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We are having our Christmas Eve dinner out at a restaurant that caters to
senior citizens. Of course they have food for everyone else but they have a
large senior's menu and they give an additonal discount when you check out
if you had a senior dining with you. It is also a good place to dine if you
have food allergies because they offer some plain foods and plenty of side
dishes like canned fruit and cottage cheese. I know, I know... Why would
you dine out only to order canned fruit? Well because it's generally safe
if you have a food allergy. They have a very wide menu and we can all get
something we like there.

Afterwards we will go back to my parent's house for the surprise ball,
presents and dessert. No clue what they will have for dessert and not
interested since I don't eat it. I will pick up something for Angela and
probably get some sort of expensive candy at Central Market. My mom likes
their chocolate covered cherries.

For Christmas Day I will be making my husband the garlic, shrimp pasta that
he likes. Only problem is Angela accidentally picked up linguini instead of
the angel hair pasta. That was not her fault. There was an elderly Asian
man causing a scene in the aisle. It was quite comical but also very sad.
He had put 8 noodle bowls in the cart. The woman he was with freaked and
told him he couldn't have them. He then started hopping up and down,
screaming and crying that they had no food in the house. I turned around to
see the age of the boy who was doing this, only to see a little bitty
elderly man. The woman had two small things in the cart. One appeared to
be a metal Christmas decoration. I don't know what the other item was.
Then as soon as she turned her back to him, he grabbed a whole case of the
noodle bowls, and overturned them over her shoulder, pelting her with the
box and depositing the bowls in the cart. She started screaming at him
again. We were concerned because he kept saying there was nothing to eat.
No food in the house. We circled around, passing by the aisle again and the
woman appeared to be reading the ingredients. So maybe he got his noodle
bowls after all.

I will be making a tuna casserole for Angela and I. I know that doesn't
sound very festive but I don't make it often and it is one of Angela's
favorite foods. When I told her I would be making it, she was very happy!
I make it with macaroni made of quinoa. Lots of mushrooms and tuna and a
little macaroni.

I don't plan to have any real desserts at our house. It's possible my mom
will send some leftovers home to us, but we usually don't take them. I did
buy a can of some sort of cookies. Possibly Danish Butter. I don't know
and don't really care. I never know how serious my husband will be about
his diet when he comes home. Last time he told us not to buy him any sweets
or chips and that was all that he wanted when he got here. We do have chips
and aerosol cheese. I know, I know. I also have plenty of hummus.

Must go tomorrow and get some more fresh veggies. I thought I had plenty
but the carrots expired today. Will get whatever else we might need on
Friday when we go to Winco.

Have you made any plans yet?



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no I am pulling my hair out trying to get through the next twelve hours,
christmas seems a hundred light years away, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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> We are having our Christmas Eve dinner out at a restaurant that caters to
> senior citizens. Of course they have food for everyone else but they have
> a large senior's menu and they give an additonal discount when you check
> out if you had a senior dining with you. It is also a good place to dine
> if you have food allergies because they offer some plain foods and plenty
> of side dishes like canned fruit and cottage cheese. I know, I know...
> Why would you dine out only to order canned fruit? Well because it's
> generally safe if you have a food allergy. They have a very wide menu and
> we can all get something we like there.
>
> Afterwards we will go back to my parent's house for the surprise ball,
> presents and dessert. No clue what they will have for dessert and not
> interested since I don't eat it. I will pick up something for Angela and
> probably get some sort of expensive candy at Central Market. My mom likes
> their chocolate covered cherries.
>
> For Christmas Day I will be making my husband the garlic, shrimp pasta
> that he likes. Only problem is Angela accidentally picked up linguini
> instead of the angel hair pasta. That was not her fault. There was an
> elderly Asian man causing a scene in the aisle. It was quite comical but
> also very sad. He had put 8 noodle bowls in the cart. The woman he was
> with freaked and told him he couldn't have them. He then started hopping
> up and down, screaming and crying that they had no food in the house. I
> turned around to see the age of the boy who was doing this, only to see a
> little bitty elderly man. The woman had two small things in the cart.
> One appeared to be a metal Christmas decoration. I don't know what the
> other item was. Then as soon as she turned her back to him, he grabbed a
> whole case of the noodle bowls, and overturned them over her shoulder,
> pelting her with the box and depositing the bowls in the cart. She
> started screaming at him again. We were concerned because he kept saying
> there was nothing to eat. No food in the house. We circled around,
> passing by the aisle again and the woman appeared to be reading the
> ingredients. So maybe he got his noodle bowls after all.
>
> I will be making a tuna casserole for Angela and I. I know that doesn't
> sound very festive but I don't make it often and it is one of Angela's
> favorite foods. When I told her I would be making it, she was very happy!
> I make it with macaroni made of quinoa. Lots of mushrooms and tuna and a
> little macaroni.
>
> I don't plan to have any real desserts at our house. It's possible my mom
> will send some leftovers home to us, but we usually don't take them. I
> did buy a can of some sort of cookies. Possibly Danish Butter. I don't
> know and don't really care. I never know how serious my husband will be
> about his diet when he comes home. Last time he told us not to buy him
> any sweets or chips and that was all that he wanted when he got here. We
> do have chips and aerosol cheese. I know, I know. I also have plenty of
> hummus.
>
> Must go tomorrow and get some more fresh veggies. I thought I had plenty
> but the carrots expired today. Will get whatever else we might need on
> Friday when we go to Winco.
>
> Have you made any plans yet?
>
>
>



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> no I am pulling my hair out trying to get through the next twelve hours,
> christmas seems a hundred light years away, Lee


Uh oh.


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if i get through this day i will be able to tolerate most anything, I have a
self image of being a strong survivor, right night now, still breathing will
do, Lee
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>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>> no I am pulling my hair out trying to get through the next twelve hours,
>> christmas seems a hundred light years away, Lee

>
> Uh oh.
>



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Sorry to hear that Lee, prayers going your way xx

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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> if i get through this day i will be able to tolerate most anything, I
> have a self image of being a strong survivor, right night now, still
> breathing will do, Lee
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>>> no I am pulling my hair out trying to get through the next twelve
>>> hours, christmas seems a hundred light years away, Lee

>>
>> Uh oh.
>>

>
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No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends
and their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they are
just bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my boys can
get what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring a ham and
some cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a salad
together if they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert lined up
last year and no one ate any as we were too full and the ex and his GF
moved on to her daughter's house after eating here. I might just get
some fruit and we can cut it up if necessary.

"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> We are having our Christmas Eve dinner out at a restaurant that caters
> to senior citizens. Of course they have food for everyone else but
> they have a large senior's menu and they give an additonal discount
> when you check out if you had a senior dining with you. It is also a
> good place to dine if you have food allergies because they offer some
> plain foods and plenty of side dishes like canned fruit and cottage
> cheese. I know, I know... Why would you dine out only to order
> canned fruit? Well because it's generally safe if you have a food
> allergy. They have a very wide menu and we can all get something we
> like there.
>
> Afterwards we will go back to my parent's house for the surprise ball,
> presents and dessert. No clue what they will have for dessert and not
> interested since I don't eat it. I will pick up something for Angela
> and probably get some sort of expensive candy at Central Market. My
> mom likes their chocolate covered cherries.
>
> For Christmas Day I will be making my husband the garlic, shrimp pasta
> that he likes. Only problem is Angela accidentally picked up linguini
> instead of the angel hair pasta. That was not her fault. There was
> an elderly Asian man causing a scene in the aisle. It was quite
> comical but also very sad. He had put 8 noodle bowls in the cart. The
> woman he was with freaked and told him he couldn't have them. He then
> started hopping up and down, screaming and crying that they had no
> food in the house. I turned around to see the age of the boy who was
> doing this, only to see a little bitty elderly man. The woman had two
> small things in the cart. One appeared to be a metal Christmas
> decoration. I don't know what the other item was. Then as soon as she
> turned her back to him, he grabbed a whole case of the noodle bowls,
> and overturned them over her shoulder, pelting her with the box and
> depositing the bowls in the cart. She started screaming at him again.
> We were concerned because he kept saying there was nothing to eat. No
> food in the house. We circled around, passing by the aisle again and
> the woman appeared to be reading the ingredients. So maybe he got his
> noodle bowls after all.
>
> I will be making a tuna casserole for Angela and I. I know that
> doesn't sound very festive but I don't make it often and it is one of
> Angela's favorite foods. When I told her I would be making it, she
> was very happy! I make it with macaroni made of quinoa. Lots of
> mushrooms and tuna and a little macaroni.
>
> I don't plan to have any real desserts at our house. It's possible my
> mom will send some leftovers home to us, but we usually don't take
> them. I did buy a can of some sort of cookies. Possibly Danish
> Butter. I don't know and don't really care. I never know how serious
> my husband will be about his diet when he comes home. Last time he
> told us not to buy him any sweets or chips and that was all that he
> wanted when he got here. We do have chips and aerosol cheese. I
> know, I know. I also have plenty of hummus.
>
> Must go tomorrow and get some more fresh veggies. I thought I had
> plenty but the carrots expired today. Will get whatever else we might
> need on Friday when we go to Winco.
>
> Have you made any plans yet?
>
>
>

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> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
> something decent rather than half-arsed. [ . . . ]
> > "Julie Bove" > wrote in message

> [ . . . . ]


No idea! While my 'family' are all Thai, our daughter will probably do
something traditional for the kids.

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"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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> if i get through this day i will be able to tolerate most anything, I have
> a self image of being a strong survivor, right night now, still breathing
> will do, Lee


Okay.


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"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
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> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
> something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends and
> their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they are just
> bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my boys can get
> what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring a ham and some
> cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a salad together if
> they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert lined up last year and
> no one ate any as we were too full and the ex and his GF moved on to her
> daughter's house after eating here. I might just get some fruit and we can
> cut it up if necessary.


My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have brain
bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more a matter of
her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.


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We will be going to my Daughters house. She will be Brining and roasting a
turkey,(Her Dad, my hubby, always wants Turkey on Christmas) I will be
bringing a Nueski's Old Fashion Ham(we like them because they don't seem as
salty) My Son and his wife will be there along with my Grandkids, My
Daughters husbands family may come by for dessert. She will have the
typical side dishes. She does a lot of baking, so there will be breads and
pies. We will open presents after dinner. We used to go to my Sisters for
Christmas Eve, but got tired dodging drunks on the way home, so we just have
a nice quiet Christmas Eve at home. We just enjoy being with family,
especially the Grandkids. My husband will go above and beyond on my gifts as
he usually does. This year I will surprise him, I bought him a nice flat
screen TV for his bedroom wall...something he is not expecting


"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
...
> We are having our Christmas Eve dinner out at a restaurant that caters to
> senior citizens. Of course they have food for everyone else but they have
> a large senior's menu and they give an additonal discount when you check
> out if you had a senior dining with you. It is also a good place to dine
> if you have food allergies because they offer some plain foods and plenty
> of side dishes like canned fruit and cottage cheese. I know, I know...
> Why would you dine out only to order canned fruit? Well because it's
> generally safe if you have a food allergy. They have a very wide menu and
> we can all get something we like there.
>
> Afterwards we will go back to my parent's house for the surprise ball,
> presents and dessert. No clue what they will have for dessert and not
> interested since I don't eat it. I will pick up something for Angela and
> probably get some sort of expensive candy at Central Market. My mom likes
> their chocolate covered cherries.
>
> For Christmas Day I will be making my husband the garlic, shrimp pasta
> that he likes. Only problem is Angela accidentally picked up linguini
> instead of the angel hair pasta. That was not her fault. There was an
> elderly Asian man causing a scene in the aisle. It was quite comical but
> also very sad. He had put 8 noodle bowls in the cart. The woman he was
> with freaked and told him he couldn't have them. He then started hopping
> up and down, screaming and crying that they had no food in the house. I
> turned around to see the age of the boy who was doing this, only to see a
> little bitty elderly man. The woman had two small things in the cart.
> One appeared to be a metal Christmas decoration. I don't know what the
> other item was. Then as soon as she turned her back to him, he grabbed a
> whole case of the noodle bowls, and overturned them over her shoulder,
> pelting her with the box and depositing the bowls in the cart. She
> started screaming at him again. We were concerned because he kept saying
> there was nothing to eat. No food in the house. We circled around,
> passing by the aisle again and the woman appeared to be reading the
> ingredients. So maybe he got his noodle bowls after all.
>
> I will be making a tuna casserole for Angela and I. I know that doesn't
> sound very festive but I don't make it often and it is one of Angela's
> favorite foods. When I told her I would be making it, she was very happy!
> I make it with macaroni made of quinoa. Lots of mushrooms and tuna and a
> little macaroni.
>
> I don't plan to have any real desserts at our house. It's possible my mom
> will send some leftovers home to us, but we usually don't take them. I
> did buy a can of some sort of cookies. Possibly Danish Butter. I don't
> know and don't really care. I never know how serious my husband will be
> about his diet when he comes home. Last time he told us not to buy him
> any sweets or chips and that was all that he wanted when he got here. We
> do have chips and aerosol cheese. I know, I know. I also have plenty of
> hummus.
>
> Must go tomorrow and get some more fresh veggies. I thought I had plenty
> but the carrots expired today. Will get whatever else we might need on
> Friday when we go to Winco.
>
> Have you made any plans yet?
>
>
>
>





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> I did
> buy a can of some sort of cookies. Possibly Danish Butter. I don't know
> and don't really care.


yep, that sums up julie...but at least she'll have something to complain about
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>
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
>> something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends and
>> their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they are just
>> bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my boys can get
>> what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring a ham and some
>> cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a salad together if
>> they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert lined up last year
>> and no one ate any as we were too full and the ex and his GF moved on to
>> her daughter's house after eating here. I might just get some fruit and
>> we can cut it up if necessary.

>
> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have
> brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more a
> matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.
>
>

There comes a day when we older ones no longer want to "DO" holidays....A
few years ago I passed the holiday wand to my Daughter and Daughter In-law,
so I no longer had to do all of the holiday stuff. Now all I do is buy gifts
and enjoy the holidays and watch them run around all harried...LOL. No I do
help out but no longer have all of it on my shoulders. I do serve New Years
Day Dinner. We usually have Pork Roast and Sauerkraut on that day.


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> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have
> brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more a
> matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.


I'm willing to bet she's earned the right..."not to do much."

Cheri


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> There comes a day when we older ones no longer want to "DO" holidays....A
> few years ago I passed the holiday wand to my Daughter and Daughter
> In-law, so I no longer had to do all of the holiday stuff. Now all I do is
> buy gifts and enjoy the holidays and watch them run around all
> harried...LOL. No I do help out but no longer have all of it on my
> shoulders. I do serve New Years Day Dinner. We usually have Pork Roast and
> Sauerkraut on that day.


Heard that Jaquie!!! The thrill of it all left me a year or so ago, and
now...going to the kids (actually not really kids anymore all in their 40's)
but my oh my, it's been fun moving it on. The most peaceful holidays I've
had in 47 years. LOL

Cheri

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"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
> ...
>> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
>> something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends
>> and their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they
>> are just bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my
>> boys can get what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring
>> a ham and some cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a
>> salad together if they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert
>> lined up last year and no one ate any as we were too full and the ex
>> and his GF moved on to her daughter's house after eating here. I
>> might just get some fruit and we can cut it up if necessary.

>
> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have
> brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more
> a matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.


Either way, its the family get together that's more important than the
type of food or how much time is spent on making it special. Xmas can be
traumatic for a variety of reasons. We are absolutely stone broke this
Xmas but I am not depressed about it, as I know that we will get to do
Xmas, just not on Xmas Day . All family members have stated they are
not fussed about presents or a big Xmas spread etc. My one exception is
to fill a Santa bag and stocking for Jasmine.



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"Jacquie" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
>>> something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends
>>> and their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they are
>>> just bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my boys can
>>> get what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring a ham and
>>> some cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a salad
>>> together if they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert lined up
>>> last year and no one ate any as we were too full and the ex and his GF
>>> moved on to her daughter's house after eating here. I might just get
>>> some fruit and we can cut it up if necessary.

>>
>> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have
>> brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more a
>> matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.
>>
>>

> There comes a day when we older ones no longer want to "DO" holidays....A
> few years ago I passed the holiday wand to my Daughter and Daughter
> In-law, so I no longer had to do all of the holiday stuff. Now all I do is
> buy gifts and enjoy the holidays and watch them run around all
> harried...LOL. No I do help out but no longer have all of it on my
> shoulders. I do serve New Years Day Dinner. We usually have Pork Roast and
> Sauerkraut on that day.


She's not even buying or wrapping gifts. Just gift cards which is fine
because we don't really need anything.


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"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
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>
>
> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
>>> something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends
>>> and their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they are
>>> just bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my boys can
>>> get what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring a ham and
>>> some cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a salad
>>> together if they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert lined up
>>> last year and no one ate any as we were too full and the ex and his GF
>>> moved on to her daughter's house after eating here. I might just get
>>> some fruit and we can cut it up if necessary.

>>
>> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have
>> brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more a
>> matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.

>
> Either way, its the family get together that's more important than the
> type of food or how much time is spent on making it special. Xmas can be
> traumatic for a variety of reasons. We are absolutely stone broke this
> Xmas but I am not depressed about it, as I know that we will get to do
> Xmas, just not on Xmas Day . All family members have stated they are not
> fussed about presents or a big Xmas spread etc. My one exception is to
> fill a Santa bag and stocking for Jasmine.


Yeah. We're broke too. I had to really scale back on what I bought.


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> We will be going to my Daughters house. She will be Brining and roasting a
> turkey,(Her Dad, my hubby, always wants Turkey on Christmas) I will be
> bringing a Nueski's Old Fashion Ham(we like them because they don't seem
> as salty) My Son and his wife will be there along with my Grandkids, My
> Daughters husbands family may come by for dessert. She will have the
> typical side dishes. She does a lot of baking, so there will be breads and
> pies. We will open presents after dinner. We used to go to my Sisters for
> Christmas Eve, but got tired dodging drunks on the way home, so we just
> have a nice quiet Christmas Eve at home. We just enjoy being with family,
> especially the Grandkids. My husband will go above and beyond on my gifts
> as he usually does. This year I will surprise him, I bought him a nice
> flat screen TV for his bedroom wall...something he is not expecting


Nice!


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i lived, lol, Lee
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>> if i get through this day i will be able to tolerate most anything, I
>> have a self image of being a strong survivor, right night now, still
>> breathing will do, Lee

>
> Okay.
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also could be he gets over excited, or another possiblity is denying his
real condition, Lee
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>> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
>> something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends and
>> their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they are just
>> bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my boys can get
>> what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring a ham and some
>> cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a salad together if
>> they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert lined up last year
>> and no one ate any as we were too full and the ex and his GF moved on to
>> her daughter's house after eating here. I might just get some fruit and
>> we can cut it up if necessary.

>
> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have
> brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more a
> matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.
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what time is that pork dinner? Lee, getting out the calender
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>>> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
>>> something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends
>>> and their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they are
>>> just bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my boys can
>>> get what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring a ham and
>>> some cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a salad
>>> together if they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert lined up
>>> last year and no one ate any as we were too full and the ex and his GF
>>> moved on to her daughter's house after eating here. I might just get
>>> some fruit and we can cut it up if necessary.

>>
>> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have
>> brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more a
>> matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.
>>
>>

> There comes a day when we older ones no longer want to "DO" holidays....A
> few years ago I passed the holiday wand to my Daughter and Daughter
> In-law, so I no longer had to do all of the holiday stuff. Now all I do is
> buy gifts and enjoy the holidays and watch them run around all
> harried...LOL. No I do help out but no longer have all of it on my
> shoulders. I do serve New Years Day Dinner. We usually have Pork Roast and
> Sauerkraut on that day.
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what a great attitude, when i was a kid there were a few years where parents
didn't have a lot of money, so daddy would present us with a list of things
to choose from and we all got one family gift, the only one i remember is
the year we choose the pool table... pricey if purchased, but my dad went to
a pool supply house and bought felt, slate cups, and accessories, and built
the actual table, i was little enough i let older brother talk me into it
not having a clue what it was... its now living in the basement at my moms
and is over fourty years old and in great condition because he has replaced
the felt and rubbers a few times. Lee
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>>> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
>>> something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends
>>> and their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they are
>>> just bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my boys can
>>> get what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring a ham and
>>> some cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a salad
>>> together if they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert lined up
>>> last year and no one ate any as we were too full and the ex and his GF
>>> moved on to her daughter's house after eating here. I might just get
>>> some fruit and we can cut it up if necessary.

>>
>> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have
>> brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more a
>> matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.

>
> Either way, its the family get together that's more important than the
> type of food or how much time is spent on making it special. Xmas can be
> traumatic for a variety of reasons. We are absolutely stone broke this
> Xmas but I am not depressed about it, as I know that we will get to do
> Xmas, just not on Xmas Day . All family members have stated they are not
> fussed about presents or a big Xmas spread etc. My one exception is to
> fill a Santa bag and stocking for Jasmine.



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dh and i haven't ever been on the whole gift thing and without kids it costs
lots less, but staring at refurnishing a house is stress inducing, so even
if i had all the money i have ever spent on holidays i would still be
freaking, lol, Lee
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>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
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>>>> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
>>>> something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends
>>>> and their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they are
>>>> just bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my boys
>>>> can get what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring a ham
>>>> and some cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a salad
>>>> together if they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert lined
>>>> up last year and no one ate any as we were too full and the ex and his
>>>> GF moved on to her daughter's house after eating here. I might just get
>>>> some fruit and we can cut it up if necessary.
>>>
>>> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have
>>> brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more a
>>> matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.

>>
>> Either way, its the family get together that's more important than the
>> type of food or how much time is spent on making it special. Xmas can be
>> traumatic for a variety of reasons. We are absolutely stone broke this
>> Xmas but I am not depressed about it, as I know that we will get to do
>> Xmas, just not on Xmas Day . All family members have stated they are
>> not fussed about presents or a big Xmas spread etc. My one exception is
>> to fill a Santa bag and stocking for Jasmine.

>
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> dh and i haven't ever been on the whole gift thing and without kids it
> costs lots less, but staring at refurnishing a house is stress inducing,
> so even if i had all the money i have ever spent on holidays i would still
> be freaking, lol, Lee


My husband hasn't bought me anything for years. I used to buy for him but
it makes him angry so I no longer does. Angela does but it's just a little
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Well... I am surprised that I survived this day!

Some time ago we went into a new pet store in Edmonds and they had these
really nice cat scratching posts made of driftwood. Angela wanted to get
one for Ballerina and Jazzy but I didn't have the money then. I kept
putting it off. We were going to get one last week while at my parent's
house. They live in Edmonds but at the other end of the city from this
place. But then Angela was invited to a Bunco party that night so we didn't
have time to go there. I said we would go there today. But then...

I decided to assemble the towel holder that I ordered some time ago. I do
not have a proper linen closet. The person that designed this house during
the remodel was nuts. I have these two weird cupboards in my room that
aren't very useful for much of anything. I just use the lower one for
greeting cards (I always keep a supply onhand for those times when I need
one quickly) and presents for upcoming occasions. It's not big enough to
hold all of the Christmas presents this year. I didn't really get large
gifts but they won't all fit. It does hold the surprise ball. So picture
if you will something a little larger than a basketball. That's how
stupidly small the one cupboard is.

The cupboard above it will hold some linens but it isn't nearly big enough
for all our sheets, towels and extra blankets. Currently I only have
washcloths and hand towels in there. That's all that will fit! The bath
towels have been residing in a laundry basket and I am sick of that. So I
ordered a towel holder online. I waited and waited, only to have my order
cancelled. I then searched high and low for another one. Seems they are
not a common item. I found a nice, super expensive one but couldn't afford
it. Eventually found another one that was only a little more than I had
intended to pay for the first one.

The problem? They didn't give me any screws or nuts in the package. The
thing is made in China and I can't even remember now who I ordered it from.
I didn't want to wait the weeks it would take to find these people and try
to get screws and nuts from them. So that meant a trip to the hardware
store as well. Would have been fine but...

The only hardware store that was in Edmonds is no longer. According to what
I read online, their floor couldn't hold the weight and they were evacuating
after selling their stock at a 20% discount.

So that meant coming back out here. Either to Lowes in Mill Creek or Ace in
Everett. I opted for Ace because it is a much smaller store with perhaps
not better but quicker customer service and free popcorn!

Took us twice as long as normal to get to the pet store because of traffic.
But we did get to pet a nice huge tabby. Found the exact scratching post I
wanted. I had a dream about it the other night. Angela liked it too. Paid
for it. Picked it up and then knocked myself in the head with it. Saw some
stars. Angela said she would take it. She fared well until she got to the
door where she whacked it on the door frame. But it survived.

Started to drive back out this way. Traffic was just creeping! Start and
stop. Mainly stop. Our tummies began to rumble and my foot began to cramp.
I just kept thinking of the free popcorn. And the bathroom. They have one
in there.

Well by the time we got there they had cleaned the popcorn machine out for
the day. I should have demanded some because there is a sign boasting of
its freeness. They did have free coffee and water.

Used the bathroom then meandered around the screw aisle in a dither. Angela
actually found what were the correct screws but I couldn't figure it out.
Got a guy to help me. Turns out I would have needed him anyway because he
had to bag and label the items for me. Wasn't able to use my $10 off coupon
because I couldn't find anything else that we needed. Had to spend $50 to
get the discount. But I did get my military discount. Angela was mad
because she wanted food. I said I would buy her something if they had it,
but not candy. They had a little bit of food that wasn't candy but she was
either allergic or not interested. They did have a can of asparagus soup
that was self heating. Also tomato soup. They were $3.00. I didn't look
to see if she was allergic but she immediately turned up her nose so I
didn't. But I was rather interested to see how they heated up.

On to the grocery store for a few quick things then home for a quick dinner.
Then to assemble the towel holder.

This thing is made of metal and has decorative leaves in it. I can't tell
you how many times I klonked myself on the foot or the head with this thing.
Or how many times the leaves scraped my fingers. I tried to assemble it in
my computer chair. Then I realized there was no way I could do that. It
needed to be flat on the floor. Or so I thought. There were three posts
that went up the back. I would put them in. Ballerina would take them out.
Then Jazzy became interested and she too wanted to "help" me. I finally
had to call for Angela. I disliked having to do this because she isn't the
most willing participant when it comes to helping assemble things. But I
realized it was humanly impossible to have assembled this thing alone.
Perhaps an octopus could have done it. But they don't have fingers to grip
the screwdriver.

But it's finally done and in the bathroom. Now I just have to finish the
laundry so I can put the towels in. It had gotten to where I was washing
towels pretty much on an as needed basis because I didn't want to deal with
them!




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when we got together we were too poor, and when we have extra at christmas
we usually give it to a charity, Lee
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>> costs lots less, but staring at refurnishing a house is stress inducing,
>> so even if i had all the money i have ever spent on holidays i would
>> still be freaking, lol, Lee

>
> My husband hasn't bought me anything for years. I used to buy for him but
> it makes him angry so I no longer does. Angela does but it's just a
> little token thing.
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whew!!! i am so mechanically adept it boggles most people, good you got it
done, Lee
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>
> Well... I am surprised that I survived this day!
>
> Some time ago we went into a new pet store in Edmonds and they had these
> really nice cat scratching posts made of driftwood. Angela wanted to get
> one for Ballerina and Jazzy but I didn't have the money then. I kept
> putting it off. We were going to get one last week while at my parent's
> house. They live in Edmonds but at the other end of the city from this
> place. But then Angela was invited to a Bunco party that night so we
> didn't have time to go there. I said we would go there today. But
> then...
>
> I decided to assemble the towel holder that I ordered some time ago. I do
> not have a proper linen closet. The person that designed this house
> during the remodel was nuts. I have these two weird cupboards in my room
> that aren't very useful for much of anything. I just use the lower one
> for greeting cards (I always keep a supply onhand for those times when I
> need one quickly) and presents for upcoming occasions. It's not big
> enough to hold all of the Christmas presents this year. I didn't really
> get large gifts but they won't all fit. It does hold the surprise ball.
> So picture if you will something a little larger than a basketball.
> That's how stupidly small the one cupboard is.
>
> The cupboard above it will hold some linens but it isn't nearly big enough
> for all our sheets, towels and extra blankets. Currently I only have
> washcloths and hand towels in there. That's all that will fit! The bath
> towels have been residing in a laundry basket and I am sick of that. So I
> ordered a towel holder online. I waited and waited, only to have my order
> cancelled. I then searched high and low for another one. Seems they are
> not a common item. I found a nice, super expensive one but couldn't
> afford it. Eventually found another one that was only a little more than
> I had intended to pay for the first one.
>
> The problem? They didn't give me any screws or nuts in the package. The
> thing is made in China and I can't even remember now who I ordered it
> from. I didn't want to wait the weeks it would take to find these people
> and try to get screws and nuts from them. So that meant a trip to the
> hardware store as well. Would have been fine but...
>
> The only hardware store that was in Edmonds is no longer. According to
> what I read online, their floor couldn't hold the weight and they were
> evacuating after selling their stock at a 20% discount.
>
> So that meant coming back out here. Either to Lowes in Mill Creek or Ace
> in Everett. I opted for Ace because it is a much smaller store with
> perhaps not better but quicker customer service and free popcorn!
>
> Took us twice as long as normal to get to the pet store because of
> traffic. But we did get to pet a nice huge tabby. Found the exact
> scratching post I wanted. I had a dream about it the other night. Angela
> liked it too. Paid for it. Picked it up and then knocked myself in the
> head with it. Saw some stars. Angela said she would take it. She fared
> well until she got to the door where she whacked it on the door frame.
> But it survived.
>
> Started to drive back out this way. Traffic was just creeping! Start and
> stop. Mainly stop. Our tummies began to rumble and my foot began to
> cramp. I just kept thinking of the free popcorn. And the bathroom. They
> have one in there.
>
> Well by the time we got there they had cleaned the popcorn machine out for
> the day. I should have demanded some because there is a sign boasting of
> its freeness. They did have free coffee and water.
>
> Used the bathroom then meandered around the screw aisle in a dither.
> Angela actually found what were the correct screws but I couldn't figure
> it out. Got a guy to help me. Turns out I would have needed him anyway
> because he had to bag and label the items for me. Wasn't able to use my
> $10 off coupon because I couldn't find anything else that we needed. Had
> to spend $50 to get the discount. But I did get my military discount.
> Angela was mad because she wanted food. I said I would buy her something
> if they had it, but not candy. They had a little bit of food that wasn't
> candy but she was either allergic or not interested. They did have a can
> of asparagus soup that was self heating. Also tomato soup. They were
> $3.00. I didn't look to see if she was allergic but she immediately
> turned up her nose so I didn't. But I was rather interested to see how
> they heated up.
>
> On to the grocery store for a few quick things then home for a quick
> dinner. Then to assemble the towel holder.
>
> This thing is made of metal and has decorative leaves in it. I can't tell
> you how many times I klonked myself on the foot or the head with this
> thing. Or how many times the leaves scraped my fingers. I tried to
> assemble it in my computer chair. Then I realized there was no way I
> could do that. It needed to be flat on the floor. Or so I thought.
> There were three posts that went up the back. I would put them in.
> Ballerina would take them out. Then Jazzy became interested and she too
> wanted to "help" me. I finally had to call for Angela. I disliked having
> to do this because she isn't the most willing participant when it comes to
> helping assemble things. But I realized it was humanly impossible to have
> assembled this thing alone. Perhaps an octopus could have done it. But
> they don't have fingers to grip the screwdriver.
>
> But it's finally done and in the bathroom. Now I just have to finish the
> laundry so I can put the towels in. It had gotten to where I was washing
> towels pretty much on an as needed basis because I didn't want to deal
> with them!
>



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type OOO i meant inadept, or unadept, lol, Lee
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> done, Lee
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>> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>>>i lived, lol, Lee

>>
>> Well... I am surprised that I survived this day!
>>
>> Some time ago we went into a new pet store in Edmonds and they had these
>> really nice cat scratching posts made of driftwood. Angela wanted to get
>> one for Ballerina and Jazzy but I didn't have the money then. I kept
>> putting it off. We were going to get one last week while at my parent's
>> house. They live in Edmonds but at the other end of the city from this
>> place. But then Angela was invited to a Bunco party that night so we
>> didn't have time to go there. I said we would go there today. But
>> then...
>>
>> I decided to assemble the towel holder that I ordered some time ago. I
>> do not have a proper linen closet. The person that designed this house
>> during the remodel was nuts. I have these two weird cupboards in my room
>> that aren't very useful for much of anything. I just use the lower one
>> for greeting cards (I always keep a supply onhand for those times when I
>> need one quickly) and presents for upcoming occasions. It's not big
>> enough to hold all of the Christmas presents this year. I didn't really
>> get large gifts but they won't all fit. It does hold the surprise ball.
>> So picture if you will something a little larger than a basketball.
>> That's how stupidly small the one cupboard is.
>>
>> The cupboard above it will hold some linens but it isn't nearly big
>> enough for all our sheets, towels and extra blankets. Currently I only
>> have washcloths and hand towels in there. That's all that will fit! The
>> bath towels have been residing in a laundry basket and I am sick of that.
>> So I ordered a towel holder online. I waited and waited, only to have my
>> order cancelled. I then searched high and low for another one. Seems
>> they are not a common item. I found a nice, super expensive one but
>> couldn't afford it. Eventually found another one that was only a little
>> more than I had intended to pay for the first one.
>>
>> The problem? They didn't give me any screws or nuts in the package. The
>> thing is made in China and I can't even remember now who I ordered it
>> from. I didn't want to wait the weeks it would take to find these people
>> and try to get screws and nuts from them. So that meant a trip to the
>> hardware store as well. Would have been fine but...
>>
>> The only hardware store that was in Edmonds is no longer. According to
>> what I read online, their floor couldn't hold the weight and they were
>> evacuating after selling their stock at a 20% discount.
>>
>> So that meant coming back out here. Either to Lowes in Mill Creek or Ace
>> in Everett. I opted for Ace because it is a much smaller store with
>> perhaps not better but quicker customer service and free popcorn!
>>
>> Took us twice as long as normal to get to the pet store because of
>> traffic. But we did get to pet a nice huge tabby. Found the exact
>> scratching post I wanted. I had a dream about it the other night.
>> Angela liked it too. Paid for it. Picked it up and then knocked myself
>> in the head with it. Saw some stars. Angela said she would take it.
>> She fared well until she got to the door where she whacked it on the door
>> frame. But it survived.
>>
>> Started to drive back out this way. Traffic was just creeping! Start
>> and stop. Mainly stop. Our tummies began to rumble and my foot began to
>> cramp. I just kept thinking of the free popcorn. And the bathroom. They
>> have one in there.
>>
>> Well by the time we got there they had cleaned the popcorn machine out
>> for the day. I should have demanded some because there is a sign
>> boasting of its freeness. They did have free coffee and water.
>>
>> Used the bathroom then meandered around the screw aisle in a dither.
>> Angela actually found what were the correct screws but I couldn't figure
>> it out. Got a guy to help me. Turns out I would have needed him anyway
>> because he had to bag and label the items for me. Wasn't able to use my
>> $10 off coupon because I couldn't find anything else that we needed. Had
>> to spend $50 to get the discount. But I did get my military discount.
>> Angela was mad because she wanted food. I said I would buy her something
>> if they had it, but not candy. They had a little bit of food that wasn't
>> candy but she was either allergic or not interested. They did have a can
>> of asparagus soup that was self heating. Also tomato soup. They were
>> $3.00. I didn't look to see if she was allergic but she immediately
>> turned up her nose so I didn't. But I was rather interested to see how
>> they heated up.
>>
>> On to the grocery store for a few quick things then home for a quick
>> dinner. Then to assemble the towel holder.
>>
>> This thing is made of metal and has decorative leaves in it. I can't
>> tell you how many times I klonked myself on the foot or the head with
>> this thing. Or how many times the leaves scraped my fingers. I tried to
>> assemble it in my computer chair. Then I realized there was no way I
>> could do that. It needed to be flat on the floor. Or so I thought.
>> There were three posts that went up the back. I would put them in.
>> Ballerina would take them out. Then Jazzy became interested and she too
>> wanted to "help" me. I finally had to call for Angela. I disliked
>> having to do this because she isn't the most willing participant when it
>> comes to helping assemble things. But I realized it was humanly
>> impossible to have assembled this thing alone. Perhaps an octopus could
>> have done it. But they don't have fingers to grip the screwdriver.
>>
>> But it's finally done and in the bathroom. Now I just have to finish the
>> laundry so I can put the towels in. It had gotten to where I was washing
>> towels pretty much on an as needed basis because I didn't want to deal
>> with them!
>>

>
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> also could be he gets over excited, or another possiblity is denying his
> real condition, Lee


He does have an anxiety disorder and my mom said he would get set off just
by the fact that we were coming over. Scurrying around to empty the sink of
any dishes and take out the trash. Then he would worry and stew if we
didn't arrive when we said we would. I am a very bad judge of time and
because of the way traffic can be, it can take as little as 15 minutes or
like today as much as an hour to get to their house.

But also I know that my mom hates cooking. And it is next to impossible for
us to come up with one meal we will all eat. I come from a family of picky
eaters. Add in the food allergies that three of us have, lactose
intolerance by one person, then the other food restrictions due to various
medical problems and what do you have? A big old mess! What has happened
in the past is that my mom has cooked two or three meats hoping to have
something for each of us. Then we bring the sides and desserts. But we
wind up with waaaay too much food and people wind up overeating and feeling
unwell. Which I guess is pretty typical for a Christmas meal but something
we need to avoid.

Angela and I went to the store tonight to get the expensive chocolate
covered cherries that my mom loves. They no longer carry them. In fact
they cut back on most of the candy they sell. Now they mostly have the bulk
stuff or individual bars. So I opted instead for a small bag of bulk
chocolate "rocks". They are small and remind me of fish tank gravel.
Everyone likes them and if one applies restraint one can have just a taste
and not overdo. I also got two kinds of gluten free cookies for Angela.
She couldn't make up her mind and I just wanted to go home and eat dinner so
I threw both kinds in the cart. And a very small bag of Walker's mini
shortbread. I think 6 of them had 18g of carb. I might be off on the carb
count. I don't remember exactly. Anyway I figured if I wanted to eat one,
then I could do that and it wouldn't be an overload of carbs.

But was this enough for my mom? No. She told me to bring some cookies for
the others. To which I replied, "Are you sure? In the past I have brought
cookies and nobody ate them!" Angela remembered it too. They had really
beautiful seasonal cookies at Central Market but when I looked at them she
told me not to even think about it because they wouldn't get eaten. I'm
thinking maybe I will get some sort of cheapish prepackaged cookies. Then
at least I won't lose so much money!


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> when we got together we were too poor, and when we have extra at christmas
> we usually give it to a charity, Lee


My husband used to give a lot to charity before we were married. We had a
food drive at work and he donated 2 whole shopping carts full of food. The
woman running the thing was stunned!

I wasn't able to give as much this year as I normally do. We gave some food
at Thanksgiving, mainly coupon items that we can not eat. Then $25 to
Albertsons to go to the food bank. Angela found $21 over the course of two
days. Some in a parking lot and some on the floor of another grocery store.
It upset her badly that she couldn't find the owner so I said we would
donate it. I added the rest.

We gave twice to Toys For Tots but the only food I've been able to donate
besides a lot of cat food was a box of crackers that I got for free with a
coupon.

I told Angela, "We are the poor this year!"




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> what a great attitude, when i was a kid there were a few years where
> parents didn't have a lot of money, so daddy would present us with a list
> of things to choose from and we all got one family gift, the only one i
> remember is the year we choose the pool table... pricey if purchased, but
> my dad went to a pool supply house and bought felt, slate cups, and
> accessories, and built the actual table, i was little enough i let older
> brother talk me into it not having a clue what it was... its now living in
> the basement at my moms and is over fourty years old and in great
> condition because he has replaced the felt and rubbers a few times. Lee


I didn't realize it when I was a kid but most of what Santa gave us were
necessary items. Pajamas, maybe a robe, always socks and underwear. Once
in a while I would get a new dress and my brother would usually get pants
and a shirt. Toothbrushes in our stockings.

When Angela was little she always expected Santa to put things in all of our
stockings. For mine I would either buy things that I knew I would be
needing or I would find extras of things around the house and just put them
in there. She never knew. She just thought Santa did a good job of giving
me what I needed!


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that is very good for angela, to let her know that giving can still be done
even if you are using coupons to get free things to donate, you still do the
work to use the coupon and get it to the food bank, Lee
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>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>> when we got together we were too poor, and when we have extra at
>> christmas we usually give it to a charity, Lee

>
> My husband used to give a lot to charity before we were married. We had a
> food drive at work and he donated 2 whole shopping carts full of food.
> The woman running the thing was stunned!
>
> I wasn't able to give as much this year as I normally do. We gave some
> food at Thanksgiving, mainly coupon items that we can not eat. Then $25
> to Albertsons to go to the food bank. Angela found $21 over the course of
> two days. Some in a parking lot and some on the floor of another grocery
> store. It upset her badly that she couldn't find the owner so I said we
> would donate it. I added the rest.
>
> We gave twice to Toys For Tots but the only food I've been able to donate
> besides a lot of cat food was a box of crackers that I got for free with a
> coupon.
>
> I told Angela, "We are the poor this year!"
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> type OOO i meant inadept, or unadept, lol, Lee


Heh!


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> that is very good for angela, to let her know that giving can still be
> done even if you are using coupons to get free things to donate, you still
> do the work to use the coupon and get it to the food bank, Lee


Yes. We get a lot of coupons we can't use and also store coupons on
occasion for free things we can't eat. And apparently there is a huge need
for cat food this year. We saw a cat food donation bin today. I tried to
find one last year and couldn't. Nice to know that the regular food bank
will take it. I stocked up on food the other day and screwed up as to the
kind I bought. They will only eat tuna and only certain kinds. I bought
the wrong kind and they wouldn't touch it. So it went off to the food bank
along with the BG kind. I really thought they would like that!


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so many people are struggling and somebody at food banks finally figured out
that people could keep their pets and feed them if they took donations,
without that people either surrender their animals or use food they could be
eating to give to the animals, which helps nobody's nutrition... don't get
me wrong, if your animals will ea t leftovers and they are otherwise healthy
it doesn't hurt a single thing to supplement say a dog or cat with mashed
potatoes and gravy if they will eat it, but that should only be a
supplement, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>> that is very good for angela, to let her know that giving can still be
>> done even if you are using coupons to get free things to donate, you
>> still do the work to use the coupon and get it to the food bank, Lee

>
> Yes. We get a lot of coupons we can't use and also store coupons on
> occasion for free things we can't eat. And apparently there is a huge
> need for cat food this year. We saw a cat food donation bin today. I
> tried to find one last year and couldn't. Nice to know that the regular
> food bank will take it. I stocked up on food the other day and screwed up
> as to the kind I bought. They will only eat tuna and only certain kinds.
> I bought the wrong kind and they wouldn't touch it. So it went off to the
> food bank along with the BG kind. I really thought they would like that!
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> so many people are struggling and somebody at food banks finally figured
> out that people could keep their pets and feed them if they took
> donations, without that people either surrender their animals or use food
> they could be eating to give to the animals, which helps nobody's
> nutrition... don't get me wrong, if your animals will ea t leftovers and
> they are otherwise healthy it doesn't hurt a single thing to supplement
> say a dog or cat with mashed potatoes and gravy if they will eat it, but
> that should only be a supplement, Lee


Except if there's onions in there. Funny thing is in the old days that is
all the animals got. There was no pet food.

Maui LOVED mashed potatoes. That was one of her favorite foods. The two
cats we have now don't seem to recognize human food as being edible to them.
I have tried to feed them meat. They won't have it. But Ballerina has
shown interest occasionally in what Angela is eating. She will look excited
and sniff it. But they never beg like Maui did. Heck, she would just hit
me with her paw until I gave her what she wanted.


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When my kids were young the stress was enormous. How can Santa let down
a little kid? I always laybyed stuff earlier in the year. Layby's are
generally only about 6 weeks but for toys they can be 6-8 months which
is a huge help. 5 of my kids are adults and one is about to turn 17, so
that leaves Jasmine who will be intellectually young forever. She is
going on 16 but today I went out and bought her toys The others are
happy enough to wait for a Xmas a few months down the track.

"Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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> what a great attitude, when i was a kid there were a few years where
> parents didn't have a lot of money, so daddy would present us with a
> list of things to choose from and we all got one family gift, the only
> one i remember is the year we choose the pool table... pricey if
> purchased, but my dad went to a pool supply house and bought felt,
> slate cups, and accessories, and built the actual table, i was little
> enough i let older brother talk me into it not having a clue what it
> was... its now living in the basement at my moms and is over fourty
> years old and in great condition because he has replaced the felt and
> rubbers a few times. Lee
> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
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>>
>>
>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can
>>>> have something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young
>>>> friends and their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ
>>>> but they are just bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for
>>>> themselves and my boys can get what they want. My ex did say his
>>>> girlfriend will bring a ham and some cooked chickens over Christmas
>>>> Day so probably throw a salad together if they stay, which they
>>>> probably will. We had dessert lined up last year and no one ate any
>>>> as we were too full and the ex and his GF moved on to her
>>>> daughter's house after eating here. I might just get some fruit and
>>>> we can cut it up if necessary.
>>>
>>> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to
>>> have brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it
>>> is more a matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be
>>> wrong.

>>
>> Either way, its the family get together that's more important than
>> the type of food or how much time is spent on making it special. Xmas
>> can be traumatic for a variety of reasons. We are absolutely stone
>> broke this Xmas but I am not depressed about it, as I know that we
>> will get to do Xmas, just not on Xmas Day . All family members have
>> stated they are not fussed about presents or a big Xmas spread etc.
>> My one exception is to fill a Santa bag and stocking for Jasmine.

>
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until the late fourties there were no commerical pet foods at all, iirc...
My grandfather raised hunting dogs of differing kinds, my grandmother had a
milk cow, and made all manner of bread from sourdough and corn meal, there
were buckets that the food was put in, and she fed them in a tractor tire
that was cut in half in the yard, she would put the scraps/leftovers down,
then cover with the oldest milk, Lee
"Julie Bove" > wrote in message
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>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>> so many people are struggling and somebody at food banks finally figured
>> out that people could keep their pets and feed them if they took
>> donations, without that people either surrender their animals or use food
>> they could be eating to give to the animals, which helps nobody's
>> nutrition... don't get me wrong, if your animals will ea t leftovers and
>> they are otherwise healthy it doesn't hurt a single thing to supplement
>> say a dog or cat with mashed potatoes and gravy if they will eat it, but
>> that should only be a supplement, Lee

>
> Except if there's onions in there. Funny thing is in the old days that is
> all the animals got. There was no pet food.
>
> Maui LOVED mashed potatoes. That was one of her favorite foods. The two
> cats we have now don't seem to recognize human food as being edible to
> them. I have tried to feed them meat. They won't have it. But Ballerina
> has shown interest occasionally in what Angela is eating. She will look
> excited and sniff it. But they never beg like Maui did. Heck, she would
> just hit me with her paw until I gave her what she wanted.
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> When my kids were young the stress was enormous. How can Santa let down a
> little kid? I always laybyed stuff earlier in the year. Layby's are
> generally only about 6 weeks but for toys they can be 6-8 months which is
> a huge help. 5 of my kids are adults and one is about to turn 17, so that
> leaves Jasmine who will be intellectually young forever. She is going on
> 16 but today I went out and bought her toys The others are happy enough
> to wait for a Xmas a few months down the track.


Even though Angela has pretty much outgrown toys, I still feel like I should
get her some. I got a few little things for the stocking. And I got her a
thingie that talks. It's a therapist. Makes comments to you in kind of a
smart assed way. I figured she would like that.


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you have obiosly raised your children correctly owing to the fact they are
willing to wait and are supporting you with jasmine... btw i think of you
every time one of the cleaning staff comes to do our room... they are
variying levels of adulthood and comptence, and several will have permanent
job coaches, but they are all almost with some level of mental/intellectual
handicap Lee
"Ozgirl" > wrote in message
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> When my kids were young the stress was enormous. How can Santa let down a
> little kid? I always laybyed stuff earlier in the year. Layby's are
> generally only about 6 weeks but for toys they can be 6-8 months which is
> a huge help. 5 of my kids are adults and one is about to turn 17, so that
> leaves Jasmine who will be intellectually young forever. She is going on
> 16 but today I went out and bought her toys The others are happy enough
> to wait for a Xmas a few months down the track.
>
> "Storrmmee" > wrote in message
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>> what a great attitude, when i was a kid there were a few years where
>> parents didn't have a lot of money, so daddy would present us with a list
>> of things to choose from and we all got one family gift, the only one i
>> remember is the year we choose the pool table... pricey if purchased, but
>> my dad went to a pool supply house and bought felt, slate cups, and
>> accessories, and built the actual table, i was little enough i let older
>> brother talk me into it not having a clue what it was... its now living
>> in the basement at my moms and is over fourty years old and in great
>> condition because he has replaced the felt and rubbers a few times. Lee
>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> "Julie Bove" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> "Ozgirl" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> No plans. We are postponing Christmas for a few months so we can have
>>>>> something decent rather than half-arsed. I believe some young friends
>>>>> and their toddler are coming over Christmas Eve for a BBQ but they are
>>>>> just bringing a bit of meat and whatevers for themselves and my boys
>>>>> can get what they want. My ex did say his girlfriend will bring a ham
>>>>> and some cooked chickens over Christmas Day so probably throw a salad
>>>>> together if they stay, which they probably will. We had dessert lined
>>>>> up last year and no one ate any as we were too full and the ex and his
>>>>> GF moved on to her daughter's house after eating here. I might just
>>>>> get some fruit and we can cut it up if necessary.
>>>>
>>>> My mom seems to have an idea that holidays are causing my dad to have
>>>> brain bleeds. So we have to minimize what we do. I think it is more a
>>>> matter of her not wanting to do much. But I could be wrong.
>>>
>>> Either way, its the family get together that's more important than the
>>> type of food or how much time is spent on making it special. Xmas can be
>>> traumatic for a variety of reasons. We are absolutely stone broke this
>>> Xmas but I am not depressed about it, as I know that we will get to do
>>> Xmas, just not on Xmas Day . All family members have stated they are
>>> not fussed about presents or a big Xmas spread etc. My one exception is
>>> to fill a Santa bag and stocking for Jasmine.

>>
>>



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