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| Barbecue (alt.food.barbecue) Discuss barbecue and grilling--southern style "low and slow" smoking of ribs, shoulders and briskets, as well as direct heat grilling of everything from burgers to salmon to vegetables. |
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Steve Wertz wrote:
From todays episode of Calling All Cooks: First, the whole shoulder is wrapped in foil and cooked in the oven at 325 for 8 hours - 'because the fire is just too hard to attend' Yeah, I saw this one. It's a very old episode (I'm not sure there are any new CAC episodes). It really amazed me that he was from North Carolina. I could see some not very BBQ savvy area, but NC? He was entertaining guy and I was really looking forward to seeing the real deal. Then he did that. Brian Rodenborn |
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Steve Wertz wrote:
From todays episode of Calling All Cooks: First, the whole shoulder is wrapped in foil and cooked in the oven at 325 for 8 hours - 'because the fire is just too hard to attend' Then it's pulled into largish chunks and set on a Kinsgford briquette fire (no wood chips) to 'smoke' for 30 minutes, dumping on sauce the the last 10 minutes. What was really sad is the guy had a perfectly good 40cubic foot brick smoker/grill in his back yard. And he only used it for 30 minutes, and with only briquettes - no wood whatsoever. Episode details: http://www.foodtv.com/food/show_ca/e..._20089,00.html Even Worse: The guy is a food writer for the Durham Herald. This is prolly the third time FoodTV has run this show. It's almost as bad as Emeril trying to do brisket on a stove-top smoker. -- Aloha, Nathan Lau San Jose, CA #include std.disclaimer |
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"Steve Wertz" wrote in message
From todays episode of Calling All Cooks: First, the whole shoulder is wrapped in foil and cooked in the oven at 325 for 8 hours - 'because the fire is just too hard to attend' Then it's pulled into largish chunks and set on a Kinsgford briquette fire (no wood chips) to 'smoke' for 30 minutes, dumping on sauce the the last 10 minutes. What was really sad is the guy had a perfectly good 40cubic foot brick smoker/grill in his back yard. And he only used it for 30 minutes, and with only briquettes - no wood whatsoever. Episode details: http://www.foodtv.com/food/show_ca/e..._20089,00.html Even Worse: The guy is a food writer for the Durham Herald. -sw He may actually be a resident of Cary, NC; Containment Area for Relocated Yankees. JD |
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Faye Kinnitt wrote:
Earlier in the episode the guy who owns the Houston "Goode" outfit said they sometimes go as much as 20 hours on Brisket. I'll bet you could easily chew that one. 8^) Bob in socal.. Goode Company BBQ has some damn good BBQ. Their brisket is good, their sauce is only fair, tho. Not bad, just not the best I have had. Kevin (thanking his lucky stars he lives in Houston, Texas) |
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Steve Wertz wrote in message ...
Episode details: http://www.foodtv.com/food/show_ca/e..._20089,00.html That's pathetic. But isn't it true that in this part of NC "BBQ" often means Brunswick stew? -- Yip |
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"Steve Wertz" wrote in message ... From todays episode of Calling All Cooks: First, the whole shoulder is wrapped in foil and cooked in the oven at 325 for 8 hours - 'because the fire is just too hard to attend' Then it's pulled into largish chunks and set on a Kinsgford briquette fire (no wood chips) to 'smoke' for 30 minutes, dumping on sauce the the last 10 minutes. What was really sad is the guy had a perfectly good 40cubic foot brick smoker/grill in his back yard. And he only used it for 30 minutes, and with only briquettes - no wood whatsoever. Episode details: http://www.foodtv.com/food/show_ca/e..._20089,00.html Even Worse: The guy is a food writer for the Durham Herald. -sw Sad, just soooo sad. PS. Had lunch last week at Henry's Smokehouse in Greenville last week. Still good. |
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:20:05 GMT, Lou wrote:
One episode of Emeril's (the Jesse Ventura of Chefs) boiled ribs does more to dilute our cause than years of cook-offs can ever recover. "Dilute our cause"? I cook to enjoy what I've cooked, and so others can enjoy it. I don't have a cause, nor do I see any need for a crusade. It's just BBQ, you know. -- Kevin S. Wilson Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho "Anything, when cooked in large enough batches, will be vile." --Dag Right-square-bracket-gren, in alt.religion.kibology |
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In contrast to foodtv there are some out there who "get it"
Turnersouth has a show called blue ribbon that spotlights a different topic each show. The one for BBQ was really well done. Here's a link http://www.turnersouth.com/shows/blu...,,2292,00.html They will re-air in Feb |
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:24:58 GMT, "Michael"
wrote: PS. Had lunch last week at Henry's Smokehouse in Greenville last week. Still good. I made something similar to their 'hash' the other night (sans rice). Basically chopped pork in a vinegar sauce. I could go for another rack of those spares though - I haven't done spares for months now. -sw |
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 23:20:05 GMT, Lou
wrote: I'm sick of having to constantly explain to FoodTV watchers what real Q is! We need a concerted effort to convey to the Emerils, CiCi Charmichaels, Tylers, etc., that our culinary heritage, methods, and standards are as demanding, creative, artful, and delicious as any other highly developed cuisine. But that would go against everything they've already taught us. I can't think of a single person here, except maybe Schidt, who could go on TV and not dis (politely) what they've already, errr...accomplished. But I'm willing to write an email or two into the void. -sw |
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:30:24 -0600, Steve Wertz
wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:24:58 GMT, "Michael" wrote: PS. Had lunch last week at Henry's Smokehouse in Greenville last week. Still good. I made something similar to their 'hash' the other night (sans rice). Basically chopped pork in a vinegar sauce. Pork, vinegar, mmmm. Add some garlic, ginger, cumin, coriander, cinnamon, lots of red chilies and we're starting to look like vindaloo. |
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In article , Robert Klute
wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:30:24 -0600, Steve Wertz wrote: I made something similar to their 'hash' the other night (sans rice). Basically chopped pork in a vinegar sauce. Pork, vinegar, mmmm. Add some garlic, ginger, cumin, coriander, cinnamon, lots of red chilies and we're starting to look like vindaloo. Ding! That's a brilliant idea- Pulled pork vindaloo! monroe(gonna try that) |
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"Monroe, of course..." wrote in message ... In article , Robert Klute wrote: On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:30:24 -0600, Steve Wertz wrote: I made something similar to their 'hash' the other night (sans rice). Basically chopped pork in a vinegar sauce. Pork, vinegar, mmmm. Add some garlic, ginger, cumin, coriander, cinnamon, lots of red chilies and we're starting to look like vindaloo. Ding! That's a brilliant idea- Pulled pork vindaloo! South Carolina hash is kinda a strange thing. Basically pulled pork simmered until it looks like someone ate it before, seasoned w/ a little sauce and then served over room temperature white rice. A bit of an acquired taste |
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:20:32 GMT, "Michael"
wrote: South Carolina hash is kinda a strange thing. Basically pulled pork simmered until it looks like someone ate it before, snort That's so true, especially of Henry's in Greenville :-) A bit of an acquired taste First time I had it it was pretty unusual - cloyingly tart. But I can see it grows on you. I didn/t cook mine to it's second death - just simmered some smoked butt chunks it a little Carolina hot vinegar sauce - not unlike the vinegar sauce mentioned in the FoodTV show that started this thread, just hotter. -sw |
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Michael wrote:
South Carolina hash is kinda a strange thing. Basically pulled pork simmered until it looks like someone ate it before, seasoned w/ a little sauce and then served over room temperature white rice. A bit of an acquired taste Sounds pretty good to me. I like stewed things over rice. Brian Rodenborn |
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