-yo diet round #3. > > Best, > > Andy Interestingly, I believe the latest studies indicate butter & EVOO are better for you than the substitutes, from a health standpoint. The other recent studies seem to indicate, ALL, diet & exercise combinations work if only we would stay with them. The simple truth is if calories in are less than calories expended we lose weight if calories in are more than calories expended we gain weight - keeping in mind the more we weigh the more calories necessary to move our bodies. Dimitri |
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"Dimitri" > wrote: > >> Why did you go off in the first place? > >> > >> Dimitri > > > > > > Dimitri, > > > > It was yo-yo diet round #3. > > > > Best, > > > > Andy > > Interestingly, I believe the latest studies indicate butter & EVOO are > better for you than the substitutes, from a health standpoint. > > The other recent studies seem to indicate, ALL, diet & exercise combinations > work if only we would stay with them. > > The simple truth is if calories in are less than calories expended we lose > weight if calories in are more than calories expended we gain weight - > keeping in mind the more we weigh the more calories necessary to move our > bodies. > > > Dimitri But muscle burns more calories than fat. Hence the reason I've gotten back into weight lifting. :-) It's one real way to increase the metabolism, and I like weight lifting. It's fun. I just have to watch it with my back issues. -- Peace! Om I find hope in the darkest of days, and focus in the brightest. I do not judge the universe. -- Dalai Lama |
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Dimitri said...
> Interestingly, I believe the latest studies indicate butter & EVOO are > better for you than the substitutes, from a health standpoint. Dimitri As far as dieting is concerned, I certainly didn't get everything right but I don't really want to go into it. Instead, how about we get together and race sometime? ![]() http://s4.tinypic.com/t0gv2d.jpg Best, Andy |
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In article >, says...
> > T said... > > > In article >, says... > >> > >> Back to Butter. > >> > >> After a few years of using Benecol (fake butter spread), I finally > >> switched gears and went back to real unsalted butter! > >> > >> I decided the flavor, the handful of extra sat. fat. grams and the > >> purity of real is healthier than the over-processed fake stuff. That > >> combined with how little I actually used the Benecol (tub is probably 6 > >> months old and about 1/3 full), helped me decide to switch. > >> > >> Re-hi Land O' Lakes old friend! > >> > >> Andy > > > > I pretty much use unsalted butter for everything. I found that zapping a > > stick in a microwave oven for five second increments softens it for > > spreading too. Usually two to three five second cycles is enough. > > > T, > > I'll have to buy a cheap-o butter dish. I have an old crystal one. > > A fine excuse to visit Fantés (fantes.com) in South Philadelphia. > > Question: Does the butter get ruined somehow after too many heating and > coolings? > > Thanks! > > Best, > > Andy Normally when I zap it the portion is a tablespoon or three. So I have no experence with heat/re-heat issues. |
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>> Question: Does the butter get ruined somehow after too many heating and > >> coolings? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Best, >> >> Andy > > Normally when I zap it the portion is a tablespoon or three. So I have > no experence with heat/re-heat issues. T, OK. You said a stick of butter so I guessed it was an over and over thing. I got it now. Best, Andy |
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On Sun, 1 Mar 2009 08:27:35 -0800 (PST), Bobo Bonobo® wrote:
> On Mar 1, 9:45*am, Andy > wrote: >> >> Benecol did manage to squeeze their 0.4g of transfat! > > In that case, it's win-win. Those *******s should be killed, publicly > and in a very bloody way, guts too. I hope it gets to the point where > some folks whove lost everything to some of these thieving *******s in > high places take the law into their own hands and do some serious > killing. That Madoff guy. It'd be so beautiful to see him killed on > YouTube while he begged for his life. > "Dust to Dust" >> >> Land O' Lakes is sweet cream and natural flavor (that BETTER NOT be MSG or >> transfat). >> >> The FDA sucks with their transfat "truth in labeling" requirement! > > I just bet that with a decent human being in the White House, that'll > change. >> see, bobo, the thing is that 'decent human being[s]' don't call for people to be murdered 'publicly and in a very bloody way, guts too.' this is why decent people think you're a ****ing head case. blake |
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In article >, "Felice" > wrote:
> >"Bobo Bonobo®" > wrote in message >news:2275cd30-165b-4364-9738- > >Cutting to the chase, he said: > >"Life is too short to eat crappy tasting things. Butterfat is delicious. >Margarine is not." It's possible I've mentioned this here before... When I was a kid in the 40s we still had stuff called "Table Margarine" [to distinguish it from the cooking type] here in Oz. It had the consistency, colour, and flavour of butter -- to the extent that a sample once won a prize for "butter" in the Nambour agricultural show in the early 1900s (if I can believe what my father told me). The then politically powerful dairy industry objected to this direct competition and somehow seem to have got Table Margarine permanently removed from the shopping basket. (Bit like they got the "peanut butter" of my youth changed to "peanut paste".) It may not be definitive, but my observation at boarding school was that Table Margarine could be distinguished from the butter of home by taking a thin slice off a cold lump. Butter always seemed to shave off in a continuous slice whereas the marg tended to have very fine transverse cracks as it peeled off the block. >To which I add "Amen!" Those are words we should live by. Indeed, modern margarine is manufactured grease and should be restricted to use on truck and train axles. Cheers, Phred. -- LID |
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On Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:43:56 -0500, T wrote:
> In article >, > says... >> >> In article > , >> T > wrote: >>> I pretty much use unsalted butter for everything. I found that zapping a >>> stick in a microwave oven f >> >> Using a vegetable peeler to shave some makes for easy spreading, too. >> I usually keep a couple tablespoons at room temp on a small dish, >> refrigerating the rest. > > That's a good method. I'll have to keep that in mind. it is very clever, and something i'd never thought of doing. barb's a smart cookie. your pal, blake |
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