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Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We own
a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen. Upon closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove was flashing "F1". We tried unplugging the stove, resetting the clock, but nothing worked. It's still doing it, and is starting to drive us a little crazy! I think I'm just going to unplug the stove for the rest of the night. Needless to say, we ordered take-out... The burners on the range still seem functional, but we cannot get the oven to come on, as the touchpad isn't responding to any of our commands. It just keeps beeping and flashing. There are no repair centers open around here on the weekends, so I have to wait until Monday at the earliest before calling someone to come over. Does anyone know what the problem might be? We've had no complaints or problems with the stove until last night. Any advice is much appreciated! Jordan |
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"Jordan Zimmer" wrote in message . .. Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We own a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen. Upon closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove was flashing "F1". We tried unplugging the stove, resetting the clock, but nothing worked. It's still doing it, and is starting to drive us a little crazy! I think I'm just going to unplug the stove for the rest of the night. Needless to say, we ordered take-out... The burners on the range still seem functional, but we cannot get the oven to come on, as the touchpad isn't responding to any of our commands. It just keeps beeping and flashing. There are no repair centers open around here on the weekends, so I have to wait until Monday at the earliest before calling someone to come over. Does anyone know what the problem might be? We've had no complaints or problems with the stove until last night. Any advice is much appreciated! You can find an explanation of Frigidaire fault codes he http://www.repairclinic.com/0078.asp#Frigidaire The F1 code seems to be a very common fault code that means the electronic oven controller is shot. Sometimes it means there is a communications error between various boards or that the temperature sensor is faulty. Chances are that you are looking at a $200-$300 oven controller board plus labor if you aren't going to replace it yourself. Hopefully your unit is still under warranty. |
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"Jordan Zimmer" wrote in message . .. Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We own a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen. Upon closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove was flashing "F1". We tried unplugging the stove, resetting the clock, but nothing worked. It's still doing it, and is starting to drive us a little crazy! I think I'm just going to unplug the stove for the rest of the night. Needless to say, we ordered take-out... The burners on the range still seem functional, but we cannot get the oven to come on, as the touchpad isn't responding to any of our commands. It just keeps beeping and flashing. There are no repair centers open around here on the weekends, so I have to wait until Monday at the earliest before calling someone to come over. Does anyone know what the problem might be? We've had no complaints or problems with the stove until last night. Any advice is much appreciated! I forgot to add, you can try to reboot your oven and see if the code will cancel. Turn off the circuit breaker or unplug the range for about 20 minutes. When you restore the power the code will probably be gone. Don't assume that the problem is fixed because it will likely reoccur. |
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Hi Jordan. I hate to say it, but Vox is correct. Your oven controller,
what my father refers to as the "ERC" (electronic range control), is defective and must be replaced. The repair bill might shock you too! Do you know approximately how old the range is? My dad services and repairs major appliances. He is authorized by most of the major manufacturers to carry out the warranty work too. He personally has replaced more ERC's than he cares to admit. As a matter of fact, I remember him saying that almost 80% of his service calls for ranges involve the ERC. (The F1 fault code your stove is displaying) Most only last for about 3-5 years and basically burn out. The repair bill typically runs from around $250-400, depending on the design. Unlike standard dial controls, which can be repaired, electronic controls must be ENTIRELY replaced. Most are hermetically sealed and opening them up will destroy the casing, so it's pointless. Unfortunately, everything seems to be going electronic in the home appliance department. Hope this helps you out somewhat... Good luck, and let us know how things turn out! "Jordan Zimmer" wrote in message . .. Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We own a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen. Upon closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove was flashing "F1". We tried unplugging the stove, resetting the clock, but nothing worked. It's still doing it, and is starting to drive us a little crazy! I think I'm just going to unplug the stove for the rest of the night. Needless to say, we ordered take-out... The burners on the range still seem functional, but we cannot get the oven to come on, as the touchpad isn't responding to any of our commands. It just keeps beeping and flashing. There are no repair centers open around here on the weekends, so I have to wait until Monday at the earliest before calling someone to come over. Does anyone know what the problem might be? We've had no complaints or problems with the stove until last night. Any advice is much appreciated! Jordan |
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"Brad" wrote in message . .. Hi Jordan. I hate to say it, but Vox is correct. Your oven controller, what my father refers to as the "ERC" (electronic range control), is defective and must be replaced. The repair bill might shock you too! Do you know approximately how old the range is? My dad services and repairs major appliances. He is authorized by most of the major manufacturers to carry out the warranty work too. He personally has replaced more ERC's than he cares to admit. As a matter of fact, I remember him saying that almost 80% of his service calls for ranges involve the ERC. (The F1 fault code your stove is displaying) Most only last for about 3-5 years and basically burn out. The repair bill typically runs from around $250-400, depending on the design. Unlike standard dial controls, which can be repaired, electronic controls must be ENTIRELY replaced. Most are hermetically sealed and opening them up will destroy the casing, so it's pointless. Unfortunately, everything seems to be going electronic in the home appliance department. Hope this helps you out somewhat... Good luck, and let us know how things turn out! I had to replace mine when it was about 5-6 years old. It wasn't a job that required a lot of skill, but since I was not familiar with the range, it took a while to accomplish. The worst part was keeping track of the couple dozen wires, many of the same color. I took pictures of the unit before I disconnected it and also made a diagram and labeled some of the wires. Still, I neglected to connect a small harness that went to the oven door lock motor and the range wouldn't go into clean mode. I figured that out after a few tries and quickly corrected the problem. The OP can get an idea of the cost of the part at the link that I provided. I would estimate about two hours of labor to replace it since the range will have to be pulled and the controller located and removed. Unless the tech happens to have the part in stock on his truck, I would count on two visits (one to diagnose and one to repair). |
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Jordan Zimmer wrote:
Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We own a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen. Upon closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove was flashing "F1". Did you try CTRLALTDEL ? --Chris sorry, couldn't resist. |
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The poor stove is crying for HELP
Push F1 on you computer to see.............. Jordan Zimmer wrote: Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We own a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen. Upon closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove was flashing "F1". We tried unplugging the stove, resetting the clock, but nothing worked. It's still doing it, and is starting to drive us a little crazy! I think I'm just going to unplug the stove for the rest of the night. Needless to say, we ordered take-out... The burners on the range still seem functional, but we cannot get the oven to come on, as the touchpad isn't responding to any of our commands. It just keeps beeping and flashing. There are no repair centers open around here on the weekends, so I have to wait until Monday at the earliest before calling someone to come over. Does anyone know what the problem might be? We've had no complaints or problems with the stove until last night. Any advice is much appreciated! Jordan |
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"Vox Humana" wrote in message ... "Brad" wrote in message . .. Hi Jordan. I hate to say it, but Vox is correct. Your oven controller, what my father refers to as the "ERC" (electronic range control), is defective and must be replaced. The repair bill might shock you too! Do you know approximately how old the range is? My dad services and repairs major appliances. He is authorized by most of the major manufacturers to carry out the warranty work too. He personally has replaced more ERC's than he cares to admit. As a matter of fact, I remember him saying that almost 80% of his service calls for ranges involve the ERC. (The F1 fault code your stove is displaying) Most only last for about 3-5 years and basically burn out. The repair bill typically runs from around $250-400, depending on the design. Unlike standard dial controls, which can be repaired, electronic controls must be ENTIRELY replaced. Most are hermetically sealed and opening them up will destroy the casing, so it's pointless. Unfortunately, everything seems to be going electronic in the home appliance department. Hope this helps you out somewhat... Good luck, and let us know how things turn out! I had to replace mine when it was about 5-6 years old. It wasn't a job that required a lot of skill, but since I was not familiar with the range, it took a while to accomplish. The worst part was keeping track of the couple dozen wires, many of the same color. I took pictures of the unit before I disconnected it and also made a diagram and labeled some of the wires. Still, I neglected to connect a small harness that went to the oven door lock motor and the range wouldn't go into clean mode. I figured that out after a few tries and quickly corrected the problem. The OP can get an idea of the cost of the part at the link that I provided. I would estimate about two hours of labor to replace it since the range will have to be pulled and the controller located and removed. Unless the tech happens to have the part in stock on his truck, I would count on two visits (one to diagnose and one to repair). Oh yay, so I get this to look forward to on my 2yo Frigidaire range, huh? Dawn |
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Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might
fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10 year mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have been less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial controls of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among the brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst). Keep your fingers crossed though. If it makes it past the 2 year mark without any problems, chances are it'll go for another 2-3 years. Good luck! Oh yay, so I get this to look forward to on my 2yo Frigidaire range, huh? Dawn |
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LOL! Cute. If only it were that easy! ;-)
"Chris Webster" wrote in message ... Jordan Zimmer wrote: Hello to all. I'm fairly new around here, so please bear with me. We own a Frigidaire smoothtop range model #GLEF396. At approximately 10 PM last night, we heard this continuous beeping noise coming from the kitchen. Upon closer examination, we noticed that the clock/timer display on the stove was flashing "F1". Did you try CTRLALTDEL ? --Chris sorry, couldn't resist. |
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Brad wrote: Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10 year mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have been less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial controls of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among the brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst). That probably happened as a result of the Fridgidaire line being sold to White Westinghouse by General Motors (many years ago). Chuck Demas -- Eat Healthy | _ _ | Nothing would be done at all, Stay Fit | @ @ | If a man waited to do it so well, Die Anyway | v | That no one could find fault with it. | \___/ | http://world.std.com/~cpd |
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"Brad" wrote in message ... Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10 year mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have been less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial controls of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among the brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst). Keep your fingers crossed though. If it makes it past the 2 year mark without any problems, chances are it'll go for another 2-3 years. Good luck! Oh yay, so I get this to look forward to on my 2yo Frigidaire range, huh? Dawn I'll keep my fingers crossed. It's the only Frigidaire appliance we have. Dawn |
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"Charles Demas" wrote in message ... In article , Brad wrote: Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10 year mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have been less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial controls of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among the brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst). That probably happened as a result of the Fridgidaire line being sold to White Westinghouse by General Motors (many years ago). I sure looks like Frigidaire front loading washers are made by GE. I have also seen Frigidaire appliances stamped "Frigidaire brand by Electrolux." |
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In article ,
Vox Humana wrote: "Charles Demas" wrote in message ... In article , Brad wrote: Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10 year mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have been less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial controls of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among the brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst). That probably happened as a result of the Fridgidaire line being sold to White Westinghouse by General Motors (many years ago). I sure looks like Frigidaire front loading washers are made by GE. I have also seen Frigidaire appliances stamped "Frigidaire brand by Electrolux." Maybe there have been other sales since General Motors sold the line/name. Chuck Demas -- Eat Healthy | _ _ | Nothing would be done at all, Stay Fit | @ @ | If a man waited to do it so well, Die Anyway | v | That no one could find fault with it. | \___/ | http://world.std.com/~cpd |
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I understand your frustration completely. The bottom line is that we live
in a "throw-away" society. Most people would rather buy a new appliance rather than have the old one fixed. This is especially true if the cost of the repair exceeds what the appliance is worth. (especially with regards to the ERC, which is an expensive part). My father said that as a rule of thumb, you can count on appliances lasting anywhere from 5 to 12 years, with most falling somewhere in between that timeline. Appliance manufacturers are putting less quality into their products because we, as consumers, have demanded cheaper merchandise. In other words, it's "planned obsolecense" meaning that they are made that way for a reason. I remember dad saying that he's replaced condenser and compressors on fridges that were only 3 years old! He was once called out to replace a bad defrost timer on a brand-new Maytag that had just been delivered! Part of the problem too, is that a lot of these companies are using parts from Mexico and other places, and needless to say, it's complete junk. When buying a major appliance, try sticking with anything made by Whirlpool. Stay clear of G.E., Frigidaire, Asko, certain Maytag appliances, and all those "bargain basement" names I'm sure we've all seen at one point or another. It's a shame that it's come down to this, but that's the truth. Heck, most manufacturers won't even guarantee parts availability anymore if the appliance is over 5 years old! Like I said, it's planned obsolecense. Gone are the days when a washer and dryer, fridge and stove would last you 20 years! Sad. "DawnK" wrote in message ... "Brad" wrote in message ... Hi Dawn. Not necessarily. There's no telling just when the part might fail. Some go for two years, some for 5, a few even make it to the 10 year mark, but I can tell you that electronic controls, on the whole, have been less reliable and have a higher rate of failure than the old dial controls of years gone by. I hate to say this too, but Frigidaire is not among the brands with the best reputation either... (Their fridges are the worst). Keep your fingers crossed though. If it makes it past the 2 year mark without any problems, chances are it'll go for another 2-3 years. Good luck! Oh yay, so I get this to look forward to on my 2yo Frigidaire range, huh? Dawn I'll keep my fingers crossed. It's the only Frigidaire appliance we have. Dawn |