What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
============================

Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
-- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php

bruce bowser wrote:
> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
> ============================
>
> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
> -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>

The difference is aged urine. After fermentation and distillation
the french usually urinate in their final product.

bruce bowser wrote:

> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
> ============================
>
> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
> -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php


Do the CONEHEADS speak French...!!!???

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On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
> ============================
>
> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
> -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>

There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.

On Wed, 26 May 2021 18:28:10 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
>> ============================
>>
>> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>> -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>>
>
>There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.

I agree and when both Dave Smiths agree on something, it's true.

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On Wed, 26 May 2021 19:02:34 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 May 2021 18:28:10 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
>>> ============================
>>>
>>> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>>> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>>> -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>>>
>>
>>There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>>France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>
>I agree and when both Dave Smiths agree on something, it's true.
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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On Wed, 26 May 2021 19:02:34 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On Wed, 26 May 2021 18:28:10 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
>>> ============================
>>>
>>> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>>> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>>> -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>>>
>>
>>There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>>France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>
>I agree and when both Dave Smiths agree on something, it's true.

You are an asshole, Bruce. Stop forging Dave Smith.
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Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and
>> other Cognac?
>> ============================
>>
>> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>> --
>> https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>>
>>
>
> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region
> of France.* If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.

If you take a leak in france, it's called "Le jus de fin de france"

But anywhere else, it's just called a pot of ****.

On Wed, 26 May 2021 20:35:39 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and
>>> other Cognac?
>>> ============================
>>>
>>> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>>> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>>> --
>>> https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region
>> of France.* If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>
>If you take a leak in france, it's called "Le jus de fin de france"
>
>But anywhere else, it's just called a pot of ****.
>
>
>

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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On Wed, 26 May 2021 21:23:48 -0400, Jim Lahey >
wrote:

>On Wed, 26 May 2021 19:02:34 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 26 May 2021 18:28:10 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>>>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
>>>> ============================
>>>>
>>>> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>>>> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>>>> -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>>>>
>>>
>>>There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>>>France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>>
>>I agree and when both Dave Smiths agree on something, it's true.
>
>You are an asshole, Bruce. Stop forging Dave Smith.

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On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
> > What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
> > ============================
> >
> > Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
> > Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
> > -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
> >
> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
> France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.

No way. In Montréal or any other french speaking city outside of France, you couldn't stop a Cognac maker from using that name.

On Thu, 27 May 2021 01:35:03 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>> > What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
>> > ============================
>> >
>> > Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>> > Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>> > -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>> >
>> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>> France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>
>No way. In Montréal or any other french speaking city outside of France, you couldn't stop a Cognac maker from using that name.

"The name 'Cognac' is protected by Geographical Indication €“ in other
words it needs to be grown and produced in the Cognac region of France
under strict conditions. Only brandy created using such a method is
entitled to be marketed under the name of 'Cognac'."
<https://www.brandyclassics.com/news/2014/01/protecting-the-name-cognac/>

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On Thu, 27 May 2021 05:07:48 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On Thu, 27 May 2021 01:35:03 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:
>
>>On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>>> > What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
>>> > ============================
>>> >
>>> > Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>>> > Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>>> > -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>>> >
>>> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>>> France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>>
>>No way. In Montréal or any other french speaking city outside of France, you couldn't stop a Cognac maker from using that name.
>
>"The name 'Cognac' is protected by Geographical Indication – in other
>words it needs to be grown and produced in the Cognac region of France
>under strict conditions. Only brandy created using such a method is
>entitled to be marketed under the name of 'Cognac'."
><https://www.brandyclassics.com/news/2014/01/protecting-the-name-cognac/>

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On Thu, 27 May 2021 01:35:03 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>> > What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
>> > ============================
>> >
>> > Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>> > Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>> > -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>> >
>> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>> France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>
>No way. In Montréal or any other french speaking city outside of France, you couldn't stop a Cognac maker from using that name.

Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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On 5/26/2021 3:03 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> bruce bowser wrote:
>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other
>> Cognac?
>> ============================
>>
>> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>> --
>> https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>>
>>
>
> The difference is aged urine. After fermentation and distillation the
> french usually urinate in their final product.

Same stuff they use in diesel exhaust fluid?

Sheople are sheople after all.

On 5/27/2021 2:35 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
>>> ============================
>>>
>>> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>>> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>>> -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>>>
>> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>> France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>
> No way. In Montréal or any other french speaking city outside of France, you couldn't stop a Cognac maker from using that name.
>
Well yeah but those are militant Frenchies from the get go.

On 5/27/2021 12:30 PM, wolfy's new skateboard wrote:
> On 5/27/2021 2:35 AM, bruce bowser wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>>>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other
>>>> Cognac?
>>>> ============================
>>>>
>>>> Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>>>> Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>>>> --
>>>> https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>>> France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>>
>> No way.Â* In Montréal or any other french speaking city outside of
>> France, you couldn't stop a Cognac maker from using that name.
>>
> Well yeah but those are militant Frenchies from the get go.
>
French rifle for sale, never fired and only dropped twice.

On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:17:17 PM UTC-4, Pamela wrote in alt.usage.english:
> On 15:26 27 May 2021, Quinn C said:
> > * occam:
> >> On 27/05/2021 04:34, Quinn C wrote:
> >>> * Peter Moylan:
> >>>> On 27/05/21 09:45, Quinn C wrote:
> >>>>> * Paul Wolff:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, 26 May 2021, at 13:55:48, bruce bowser
> >>>>>> > posted:
> >>>>>>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and
> >>>>>>> other Cognac?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That has all the appearances of a very silly question. Cognac
> >>>>>> is in France. It is French. Cognac brandy is French. How, then,
> >>>>>> in this poster's thinking, can Cognac of any kind be other than
> >>>>>> French?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can champagne? Can Camembert or Brie? It's partly by convention,
> >>>>> partly by law that these questions are answered. "Cognac" for
> >>>>> any similar kind of brandy was pretty common in the German of my
> >>>>> youth, even though it wasn't allowed on the label.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, these old names stick in one's mind. We've never called
> >>>> non-French brandy cognac in Australia, but there have been a
> >>>> number of other cases where "appelation controllée" has upset our
> >>>> naming customs. The wine country in my area used to be known
> >>>> especially for its Rieslings, and now I've forgotten what those
> >>>> wines are now called.
> >>>
> >>> Riesling is a grape variety, so it shouldn't be controlled any
> >>> more than Peeno noir. [1]
> >>>
> >>>> And more than once I've gone into a bottle shop and asked "Can
> >>>> you remind me what sherry is called now?"
> >>>
> >>> Depends. Sherry from Portugal is called port.
> >>
> >> 'Sherry' is not as generic a name as you think. It originates from
> >> the Spanish town of Jerez (ES). Not unlike 'Port' which traces its
> >> origins to Porto (PT).
> >
> > I sense a severe lack of mental elasticity. If a guest asked you for
> > Sherry, and you hadn't any Sherry in the house, do you think the
> > replies "I don't have any Sherry, how about Scotch?" and "I don't
> > have any Sherry, how about Port?" are equally reasonable?
> >
> > I have no problem knowing the exact definition of Sherry and still
> > using it generically when that's useful.
> >
> > It was already mentioned that Cognac, the name of the most famous
> > brandy, is sometimes used generically for all (grape) brandy.
> > Likewise, Sherry is the most famous fortified wine, so the name is
> > sometimes used generically for all fortified wine.
> I haven't come across that usage in the UK. Even when buying in a
> supermarket, sherry is something quite specific. Same goes for Cognac.
> Perhaps your usage is similar to the usage of "Coke" for any cola.
> > Port is famous enough that the above sentence probably wouldn't
> > happen in the wild - it was designed to make the underlying process
> > more visible - but I've heard people come back from Cyprus and
> > saying that they bought "some of the local Sherry, I don't remember
> > what it's called." Commandaria, actually, but I had to look that up
> > again.
> Maybe they could also call it "schnapps" which has come to be applied to
> syrup-sweetened alcohol with added flavourings, as opposed to the drink
> it tries to imitate.
>
> I suppose it's like being in Thailand and being served "champagne" by the
> locals, which is not going to be champagne. Perhaps these incorrect names
> are a combination of distance, ignorance and affordability.

Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.

On Fri, 28 May 2021 07:38:28 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 7:17:17 PM UTC-4, Pamela wrote in alt.usage.english:
>> On 15:26 27 May 2021, Quinn C said:
>> > * occam:
>> >> On 27/05/2021 04:34, Quinn C wrote:
>> >>> * Peter Moylan:
>> >>>> On 27/05/21 09:45, Quinn C wrote:
>> >>>>> * Paul Wolff:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wed, 26 May 2021, at 13:55:48, bruce bowser
>> >>>>>> > posted:
>> >>>>>>> What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and
>> >>>>>>> other Cognac?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> That has all the appearances of a very silly question. Cognac
>> >>>>>> is in France. It is French. Cognac brandy is French. How, then,
>> >>>>>> in this poster's thinking, can Cognac of any kind be other than
>> >>>>>> French?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Can champagne? Can Camembert or Brie? It's partly by convention,
>> >>>>> partly by law that these questions are answered. "Cognac" for
>> >>>>> any similar kind of brandy was pretty common in the German of my
>> >>>>> youth, even though it wasn't allowed on the label.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yes, these old names stick in one's mind. We've never called
>> >>>> non-French brandy cognac in Australia, but there have been a
>> >>>> number of other cases where "appelation controllée" has upset our
>> >>>> naming customs. The wine country in my area used to be known
>> >>>> especially for its Rieslings, and now I've forgotten what those
>> >>>> wines are now called.
>> >>>
>> >>> Riesling is a grape variety, so it shouldn't be controlled any
>> >>> more than Peeno noir. [1]
>> >>>
>> >>>> And more than once I've gone into a bottle shop and asked "Can
>> >>>> you remind me what sherry is called now?"
>> >>>
>> >>> Depends. Sherry from Portugal is called port.
>> >>
>> >> 'Sherry' is not as generic a name as you think. It originates from
>> >> the Spanish town of Jerez (ES). Not unlike 'Port' which traces its
>> >> origins to Porto (PT).
>> >
>> > I sense a severe lack of mental elasticity. If a guest asked you for
>> > Sherry, and you hadn't any Sherry in the house, do you think the
>> > replies "I don't have any Sherry, how about Scotch?" and "I don't
>> > have any Sherry, how about Port?" are equally reasonable?
>> >
>> > I have no problem knowing the exact definition of Sherry and still
>> > using it generically when that's useful.
>> >
>> > It was already mentioned that Cognac, the name of the most famous
>> > brandy, is sometimes used generically for all (grape) brandy.
>> > Likewise, Sherry is the most famous fortified wine, so the name is
>> > sometimes used generically for all fortified wine.
>> I haven't come across that usage in the UK. Even when buying in a
>> supermarket, sherry is something quite specific. Same goes for Cognac.
>> Perhaps your usage is similar to the usage of "Coke" for any cola.
>> > Port is famous enough that the above sentence probably wouldn't
>> > happen in the wild - it was designed to make the underlying process
>> > more visible - but I've heard people come back from Cyprus and
>> > saying that they bought "some of the local Sherry, I don't remember
>> > what it's called." Commandaria, actually, but I had to look that up
>> > again.
>> Maybe they could also call it "schnapps" which has come to be applied to
>> syrup-sweetened alcohol with added flavourings, as opposed to the drink
>> it tries to imitate.
>>
>> I suppose it's like being in Thailand and being served "champagne" by the
>> locals, which is not going to be champagne. Perhaps these incorrect names
>> are a combination of distance, ignorance and affordability.
>
>Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
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On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>
I snipped all that long-winded post you copied just to add the one line
below.
>
> Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
>
They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.

wrote:
> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
> I snipped all that long-winded post you copied just to add the one line
> below.

> They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
>

How dare you snip the sacred words of master doctor DRUCE?

On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 6:26:31 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
> wrote:
>
> > On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> >>
> > I snipped all that long-winded post you copied just to add the one line
> > below.
> >
> > They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
> >
> How dare you snip the sacred words of master doctor DRUCE?
>
*SNORT*

On Fri, 28 May 2021 16:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 6:26:31 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>> >>
>> > I snipped all that long-winded post you copied just to add the one line
>> > below.
>> >
>> > They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
>> >
>> How dare you snip the sacred words of master doctor DRUCE?
>>
>*SNORT*
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 18:26:22 -0500, Hank Rogers >
wrote:

wrote:
>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>
>> I snipped all that long-winded post you copied just to add the one line
>> below.
>
>> They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
>>
>
>How dare you snip the sacred words of master doctor DRUCE?
>
>
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 14:27:21 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>I snipped all that long-winded post you copied just to add the one line
>below.
>>
>> Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
>>
>They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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On Fri, 28 May 2021 16:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>*SNORT*

A very masculine sound, indeed.

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On Sat, 29 May 2021 10:22:54 +1000, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On Fri, 28 May 2021 16:46:18 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:
>
>>*SNORT*
>
>A very masculine sound, indeed.
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On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:27:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
> >
> I snipped all that long-winded post you copied just to add the one line
> below.
> >
> > Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
> >
> They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.

Each of them thinks theirs is patently different. Like cognac from brandy. We all know its the same stuff, but the manufacturers are so good at twisting the law that sometimes they force you not to sayi its not the same.

On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 10:32:43 AM UTC-4, J. J. Lodder wrote in alt.usage.english:
> Kerr-Mudd, John > wrote:
> > On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:36:29 +0100
> > Ian Jackson > wrote:
> >
> > > In message >, Ian Jackson
> > > > writes
> > > >In message >, charles
> > > > writes
> > > >>In article >,
> > > >> Pamela > wrote:
> > > >>> On 14:02 27 May 2021, occam said:
> > > >>
> >
> > [maybe]
> >
> > > >>
> > > >>> India Pale Ale from India? No, hold on, that's the wrong way around.
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>Indeed ...TO India
> > > >>
> > > >I was led to believe that ISP was a stronger-than-normal beer (around
> > > >7% ABV) in order to ensure that it didn't 'go off' on the long voyage
> > > >from Britain to India. These days, it's not unusual to see it as low as
> > > >4%.
> >
> > That's just abuse of the phrase; Greene King "IPA" is even worse at 3.6%
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greene_King#Greene_King
> >
> > An IPA has to be at least 5.5% in my book.
> >
> > https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/138/86959/
> > (SN IPA 6.1%)
>
> Unless it is at 0.0%
> 'Brand' (the oldest Dutch brewery still in existence)
> makes an IPA at 7%, and a very similar one 0,0%

There is no similarity in that. Kiddie drinks can never be the same as a 7% 14 proof.

On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 10:19:52 PM UTC-4, micky wrote in alt.home.repair:
> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 27 May 2021 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
> > wrote:
> >On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:46:17 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
> >> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 27 May 2021 01:38:57 -0700 (PDT), bruce
> >> bowser > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >> >> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
> >> >> > What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
> >> If you get a liquid/solid modem, there is rather expensive software that
> >> will analyse the tastes of the two and you can compare the two analyses
> >> manually or with a text comparer.
> >> >> > ============================
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
> >> >> > Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
> >> >> > -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
> >> >> >
> >> >> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
> >> >> France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
> >> >
> >> >No way. In Montréal or any other french speaking city outside of France, you couldn't stop a Cognac maker from using that name.
> >> Are you sure of that? Why would French-speaking cities be different
> >> from towns and rural areas or from non-French-speaking places?
> >>
> >> https://www.businessinsider.com/the-...-drinks-2018-9
> >>
> >> I wonder if you went to a liquor store and looked at the ones labeled
> >> cognac if maybe they are all from the Cognac region of France.
> >
> >AFAIK, they all have to be from France. The rest are brandy.
> >
> >>
> >> I think Champagne has lost its control of that word, but not every place
> >> has.
> >
> >AFAIK that's not true. Which is why the crap from say, NY state, is labeled
> >sparkling wine.
> You're right! I guess I don't go to the right bars, or I don't spend
> enogh money.

Well, in the Boston to Washington corridor "the right bar" might instead mean an exclusive club where expenses are paid quarterly or yearly, etc.. like on a golf course or at a retreat or in an urban area.

On Sat, 29 May 2021 08:11:11 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:27:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>> >
>> I snipped all that long-winded post you copied just to add the one line
>> below.
>> >
>> > Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
>> >
>> They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
>
>Each of them thinks theirs is patently different. Like cognac from brandy. We all know its the same stuff, but the manufacturers are so good at twisting the law that sometimes they force you not to sayi its not the same.

It can be called cognac if it's made in Cognac. Is that twisting the
law or is there a certain logic at work there?

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On Sun, 30 May 2021 05:16:27 +1000, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On Sat, 29 May 2021 08:11:11 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:
>
>>On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:27:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> >
>>> I snipped all that long-winded post you copied just to add the one line
>>> below.
>>> >
>>> > Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
>>> >
>>> They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
>>
>>Each of them thinks theirs is patently different. Like cognac from brandy. We all know its the same stuff, but the manufacturers are so good at twisting the law that sometimes they force you not to sayi its not the same.
>
>It can be called cognac if it's made in Cognac. Is that twisting the
>law or is there a certain logic at work there?
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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On Sat, 29 May 2021 08:30:13 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 10:19:52 PM UTC-4, micky wrote in alt.home.repair:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 27 May 2021 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>> > wrote:
>> >On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:46:17 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
>> >> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 27 May 2021 01:38:57 -0700 (PDT), bruce
>> >> bowser > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>> >> >> > What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
>> >> If you get a liquid/solid modem, there is rather expensive software that
>> >> will analyse the tastes of the two and you can compare the two analyses
>> >> manually or with a text comparer.
>> >> >> > ============================
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>> >> >> > Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>> >> >> > -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>> >> >> France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>> >> >
>> >> >No way. In Montréal or any other french speaking city outside of France, you couldn't stop a Cognac maker from using that name.
>> >> Are you sure of that? Why would French-speaking cities be different
>> >> from towns and rural areas or from non-French-speaking places?
>> >>
>> >> https://www.businessinsider.com/the-...-drinks-2018-9
>> >>
>> >> I wonder if you went to a liquor store and looked at the ones labeled
>> >> cognac if maybe they are all from the Cognac region of France.
>> >
>> >AFAIK, they all have to be from France. The rest are brandy.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I think Champagne has lost its control of that word, but not every place
>> >> has.
>> >
>> >AFAIK that's not true. Which is why the crap from say, NY state, is labeled
>> >sparkling wine.
>> You're right! I guess I don't go to the right bars, or I don't spend
>> enogh money.
>
>Well, in the Boston to Washington corridor "the right bar" might instead mean an exclusive club where expenses are paid quarterly or yearly, etc.. like on a golf course or at a retreat or in an urban area.
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
The other Dave Smith

On Sat, 29 May 2021 08:30:13 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 10:19:52 PM UTC-4, micky wrote in alt.home.repair:
>> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 27 May 2021 11:19:30 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
>> > wrote:
>> >On Thursday, May 27, 2021 at 9:46:17 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
>> >> In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 27 May 2021 01:38:57 -0700 (PDT), bruce
>> >> bowser > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 6:28:16 PM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>> >> >> On 2021-05-26 4:54 p.m., bruce bowser wrote:
>> >> >> > What is the actual taste difference between French Cognac and other Cognac?
>> >> If you get a liquid/solid modem, there is rather expensive software that
>> >> will analyse the tastes of the two and you can compare the two analyses
>> >> manually or with a text comparer.
>> >> >> > ============================
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Qui sont les plus gros acheteurs de cognac dans le monde ?
>> >> >> > Le Figaro - Jan 31, 2018
>> >> >> > -- https://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/...s-le-monde.php
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> There is no other Cognac. Cognac is brandy from the Cognac region of
>> >> >> France. If it is made anywhere else it is called brandy.
>> >> >
>> >> >No way. In Montréal or any other french speaking city outside of France, you couldn't stop a Cognac maker from using that name.
>> >> Are you sure of that? Why would French-speaking cities be different
>> >> from towns and rural areas or from non-French-speaking places?
>> >>
>> >> https://www.businessinsider.com/the-...-drinks-2018-9
>> >>
>> >> I wonder if you went to a liquor store and looked at the ones labeled
>> >> cognac if maybe they are all from the Cognac region of France.
>> >
>> >AFAIK, they all have to be from France. The rest are brandy.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I think Champagne has lost its control of that word, but not every place
>> >> has.
>> >
>> >AFAIK that's not true. Which is why the crap from say, NY state, is labeled
>> >sparkling wine.
>> You're right! I guess I don't go to the right bars, or I don't spend
>> enogh money.
>
>Well, in the Boston to Washington corridor "the right bar" might instead mean an exclusive club where expenses are paid quarterly or yearly, etc.. like on a golf course or at a retreat or in an urban area.
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
The other Dave Smith

On Sat, 29 May 2021 08:22:47 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 10:32:43 AM UTC-4, J. J. Lodder wrote in alt.usage.english:
>> Kerr-Mudd, John > wrote:
>> > On Fri, 28 May 2021 23:36:29 +0100
>> > Ian Jackson > wrote:
>> >
>> > > In message >, Ian Jackson
>> > > > writes
>> > > >In message >, charles
>> > > > writes
>> > > >>In article >,
>> > > >> Pamela > wrote:
>> > > >>> On 14:02 27 May 2021, occam said:
>> > > >>
>> >
>> > [maybe]
>> >
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> India Pale Ale from India? No, hold on, that's the wrong way around.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>Indeed ...TO India
>> > > >>
>> > > >I was led to believe that ISP was a stronger-than-normal beer (around
>> > > >7% ABV) in order to ensure that it didn't 'go off' on the long voyage
>> > > >from Britain to India. These days, it's not unusual to see it as low as
>> > > >4%.
>> >
>> > That's just abuse of the phrase; Greene King "IPA" is even worse at 3.6%
>> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greene_King#Greene_King
>> >
>> > An IPA has to be at least 5.5% in my book.
>> >
>> > https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/138/86959/
>> > (SN IPA 6.1%)
>>
>> Unless it is at 0.0%
>> 'Brand' (the oldest Dutch brewery still in existence)
>> makes an IPA at 7%, and a very similar one 0,0%
>
>There is no similarity in that. Kiddie drinks can never be the same as a 7% 14 proof.
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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The other Dave Smith

On Sat, 29 May 2021 08:11:11 -0700 (PDT), bruce bowser
> wrote:

>On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:27:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 9:38:32 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>> >
>> I snipped all that long-winded post you copied just to add the one line
>> below.
>> >
>> > Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
>> >
>> They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
>
>Each of them thinks theirs is patently different. Like cognac from brandy. We all know its the same stuff, but the manufacturers are so good at twisting the law that sometimes they force you not to sayi its not the same.
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
The other Dave Smith

On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 10:11:14 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>
> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:27:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
> >
> > > Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
> > >
> > They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
> >
> Each of them thinks theirs is patently different. Like cognac from brandy. We all know its the same stuff, but the manufacturers are so good at twisting the law that sometimes they force you not to sayi its not the same.
>
There's no 'twisting the law.' In Europe it is my understanding for it to be called
champagne it must be made and bottled in France. The other European countries
also make 'champagne' but due to the laws it is called something else (Prosecco,
etc.). Nothing underhanded or twisting about the names of those sparkling wines.

On Sat, 29 May 2021 13:24:23 -0700 (PDT), "
> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 10:11:14 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:27:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>> >
>> > > Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
>> > >
>> > They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
>> >
>> Each of them thinks theirs is patently different. Like cognac from brandy. We all know its the same stuff, but the manufacturers are so good at twisting the law that sometimes they force you not to sayi its not the same.
>>
>There's no 'twisting the law.' In Europe it is my understanding for it to be called
>champagne it must be made and bottled in France. The other European countries
>also make 'champagne' but due to the laws it is called something else (Prosecco,
>etc.). Nothing underhanded or twisting about the names of those sparkling wines.
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
--
The other Dave Smith

On 2021-05-29 4:24 p.m., wrote:
> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 10:11:14 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>
>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:27:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
>>>>
>>> They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
>>>
>> Each of them thinks theirs is patently different. Like cognac from brandy. We all know its the same stuff, but the manufacturers are so good at twisting the law that sometimes they force you not to sayi its not the same.
>>
> There's no 'twisting the law.' In Europe it is my understanding for it to be called
> champagne it must be made and bottled in France. The other European countries
> also make 'champagne' but due to the laws it is called something else (Prosecco,
> etc.). Nothing underhanded or twisting about the names of those sparkling wines.
>

It not only has to be made in France. It has to be from the Champagne
region. We used to have a number of locally made Champagne wines but
some time back they had to stop calling it that. Now they names like
Brut, Blanc de Blanc, Traditional Method etc.

On Sat, 29 May 2021 17:14:00 -0400, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2021-05-29 4:24 p.m., wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 10:11:14 AM UTC-5, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 28, 2021 at 5:27:24 PM UTC-4, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sparkling wine is frequently confused with Cava, Sekt and Prosecco.
>>>>>
>>>> They're A L L sparkling wines; just from different countries.
>>>>
>>> Each of them thinks theirs is patently different. Like cognac from brandy. We all know its the same stuff, but the manufacturers are so good at twisting the law that sometimes they force you not to sayi its not the same.
>>>
>> There's no 'twisting the law.' In Europe it is my understanding for it to be called
>> champagne it must be made and bottled in France. The other European countries
>> also make 'champagne' but due to the laws it is called something else (Prosecco,
>> etc.). Nothing underhanded or twisting about the names of those sparkling wines.
>>
>
>It not only has to be made in France. It has to be from the Champagne
>region. We used to have a number of locally made Champagne wines but
>some time back they had to stop calling it that. Now they names like
>Brut, Blanc de Blanc, Traditional Method etc.
Ask them, theyre here. "You can stop saying that now. Thank you."
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