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As an apertif over two nights, the 2008 Knebel Riesling Trocken QbA.
Easy going, lighter styled dry Riesling, spring blossoms and a little incipent petrol. A bit short, but as an apertif a nice little wine. B-/ B With chicken thighs over roasted vegetables (potatoes, carrots,and golden beets) and broccoli, the 2008 Coudert/Clos de la Roilette Fleurie. Somewhat one dimensional at first, but it seemed to blossom over a couple hours. Sappy red fruit, at first more raspberry, then it was more cherries accented with Cranapple™ juice. Floral and earth tones, good acids, some light tannins. Long clean finish. I didn't love at first, but last glass is at least B+/A-. Grade disclaimer: I'm a very easy grader, basically A is an excellent*wine, B a good wine, C mediocre. Anything below C means I wouldn't*drink at a party where it was only choice. Furthermore, I offer no*promises of objectivity, accuracy, and certainly not of consistency.** |
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DaleW wrote on Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:28:09 -0800 (PST):
>As an apertif over two nights, the 2008 Knebel Riesling Trocken QbA. >Easy going, lighter styled dry Riesling, spring blossoms and a little >incipient petrol. A bit short, but as an apertif a nice little wine. >B-/ You are posting in the US aren't you, and I wonder what you mean by "petrol"? -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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![]() "James Silverton" > skrev i melding ... > DaleW wrote on Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:28:09 -0800 (PST): > >>As an apertif over two nights, the 2008 Knebel Riesling Trocken QbA. >>Easy going, lighter styled dry Riesling, spring blossoms and a little >>incipient petrol. A bit short, but as an apertif a nice little wine. B-/ > > You are posting in the US aren't you, and I wonder what you mean by > "petrol"? > My German dictionary on wine: petrol tone (engl.) Der typische Ton wird durch den Stoff TDN (Trimethyl-Dihydronaphtalin) verursacht. Häufig tritt der Petrolton zwar beim Riesling auf (und wird von manchen Riesling-Freunden durchaus geschätzt) ist jedoch nicht auf diese Rebsorte oder auch nicht auf bestimmte Bodentypen beschränkt. :-) Anders |
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On Jan 18, 4:27*pm, "James Silverton" >
wrote: > *DaleW *wrote *on Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:28:09 -0800 (PST): > > >As an apertif over two nights, the 2008 Knebel Riesling Trocken QbA. > >Easy going, lighter styled dry Riesling, spring blossoms and a little > >incipient petrol. A bit short, but as an apertif a nice little wine. > >B-/ > > You are posting in the US aren't you, and I wonder what you mean by > "petrol"? > > -- > > James Silverton > Potomac, Maryland > > Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not sorry, for some reason petrol has become the normal geekspeak for TDN (1,2,6-trimethyl-1,2-dihydronaphthalene). Actually probably closer to kerosene/diesel than gasoline. TDN is found in lots of grape varieties, but typically the highest concentrations are in Riesling. |
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On Jan 19, 7:23*am, DaleW > wrote:
> > sorry, for some reason petrol has become the normal geekspeak for TDN > (1,2,6-trimethyl-1,2-dihydronaphthalene). Actually probably closer to > kerosene/diesel than gasoline. > > TDN is found in lots of grape varieties, but typically the highest > concentrations are in Riesling.- Hide quoted text - To me, TDN smells of light machine oil, like "3-in One." (Is that stuff still around? It used to be sold in US hardware stores for household use -- oiling door hinges and such.) Andy |
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![]() "Mike Tommasi" > skrev i melding ... > AyTee wrote: >> On Jan 19, 7:23 am, DaleW > wrote: >>> sorry, for some reason petrol has become the normal geekspeak for TDN >>> (1,2,6-trimethyl-1,2-dihydronaphthalene). Actually probably closer to >>> kerosene/diesel than gasoline. >>> >>> TDN is found in lots of grape varieties, but typically the highest >>> concentrations are in Riesling.- Hide quoted text - >> >> To me, TDN smells of light machine oil, like "3-in One." (Is that >> stuff still around? It used to be sold in US hardware stores for >> household use -- oiling door hinges and such.) > > Oui, that is what TDN stands for in french: Trois Dans uN. > LOL! Anders |
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Anders wrote on Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:13:28 +0100:
> "Mike Tommasi" > skrev i melding > ... >> AyTee wrote: >>> On Jan 19, 7:23 am, DaleW > wrote: >>>> sorry, for some reason petrol has become the normal >>>> geekspeak for TDN (1,2,6-trimethyl-1,2-dihydronaphthalene). >>>> Actually probably closer to kerosene/diesel than gasoline. >>>> >>>> TDN is found in lots of grape varieties, but typically the highest >>>> concentrations are in Riesling.- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> To me, TDN smells of light machine oil, like "3-in One." (Is >>> that stuff still around? It used to be sold in US hardware >>> stores for household use -- oiling door hinges and such.) >> >> Oui, that is what TDN stands for in french: Trois Dans uN. >> >LOL! Now I think I've got it! I do know what light machine oils such as "3 in 1" smell like and I seem to recall Rieslings that have a subtle hint of the smell. It's amazing what small touches of inherently unlikely odors will do! -- James Silverton Potomac, Maryland Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not |
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