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HELP! Stove Keeps Flashing and Beeping "F1"



 
 
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Old 20-06-2004, 12:13 AM
Jordan Zimmer
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Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We own
a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last
night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen. Upon
closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove was
flashing "F1". We tried unplugging the stove, resetting the clock, but
nothing worked. It's still doing it, and is starting to drive us a little
crazy! I think I'm just going to unplug the stove for the rest of the night.
Needless to say, we ordered take-out... The burners on the range still seem
functional, but we cannot get the oven to come on, as the touchpad isn't
responding to any of our commands. It just keeps beeping and flashing.
There are no repair centers open around here on the weekends, so I have to
wait until Monday at the earliest before calling someone to come over. Does
anyone know what the problem might be? We've had no complaints or problems
with the stove until last night. Any advice is much appreciated!


Jordan



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Old 20-06-2004, 04:19 AM
Vox Humana
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"Jordan Zimmer" wrote in message
. ..
Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We

own
a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last
night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen.

Upon
closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove

was
flashing "F1". We tried unplugging the stove, resetting the clock, but
nothing worked. It's still doing it, and is starting to drive us a little
crazy! I think I'm just going to unplug the stove for the rest of the

night.
Needless to say, we ordered take-out... The burners on the range still

seem
functional, but we cannot get the oven to come on, as the touchpad isn't
responding to any of our commands. It just keeps beeping and flashing.
There are no repair centers open around here on the weekends, so I have to
wait until Monday at the earliest before calling someone to come over.

Does
anyone know what the problem might be? We've had no complaints or

problems
with the stove until last night. Any advice is much appreciated!


You can find an explanation of Frigidaire fault codes he
http://www.repairclinic.com/0078.asp#Frigidaire

The F1 code seems to be a very common fault code that means the electronic
oven controller is shot. Sometimes it means there is a communications error
between various boards or that the temperature sensor is faulty. Chances are
that you are looking at a $200-$300 oven controller board plus labor if you
aren't going to replace it yourself. Hopefully your unit is still under
warranty.


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Old 20-06-2004, 04:21 AM
Vox Humana
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"Jordan Zimmer" wrote in message
. ..
Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We

own
a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last
night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen.

Upon
closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove

was
flashing "F1". We tried unplugging the stove, resetting the clock, but
nothing worked. It's still doing it, and is starting to drive us a little
crazy! I think I'm just going to unplug the stove for the rest of the

night.
Needless to say, we ordered take-out... The burners on the range still

seem
functional, but we cannot get the oven to come on, as the touchpad isn't
responding to any of our commands. It just keeps beeping and flashing.
There are no repair centers open around here on the weekends, so I have to
wait until Monday at the earliest before calling someone to come over.

Does
anyone know what the problem might be? We've had no complaints or

problems
with the stove until last night. Any advice is much appreciated!


I forgot to add, you can try to reboot your oven and see if the code will
cancel. Turn off the circuit breaker or unplug the range for about 20
minutes. When you restore the power the code will probably be gone. Don't
assume that the problem is fixed because it will likely reoccur.


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Old 20-06-2004, 05:21 AM
Brad
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Hi Jordan. I hate to say it, but Vox is correct. Your oven controller,
what my father refers to as the "ERC" (electronic range control), is
defective and must be replaced. The repair bill might shock you too! Do
you know approximately how old the range is? My dad services and repairs
major appliances. He is authorized by most of the major manufacturers to
carry out the warranty work too. He personally has replaced more ERC's than
he cares to admit. As a matter of fact, I remember him saying that almost
80% of his service calls for ranges involve the ERC. (The F1 fault code your
stove is displaying) Most only last for about 3-5 years and basically burn
out. The repair bill typically runs from around $250-400, depending on the
design. Unlike standard dial controls, which can be repaired, electronic
controls must be ENTIRELY replaced. Most are hermetically sealed and
opening them up will destroy the casing, so it's pointless. Unfortunately,
everything seems to be going electronic in the home appliance department.
Hope this helps you out somewhat... Good luck, and let us know how things
turn out!




"Jordan Zimmer" wrote in message
. ..
Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We

own
a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last
night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen.

Upon
closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove

was
flashing "F1". We tried unplugging the stove, resetting the clock, but
nothing worked. It's still doing it, and is starting to drive us a little
crazy! I think I'm just going to unplug the stove for the rest of the

night.
Needless to say, we ordered take-out... The burners on the range still

seem
functional, but we cannot get the oven to come on, as the touchpad isn't
responding to any of our commands. It just keeps beeping and flashing.
There are no repair centers open around here on the weekends, so I have to
wait until Monday at the earliest before calling someone to come over.

Does
anyone know what the problem might be? We've had no complaints or

problems
with the stove until last night. Any advice is much appreciated!


Jordan





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Old 20-06-2004, 03:43 PM
Vox Humana
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Default HELP! Stove Keeps Flashing and Beeping "F1"


"Brad" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Jordan. I hate to say it, but Vox is correct. Your oven controller,
what my father refers to as the "ERC" (electronic range control), is
defective and must be replaced. The repair bill might shock you too! Do
you know approximately how old the range is? My dad services and repairs
major appliances. He is authorized by most of the major manufacturers to
carry out the warranty work too. He personally has replaced more ERC's

than
he cares to admit. As a matter of fact, I remember him saying that almost
80% of his service calls for ranges involve the ERC. (The F1 fault code

your
stove is displaying) Most only last for about 3-5 years and basically

burn
out. The repair bill typically runs from around $250-400, depending on the
design. Unlike standard dial controls, which can be repaired, electronic
controls must be ENTIRELY replaced. Most are hermetically sealed and
opening them up will destroy the casing, so it's pointless.

Unfortunately,
everything seems to be going electronic in the home appliance department.
Hope this helps you out somewhat... Good luck, and let us know how things
turn out!


I had to replace mine when it was about 5-6 years old. It wasn't a job that
required a lot of skill, but since I was not familiar with the range, it
took a while to accomplish. The worst part was keeping track of the couple
dozen wires, many of the same color. I took pictures of the unit before I
disconnected it and also made a diagram and labeled some of the wires.
Still, I neglected to connect a small harness that went to the oven door
lock motor and the range wouldn't go into clean mode. I figured that out
after a few tries and quickly corrected the problem. The OP can get an idea
of the cost of the part at the link that I provided. I would estimate about
two hours of labor to replace it since the range will have to be pulled and
the controller located and removed. Unless the tech happens to have the
part in stock on his truck, I would count on two visits (one to diagnose and
one to repair).


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Old 20-06-2004, 03:49 PM
Chris Webster
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Default HELP! Stove Keeps Flashing and Beeping "F1"

Jordan Zimmer wrote:
Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We own
a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last
night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen. Upon
closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove was
flashing "F1".


Did you try CTRLALTDEL ?

--Chris

sorry, couldn't resist.
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Old 20-06-2004, 04:27 PM
Big-Uns
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Default HELP! Stove Keeps Flashing and Beeping "F1"

The poor stove is crying for HELP

Push F1 on you computer to see..............



Jordan Zimmer wrote:
Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We own
a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last
night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen. Upon
closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove was
flashing "F1". We tried unplugging the stove, resetting the clock, but
nothing worked. It's still doing it, and is starting to drive us a little
crazy! I think I'm just going to unplug the stove for the rest of the night.
Needless to say, we ordered take-out... The burners on the range still seem
functional, but we cannot get the oven to come on, as the touchpad isn't
responding to any of our commands. It just keeps beeping and flashing.
There are no repair centers open around here on the weekends, so I have to
wait until Monday at the earliest before calling someone to come over. Does
anyone know what the problem might be? We've had no complaints or problems
with the stove until last night. Any advice is much appreciated!


Jordan




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Old 20-06-2004, 06:21 PM
DawnK
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Default HELP! Stove Keeps Flashing and Beeping "F1"


"Vox Humana" wrote in message
...

"Brad" wrote in message
. ..
Hi Jordan. I hate to say it, but Vox is correct. Your oven controller,
what my father refers to as the "ERC" (electronic range control), is
defective and must be replaced. The repair bill might shock you too!

Do
you know approximately how old the range is? My dad services and

repairs
major appliances. He is authorized by most of the major manufacturers

to
carry out the warranty work too. He personally has replaced more ERC's

than
he cares to admit. As a matter of fact, I remember him saying that

almost
80% of his service calls for ranges involve the ERC. (The F1 fault code

your
stove is displaying) Most only last for about 3-5 years and basically

burn
out. The repair bill typically runs from around $250-400, depending on

the
design. Unlike standard dial controls, which can be repaired, electronic
controls must be ENTIRELY replaced. Most are hermetically sealed and
opening them up will destroy the casing, so it's pointless.

Unfortunately,
everything seems to be going electronic in the home appliance

department.
Hope this helps you out somewhat... Good luck, and let us know how

things
turn out!


I had to replace mine when it was about 5-6 years old. It wasn't a job

that
required a lot of skill, but since I was not familiar with the range, it
took a while to accomplish. The worst part was keeping track of the

couple
dozen wires, many of the same color. I took pictures of the unit before I
disconnected it and also made a diagram and labeled some of the wires.
Still, I neglected to connect a small harness that went to the oven door
lock motor and the range wouldn't go into clean mode. I figured that out
after a few tries and quickly corrected the problem. The OP can get an

idea
of the cost of the part at the link that I provided. I would estimate

about
two hours of labor to replace it since the range will have to be pulled

and
the controller located and removed. Unless the tech happens to have the
part in stock on his truck, I would count on two visits (one to diagnose

and
one to repair).



Oh yay, so I get this to look forward to on my 2yo Frigidaire range, huh?

Dawn


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Old 20-06-2004, 06:30 PM
Brad
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Default HELP! Stove Keeps Flashing and Beeping "F1"

Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might
fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10 year
mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have been
less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial controls
of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among the
brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst).
Keep your fingers crossed though. If it makes it past the 2 year mark
without any problems, chances are it'll go for another 2-3 years. Good
luck!



Oh yay, so I get this to look forward to on my 2yo Frigidaire range, huh?

Dawn



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Old 20-06-2004, 06:31 PM
Brad
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Default HELP! Stove Keeps Flashing and Beeping "F1"

LOL! Cute. If only it were that easy! ;-)


"Chris Webster" wrote in message
...
Jordan Zimmer wrote:
Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We

own
a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM

last
night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen.

Upon
closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove

was
flashing "F1".


Did you try CTRLALTDEL ?

--Chris

sorry, couldn't resist.



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Old 20-06-2004, 07:53 PM
Charles Demas
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Default HELP! Stove Keeps Flashing and Beeping "F1"

In article ,
Brad wrote:
Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might
fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10 year
mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have been
less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial controls
of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among the
brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst).


That probably happened as a result of the Fridgidaire line being
sold to White Westinghouse by General Motors (many years ago).


Chuck Demas

--
Eat Healthy | _ _ | Nothing would be done at all,
Stay Fit | @ @ | If a man waited to do it so well,
Die Anyway | v | That no one could find fault with it.
| \___/ | http://world.std.com/~cpd
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Old 20-06-2004, 08:04 PM
DawnK
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"Brad" wrote in message
...
Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might
fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10

year
mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have been
less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial controls
of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among the
brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst).
Keep your fingers crossed though. If it makes it past the 2 year mark
without any problems, chances are it'll go for another 2-3 years. Good
luck!



Oh yay, so I get this to look forward to on my 2yo Frigidaire range,

huh?

Dawn




I'll keep my fingers crossed. It's the only Frigidaire appliance we have.

Dawn


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Old 20-06-2004, 10:52 PM
Vox Humana
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"Charles Demas" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Brad wrote:
Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might
fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10

year
mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have

been
less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial

controls
of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among

the
brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst).


That probably happened as a result of the Fridgidaire line being
sold to White Westinghouse by General Motors (many years ago).


I sure looks like Frigidaire front loading washers are made by GE. I have
also seen Frigidaire appliances stamped "Frigidaire brand by Electrolux."


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Old 20-06-2004, 11:24 PM
Charles Demas
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In article ,
Vox Humana wrote:

"Charles Demas" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Brad wrote:
Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might
fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10

year
mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have

been
less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial

controls
of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among

the
brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst).


That probably happened as a result of the Fridgidaire line being
sold to White Westinghouse by General Motors (many years ago).


I sure looks like Frigidaire front loading washers are made by GE. I have
also seen Frigidaire appliances stamped "Frigidaire brand by Electrolux."


Maybe there have been other sales since General Motors sold the
line/name.


Chuck Demas

--
Eat Healthy | _ _ | Nothing would be done at all,
Stay Fit | @ @ | If a man waited to do it so well,
Die Anyway | v | That no one could find fault with it.
| \___/ | http://world.std.com/~cpd
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Old 21-06-2004, 12:40 AM
Brad
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Default HELP! Stove Keeps Flashing and Beeping "F1"

I understand your frustration completely. The bottom line is that we live
in a "throw-away" society. Most people would rather buy a new appliance
rather than have the old one fixed. This is especially true if the cost of
the repair exceeds what the appliance is worth. (especially with regards to
the ERC, which is an expensive part). My father said that as a rule of
thumb, you can count on appliances lasting anywhere from 5 to 12 years, with
most falling somewhere in between that timeline. Appliance manufacturers
are putting less quality into their products because we, as consumers, have
demanded cheaper merchandise. In other words, it's "planned obsolecense"
meaning that they are made that way for a reason. I remember dad saying
that he's replaced condenser and compressors on fridges that were only 3
years old! He was once called out to replace a bad defrost timer on a
brand-new Maytag that had just been delivered! Part of the problem too, is
that a lot of these companies are using parts from Mexico and other places,
and needless to say, it's complete junk. When buying a major appliance, try
sticking with anything made by Whirlpool. Stay clear of G.E., Frigidaire,
Asko, certain Maytag appliances, and all those "bargain basement" names I'm
sure we've all seen at one point or another. It's a shame that it's come
down to this, but that's the truth. Heck, most manufacturers won't even
guarantee parts availability anymore if the appliance is over 5 years old!
Like I said, it's planned obsolecense. Gone are the days when a washer and
dryer, fridge and stove would last you 20 years! Sad.



"DawnK" wrote in message
...

"Brad" wrote in message
...
Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might
fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10

year
mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have

been
less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial

controls
of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among

the
brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst).
Keep your fingers crossed though. If it makes it past the 2 year mark
without any problems, chances are it'll go for another 2-3 years. Good
luck!



Oh yay, so I get this to look forward to on my 2yo Frigidaire range,

huh?

Dawn




I'll keep my fingers crossed. It's the only Frigidaire appliance we have.

Dawn




 




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