Bruce wrote:
>
> Yes, but Cindy sounded like she's proud of supporting nasty
> corporations.

She invests in them. She makes good retirement money. That's what
everyone hopes to do. To boycott a corporation that wins is dumb.
Some people here won't buy from the evil Walmart but their little
protest means nothing to Walmart. Walmart still wins. The
protesters pay more for products from somewhere else. It makes
them feel good but won't change a thing.

>
> >> By the way, what would happen to the world if all civilised countries
> >> stopped procreating and all barbaric countries continued to breed like
> >> rabbits?
> >
> >D.Trump: We nuke the evil *******s.
>
> I count the US as a civilised country, but Trump should be the
> President of a country like Yemen or Saudi-Arabia.

My prediction: He will never be re-elected and I hope his VP will
never be elected either....or his barbie-doll daughter. It's time
for the Democrats to come up with a worthy opponent for the next
election. Not Al Gore, not Hillary...someone new and fresh.

It shouldn't be too hard to find someone better than Donald's
gang.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 07:42:29 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Yes, but Cindy sounded like she's proud of supporting nasty
>> corporations.
>
>She invests in them. She makes good retirement money. That's what
>everyone hopes to do. To boycott a corporation that wins is dumb.
>Some people here won't buy from the evil Walmart but their little
>protest means nothing to Walmart. Walmart still wins. The
>protesters pay more for products from somewhere else. It makes
>them feel good but won't change a thing.

Is anything more important than feeling good?

>> >> By the way, what would happen to the world if all civilised countries
>> >> stopped procreating and all barbaric countries continued to breed like
>> >> rabbits?
>> >
>> >D.Trump: We nuke the evil *******s.
>>
>> I count the US as a civilised country, but Trump should be the
>> President of a country like Yemen or Saudi-Arabia.
>
>My prediction: He will never be re-elected and I hope his VP will
>never be elected either....or his barbie-doll daughter. It's time
>for the Democrats to come up with a worthy opponent for the next
>election. Not Al Gore, not Hillary...someone new and fresh.
>
>It shouldn't be too hard to find someone better than Donald's
>gang.

It's hard to type this, but I think even the Republicans should be
able to do that.

Bruce wrote:
>
> Is anything more important than feeling good?

Hi Bruce, my friend. As far as investing your money, a
comfortable retirement is what makes you feel good. Ever had to
worry at end of month if you can just pay minimal bills? I have
and it's not a good thing.


>
> >It shouldn't be too hard to find someone better than Donald's
> >gang.
>
> It's hard to type this, but I think even the Republicans should be
> able to do that.

I suspect the Republicans also want to get away from this
nonsense. Next election should really be an interesting one.
Notice too the feud between Trump and the Press. They are after
his ass daily on the news. heheheh... Trump will probably
Twitter away his claim to fame.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:06:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Is anything more important than feeling good?
>
>Hi Bruce, my friend. As far as investing your money, a
>comfortable retirement is what makes you feel good. Ever had to
>worry at end of month if you can just pay minimal bills? I have
>and it's not a good thing.

Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.

>> >It shouldn't be too hard to find someone better than Donald's
>> >gang.
>>
>> It's hard to type this, but I think even the Republicans should be
>> able to do that.
>
>I suspect the Republicans also want to get away from this
>nonsense. Next election should really be an interesting one.
>Notice too the feud between Trump and the Press. They are after
>his ass daily on the news. heheheh... Trump will probably
>Twitter away his claim to fame.

I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:28:19 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:21:19 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 22:53:07 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>wrote:
>>
> wrote in message
...
>
>>>> To me, it was only natural my mother would come to me, she couldn't
>>>> continue living in Spain without my father. In my book, elder people
>>>> die at home and I intend to do so myself, one way or another. I didn't
>>>> regard it as a burden or duty, just doing what comes naturally.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, people used to do that a lot more than they do now. My grandmother and
>>>my uncle lived with us most of our lives, up until the time they died. I
>>>have wonderful memories of both of them.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>>I felt it was good for our kids, not only did they get to really know
>>each other but it bred some tolerance into my kids for older people.
>>Some things had to be sacrificed but it didn't harm any of us.
>
>I thought for a long time that old people were a special kind of
>people that were born old. Only now that I'm starting to get older
>myself do I realise that old people were once young. I now have more
>sympathy for them.

Lol - I think there was a lot to be said for parents being nursed by
kids towards the end, I suppose because I grew up mostly in the far
east it didn't seem that unusual to me.

I still find myself somewhat surprised at the way north America
handles death. You are supposed to say 'passed' not 'died', 'casket'
not 'coffin' etc. it's almost as if they pretend the dead are not
really dead, just resting. I won't go to these funeral parlour do's,
find them most distasteful, although they say the big $5,000+ funerals
are themselves now dying, it's to be hoped

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:13:19 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:06:23 -0400, Gary > wrote:
>
>>Bruce wrote:
>>>
>>> Is anything more important than feeling good?
>>
>>Hi Bruce, my friend. As far as investing your money, a
>>comfortable retirement is what makes you feel good. Ever had to
>>worry at end of month if you can just pay minimal bills? I have
>>and it's not a good thing.
>
>Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
>Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
>
>>> >It shouldn't be too hard to find someone better than Donald's
>>> >gang.
>>>
>>> It's hard to type this, but I think even the Republicans should be
>>> able to do that.
>>
>>I suspect the Republicans also want to get away from this
>>nonsense. Next election should really be an interesting one.
>>Notice too the feud between Trump and the Press. They are after
>>his ass daily on the news. heheheh... Trump will probably
>>Twitter away his claim to fame.
>
>I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
>Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
>internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.

I am hopeful that his grass root support, who sincerely believed he
could bring their jobs back, will be getting thin on the ground now as
they watch him going for a massive great deal for himself and the
Trump family in general and no jobs have arrived.

On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 7:01:32 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 03:41:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> > wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 5:19:59 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 09:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 10:51:12 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> >> >> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 4:49:14 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> >> > > I inherited most of my inheritance in stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc. Upon On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 1:26:38 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
> >> >> ...
> >> >> > > Let's get this straight, you are evidently very confused.
> >> >> > >getting possession OF my inherited stocks, etc. I immediately off $150,000 worth of the most heinous stocks my father owned. Stuff like OIL stocks, BofA, Phizer,etc. EVIL corporate stocks like that that I will NEVER support now that they are MY dollars!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Not to worry, John. Those shares didn't vanish. Someone else bought them,
> >> >> > and the corporations are ticking along just fine without you.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cindy Hamilton
> >> >>
> >> >> I know, but at least MY (new inherited) dollars are NOT SUPPORTING THOSE EVIL CORPORATIONS ANYMORE!! Just like I NEVER spend ANY of MY DOLLARS at MalWart, McCraps, etc!!
> >> >>
> >> >> What are YOU supporting with YOUR DOLLARS?!
> >> >
> >> >Quite a lot of things. For simplicity, let's say it's everything in
> >> >the S&P 500. I also bank at BofA, buy pharmaceuticals from Pfizer,
> >> >and put quite a bit of oil through my mid-size SUV.
> >> >
> >> >Oh, and the military-industrial complex pays my salary and that of
> >> >my husband.
> >>
> >> You once said you're a sociopath, so it makes sense that you don't
> >> care about the consequences of your actions.
> >
> >In practical terms what difference would it make? Someone else would
> >have my job. I have to bank somewhere. BofA isn't going to suffer
> >if I close my account. My husband needs those prescriptions. And
> >the SUV? I suppose I could get a smaller one, but I need that AWD
> >to get out of my driveway in the winter to go to my job.
> >
> >I did refrain from putting any more people on this planet, so I'm
> >way ahead there. I probably could idle my SUV in the driveway
> >all day long and still come out ahead on my planetary impact.
>
> You have a point, but just because you do one thing right, does that
> mean you can do everything else wrong?

Look at the relative magnitude of the "right" and the "wrong".
Not having kids benefits the planet forever. Owning a mid-size
SUV is in the noise.

> By the way, what would happen to the world if all civilised countries
> stopped procreating and all barbaric countries continued to breed like
> rabbits?

You mean they haven't already?

Cindy Hamilton

On 2017-07-23 10:20 PM, jmcquown wrote:

>> Wow, sorry your father could not hang on to die at a more convenient
>> time. But thanks for the tip. I'll check with my kids before I die to
>> be sure it fits their schedule.
>
> I'm still irritated about this. What son asks his mother to reschedule
> a funeral because he has meetings? How insensitive.


We rescheduled my mother's service around my brother's vacation plans.
He and his wife had been planning for months for a trip to England and
Ireland and was scheduled to leave a day or two after the day she died.
My mother would never have wanted anyone to miss out on a vacation for a
funeral. She would not even contact people who were away on vacation to
tell them about a death.
My father's service was postponed for a few days so that it would be on
a Saturday to that grandchildren would not have to take time off work or
school.

On 2017-07-24 6:48 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>

> Really and truly. What employer wouldn't say, "Your father died? Go!"
> As if the marketing meeting couldn't continue without him. (laugh)


I can think of one. That would be the supervisor I had at the time my
father died. I had been responsible for planning a special initiative
that was to take place on a particular date. I talked to The Twit on
Friday about my father's situation. There was no compassion or concern
for me or my father. All he wanted to know was if we were going to be
able to go ahead with it.

The Twit died a shortly after I retired. A former co-worker called and
asked if I wanted to go with him to the visitation. Nope. No way I
would honour him in death after than nonsense.

On 7/24/2017 7:01 AM, Bruce wrote:

>
> By the way, what would happen to the world if all civilised countries
> stopped procreating and all barbaric countries continued to breed like
> rabbits?
>

I think that is happening, but slowly right now. Give it another couple
of generations.

On 7/24/2017 8:59 AM, wrote:

>
> I still find myself somewhat surprised at the way north America
> handles death. You are supposed to say 'passed' not 'died', 'casket'
> not 'coffin' etc. it's almost as if they pretend the dead are not
> really dead, just resting. I won't go to these funeral parlour do's,
> find them most distasteful, although they say the big $5,000+ funerals
> are themselves now dying, it's to be hoped
>

Funerals are where you go to socialize with friends and family you'd not
cared about for the past few years. They you say "it is so good to see
you" but you won't bother with them again until the next funeral.

You can also prearrange your funeral too. That way you get to pick the
coffin you really want with all the fancy trim. If you are going to
bury a box never to be seen again, it should be a fancy one.

On 7/24/2017 7:29 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/24/2017 7:01 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
>>
>> By the way, what would happen to the world if all civilised countries
>> stopped procreating and all barbaric countries continued to breed like
>> rabbits?
>>
>
> I think that is happening, but slowly right now. Give it another couple
> of generations.
>


slowly? are you kidding?

On 7/24/2017 7:09 AM, Gary wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> There are many reasons I do not speak to this selfish brother.
>
> Just reading what I snipped, I don't blame you. Just because he's
> your brother/blood doesn't mean he's worth dealing with. As
> Sheldon once said, "hell with humans, animals are the ones worth
> caring for. They love you unconditionally and don't try to screw
> you." Not an exact quote but the idea is there. I agree with him.
>
Just because he's a sibling doesn't mean I have to like him. Odd thing
is, this brother and I were roommates when we were in our 20's. We got
along fine. He did his thing, I did mine. We split the bills. No real
problems. I taught him how to cook.

People change. Not always for the better. This brother has
conveniently forgotten the things I did for him when he needed help. He
couldn't be bothered to help take care of our parents, either.

Jill

On 2017-07-24 11:44 AM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/24/2017 7:09 AM, Gary wrote:

> Just because he's a sibling doesn't mean I have to like him. Odd thing
> is, this brother and I were roommates when we were in our 20's. We got
> along fine. He did his thing, I did mine. We split the bills. No real
> problems. I taught him how to cook.
>
> People change. Not always for the better. This brother has
> conveniently forgotten the things I did for him when he needed help. He
> couldn't be bothered to help take care of our parents, either.


Funny how people forget about the things you did for them have no
problem at all rejecting reciprocation in any way. I have one brother
that lives a few miles from me and I have helped him with all sorts of
things around his house. I helped him build a fence. I helped him lay
patio blocks, build a bathroom and a rec room. When we acquired my
wife's family dining room suite I made arrangements to rent a truck and
drive the 90 miles to get it and for him to come over and help me unload
it and get it into the house. It snowed on the way there and the way
back and I was back home before noon and called him to let him know I
was home and ready to unload. He backed out on me, citing the snowy
roads. I had just driven 180 miles of snowy highway in a rented truck
and he could not come three miles in his own car.

We are talking a very large solid oak side board and a solid oak trestle
table. Luckily, the sideboard drawers and the table top and leaves were
removable. Being so angry about him letting me down gave me the strength
to carry the stuff in single handed. That was pretty much the end of
helping him.

In article >, cshenk1
@cox.net says...
>
> Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
>
> > In article >, cshenk1
> > @cox.net says...
> > >
> > > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > > Have fun sheriffing your little fiefdom. My guess is that it'll be
> > > > hell for the tenants.
> > >
> > > ds1, he's basically got a house and has roomates. Its not a new
> > > situaton.
> >
> > It's a completely new situation. Before, they were all in the same
> > boat; slated the landlord for all the problems in the property.
> >
> > When John becomes the owner/landlord
> >
> > a) he becomes the target for every tiny criticism by tenants

> > b) he's likely to criticise tenants for every little damage or
> > breakage they inflict on his newly renovated property
> >
> > c) The nature of John's illness can make dealing with personal
> > disagreements very difficult for both parties.
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> So, you've never been the primary who took in roommates?

As usual, you couldn't be more wrong.

There's nothing much I don't know about managing tenants (legally,
socially or practical housekeeping) from my many years of first-hand
experience as a landlady.

Janet UK

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> Bruce wrote:
>>
>> Is anything more important than feeling good?
>
> Hi Bruce, my friend. As far as investing your money, a
> comfortable retirement is what makes you feel good. Ever had to
> worry at end of month if you can just pay minimal bills? I have
> and it's not a good thing.

There's a reason why when asked, nobody ever says "I want to grow up to be
poor." In our married life I have been poor, not so poor, and
comfortable...but I wouldn't mind trying rich.

Cheri

"Gary" > wrote in message ...
> jmcquown wrote:
>>
>> There are many reasons I do not speak to this selfish brother.
>
> Just reading what I snipped, I don't blame you. Just because he's
> your brother/blood doesn't mean he's worth dealing with. As
> Sheldon once said, "hell with humans, animals are the ones worth
> caring for. They love you unconditionally and don't try to screw
> you." Not an exact quote but the idea is there. I agree with him.


Because they're totally subservient, what's not to like? You actually have
to use some people skills to interact with humans and some people are too
selfish to bother.

Cheri

On 7/24/2017 12:52 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>
> My mother was very sensitive about my dad's funeral, and insisted
> that he have a solid mahogany casket. There were two days of
> visitations, and a fairly lavish reception after the funeral.
>
> When my mother passed we decided on a far more modest casket, one day
> of viewing, and a very modest reception. I felt a little guilty in a
> way, because of what was spent on my dad's funeral, but I finally got
> over it.
>

For some, it is no expense spared for a big sendoff. Look at what the
Pharaohs did and the Chinese emperor with the clay soldiers.


I was surprised when making arrangements when my MIL passed. The
undertaker has taken care of all the other family and my wife knows the
son that now runs the place from school. He actually made suggestions
on how to save some money. The viewing was at the church for an hour
before the service instead of at the funeral home.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:52:32 -0400, Ed Pawlowski > wrote:

>On 7/24/2017 8:59 AM, wrote:
>
>>
>> I still find myself somewhat surprised at the way north America
>> handles death. You are supposed to say 'passed' not 'died', 'casket'
>> not 'coffin' etc. it's almost as if they pretend the dead are not
>> really dead, just resting. I won't go to these funeral parlour do's,
>> find them most distasteful, although they say the big $5,000+ funerals
>> are themselves now dying, it's to be hoped
>>
>
>Funerals are where you go to socialize with friends and family you'd not
>cared about for the past few years. They you say "it is so good to see
>you" but you won't bother with them again until the next funeral.
>
>You can also prearrange your funeral too. That way you get to pick the
>coffin you really want with all the fancy trim. If you are going to
>bury a box never to be seen again, it should be a fancy one.

My sentiments exactly.

On 2017-07-24 2:16 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/24/2017 12:52 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:

>> When my mother passed we decided on a far more modest casket, one day
>> of viewing, and a very modest reception. I felt a little guilty in a
>> way, because of what was spent on my dad's funeral, but I finally got
>> over it.
>>
>
> For some, it is no expense spared for a big sendoff. Look at what the
> Pharaohs did and the Chinese emperor with the clay soldiers.

Yeah, as if it was their own money they were spending. It was all to
glorify them and their dynasty, to help justify the taxes they levied
and enslaving the people to do the work.


> I was surprised when making arrangements when my MIL passed. The
> undertaker has taken care of all the other family and my wife knows the
> son that now runs the place from school. He actually made suggestions
> on how to save some money. The viewing was at the church for an hour
> before the service instead of at the funeral home.


We had no pressure planing my parents funerals. I went with my
brother when he organized our mother's cremation and memorial service.
My mother organized Dad's memorial service. It was a simple memorial
service in an old Anglican church in Niagara on the Lake. We were
surprised at the number of people who showed up for it. He didn't want
a service, but he ended up with two. He had wanted his ashes to be taken
to the war graves cemetery in Denmark where his crew mates had been
buried when their plane was shot down there. We thought it would be a
simple matter of showing up, having someone from the war graves
commission there to oversee it, including enforcing the rules about no
service, no stone, no press. The British Embassy got involved, arranged
the service, press and got the church council to put on a big dinner.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:04:23 -0300, wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:13:19 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
>>Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
>>
>>I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
>>Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
>>internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.
>
>I am hopeful that his grass root support, who sincerely believed he
>could bring their jobs back, will be getting thin on the ground now as
>they watch him going for a massive great deal for himself and the
>Trump family in general and no jobs have arrived.

Yes, he's the last guy to care about other people. I don't understand
how anybody could have thought Trump would help the little man. He
eats little men for breakfast.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 06:15:09 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> wrote:

>On Monday, July 24, 2017 at 7:01:32 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 03:41:38 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 5:19:59 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 09:28:32 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 10:51:12 AM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> >> >> On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 4:49:14 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> >> >> > > I inherited most of my inheritance in stocks, bonds, mutual funds, etc. Upon On Friday, July 21, 2017 at 1:26:38 PM UTC-4, John Kuthe wrote:
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> > > Let's get this straight, you are evidently very confused.
>> >> >> > >getting possession OF my inherited stocks, etc. I immediately off $150,000 worth of the most heinous stocks my father owned. Stuff like OIL stocks, BofA, Phizer,etc. EVIL corporate stocks like that that I will NEVER support now that they are MY dollars!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Not to worry, John. Those shares didn't vanish. Someone else bought them,
>> >> >> > and the corporations are ticking along just fine without you.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Cindy Hamilton
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I know, but at least MY (new inherited) dollars are NOT SUPPORTING THOSE EVIL CORPORATIONS ANYMORE!! Just like I NEVER spend ANY of MY DOLLARS at MalWart, McCraps, etc!!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> What are YOU supporting with YOUR DOLLARS?!
>> >> >
>> >> >Quite a lot of things. For simplicity, let's say it's everything in
>> >> >the S&P 500. I also bank at BofA, buy pharmaceuticals from Pfizer,
>> >> >and put quite a bit of oil through my mid-size SUV.
>> >> >
>> >> >Oh, and the military-industrial complex pays my salary and that of
>> >> >my husband.
>> >>
>> >> You once said you're a sociopath, so it makes sense that you don't
>> >> care about the consequences of your actions.
>> >
>> >In practical terms what difference would it make? Someone else would
>> >have my job. I have to bank somewhere. BofA isn't going to suffer
>> >if I close my account. My husband needs those prescriptions. And
>> >the SUV? I suppose I could get a smaller one, but I need that AWD
>> >to get out of my driveway in the winter to go to my job.
>> >
>> >I did refrain from putting any more people on this planet, so I'm
>> >way ahead there. I probably could idle my SUV in the driveway
>> >all day long and still come out ahead on my planetary impact.
>>
>> You have a point, but just because you do one thing right, does that
>> mean you can do everything else wrong?
>
>Look at the relative magnitude of the "right" and the "wrong".
>Not having kids benefits the planet forever. Owning a mid-size
>SUV is in the noise.

Yes.

>> By the way, what would happen to the world if all civilised countries
>> stopped procreating and all barbaric countries continued to breed like
>> rabbits?
>
>You mean they haven't already?

It's a work in progress.

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 06:09:15 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:04:23 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:13:19 +1000, Bruce >
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
>>>Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
>>>
>>>I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
>>>Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
>>>internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.
>>
>>I am hopeful that his grass root support, who sincerely believed he
>>could bring their jobs back, will be getting thin on the ground now as
>>they watch him going for a massive great deal for himself and the
>>Trump family in general and no jobs have arrived.
>
>Yes, he's the last guy to care about other people. I don't understand
>how anybody could have thought Trump would help the little man. He
>eats little men for breakfast.

He has a history of leaving all his bills with contractors unpaid
As I saw it, his campaign was built on fanning the flames of hatred
against any random thing.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 17:52:48 -0300, wrote:

>On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 06:09:15 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:04:23 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:13:19 +1000, Bruce >
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
>>>>Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
>>>>
>>>>I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
>>>>Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
>>>>internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.
>>>
>>>I am hopeful that his grass root support, who sincerely believed he
>>>could bring their jobs back, will be getting thin on the ground now as
>>>they watch him going for a massive great deal for himself and the
>>>Trump family in general and no jobs have arrived.
>>
>>Yes, he's the last guy to care about other people. I don't understand
>>how anybody could have thought Trump would help the little man. He
>>eats little men for breakfast.
>
>He has a history of leaving all his bills with contractors unpaid
>As I saw it, his campaign was built on fanning the flames of hatred
>against any random thing.

Including against traditional politics. I understand that people
wanted change. But they voted for change for the worse.

On 7/24/2017 1:56 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 17:52:48 -0300, wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 06:09:15 +1000, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:04:23 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:13:19 +1000, Bruce >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
>>>>> Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
>>>>> Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
>>>>> internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.
>>>>
>>>> I am hopeful that his grass root support, who sincerely believed he
>>>> could bring their jobs back, will be getting thin on the ground now as
>>>> they watch him going for a massive great deal for himself and the
>>>> Trump family in general and no jobs have arrived.
>>>
>>> Yes, he's the last guy to care about other people. I don't understand
>>> how anybody could have thought Trump would help the little man. He
>>> eats little men for breakfast.
>>
>> He has a history of leaving all his bills with contractors unpaid
>> As I saw it, his campaign was built on fanning the flames of hatred
>> against any random thing.
>
> Including against traditional politics. I understand that people
> wanted change. But they voted for change for the worse.
>


They voted to stick it in the eye of the mainstream politicians who just
couldn't get beyond same-old same-old. I think they succeeded, but I
don't know if the mainstream politicians are capable of anything else.
Perhaps some new, not quite yet mainstream politicians will come to the
fore.

On 2017-07-24 2:52 PM, wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 06:09:15 +1000, Bruce >
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:04:23 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:13:19 +1000, Bruce >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
>>>> Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
>>>> Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
>>>> internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.
>>>
>>> I am hopeful that his grass root support, who sincerely believed he
>>> could bring their jobs back, will be getting thin on the ground now as
>>> they watch him going for a massive great deal for himself and the
>>> Trump family in general and no jobs have arrived.
>>
>> Yes, he's the last guy to care about other people. I don't understand
>> how anybody could have thought Trump would help the little man. He
>> eats little men for breakfast.
>
> He has a history of leaving all his bills with contractors unpaid
> As I saw it, his campaign was built on fanning the flames of hatred
> against any random thing.
>
He is now acting like Mad King George 111.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:02:08 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 7/24/2017 1:56 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 17:52:48 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 06:09:15 +1000, Bruce >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:04:23 -0300, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:13:19 +1000, Bruce >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
>>>>>> Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
>>>>>> Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
>>>>>> internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am hopeful that his grass root support, who sincerely believed he
>>>>> could bring their jobs back, will be getting thin on the ground now as
>>>>> they watch him going for a massive great deal for himself and the
>>>>> Trump family in general and no jobs have arrived.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, he's the last guy to care about other people. I don't understand
>>>> how anybody could have thought Trump would help the little man. He
>>>> eats little men for breakfast.
>>>
>>> He has a history of leaving all his bills with contractors unpaid
>>> As I saw it, his campaign was built on fanning the flames of hatred
>>> against any random thing.
>>
>> Including against traditional politics. I understand that people
>> wanted change. But they voted for change for the worse.
>>
>
>
>They voted to stick it in the eye of the mainstream politicians who just
>couldn't get beyond same-old same-old. I think they succeeded, but I
>don't know if the mainstream politicians are capable of anything else.
>Perhaps some new, not quite yet mainstream politicians will come to the
>fore.

That would be a good outcome. A bit like turning shit into manure.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:06:23 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-07-24 2:52 PM, wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 06:09:15 +1000, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:04:23 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:13:19 +1000, Bruce >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
>>>>> Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
>>>>> Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
>>>>> internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.
>>>>
>>>> I am hopeful that his grass root support, who sincerely believed he
>>>> could bring their jobs back, will be getting thin on the ground now as
>>>> they watch him going for a massive great deal for himself and the
>>>> Trump family in general and no jobs have arrived.
>>>
>>> Yes, he's the last guy to care about other people. I don't understand
>>> how anybody could have thought Trump would help the little man. He
>>> eats little men for breakfast.
>>
>> He has a history of leaving all his bills with contractors unpaid
>> As I saw it, his campaign was built on fanning the flames of hatred
>> against any random thing.
>>
>He is now acting like Mad King George 111.

After number 110, you'd think it was time to think of a new name.

Gary wrote:
>jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>There are many reasons I do not speak to this selfish brother.
>
>Just reading what I snipped, I don't blame you. Just because he's
>your brother/blood doesn't mean he's worth dealing with. As
>Sheldon once said, "hell with humans, animals are the ones worth
>caring for. They love you unconditionally and don't try to screw
>you." Not an exact quote but the idea is there. I agree with him.

Thank you.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:28:19 +1000, Bruce >
wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:21:19 -0300, wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 22:53:07 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>wrote:
>>
> wrote in message
...
>
>>>> To me, it was only natural my mother would come to me, she couldn't
>>>> continue living in Spain without my father. In my book, elder people
>>>> die at home and I intend to do so myself, one way or another. I didn't
>>>> regard it as a burden or duty, just doing what comes naturally.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, people used to do that a lot more than they do now. My grandmother and
>>>my uncle lived with us most of our lives, up until the time they died. I
>>>have wonderful memories of both of them.
>>>
>>>Cheri
>>
>>I felt it was good for our kids, not only did they get to really know
>>each other but it bred some tolerance into my kids for older people.
>>Some things had to be sacrificed but it didn't harm any of us.
>
>I thought for a long time that old people were a special kind of
>people that were born old. Only now that I'm starting to get older
>myself do I realise that old people were once young. I now have more
>sympathy for them.

Way too late that you became intelligent... obviously still not
intelligent.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:21:53 -0400, wrote:

>On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 21:28:19 +1000, Bruce >
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:21:19 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 22:53:07 -0700, "Cheri" >
>>>wrote:
>>>
> wrote in message
m...
>>
>>>>> To me, it was only natural my mother would come to me, she couldn't
>>>>> continue living in Spain without my father. In my book, elder people
>>>>> die at home and I intend to do so myself, one way or another. I didn't
>>>>> regard it as a burden or duty, just doing what comes naturally.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, people used to do that a lot more than they do now. My grandmother and
>>>>my uncle lived with us most of our lives, up until the time they died. I
>>>>have wonderful memories of both of them.
>>>>
>>>>Cheri
>>>
>>>I felt it was good for our kids, not only did they get to really know
>>>each other but it bred some tolerance into my kids for older people.
>>>Some things had to be sacrificed but it didn't harm any of us.
>>
>>I thought for a long time that old people were a special kind of
>>people that were born old. Only now that I'm starting to get older
>>myself do I realise that old people were once young. I now have more
>>sympathy for them.
>
>Way too late that you became intelligent... obviously still not
>intelligent.

It's a work in progress.

On 7/24/2017 2:21 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
> On Mon 24 Jul 2017 11:16:59a, Ed Pawlowski told us...
>
>> On 7/24/2017 12:52 PM, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> My mother was very sensitive about my dad's funeral, and insisted
>>> that he have a solid mahogany casket. There were two days of
>>> visitations, and a fairly lavish reception after the funeral.
>>>
>>> When my mother passed we decided on a far more modest casket, one
>>> day of viewing, and a very modest reception. I felt a little
>>> guilty in a way, because of what was spent on my dad's funeral,
>>> but I finally got over it.
>>>
>>
>> For some, it is no expense spared for a big sendoff. Look at what
>> the Pharaohs did and the Chinese emperor with the clay soldiers.
>>
>>
>> I was surprised when making arrangements when my MIL passed. The
>> undertaker has taken care of all the other family and my wife
>> knows the son that now runs the place from school. He actually
>> made suggestions on how to save some money. The viewing was at
>> the church for an hour before the service instead of at the
>> funeral home.
>>
>
> Very sensible.
>
Both of my parents were cremated so there was no "viewing". The marble
urns weren't exactly cheap but Mom picked out one she thought Dad would
like. That was months before he died. I figured if she liked that urn
she'd probably like the same thing for herself.

There was a service for them outside at the cemetery. Under a canopy.
Dad was buried with full military honors. I felt very sorry for those
young Marines standing at attention holding rifles in the middle of a
horrific thunderstorm. (Can you say lightning rods?) My mother was
pretty much in shock. She didn't know what to do when the Marine knelt
down in front of her and presented the folded US flag. I had to whisper
to her, "Take it."

The funeral director also wanted to know if we wanted a black wreath to
hang on the door. Oh, how very Gone With the Wind-ish! Um, no thank you.

Jill

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:02:08 -0700, Taxed and Spent
> wrote:

>On 7/24/2017 1:56 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 17:52:48 -0300, wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 06:09:15 +1000, Bruce >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:04:23 -0300, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:13:19 +1000, Bruce >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
>>>>>> Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
>>>>>> Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
>>>>>> internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am hopeful that his grass root support, who sincerely believed he
>>>>> could bring their jobs back, will be getting thin on the ground now as
>>>>> they watch him going for a massive great deal for himself and the
>>>>> Trump family in general and no jobs have arrived.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, he's the last guy to care about other people. I don't understand
>>>> how anybody could have thought Trump would help the little man. He
>>>> eats little men for breakfast.
>>>
>>> He has a history of leaving all his bills with contractors unpaid
>>> As I saw it, his campaign was built on fanning the flames of hatred
>>> against any random thing.
>>
>> Including against traditional politics. I understand that people
>> wanted change. But they voted for change for the worse.
>>
>
>
>They voted to stick it in the eye of the mainstream politicians who just
>couldn't get beyond same-old same-old. I think they succeeded, but I
>don't know if the mainstream politicians are capable of anything else.
>Perhaps some new, not quite yet mainstream politicians will come to the
>fore.
>
True but Trump will do a huge amount of damage in the interim.

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:06:23 -0600, graham > wrote:

>On 2017-07-24 2:52 PM, wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 06:09:15 +1000, Bruce >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 10:04:23 -0300, wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:13:19 +1000, Bruce >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, money's very important if you don't have enough. Erst kommt das
>>>>> Fressen, dann kommt die Moral.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't think many people are happy with Trump, Republicans nor
>>>>> Democrats. Not to mention people who have to deal with him
>>>>> internationally. It's a protest vote gone wrong.
>>>>
>>>> I am hopeful that his grass root support, who sincerely believed he
>>>> could bring their jobs back, will be getting thin on the ground now as
>>>> they watch him going for a massive great deal for himself and the
>>>> Trump family in general and no jobs have arrived.
>>>
>>> Yes, he's the last guy to care about other people. I don't understand
>>> how anybody could have thought Trump would help the little man. He
>>> eats little men for breakfast.
>>
>> He has a history of leaving all his bills with contractors unpaid
>> As I saw it, his campaign was built on fanning the flames of hatred
>> against any random thing.
>>
>He is now acting like Mad King George 111.

At least he had a medical excuse

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/22/2017 10:05 PM, Alex wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 7/21/2017 10:00 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>> Dumping Pfizer was a bad move. I've made over $100K from that
>>>> stock in
>>>> the last 15 years to help fund my early retirement.
>>>
>>> I'm reminded of a very poor decision my father made many years ago. He
>>> was usually very shrewd about investments. But when Federal Express
>>> (now known as Fed-Ex) offered their first IPO it was suggested he buy
>>> a few shares. I remember him scoffing at the whole idea: "Who needs
>>> anything delivered overnight?" A couple of years later he was kicking
>>> himself.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> There are as many people who have made it big buying IPO's as there are
>> who have lost a lot. I got in the Go Pro IPO and made a few bucks and
>> was lucky to sell when I did. Same with Blue Buffalo. He didn't lose
>> anything by passing. IPO's are a gamble.
>>
> The difference would be I don't know what "Go Pro" is. I'm pretty
> sure Fed-Ex has been a global name and service for decades.
>
> Blue Buffalo... is that pet food?
>
> Jill

Yes, pet food.

Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 7/22/2017 7:09 PM, Alex wrote:
>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 7/21/2017 6:53 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>> On 7/20/2017 5:15 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/20/2017 4:13 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>> John Kuthe wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2017 at 6:05:49 PM UTC-5, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>> You never contributed to an IRA or 401K? Guess you worshiped
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>> money you made rather than planning for your future!
>>>>>>>>> I HAD a good 401K when I worked for IBM in the late 1990's until
>>>>>>>>> June 2002 when IBM laid off 15,001 workers worldwide and I was
>>>>>>>>> THE
>>>>>>>>> ONE! Then as I has been pursuing an aggressive credit card debt
>>>>>>>>> repayment program, but now without m,y good IBM income I
>>>>>>>>> liquidated
>>>>>>>>> my entire IBM 401K, paid off ALL my credit cars and had a bunch
>>>>>>>>> left
>>>>>>>>> over so I spent most of the Spring of 2003 "down my the river
>>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>>> 1994 Chrysler Caravan!" Because it kept raining down there and
>>>>>>>>> bringing the river up again and I decided to just starting to
>>>>>>>>> pack a
>>>>>>>>> big cooler with supplies for up up four days was the longest I
>>>>>>>>> stayed down there before driving back and rebooting my cooler!
>>>>>>>>> (Man
>>>>>>>>> I miss those days!)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Now I just have a "bunch of stocks" (and I will NOT say how much,
>>>>>>>>> but suffice to say it's "a bunch!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In addition to the $150,000 worth of the most heinous stocks
>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>> sold to buy and fix up this house!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> John Kuth...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You should move some, or all, to a Roth IRA so you can collect the
>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>> tax-free at retirement time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doesn't that require the payment of a bunch of taxes NOW? It may
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> make sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. It was tax-free money that he inherited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought you were suggesting he move from a traditional IRA to a
>>>>> ROTH. You said nothing like that, but that is all the rage these
>>>>> days. My bad.
>>>>
>>>> With the future always so uncertain, that would be a bad move!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree - it is only a matter of time before ROTHs are taxed.
>>
>> That would be a difficult move. By definition, they are not taxed at
>> the time of redemption. If a change is made, they would have to
>> grandfather the accounts in place.
>>
>
> No they wouldn't. They just pass a law.

When?

http://www.kiplinger.com/article/ret...-roth-ira.html

Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 7/22/2017 7:07 PM, Alex wrote:
>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>> On 7/21/2017 6:57 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>> Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>> On 7/21/2017 9:30 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>>> On 2017-07-20 8:03 PM, Taxed and Spent wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/20/2017 4:13 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You should move some, or all, to a Roth IRA so you can collect the
>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>> tax-free at retirement time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doesn't that require the payment of a bunch of taxes NOW? It may
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> make sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I make no claim to knowing who retirement plans work in the US
>>>>>> but up
>>>>>> here a common vehicle is the Registered Retirement Savings Plan
>>>>>> (RRSP).
>>>>>> You can sock money away into them and each year you can deduct that
>>>>>> amount from your taxable income... to a limit. It is a tax deferral
>>>>>> system. You have to pay income tax on it when you draw it out. I
>>>>>> guess
>>>>>> the idea is that you sock that money away during good years, the big
>>>>>> income days when you would be paying the higher tax rates. Then you
>>>>>> start cashing them in after retirement when your income is likely
>>>>>> to be
>>>>>> about half what it was when working. You then pay the income tax
>>>>>> at a
>>>>>> lower rate. Some people try to make do on their pensions and leave
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> money in RRSPs until they have to take them out or convert them
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> vehicle. Pity the heirs to estates of people who have lots of money
>>>>>> tucked away in deferral plans and then die early so that they are
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> cashed in the same year and pay even higher tax rates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In the US, heirs can receive payouts over a number of years. With
>>>>> complex rules to determine the number of years, of course.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would depend on the language of the trust. Some have no
>>>> timeline.
>>>> What you are referring to is often the case for children so they don't
>>>> blow it all at once.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was referring to inherited retirement accounts.
>>
>> So was I. Depends on the language in the trust.
>>
>
> no it doesn't.

Maybe you are thinking of a required minimum distribution. That doesn't
limit what you can cash out, it tells you how much you have to cash out:

https://investor.vanguard.com/inherit/ira-rmd?lang=en

Taxed and Spent wrote:
> On 7/22/2017 7:00 PM, Alex wrote:
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 7/21/2017 9:57 PM, Alex wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would depend on the language of the trust. Some have no
>>>> timeline. What you are referring to is often the case for children so
>>>> they don't blow it all at once.
>>>
>>> Sure you can. Ever see the ads "I need cash now" call J G Wentworth.
>>>
>>> They take structured settlements and annuities and give you cash.
>>> Probably 89% interest. Sleazy thieves.
>>
>>
>> That's just bad economics.
>>
>
>
> Not for J.G.!

True!

Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article >, cshenk1
> @cox.net says...
> >
> > Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> >
> > > In article >,
> > > cshenk1 @cox.net says...
> > > >
> > > > dsi1 wrote in rec.food.cooking:
> > >
> > > > > Have fun sheriffing your little fiefdom. My guess is that
> > > > > it'll be hell for the tenants.
> > > >
> > > > ds1, he's basically got a house and has roomates. Its not a new
> > > > situaton.
> > >
> > > It's a completely new situation. Before, they were all in the
> > > same boat; slated the landlord for all the problems in the
> > > property.
> > >
> > > When John becomes the owner/landlord
> > >
> > > a) he becomes the target for every tiny criticism by tenants
>
> > > b) he's likely to criticise tenants for every little damage or
> > > breakage they inflict on his newly renovated property
> > >
> > > c) The nature of John's illness can make dealing with personal
> > > disagreements very difficult for both parties.
> > >
> > > Janet UK
> >
> > So, you've never been the primary who took in roommates?
>
> As usual, you couldn't be more wrong.
>
> There's nothing much I don't know about managing tenants (legally,
> socially or practical housekeeping) from my many years of first-hand
> experience as a landlady.
>
> Janet UK

Janet, thats a very different situation from what I asked. I asked
about roomates.



--

Gary wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
>> Yes, but Cindy sounded like she's proud of supporting nasty
>> corporations.
> She invests in them. She makes good retirement money. That's what
> everyone hopes to do. To boycott a corporation that wins is dumb.
> Some people here won't buy from the evil Walmart but their little
> protest means nothing to Walmart. Walmart still wins. The
> protesters pay more for products from somewhere else. It makes
> them feel good but won't change a thing.
>
>>>> By the way, what would happen to the world if all civilised countries
>>>> stopped procreating and all barbaric countries continued to breed like
>>>> rabbits?
>>> D.Trump: We nuke the evil *******s.
>> I count the US as a civilised country, but Trump should be the
>> President of a country like Yemen or Saudi-Arabia.
> My prediction: He will never be re-elected and I hope his VP will
> never be elected either....or his barbie-doll daughter. It's time
> for the Democrats to come up with a worthy opponent for the next
> election. Not Al Gore, not Hillary...someone new and fresh.
>
> It shouldn't be too hard to find someone better than Donald's
> gang.

The Republican had the same problem in this election. Trump just
happened to win.