Why to appliances all die at the same time?
We had been having trouble with our washing machine occasionally
refusing to spin. Sometimes it helped to unplug it and let the computer
reset. Sometimes not. The repairman came to look at it and of course it
worked for him. He said it might be the door lock. He would order it.
When it came in he called to let us know but said if it was working
maybe we should not bother. A couple weeks later it acted up again. He
came and installed then new part and it worked. That was almost about
2-1/2 months ago. Last night it screwed up again.

Having spent over $600 in repairs in the last year and a half I didn't
see any point in another expensive repair. My wife never liked that
washer anyway. It was a front loader and needed frequent treatment for
the stink those things are subject to.

That's four major appliances I have had to buy since Christmas.
Hopefully I won't be needing any more appliances for a while.





On Christmas morning I did a load of laundry

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:53:59 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> Why to appliances all die at the same time?
> We had been having trouble with our washing machine occasionally
> refusing to spin. Sometimes it helped to unplug it and let the computer
> reset. Sometimes not. The repairman came to look at it and of course it
> worked for him. He said it might be the door lock. He would order it.
> When it came in he called to let us know but said if it was working
> maybe we should not bother. A couple weeks later it acted up again. He
> came and installed then new part and it worked. That was almost about
> 2-1/2 months ago. Last night it screwed up again.
>
> Having spent over $600 in repairs in the last year and a half I didn't
> see any point in another expensive repair. My wife never liked that
> washer anyway. It was a front loader and needed frequent treatment for
> the stink those things are subject to.
>
> That's four major appliances I have had to buy since Christmas.
> Hopefully I won't be needing any more appliances for a while.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Christmas morning I did a load of laundry

I HATE all that Tech Enabled CRAP!! The mechanicals work fine and the COMPUTER SCREWS UP!! :-(

****ing COMPUTERS!! Not EVERYTHING needs a computer embedded in it! Like a THERMOSTAT!! All one needs is a bimetal strip! NOT to be able to be adjusted by your Smart Phone!!

OK, the sparky ignitors on an gas stove are nice, but how about NO MORE GAS STOVES? Just make 100% electric stoves HOT enough to cook English Toffee, OK?

John Kuthe, KutheChocolates.com...

John, why do you have problems making English toffee on an electric stove? I make it every
year on my electric stove, and have no problems at all.

N.

On 2/13/2019 12:48 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> John, why do you have problems making English toffee on an electric stove? I make it every
> year on my electric stove, and have no problems at all.
>
> N.

Â* Well , you're not a stable genius ...

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:53:59 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> Why to appliances all die at the same time?

Just to **** you off.

Can you get one of these?

<https://www.speedqueen.com/products/top-load-washers.aspx>

Cindy Hamilton

On 2019-02-13 1:13 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:53:59 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> Why to appliances all die at the same time?
>
> Just to **** you off.
>
> Can you get one of these?
>
> <https://www.speedqueen.com/products/top-load-washers.aspx>
>

I looked at one of them. They sure ain't cheap.

I have a Whirlpool top loading washer (since 2010), and have had no trouble at all. It has an
extra large tub, and it wasn't very expensive...I got it at Lowe's because they were offering a
good price, a free haul-away of my old one, and a gift card. I would be really surprised if it had any kind
of computer in it...it has regular dials and nothing digital on the top. My dryer is also a
Whirlpool, bought at the same time.

Good luck!

N.

On 2019-02-13 1:52 p.m., Nancy2 wrote:
> I have a Whirlpool top loading washer (since 2010), and have had no
> trouble at all. It has an extra large tub, and it wasn't very
> expensive...I got it at Lowe's because they were offering a good
> price, a free haul-away of my old one, and a gift card. I would be
> really surprised if it had any kind of computer in it...it has
> regular dials and nothing digital on the top. My dryer is also a
> Whirlpool, bought at the same time.
>
The old one was a Cosby, apparently made by Maytag. I wish I had known
that before I bought it. The new one is a Sumsung that was on sale... at
least that is the way it was being marketed. Thanks to my repeat
business they are dropped $50 off the delivery and no charge to take
away the old one. It is a top loader. They have a number of machines
with regular looking dials, but they are actually connected to
computerized controls, not mechanical switches. I had not realized that
newer washing machines no longer have those big agitators.

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 9:38:24 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-02-13 1:52 p.m., Nancy2 wrote:
> > I have a Whirlpool top loading washer (since 2010), and have had no
> > trouble at all. It has an extra large tub, and it wasn't very
> > expensive...I got it at Lowe's because they were offering a good
> > price, a free haul-away of my old one, and a gift card. I would be
> > really surprised if it had any kind of computer in it...it has
> > regular dials and nothing digital on the top. My dryer is also a
> > Whirlpool, bought at the same time.
> >
> The old one was a Cosby, apparently made by Maytag. I wish I had known
> that before I bought it. The new one is a Sumsung that was on sale... at
> least that is the way it was being marketed. Thanks to my repeat
> business they are dropped $50 off the delivery and no charge to take
> away the old one. It is a top loader. They have a number of machines
> with regular looking dials, but they are actually connected to
> computerized controls, not mechanical switches. I had not realized that
> newer washing machines no longer have those big agitators.

Not only do they not have big agitators, they also use very little water during their wash cycles. It's a little shocking. My guess is that you can still get a machine that uses gallons and gallons of water. Just look for a machine that has an old style tall agitator.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 14:40:03 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>On 2019-02-13 1:52 p.m., Nancy2 wrote:
>> I have a Whirlpool top loading washer (since 2010), and have had no
>> trouble at all. It has an extra large tub, and it wasn't very
>> expensive...I got it at Lowe's because they were offering a good
>> price, a free haul-away of my old one, and a gift card. I would be
>> really surprised if it had any kind of computer in it...it has
>> regular dials and nothing digital on the top. My dryer is also a
>> Whirlpool, bought at the same time.
>>
>The old one was a Cosby, apparently made by Maytag. I wish I had known
>that before I bought it. The new one is a Sumsung that was on sale... at
>least that is the way it was being marketed. Thanks to my repeat
>business they are dropped $50 off the delivery and no charge to take
>away the old one. It is a top loader. They have a number of machines
>with regular looking dials, but they are actually connected to
>computerized controls, not mechanical switches. I had not realized that
>newer washing machines no longer have those big agitators.

I have a Samsung. It has been churning out washing for seven people
for about 3 years now. It performs well.

As to the agitator, or lack thereof, it will tie your washing up in
knots sometimes.

JB

On 2/13/2019 1:52 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> I have a Whirlpool top loading washer (since 2010), and have had no trouble at all. It has an
> extra large tub, and it wasn't very expensive...I got it at Lowe's because they were offering a
> good price, a free haul-away of my old one, and a gift card. I would be really surprised if it had any kind
> of computer in it...it has regular dials and nothing digital on the top. My dryer is also a
> Whirlpool, bought at the same time.

I have a Whirlpool set about the same age. So far so good, one dryer
repair. I looked at the sexy new front loaders but opted for the
plain old fashioned kind because those new ones take Way Too Long to
complete the wash cycle.

nancy

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 11:18:21 AM UTC-5, Nancy Young wrote:
> On 2/13/2019 1:52 PM, Nancy2 wrote:
> > I have a Whirlpool top loading washer (since 2010), and have had no trouble at all. It has an
> > extra large tub, and it wasn't very expensive...I got it at Lowe's because they were offering a
> > good price, a free haul-away of my old one, and a gift card. I would be really surprised if it had any kind
> > of computer in it...it has regular dials and nothing digital on the top. My dryer is also a
> > Whirlpool, bought at the same time.
>
> I have a Whirlpool set about the same age. So far so good, one dryer
> repair. I looked at the sexy new front loaders but opted for the
> plain old fashioned kind because those new ones take Way Too Long to
> complete the wash cycle.
>
> nancy

Agreed. My top-loader and dryer take about the same amount of time
to cycle for all but the heaviest items. Pipelining the laundry on
the weekend works out very well.

Cindy Hamilton

Nancy, my other problem with front loaders is I don't trust a thorough wash unless it uses plenty
of water. The front loaders in the laundromats use lots of water.

N.

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 1:28:07 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2019-02-13 1:13 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:53:59 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >> Why to appliances all die at the same time?
> >
> > Just to **** you off.
> >
> > Can you get one of these?
> >
> > <https://www.speedqueen.com/products/top-load-washers.aspx>
> >
>
> I looked at one of them. They sure ain't cheap.

No, they're not cheap, but they wear like iron and front-loaders
are even more expensive. My last Speed Queen was 17 when my
husband got tired of replacing belts and whatnot. Someone
with more fortitude is probably still using it.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> No, they're not cheap, but they wear like iron and front-loaders
> are even more expensive. My last Speed Queen was 17 when my
> husband got tired of replacing belts and whatnot. Someone
> with more fortitude is probably still using it.

I like their marketing "Built to last 25 years" (but 5 year
warranty). 17 years and multiple part replacements isn't a glowing
endorsement, IMO. My Kenmore has doubled that lifetime (33 years)
for half the price (in 1986 dollars) and no part replacements or
service calls at all (knock on wood). But I've only ever bought one
washer in my lifetime so I'm a fortunate newbie and didn't realize
this wasn't typical.

-sw

On 2/13/2019 11:14 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> No, they're not cheap, but they wear like iron and front-loaders
>> are even more expensive. My last Speed Queen was 17 when my
>> husband got tired of replacing belts and whatnot. Someone
>> with more fortitude is probably still using it.
>
> I like their marketing "Built to last 25 years" (but 5 year
> warranty). 17 years and multiple part replacements isn't a glowing
> endorsement, IMO. My Kenmore has doubled that lifetime (33 years)
> for half the price (in 1986 dollars) and no part replacements or
> service calls at all (knock on wood). But I've only ever bought one
> washer in my lifetime so I'm a fortunate newbie and didn't realize
> this wasn't typical.
>
> -sw
>

Better that average/ I've bought 4 in 52 years and the last one is
still running. In the end, close to your 17 years. First one was 15
years and still running when we moved. All Maytag Bought new ones here
because it just made more sense than hauling them.

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:13:27 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:36:46 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > No, they're not cheap, but they wear like iron and front-loaders
> > are even more expensive. My last Speed Queen was 17 when my
> > husband got tired of replacing belts and whatnot. Someone
> > with more fortitude is probably still using it.
>
> I like their marketing "Built to last 25 years" (but 5 year
> warranty). 17 years and multiple part replacements isn't a glowing
> endorsement, IMO. My Kenmore has doubled that lifetime (33 years)
> for half the price (in 1986 dollars) and no part replacements or
> service calls at all (knock on wood). But I've only ever bought one
> washer in my lifetime so I'm a fortunate newbie and didn't realize
> this wasn't typical.

I expect belts and stuff to wear out, just as they do on cars.

Cindy Hamilton

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:55:37 -0500, Dave Smith
> wrote:

>Why to appliances all die at the same time?
>We had been having trouble with our washing machine occasionally
>refusing to spin. Sometimes it helped to unplug it and let the computer
>reset. Sometimes not. The repairman came to look at it and of course it
>worked for him. He said it might be the door lock. He would order it.
>When it came in he called to let us know but said if it was working
>maybe we should not bother. A couple weeks later it acted up again. He
>came and installed then new part and it worked. That was almost about
>2-1/2 months ago. Last night it screwed up again.
>
>Having spent over $600 in repairs in the last year and a half I didn't
>see any point in another expensive repair. My wife never liked that
>washer anyway. It was a front loader and needed frequent treatment for
>the stink those things are subject to.
>
>That's four major appliances I have had to buy since Christmas.
>Hopefully I won't be needing any more appliances for a while.

>
>On Christmas morning I did a load of laundry

It's the law of nature. I had the fridge, computer and food processor
all go within a week.

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 6:53:59 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> Why to appliances all die at the same time?
> We had been having trouble with our washing machine occasionally
> refusing to spin. Sometimes it helped to unplug it and let the computer
> reset. Sometimes not. The repairman came to look at it and of course it
> worked for him. He said it might be the door lock. He would order it.
> When it came in he called to let us know but said if it was working
> maybe we should not bother. A couple weeks later it acted up again. He
> came and installed then new part and it worked. That was almost about
> 2-1/2 months ago. Last night it screwed up again.
>
> Having spent over $600 in repairs in the last year and a half I didn't
> see any point in another expensive repair. My wife never liked that
> washer anyway. It was a front loader and needed frequent treatment for
> the stink those things are subject to.
>
> That's four major appliances I have had to buy since Christmas.
> Hopefully I won't be needing any more appliances for a while.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Christmas morning I did a load of laundry

At one time we had a dream of all Korean appliances. That has pretty much fallen by the wayside. I replaced our LG front loader washer with a Maytag top loader. I like it better in operation than the front loader and as an added bonus, the new washer cost about half of what the LG cost us. Just call me older and wiser.

writes:

>Having spent over $600 in repairs in the last year and a half I didn't
>see any point in another expensive repair. My wife never liked that
>washer anyway. It was a front loader and needed frequent treatment for
>the stink those things are subject to.

my front load washer doesn't smell because I leave the door open when
not in use, as directed - and I use the right amount of detergent

it'll be 13 years old this summer

On 2/13/2019 4:15 PM, tert in seattle wrote:

> my front load washer doesn't smell because I leave the door open when
> not in use, as directed - and I use the right amount of detergent
>
Yes. And an occasional 'boil wash' can also help.

On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:55:37 -0500, Dave Smith wrote:

> On Christmas morning I did a load of laundry

That's at least the second time you've told us this fascinating
tidbit (and I only read 1/10th of your posts). 5 years from now
you'll still be reminiscing about that load of laundry you did on
Christmas morning 2018. Don't forget, your wife was mopping the
kitchen floor, too. That makes your post twice as exciting.

ObWasher: Sears Kenmore Series 70 model 110. Did the first load in
it in 1986 and it's averaged 3 full-size loads a week ever since (4
just in the past 24 hours). That's 1,716 loads. Or $.17/load +
water and electricity. Not a single service call in 33 years for
either the washer or the matching dryer (240V electric). The only
complaint I have is when I load up the whites and I accidentally put
one leg of my briefs over the agitator. Then your dick and balls
flap to one side while I prefer my package to be a little more
secure.

I've also had 2 microwaves in my lifetime, both Kenmore. I
inherited the big 'ol convection microwave we bought when I was 10
years old and lasted me until I was about 32 or 34. It was the
console TV of microwaves, could fit a 24lb turkey easily. Bought a
replacement Sunbeam from Walmart that lasted 24 hours before I
returned it. Spent the extra $130 and got another Kenmore that's
lasted 20 years.

I'm gonna miss Sears Kenmore. I know Sears doesn't make Kenmore but
they're farmed out to the names brands. But they're made to Sears
spec - No frills, reliable, and probably better than any of the
models that come out of that same name brand factory (I think the
washer/dryer are a White Westinghouse, IIRC).

It would be nice of this damned 33 year old General Electric
dishwater would break. I've been having to rely on it much more
since I have nerve pain in my arms and can't wash dishes by hand as
well.

-sw

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:53:59 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> Why to appliances all die at the same time?
> We had been having trouble with our washing machine occasionally
> refusing to spin. Sometimes it helped to unplug it and let the computer
> reset. Sometimes not. The repairman came to look at it and of course it
> worked for him. He said it might be the door lock. He would order it.
> When it came in he called to let us know but said if it was working
> maybe we should not bother. A couple weeks later it acted up again. He
> came and installed then new part and it worked. That was almost about
> 2-1/2 months ago. Last night it screwed up again.
>
> Having spent over $600 in repairs in the last year and a half I didn't
> see any point in another expensive repair. My wife never liked that
> washer anyway. It was a front loader and needed frequent treatment for
> the stink those things are subject to.
>
> That's four major appliances I have had to buy since Christmas.
> Hopefully I won't be needing any more appliances for a while.
>
my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run together.. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over the www for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a new one. so next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8 years. it's not the cable or the box it's the tv.

On 3/2/2019 7:15 AM, A Moose in Love wrote:

>>
> my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run together. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over the www for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a new one. so next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8 years. it's not the cable or the box it's the tv.
>

So 8 years later, with inflation, your new TV will be twice the size and
less than half the cost.

Oh, the best time to buy a TV is a couple of weeks after I do. The
price will be lower. I guarantee it.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Oh, the best time to buy a TV is a couple of weeks after I do. The
> price will be lower. I guarantee it.

lol So true, Ed. Happened to me many times.

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 10:31:29 -0500, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 3/2/2019 7:15 AM, A Moose in Love wrote:
>
>>>
>> my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run together. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over the www for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a new one. so next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8 years. it's not the cable or the box it's the tv.
>>
>
>So 8 years later, with inflation, your new TV will be twice the size and
>less than half the cost.

Eight years is a long time for a flat panel TV, most are lucky to last
5-6 years. And they are not truly reparable other than tweaking the
settings and that their tech can guide you through by phone. If it's
on cable your cable tech may be able to correct it. Often settings
can be impacted from a power outage, so it may only need to be
returned to factory settings.

>Oh, the best time to buy a TV is a couple of weeks after I do. The
>price will be lower. I guarantee it.

Yeah, but what if that is all the way out to Christmas, he may not
want to go some eight months with no TV. We've found the best deals
are at Walmart, they have an agreement with Vizio that they sell tv's
without certain features like Picture in Picture, no one uses that
feature anyway and you'll save like $200. We have four Vizios in the
house, all give an excellent picture and are long lived.

A hint to protect electronics is to hook each TV to its own APC
battery back up and an APC surge protector. A battery back up
prevents electronics from crashing, gives one plenty of time to power
down properly... and with cheapo stupidmarket surge protectors you're
just fooling yourself, gives a false sense of security when in fact
they really don't work after 2-3 power surges. I have my desk top PC,
all its perifials, and my 26" VIZIO TV protected with this:
https://www.amazon.com/APC-Back-UPS-...r=8-3-fkmrnull

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 04:15:37 -0800 (PST), A Moose in Love
> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 11:53:59 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>> Why to appliances all die at the same time?
>> We had been having trouble with our washing machine occasionally
>> refusing to spin. Sometimes it helped to unplug it and let the computer
>> reset. Sometimes not. The repairman came to look at it and of course it
>> worked for him. He said it might be the door lock. He would order it.
>> When it came in he called to let us know but said if it was working
>> maybe we should not bother. A couple weeks later it acted up again. He
>> came and installed then new part and it worked. That was almost about
>> 2-1/2 months ago. Last night it screwed up again.
>>
>> Having spent over $600 in repairs in the last year and a half I didn't
>> see any point in another expensive repair. My wife never liked that
>> washer anyway. It was a front loader and needed frequent treatment for
>> the stink those things are subject to.
>>
>> That's four major appliances I have had to buy since Christmas.
>> Hopefully I won't be needing any more appliances for a while.
>>
>my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run together. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over the www for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a new one. so next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8 years. it's not the cable or the box it's the tv.


Just some friendly advice.... Walmart or target has like a 55' TCL
(may be even bigger now) for like 3-4 hundy. I bought one about oh I
dont know a year ago and it is still working well.. sure it has some
quirks but it still is going strong. Oh wait I bought it about 1.5
years ago I remember now because about half a year after I bought it I
went to walmart on a black friday sale and they had a vizio surround
sound bluetooth speaker setup with a subwoofer for like a hundred
dollars and they usually run like 250 and now I have complete
entertainment system. I dont even pay for cable because there is no
use for it. I get my local channels through antenna for news and the
pbs stations and I add what ever network apps that I want. There are
tons of free ones that would literally allow me to watch movies or TV
series 24 hours a day everyday of the year without ever watching the
same one twice. Now I will say that I do pay for netflix and I do have
Amazon prime because I wanted the free 2 day shipping but you also get
the Amazon prime movies with that, so that's a plus. The TV though
updates regularly I remember my last "smart" TV was not so smart
because when youtube switched their software to a newer version of
html or whatever I could no longer watch youtube on my TV and that
sucks because there are tons of great cooking shows on there... I
watch americas test kitchen, tasty, munchies, sam the cooking guy...
along with several sailing channels and several bushcraft channels...

Anyway back to the TV, the quirks that I spoke of are sometimes when I
turn the TV on I dont always get sound through my vizio speakers and I
usually have to turn the TV of and back on again but I think there may
be a problem because the two are totally different brands.... because
the speaker system is supposed to turn on with the television but it
does not always do that.

And that is enough about that.


--

____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____

A Moose in Love wrote:
>
> my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run together. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over the www for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a new one. so next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8 years. it's not the cable or the box it's the tv.

Well don't buy that brand again. Here's one opinion of a new TV
for you.

I bought an "Element" brand tv from Target over 12 years ago. It
was a sale one that I had never heard of but it turned out to be
an excellent brand. After 12 years it still works perfectly. The
key factor here is how many hours has it run and this tv has
logged way more hours than the average tv.

Only time I ever turn it off is when I go to work. When I'm not
working, it stays on 24/7. I don't watch it that darn much but I
just leave it on. The tv is just my little bedroom buddy. heheh
Point here is that hour wise this is definitely the "Energizer"
TV. It keeps on going and going.

If this one ever stops working, I'll buy another Element. They
have proven their quality to me and I highly recommend the brand.

On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 11:13:11 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> A Moose in Love wrote:
> >
> > my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run together. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over the www for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a new one. so next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8 years. it's not the cable or the box it's the tv.
>
> Well don't buy that brand again. Here's one opinion of a new TV
> for you.
>
> I bought an "Element" brand tv from Target over 12 years ago. It
> was a sale one that I had never heard of but it turned out to be
> an excellent brand. After 12 years it still works perfectly. The
> key factor here is how many hours has it run and this tv has
> logged way more hours than the average tv.
>
> Only time I ever turn it off is when I go to work. When I'm not
> working, it stays on 24/7. I don't watch it that darn much but I
> just leave it on. The tv is just my little bedroom buddy. heheh
> Point here is that hour wise this is definitely the "Energizer"
> TV. It keeps on going and going.
>
> If this one ever stops working, I'll buy another Element. They
> have proven their quality to me and I highly recommend the brand.

i inheritied a 55" LG. i'd rather get a smaller tv. lg's have a good price, but i don't like the fact that it only lasted 8 years.

On 3/2/2019 11:26 AM, A Moose in Love wrote:

>
> i inheritied a 55" LG. i'd rather get a smaller tv. lg's have a good price, but i don't like the fact that it only lasted 8 years.
>

I've seen numbers from 30,000 hours to 100,000 hours life expectancy.

Reality is, no matter the brand, size, conditions of use, there will be
some that breakdown much faster, others that will go much longer. That
is true of TVs, automobiles, cameras, bulldozers, computers, and every
other man made item on earth.

A Moose in Love wrote:
>
> Gary wrote:
> > If this one ever stops working, I'll buy another Element. They
> > have proven their quality to me and I highly recommend the brand.
>
> i inheritied a 55" LG. i'd rather get a smaller tv. lg's have a good price, but i don't like the fact that it only lasted 8 years.

This Element tv I have is a 24". Great for sitting on the little
table right near my bed. I keep volume low at night so like the
'closed captions'. Easy to read on a 24 inch from only 3-4 feet
from my face.

I'll probably go to a 32" screen next time but no larger. Even a
24" replacement would be fine with me. As you've seen now, all
the sale ads for tvs are only for HUGE screens and are a joke for
many cases. Ignore the large screens and go for a smaller one.
Prices are low now especially for 32" and under.

When it comes to televisions, bigger is not always better. That
depends on size of your rooms and how you use them. In my small
bedroom, 32" or less works well. No tv in any other rooms here.

On 3/2/2019 11:13 AM, Gary wrote:
> A Moose in Love wrote:
>>
>> my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run together. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over the www for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a new one. so next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8 years. it's not the cable or the box it's the tv.
>
> Well don't buy that brand again. Here's one opinion of a new TV
> for you.
>
> I bought an "Element" brand tv from Target over 12 years ago. It
> was a sale one that I had never heard of but it turned out to be
> an excellent brand. After 12 years it still works perfectly. The
> key factor here is how many hours has it run and this tv has
> logged way more hours than the average tv.
>
> Only time I ever turn it off is when I go to work. When I'm not
> working, it stays on 24/7. I don't watch it that darn much but I
> just leave it on. The tv is just my little bedroom buddy. heheh
> Point here is that hour wise this is definitely the "Energizer"
> TV. It keeps on going and going.
>
> If this one ever stops working, I'll buy another Element. They
> have proven their quality to me and I highly recommend the brand.
>
I'm not sure how much brand actually matters. Most screens are made in
the same factory and most other electronics from another one or two and
they get assembled with a different brand sticker.

Buying today, I'd get an OLED and any other features that may be
important to me. I also use a sound bar. The thinner the TV, the
harder it is to get decent sound. Sound bar fixes that, in my case, I
often listen to music from YouTube so it sounds as good as it looks.

I have Samsung and LG TV's. Happy with both.

Oh, no matter what size you want, get the next one bigger and you won't
be sorry. I could not fit larger than 55" in my last house. Here, wish
it was a 65". I also wall mounted it too. Safer that way.

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Oh, no matter what size you want, get the next one bigger and you won't
> be sorry. I could not fit larger than 55" in my last house. Here, wish
> it was a 65". I also wall mounted it too. Safer that way.

I agree with the next size up. My 24" is small and only for
personal viewing in my bedroom. Even there, next one will be a
32" but no larger.

If I ever put one again in my living room it would be a 48". So
cheap enough on sale, these days.

On 3/2/2019 1:43 PM, Gary wrote:
> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>
>> Oh, no matter what size you want, get the next one bigger and you won't
>> be sorry. I could not fit larger than 55" in my last house. Here, wish
>> it was a 65". I also wall mounted it too. Safer that way.
>
> I agree with the next size up. My 24" is small and only for
> personal viewing in my bedroom. Even there, next one will be a
> 32" but no larger.
>
> If I ever put one again in my living room it would be a 48". So
> cheap enough on sale, these days.
>
Depends on the room size. Ours is a 47" that used to be in the family
room. It is on the opposite wall from the bed on top of a dresser,
comfortable to watch from bed.

"Gary" wrote in message ...

A Moose in Love wrote:
>
> my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run
> together. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over the www
> for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a new one. so
> next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8 years. it's not the
> cable or the box it's the tv.

Well don't buy that brand again. Here's one opinion of a new TV
for you.

I bought an "Element" brand tv from Target over 12 years ago. It
was a sale one that I had never heard of but it turned out to be
an excellent brand. After 12 years it still works perfectly. The
key factor here is how many hours has it run and this tv has
logged way more hours than the average tv.

Only time I ever turn it off is when I go to work. When I'm not
working, it stays on 24/7. I don't watch it that darn much but I
just leave it on. The tv is just my little bedroom buddy. heheh
Point here is that hour wise this is definitely the "Energizer"
TV. It keeps on going and going.

If this one ever stops working, I'll buy another Element. They
have proven their quality to me and I highly recommend the brand.

==

I couldn't leave my tv on all that time. We turn it on for something we
want to watch and then turn it off when finished)

Does it never annoy you?

The only thing I have running is some music turned down very low)

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I couldn't leave my tv on all that time. We turn it on for something we
> want to watch and then turn it off when finished)
>
> Does it never annoy you?

Not having it on is what will annoy me. I like the background
noise.

>
> The only thing I have running is some music turned down very low)

Doesn't that music turned down annoy you?

"Gary" wrote in message ...

Ophelia wrote:
>
> I couldn't leave my tv on all that time. We turn it on for something we
> want to watch and then turn it off when finished)
>
> Does it never annoy you?

Not having it on is what will annoy me. I like the background
noise.

>
> The only thing I have running is some music turned down very low)

Doesn't that music turned down annoy you?

==

lol

Gary wrote:

> A Moose in Love wrote:
> >
> > my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run
> > together. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over
> > the www for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a
> > new one. so next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8
> > years. it's not the cable or the box it's the tv.
>
> Well don't buy that brand again. Here's one opinion of a new TV
> for you.
>
> I bought an "Element" brand tv from Target over 12 years ago. It
> was a sale one that I had never heard of but it turned out to be
> an excellent brand. After 12 years it still works perfectly. The
> key factor here is how many hours has it run and this tv has
> logged way more hours than the average tv.
>
> Only time I ever turn it off is when I go to work. When I'm not
> working, it stays on 24/7. I don't watch it that darn much but I
> just leave it on. The tv is just my little bedroom buddy. heheh
> Point here is that hour wise this is definitely the "Energizer"
> TV. It keeps on going and going.
>
> If this one ever stops working, I'll buy another Element. They
> have proven their quality to me and I highly recommend the brand.

I had same brand and only recenty upgraded from it. Still working, it
went to lady with 3 kids and only an ol style smallr tube TV.

On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 2:15:41 AM UTC-10, A Moose in Love wrote:
> my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run together. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over the www for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a new one. so next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8 years. it's not the cable or the box it's the tv.

My guess is that in a few years, OLED TV will take over the market. We are now in a transition period. You can probably get a pretty good dirt cheap LCD TV now but I expect that you'd want to get an OLED model in a few years when they become dirt cheap. You're probably going to get blown away with either types of TVs.

On 2019-03-02 9:52 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, March 2, 2019 at 2:15:41 AM UTC-10, A Moose in Love wrote:
>> my flat screen tv; the colours all of a sudden they started to run together. i thought about getting a repairman, and went all over the www for advice. i've been told that it's better to purchase a new one. so next week it's off to bestbuy. this tv lasted only 8 years. it's not the cable or the box it's the tv.
>
> My guess is that in a few years, OLED TV will take over the market. We are now in a transition period. You can probably get a pretty good dirt cheap LCD TV now but I expect that you'd want to get an OLED model in a few years when they become dirt cheap. You're probably going to get blown away with either types of TVs.
>
I still use a CRT model. I have thought about getting a flat screen
monster but why waste money on all the crap that passes as entertainment